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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16024 Posts
January 17 2017 17:04 GMT
#1441
On January 18 2017 01:54 ThreeActPlay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2017 01:54 Bakuryu wrote:
On January 18 2017 01:41 classicyellow83 wrote:
On January 18 2017 01:36 Piratezerg wrote:
On January 18 2017 01:28 classicyellow83 wrote:
Mad props to Jaedong. Jaedong got shots on his fingers so that he can practice like he did in pro days.


Jeez seriously?? And he only intentionally played for one short game, the hydra bust. Hope he is well.

Yeah. He posted it on his Afreeca page. He also said "I gave all I had. I'm just not on the same level as Flash yet. I'm going to rejuvenate and get myself reday for next ASL. I learned a lot today. I promise you I will be stronger next season"
He also said that he barely slept to practice.


what do you mean with "Jaedong got shots on his fingers"?


Sounds like he got pain-killing injections into his fingers to deal with the pain

That doesn't sound healthy at all I'm worried for him.

Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
January 17 2017 17:05 GMT
#1442
Yeah what the fuck JD.

He really needs to do military service for a bit, and hopefully he'll recover a bit because of it.
kiss kiss fall in love
classicyellow83
Profile Joined June 2016
United States2393 Posts
January 17 2017 17:06 GMT
#1443
On January 18 2017 02:04 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2017 01:54 ThreeActPlay wrote:
On January 18 2017 01:54 Bakuryu wrote:
On January 18 2017 01:41 classicyellow83 wrote:
On January 18 2017 01:36 Piratezerg wrote:
On January 18 2017 01:28 classicyellow83 wrote:
Mad props to Jaedong. Jaedong got shots on his fingers so that he can practice like he did in pro days.


Jeez seriously?? And he only intentionally played for one short game, the hydra bust. Hope he is well.

Yeah. He posted it on his Afreeca page. He also said "I gave all I had. I'm just not on the same level as Flash yet. I'm going to rejuvenate and get myself reday for next ASL. I learned a lot today. I promise you I will be stronger next season"
He also said that he barely slept to practice.


what do you mean with "Jaedong got shots on his fingers"?


Sounds like he got pain-killing injections into his fingers to deal with the pain

That doesn't sound healthy at all I'm worried for him.


Flash did the same thing during KT days b4 he got surgery.
Reach!!! Come back to BW!!
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16024 Posts
January 17 2017 17:07 GMT
#1444
On January 18 2017 01:57 opisska wrote:
If flash retires because people say mean things online, it will make me think less of him. Its irrational and childish. Weird to see someone so collected and precise ingame to be so weak irl. Hopefully its all just talk by him as well. I was never a big fan of Flash in sc2 because he was absurdly overrared, but his BW play is still impressive even for me with my limited knowledge of the game. Would be sad if he stopped competing.

However if there is general feeling that terran is op, afreeca should change the maps. Not reacting to percieved imbalance has proven quite detrimental in sc2. Worst case they can double back after a season.

It's not childish at all, if you work hard for something you want to be rewarded no matter what you do.
If the only reward is getting shitted on in the internet I can totally understand why he doesn't have the desire to compete anymore.
Flash is still human even if it's hard to believe
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Bakuryu
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany1065 Posts
January 17 2017 17:09 GMT
#1445
just checked some pages back, flash wins tight series and gets spammed with terran op? like wtf, are those guys brain dead?
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50604 Posts
January 17 2017 17:09 GMT
#1446
On January 18 2017 02:06 classicyellow83 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2017 02:04 Charoisaur wrote:
On January 18 2017 01:54 ThreeActPlay wrote:
On January 18 2017 01:54 Bakuryu wrote:
On January 18 2017 01:41 classicyellow83 wrote:
On January 18 2017 01:36 Piratezerg wrote:
On January 18 2017 01:28 classicyellow83 wrote:
Mad props to Jaedong. Jaedong got shots on his fingers so that he can practice like he did in pro days.


