• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 08:53
CET 14:53
KST 22:53
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational5SC2 All-Star Invitational: Tournament Preview5RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0
Community News
Weekly Cups (Jan 12-18): herO, MaxPax, Solar win0BSL Season 2025 - Full Overview and Conclusion8Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets4$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)16Weekly Cups (Dec 29-Jan 4): Protoss rolls, 2v2 returns7
StarCraft 2
General
PhD study /w SC2 - help with a survey! herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational SC2 Spotted on the EWC 2026 list? Starcraft 2 will not be in the Esports World Cup When will we find out if there are more tournament
Tourneys
OSC Season 13 World Championship $70 Prize Pool Ladder Legends Academy Weekly Open! SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament SC2 AI Tournament 2026
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
[A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 509 Doomsday Report Mutation # 508 Violent Night Mutation # 507 Well Trained Mutation # 506 Warp Zone
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion BW AKA finder tool [ASL21] Potential Map Candidates Gypsy to Korea BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10 Small VOD Thread 2.0 Azhi's Colosseum - Season 2
Strategy
Current Meta Simple Questions, Simple Answers Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Game Theory for Starcraft
Other Games
General Games
Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Awesome Games Done Quick 2026!
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread NASA and the Private Sector Canadian Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Navigating the Risks and Rew…
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1707 users

[ASL2] Semifinals: Flash vs Jaedong - Page 47

Forum Index > Brood War Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 45 46 47 48 49 84 Next
b0lt
Profile Joined March 2009
United States790 Posts
January 17 2017 11:42 GMT
#921
On January 17 2017 20:41 chrisolo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2017 20:39 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
So looking at the comments this was an unorthodox cheese? lol


Its not a cheese by definition. It is a timing attack, where you need to do some damage in order to not be behind, but you can also kill someone as you could witness just minutes ago.


No, it's a cheese. Hydras are atrocious vs bio, so if you don't kill them immediately, you die.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
January 17 2017 11:42 GMT
#922
Can we just extend this to a BO101, I don't want this to end.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
bovienchien
Profile Joined March 2014
Vietnam1152 Posts
January 17 2017 11:42 GMT
#923
Jeadong hasn't gone out from his chair yet?
https://www.facebook.com/StarcraftRemasteredVN/
LRM)TechnicS
Profile Joined May 2008
Bulgaria1565 Posts
January 17 2017 11:42 GMT
#924
Flash scanned the upgraded with movement hydralisks and went out when all he should have done was build 2 bunkers behind the wall and defend it rather easily.
Enjoy the game
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8626 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-17 11:43:11
January 17 2017 11:42 GMT
#925
On January 17 2017 20:41 LRM)TechnicS wrote:
I think Flash elegantly threw this one. There's no way on earth you go 3 barracks academy before ebay and lose vs hydra bust. His first decision to fight Jaedong's hydras at the natural by lifting the barracks was detrimental, he just should have stayed in and built 1 bunker more.


Thinking about this, it really was weird to lift the baracks. Especially if Flash expected Lurkers. Maybe he wanted to find the lurker eggs?
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
January 17 2017 11:42 GMT
#926
On January 17 2017 20:41 LRM)TechnicS wrote:
I think Flash elegantly threw this one. There's no way on earth you go 3 barracks academy before ebay and lose vs hydra bust. His first decision to fight Jaedong's hydras at the natural by lifting the barracks was detrimental, he just should have stayed in and built 1 bunker more.


Threw it? He was a hair away from holding and winning it. You can't throw a game by such a slight margin
CrayonPopChoa
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Canada761 Posts
January 17 2017 11:42 GMT
#927
Its fair to say that was the first time ever Flash lost a game in that fashion
BW4LIFE
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
January 17 2017 11:42 GMT
#928
On January 17 2017 20:41 LRM)TechnicS wrote:
I think Flash elegantly threw this one. There's no way on earth you go 3 barracks academy before ebay and lose vs hydra bust. His first decision to fight Jaedong's hydras at the natural by lifting the barracks was detrimental, he just should have stayed in and built 1 bunker more.

Idk why he fought there, I thought he only lifted to let those 2 medics in... they would've been sniped else.
Vuk_91
Profile Joined September 2010
Serbia1690 Posts
January 17 2017 11:43 GMT
#929
On January 17 2017 20:41 Ramiz1989 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2017 20:39 Vuk_91 wrote:
I'm honestly just starting to think that these games are fixed to be this epic... How the fuck does this actually happen in the real world???

Nah, these are just standard JD vs. Flash games, and it is just BW, this will going to happen each time they meet unless one guy is really out of shape.

