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[ASL2] Semifinals: Flash vs Jaedong - Page 48

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chrisolo
Profile Joined May 2009
Germany2610 Posts
January 17 2017 11:44 GMT
#941
On January 17 2017 20:42 b0lt wrote:
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On January 17 2017 20:41 chrisolo wrote:
On January 17 2017 20:39 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
So looking at the comments this was an unorthodox cheese? lol


Its not a cheese by definition. It is a timing attack, where you need to do some damage in order to not be behind, but you can also kill someone as you could witness just minutes ago.


No, it's a cheese. Hydras are atrocious vs bio, so if you don't kill them immediately, you die.


They are not in small numbers as you could see. Yes it is a BO which depends on dealing damage, but it is not a do or die. Even if FlaSh hold that, he lost many SCVs and he cannot move out directly, because that many Hydras deal quite well against a small number of Marines.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ - aka cReAtiVee
Lunaticman
Profile Joined November 2007
Sweden1097 Posts
January 17 2017 11:44 GMT
#942
On January 17 2017 20:43 BisuDagger wrote:
No better way to watch the final game then on the best stream: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2


I can't connect for some reason, do I have to have afreeca installed?

I can't watch it from work then.
Failure is not an option
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50978 Posts
January 17 2017 11:44 GMT
#943
On January 17 2017 20:43 hitthat wrote:
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On January 17 2017 20:41 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
well this is the best BW I've watched in my short experience :D


Than you see nothing yet ^^


say waht you will with all the hype, but these games haven't given me "those" chills.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
January 17 2017 11:44 GMT
#944
On January 17 2017 20:39 Vuk_91 wrote:
I'm honestly just starting to think that these games are fixed to be this epic... How the fuck does this actually happen in the real world???

So true. I understand now why they like bw
Bisu - INnoVation - Dark - Rogue - Stats
usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
January 17 2017 11:44 GMT
#945
On January 17 2017 20:44 Wintex wrote:
Poll: Game 5

i want a macro game (40)
 
61%

i want a 2 rax (4)
 
6%

i want a 4 pool (12)
 
18%

good game (10)
 
15%

66 total votes

Your vote: Game 5

(Vote): i want a macro game
(Vote): i want a 2 rax
(Vote): i want a 4 pool
(Vote): good game



Factories into rax.
IntoTheEmo
Profile Joined February 2009
Singapore1170 Posts
January 17 2017 11:44 GMT
#946
No matter who wins next, I can't believe Jaedong has taken 2 games. I haven't been this giddy watching Starcraft for eons!
MMOs kill APM. However Proleague plus BW Proscene music increase APM -> 100. 이제동 Fighting! Highest ranked Jaedong owner in FPL10 = clearly #1 Jaedong fan~! <- Keeping my sig from 2010
H2O
Profile Joined December 2007
United States34 Posts
January 17 2017 11:45 GMT
#947
Unimpressed Flash looked pretty impressed by that hydra bust.
iNfeRnaL *
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Germany1908 Posts
January 17 2017 11:45 GMT
#948
On January 17 2017 20:42 r.Evo wrote:
Can we just extend this to a BO101, I don't want this to end.

OMG!
It's alive.
Write me a pm or something dear sir!
I agree btw, but I got to work now so I'll miss last game and be extra sad.
Gak2
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada418 Posts
January 17 2017 11:45 GMT
#949
[image loading]

stay classy TL :p
letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
January 17 2017 11:45 GMT
#950
On January 17 2017 20:41 coolprogrammingstuff wrote:
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On January 17 2017 20:39 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
So looking at the comments this was an unorthodox cheese? lol


in zvt, fucking unheard of. in zvp, hydra busts incredibly common

its not unheard of, it just very difficult to do against a terran, especially like Flash.
JD used to practice hydra rushes in ZvT quite a few times in official matches.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42400 Posts
January 17 2017 11:45 GMT
#951
On January 17 2017 20:44 Wintex wrote:
Poll: Game 5

i want a macro game (40)
 
61%

i want a 2 rax (4)
 
6%

i want a 4 pool (12)
 
18%

good game (10)
 