Jeez seriously?? And he only intentionally played for one short game, the hydra bust. Hope he is well.

Yeah. He posted it on his Afreeca page. He also said "I gave all I had. I'm just not on the same level as Flash yet. I'm going to rejuvenate and get myself reday for next ASL. I learned a lot today. I promise you I will be stronger next season"
He also said that he barely slept to practice.


what do you mean with "Jaedong got shots on his fingers"?


Sounds like he got pain-killing injections into his fingers to deal with the pain

That doesn't sound healthy at all I'm worried for him.


Flash did the same thing during KT days b4 he got surgery.


it annoying me to no end, that these guys do so fucking much and get trolled constantly.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
ThreeActPlay
Profile Joined April 2011
United States249 Posts
January 17 2017 17:10 GMT
#1447
They really need better ergonomic setups when they play, but in both of their cases it's probably way too late for that. The surgeries for carpal tunnel don't actually solve any problems, especially if they don't correct the behavior or posture that is causing the nerve to get inflamed.
twitter.com/haethos
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
January 17 2017 17:12 GMT
#1448
Is carpal tunnel surgery a "for now until it gets worse again" sort of thing?
kiss kiss fall in love
Bakuryu
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany1065 Posts
January 17 2017 17:14 GMT
#1449
the series was so awesome and reading the fucking terran op thingy completely killed my mood and wants me to fly to korea, bitch slap all those idiots and then explain them how this game works, jesus im so pissed now.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
January 17 2017 17:15 GMT
#1450
On January 18 2017 02:07 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2017 01:57 opisska wrote:
If flash retires because people say mean things online, it will make me think less of him. Its irrational and childish. Weird to see someone so collected and precise ingame to be so weak irl. Hopefully its all just talk by him as well. I was never a big fan of Flash in sc2 because he was absurdly overrared, but his BW play is still impressive even for me with my limited knowledge of the game. Would be sad if he stopped competing.

However if there is general feeling that terran is op, afreeca should change the maps. Not reacting to percieved imbalance has proven quite detrimental in sc2. Worst case they can double back after a season.

It's not childish at all, if you work hard for something you want to be rewarded no matter what you do.
If the only reward is getting shitted on in the internet I can totally understand why he doesn't have the desire to compete anymore.
Flash is still human even if it's hard to believe

What do you mean with "the only reward is getting shit on" ? EVERYBODY "famous" has haters, that's nothing unique to flash. I have no idea in what proportion it applies to him specifically, but considering that he makes a lot of money on afreeca and has a lot of viewers regulalry i would assume that it's pretty minor in comparison
Ofc it's easy for us as random TL posters to say that he should just ignore it, but at the end of the day there are really worse positions than his (which doesn't mean that trolls/ hateful comments aren't a problem, but everybody has unique problems)
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
classicyellow83
Profile Joined June 2016
United States2393 Posts
January 17 2017 17:16 GMT
#1451
Since a lot of players reveal things about pro days on their stream a lot you get to hear how ridiculous some teams were. Some teams forced Zergs to play 60 games a day bc ZvZs are shorter. Larva said he played 60 games a day (by choice) few times and he said that you don't even have time to shit.
Reach!!! Come back to BW!!
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22055 Posts
January 17 2017 17:17 GMT
#1452
On January 18 2017 02:10 ThreeActPlay wrote:
They really need better ergonomic setups when they play, but in both of their cases it's probably way too late for that. The surgeries for carpal tunnel don't actually solve any problems, especially if they don't correct the behavior or posture that is causing the nerve to get inflamed.

Pretty sure no amount of posture or ergonomics is going to fix 300+ apm for 20 minutes.
BW pro's are having carpal tunnel issues because they are performing beyond what the human body is designed to do.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
ThreeActPlay
Profile Joined April 2011
United States249 Posts
January 17 2017 17:18 GMT
#1453
On January 18 2017 02:12 IntoTheheart wrote:
Is carpal tunnel surgery a "for now until it gets worse again" sort of thing?


