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b0lt
Profile Joined March 2009
United States790 Posts
January 17 2017 11:42 GMT
#921
On January 17 2017 20:41 chrisolo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2017 20:39 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
So looking at the comments this was an unorthodox cheese? lol


Its not a cheese by definition. It is a timing attack, where you need to do some damage in order to not be behind, but you can also kill someone as you could witness just minutes ago.


No, it's a cheese. Hydras are atrocious vs bio, so if you don't kill them immediately, you die.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
January 17 2017 11:42 GMT
#922
Can we just extend this to a BO101, I don't want this to end.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
bovienchien
Profile Joined March 2014
Vietnam1152 Posts
January 17 2017 11:42 GMT
#923
Jeadong hasn't gone out from his chair yet?
https://www.facebook.com/StarcraftRemasteredVN/
LRM)TechnicS
Profile Joined May 2008
Bulgaria1565 Posts
January 17 2017 11:42 GMT
#924
Flash scanned the upgraded with movement hydralisks and went out when all he should have done was build 2 bunkers behind the wall and defend it rather easily.
Enjoy the game
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8565 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-17 11:43:11
January 17 2017 11:42 GMT
#925
On January 17 2017 20:41 LRM)TechnicS wrote:
I think Flash elegantly threw this one. There's no way on earth you go 3 barracks academy before ebay and lose vs hydra bust. His first decision to fight Jaedong's hydras at the natural by lifting the barracks was detrimental, he just should have stayed in and built 1 bunker more.


Thinking about this, it really was weird to lift the baracks. Especially if Flash expected Lurkers. Maybe he wanted to find the lurker eggs?
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
January 17 2017 11:42 GMT
#926
On January 17 2017 20:41 LRM)TechnicS wrote:
I think Flash elegantly threw this one. There's no way on earth you go 3 barracks academy before ebay and lose vs hydra bust. His first decision to fight Jaedong's hydras at the natural by lifting the barracks was detrimental, he just should have stayed in and built 1 bunker more.


Threw it? He was a hair away from holding and winning it. You can't throw a game by such a slight margin
CrayonPopChoa
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Canada761 Posts
January 17 2017 11:42 GMT
#927
Its fair to say that was the first time ever Flash lost a game in that fashion
BW4LIFE
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
January 17 2017 11:42 GMT
#928
On January 17 2017 20:41 LRM)TechnicS wrote:
I think Flash elegantly threw this one. There's no way on earth you go 3 barracks academy before ebay and lose vs hydra bust. His first decision to fight Jaedong's hydras at the natural by lifting the barracks was detrimental, he just should have stayed in and built 1 bunker more.

Idk why he fought there, I thought he only lifted to let those 2 medics in... they would've been sniped else.
Vuk_91
Profile Joined September 2010
Serbia1690 Posts
January 17 2017 11:43 GMT
#929
On January 17 2017 20:41 Ramiz1989 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2017 20:39 Vuk_91 wrote:
I'm honestly just starting to think that these games are fixed to be this epic... How the fuck does this actually happen in the real world???

Nah, these are just standard JD vs. Flash games, and it is just BW, this will going to happen each time they meet unless one guy is really out of shape.

Come on man, they never had a series like this... Hydra bust that WORKS??? We are living in the Matrix my friend.
tyr
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France1686 Posts
January 17 2017 11:43 GMT
#930
Short but fun games. Happy it goes to a game 5.
"I'm always reminded of how manly Jaedong is every time I see him." -Bisu
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3016 Posts
January 17 2017 11:43 GMT
#931
On January 17 2017 20:42 coolprogrammingstuff wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2017 20:40 Sunyveil wrote:
I'm 90% sure Jaedong only attempts that build in those spawn positions, which makes me wonder what else he had planned for the map


that was benzene


Direction matters though. If spawns were flipped, Flash's units spawn inside the wall for his first Barracks. That's why JD could kill an early Medic.
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19279 Posts
January 17 2017 11:43 GMT
#932
No better way to watch the final game then on the best stream: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
Tanzklaue
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany1414 Posts
January 17 2017 11:43 GMT
#933
literally every game was a stomp so far more or less, both players are proving that they are still great players.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50466 Posts
January 17 2017 11:43 GMT
#934
Poll: Real talk

Rainbow Sheep (29)
 
55%

Unimpressed Flash (24)
 
45%

53 total votes

Your vote: Real talk

(Vote): Rainbow Sheep
(Vote): Unimpressed Flash

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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hitthat
Profile Joined January 2010
Poland2267 Posts
January 17 2017 11:43 GMT
#935
On January 17 2017 20:41 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
well this is the best BW I've watched in my short experience :D


Than you see nothing yet ^^
Shameless BroodWar separatistic, elitist, fanaticaly devoted puritan fanboy.
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
January 17 2017 11:43 GMT
#936
On January 17 2017 20:42 r.Evo wrote:
Can we just extend this to a BO101, I don't want this to end.


Or BO1001
True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3426 Posts
January 17 2017 11:43 GMT
#937
On January 17 2017 20:42 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2017 20:41 LRM)TechnicS wrote:
I think Flash elegantly threw this one. There's no way on earth you go 3 barracks academy before ebay and lose vs hydra bust. His first decision to fight Jaedong's hydras at the natural by lifting the barracks was detrimental, he just should have stayed in and built 1 bunker more.


Thinking about this, it really was weird to lift the baracks. Especially if Flash expected Lurkers. Maybe he wanted to find the lurker eggs?


He wanted to intercept the lurkers. Standard play.
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3016 Posts
January 17 2017 11:44 GMT
#938
On January 17 2017 20:42 LRM)TechnicS wrote:
Flash scanned the upgraded with movement hydralisks and went out when all he should have done was build 2 bunkers behind the wall and defend it rather easily.


Yeah there were at least a few uncharacteristically bad decisions by Flash that game.
coolprogrammingstuff
Profile Joined December 2015
906 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-17 11:44:24
January 17 2017 11:44 GMT
#939
On January 17 2017 20:41 juvenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2017 20:27 Vuk_91 wrote:
On January 17 2017 20:26 juvenal wrote:
On January 17 2017 20:17 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
brood war is sick you guys were right

make no mistake, these games are nothing like the classic Flash - Jaedong matches, Jaedong is visibly rusty and unsure of his own mechanics. Huge shame this series had to take place so early after Jaedong returned, would've been 10x better in half a year.

What the hell are you talking about, JD is playing on such a high level today...

wrong. Flash is underwhelming as well, judging by the last game.


honestly, asl has underwhelmed me in skill level since i was spoiled back in 2011 by how good they were, but I don't really see that so much in this series

that being said, game ONE was great, JD and Flash looked pretty good form in that - jaedong really good.

Jaedong has said his muta micro is shittier now than prior, and he can't do it the same way (I believe).

if he did, who knows how good he'd be now?
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
January 17 2017 11:44 GMT
#940
Poll: Game 5

i want a macro game (40)
 
61%

i want a 2 rax (4)
 
6%

i want a 4 pool (12)
 
18%

good game (10)
 
15%

66 total votes

Your vote: Game 5

(Vote): i want a macro game
(Vote): i want a 2 rax
(Vote): i want a 4 pool
(Vote): good game


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