15%

66 total votes

Your vote: Game 5

(Vote): i want a macro game
(Vote): i want a 2 rax
(Vote): i want a 4 pool
(Vote): good game




Four pool into victory would be epic

but close macro game pls
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Deleted User 31060
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
3788 Posts
January 17 2017 11:45 GMT
#952
On January 17 2017 20:42 Miragee wrote:
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On January 17 2017 20:41 LRM)TechnicS wrote:
I think Flash elegantly threw this one. There's no way on earth you go 3 barracks academy before ebay and lose vs hydra bust. His first decision to fight Jaedong's hydras at the natural by lifting the barracks was detrimental, he just should have stayed in and built 1 bunker more.


Thinking about this, it really was weird to lift the baracks. Especially if Flash expected Lurkers. Maybe he wanted to find the lurker eggs?


This is the explanation. Also, against a lurker push you want to start as far away from your nat CC as possible, that way the lurkers have to burrow/unburrow more times and you can get free hits on them.
Peaked at C- on ICCUP and proud of it! @Sunyveil
LRM)TechnicS
Profile Joined May 2008
Bulgaria1565 Posts
January 17 2017 11:45 GMT
#953
On January 17 2017 20:42 BlackJack wrote:
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On January 17 2017 20:41 LRM)TechnicS wrote:
I think Flash elegantly threw this one. There's no way on earth you go 3 barracks academy before ebay and lose vs hydra bust. His first decision to fight Jaedong's hydras at the natural by lifting the barracks was detrimental, he just should have stayed in and built 1 bunker more.


Threw it? He was a hair away from holding and winning it. You can't throw a game by such a slight margin


Flash had everything lined up to pretty much kill it, yet he screwed up all the possible ways he could I think. Yet he scouted the upgraded with movement hydras and perhaps already watched jaedong's stream to know he does it from time to time.
Enjoy the game
iamho
Profile Joined June 2009
United States3347 Posts
January 17 2017 11:45 GMT
#954
Holy shit these games are out of control!!
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
January 17 2017 11:45 GMT
#955
insane series!!!
ॐ
phosphorylation
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2935 Posts
January 17 2017 11:45 GMT
#956
in the next few days
iccup D+ zergs are gonna try hydra busting against terran haha
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Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-17 11:46:42
January 17 2017 11:45 GMT
#957
On January 17 2017 20:44 chrisolo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2017 20:42 b0lt wrote:
On January 17 2017 20:41 chrisolo wrote:
On January 17 2017 20:39 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
So looking at the comments this was an unorthodox cheese? lol


Its not a cheese by definition. It is a timing attack, where you need to do some damage in order to not be behind, but you can also kill someone as you could witness just minutes ago.


No, it's a cheese. Hydras are atrocious vs bio, so if you don't kill them immediately, you die.


They are not in small numbers as you could see. Yes it is a BO which depends on dealing damage, but it is not a do or die. Even if FlaSh hold that, he lost many SCVs and he cannot move out directly, because that many Hydras deal quite well against a small number of Marines.

Jaedong needs to get a lair+lurker upgrade, doesn't have even close to +1 carapace, is still on 2 gas with a limited amount of drones.

He is dead if he doesn't kill him.

edit: I think he was on 1 gas actualy
WriterXiao8~~
Kaewins
Profile Joined April 2013
Bulgaria138 Posts
January 17 2017 11:45 GMT
#958
I think Flash timing was off because the Hydra Den was a bit earlier than usual, but I could be wrong.
classicyellow83
Profile Joined June 2016
United States2393 Posts
January 17 2017 11:45 GMT
#959
After today, We are gonna see a lot of FvJ on afreeca. =)
Reach!!! Come back to BW!!
Xeln4g4
Profile Joined January 2005
Italy1209 Posts
January 17 2017 11:45 GMT
#960
On January 17 2017 20:39 Keeemy wrote:
Holy shit this background. Page 42 I mean.

First time watching BW, I'm definitely not disappointed! GOGO JD


Try the game if u hadnt already....and u'll appreciate 100 times more what they do in game....this game is damn hard to master and every second they perform outstanding things!!
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