It's pretty much the only option you have if the pain/numbness becomes unmanageable. The surgery will reduce the pain, but if you don't correct the cause, it's just a small respite before the next time.
twitter.com/haethos
corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
January 17 2017 17:18 GMT
#1454
On January 18 2017 02:14 Bakuryu wrote:
the series was so awesome and reading the fucking terran op thingy completely killed my mood and wants me to fly to korea, bitch slap all those idiots and then explain them how this game works, jesus im so pissed now.

Ah Bakuryu <3
Also, game 4 reminded me of a forign league game, maybe by a LRM) player, who went for 2 or 3 hatch hydra bust vs terran on Tau Cross. Long time ago, but maybe you remember ?
Great serie imo. I'm a Flash fan, so I won't insist on his wins, but even as a zerg player, I had something to admire in game 1, a clear case of smart counterstrat very well executed. Lee Young Ho fell right into it.
‎numquam se plus agere quam nihil cum ageret, numquam minus solum esse quam cum solus esset
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
January 17 2017 17:18 GMT
#1455
I 'm really curious and wonder if playing on mechanical keyboard is less tiring than on membrane? AFAIK they still stick with Qsenn DT-35 because it's what they used back in progaming days and it's ideal for BW. In other hand both Flash and JD used mechanical (pretty sure both used Razer Blackwidow but Flash preferred blue and JD red switches) in their SC2 progaming time, maybe just because they were sponsored by Razer? Why they switched back to membrane?
sunbeams are never made like me...
ThreeActPlay
Profile Joined April 2011
United States249 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-17 17:26:14
January 17 2017 17:20 GMT
#1456
On January 18 2017 02:17 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2017 02:10 ThreeActPlay wrote:
They really need better ergonomic setups when they play, but in both of their cases it's probably way too late for that. The surgeries for carpal tunnel don't actually solve any problems, especially if they don't correct the behavior or posture that is causing the nerve to get inflamed.

Pretty sure no amount of posture or ergonomics is going to fix 300+ apm for 20 minutes.
BW pro's are having carpal tunnel issues because they are performing beyond what the human body is designed to do.


You're completely right, the human body is not really meant to do what these guys do, but if they had more ergonomic setups, it might have reduced the amount of damage they did to themselves.

Edit: As an example, a lot of CTS (in the workplace at least) is because people rest their wrists on the desk while they work, and the range of motion is all using their wrist -- the arms don't really move that much, and when they do it's still resting so it's putting pressure on the nerve, and will eventually cause inflammation that leads to CTS. If they could use a setup where the keyboard/mouse is lower so that they are not resting on the wrists and are "hovering" over them instead, it will not cause the nerve to inflame nearly as much.
twitter.com/haethos
Bakuryu
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany1065 Posts
January 17 2017 17:22 GMT
#1457
well atleast we got to 73 pages, go us!!!
classicyellow83
Profile Joined June 2016
United States2393 Posts
January 17 2017 17:27 GMT
#1458
A lot of gamers got surgeries post kespa.
Reach!!! Come back to BW!!
neobowman
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3324 Posts
January 17 2017 17:28 GMT
#1459
Wow. What a match. Wish JD could've pulled that last game out though. Great watch either way.
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6261 Posts
January 17 2017 17:29 GMT
#1460
On January 18 2017 02:16 classicyellow83 wrote:
Since a lot of players reveal things about pro days on their stream a lot you get to hear how ridiculous some teams were. Some teams forced Zergs to play 60 games a day bc ZvZs are shorter. Larva said he played 60 games a day (by choice) few times and he said that you don't even have time to shit.

Playing that much is most likely counter productive anyway. You need your rest. The StarCraft community has this weird thing that more practise is always better but playing through the night or playing 60 games a day probably isn't better. Diminishing returns exist.
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