Come on man, they never had a series like this... Hydra bust that WORKS??? We are living in the Matrix my friend.
tyr
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France1686 Posts
January 17 2017 11:43 GMT
#930
Short but fun games. Happy it goes to a game 5.
"I'm always reminded of how manly Jaedong is every time I see him." -Bisu
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3017 Posts
January 17 2017 11:43 GMT
#931
On January 17 2017 20:42 coolprogrammingstuff wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2017 20:40 Sunyveil wrote:
I'm 90% sure Jaedong only attempts that build in those spawn positions, which makes me wonder what else he had planned for the map


that was benzene


Direction matters though. If spawns were flipped, Flash's units spawn inside the wall for his first Barracks. That's why JD could kill an early Medic.
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19302 Posts
January 17 2017 11:43 GMT
#932
No better way to watch the final game then on the best stream: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
Tanzklaue
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany1415 Posts
January 17 2017 11:43 GMT
#933
literally every game was a stomp so far more or less, both players are proving that they are still great players.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50607 Posts
January 17 2017 11:43 GMT
#934
Poll: Real talk

Rainbow Sheep (29)
 
55%

Unimpressed Flash (24)
 
45%

53 total votes

Your vote: Real talk

(Vote): Rainbow Sheep
(Vote): Unimpressed Flash

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
hitthat
Profile Joined January 2010
Poland2309 Posts
January 17 2017 11:43 GMT
#935
On January 17 2017 20:41 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
well this is the best BW I've watched in my short experience :D


Than you see nothing yet ^^
Shameless BroodWar separatistic, elitist, fanaticaly devoted puritan fanboy.
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
January 17 2017 11:43 GMT
#936
On January 17 2017 20:42 r.Evo wrote:
Can we just extend this to a BO101, I don't want this to end.


Or BO1001
True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3426 Posts
January 17 2017 11:43 GMT
#937
On January 17 2017 20:42 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2017 20:41 LRM)TechnicS wrote:
I think Flash elegantly threw this one. There's no way on earth you go 3 barracks academy before ebay and lose vs hydra bust. His first decision to fight Jaedong's hydras at the natural by lifting the barracks was detrimental, he just should have stayed in and built 1 bunker more.


Thinking about this, it really was weird to lift the baracks. Especially if Flash expected Lurkers. Maybe he wanted to find the lurker eggs?


He wanted to intercept the lurkers. Standard play.
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3017 Posts
January 17 2017 11:44 GMT
#938
On January 17 2017 20:42 LRM)TechnicS wrote:
Flash scanned the upgraded with movement hydralisks and went out when all he should have done was build 2 bunkers behind the wall and defend it rather easily.


Yeah there were at least a few uncharacteristically bad decisions by Flash that game.
coolprogrammingstuff
Profile Joined December 2015
906 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-17 11:44:24
January 17 2017 11:44 GMT
#939
On January 17 2017 20:41 juvenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2017 20:27 Vuk_91 wrote:
On January 17 2017 20:26 juvenal wrote:
On January 17 2017 20:17 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
brood war is sick you guys were right

make no mistake, these games are nothing like the classic Flash - Jaedong matches, Jaedong is visibly rusty and unsure of his own mechanics. Huge shame this series had to take place so early after Jaedong returned, would've been 10x better in half a year.

What the hell are you talking about, JD is playing on such a high level today...

wrong. Flash is underwhelming as well, judging by the last game.


honestly, asl has underwhelmed me in skill level since i was spoiled back in 2011 by how good they were, but I don't really see that so much in this series

that being said, game ONE was great, JD and Flash looked pretty good form in that - jaedong really good.

Jaedong has said his muta micro is shittier now than prior, and he can't do it the same way (I believe).

if he did, who knows how good he'd be now?
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
January 17 2017 11:44 GMT
#940
Poll: Game 5

i want a macro game (40)
 
61%

i want a 2 rax (4)
 
6%

i want a 4 pool (12)
 
18%

good game (10)
 
15%

66 total votes

Your vote: Game 5

(Vote): i want a macro game
(Vote): i want a 2 rax
(Vote): i want a 4 pool
(Vote): good game


The Bomber boy
Prev 1 45 46 47 48 49 84 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
OSC
11:00
Season 13 World Championship
MaxPax vs SolarLIVE!
Krystianer vs Cure
ShoWTimE vs TBD
WardiTV875
IndyStarCraft 226
TKL 225
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
IndyStarCraft 226
TKL 225
ProTech28
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 12274
Calm 3800
Horang2 1481
Stork 442
Mini 422
BeSt 402
Hyun 296
actioN 277
Pusan 229
Snow 210
[ Show more ]
EffOrt 118
Mong 108
JYJ 90
hero 86
Mind 74
Killer 57
Sexy 53
Barracks 51
Hm[arnc] 37
ToSsGirL 35
Sacsri 30
Movie 20
Terrorterran 16
GoRush 15
ajuk12(nOOB) 15
Shine 14
SilentControl 11
JulyZerg 11
Dota 2
singsing2885
qojqva1810
Dendi397
Pyrionflax246
XcaliburYe128
Counter-Strike
fl0m2214
olofmeister1713
x6flipin741
byalli278
Other Games
B2W.Neo1264
hiko320
crisheroes202
RotterdaM167
Sick163
Hui .140
Mew2King78
Rex48
Fuzer 44
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 56
• naamasc223
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Laughngamez YouTube
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• TFBlade806
Other Games
• WagamamaTV157
Upcoming Events
Big Brain Bouts
2 days
Serral vs TBD
BSL 21
3 days
BSL 21
4 days
Wardi Open
5 days
Monday Night Weeklies
5 days
WardiTV Invitational
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-01-20
SC2 All-Star Inv. 2025
NA Kuram Kup

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
OSC Championship Season 13
Underdog Cup #3
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W5
Acropolis #4 - TS4
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Rongyi Cup S3
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.