[ASL2] Ro8 Stork vs Jaedong - Page 23
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On January 10 2017 20:16 Heyoka wrote: You can't just choose a venue once you know the matchups man, that shit has to be planned weeks or months in advance. I know, I am just happy to see how popular these guys still are Edit: I shouldn't be surprised though, the studio was this packed as well even when these guys were playing their SC2 matches | ||
Miragee
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On January 11 2017 00:36 classicyellow83 wrote: Best Part Chat: Why did you keep pumping zerglings even though you didn't scout proxy 2 gates? JaeDong: I get chills when the opponent does something funky. That's exactly what Flash said too! the "Chills" He also explained why he went hydra all-in in second game. "I couldn't kill the probe fast enough. I killed it after speed upgrade was finished. Right when the probe died, my drones hatched. Stork saw it. At that moment only thing protoss can think that the zerg is getting third hatchery, taking an expo. So I pulled back the drone i sent to get expo and decided to go hydra all in." Third game. When I saw that the probe and zealot position terrible I clicked his base right away with lings. When my 3 lings were running around in his base, Stork's best choice would have been leaving 1 zeolot behind and sending 3 zealots out. That puts me in a bad spot. But, Stork knew that I like getting lings early and killing zealots in the middle of the map so he didn't. I knew that he knew that i like getting zerglings. So i just kept on pumping out drones and building hatcheries. At that point, I couldn't lose the game. JD was in Stork's head entire series. JD explained it with more details especially about protoss's pysche and, it really showed why he never loses to Protoss in bo5. JD also said that he built spire just to show it Stork. "Stork knows I love getting mutas mid game. I knew he knew that. So I decided to get none and Stork built cannons and DA bc of it. Which put him more behind." Basically JD did everything he normally doesn't do and Stork prepared accordingly to what JD normally does. Thanks for the translation, that was a great read! | ||
letian
Germany4221 Posts
On January 11 2017 00:36 classicyellow83 wrote: Best Part Chat: Why did you keep pumping zerglings even though you didn't scout proxy 2 gates? JaeDong: I get chills when the opponent does something funky. That's exactly what Flash said too! the "Chills" He also explained why he went hydra all-in in second game. "I couldn't kill the probe fast enough. I killed it after speed upgrade was finished. Right when the probe died, my drones hatched. Stork saw it. At that moment only thing protoss can think that the zerg is getting third hatchery, taking an expo. So I pulled back the drone i sent to get expo and decided to go hydra all in." Third game. When I saw that the probe and zealot position terrible I clicked his base right away with lings. When my 3 lings were running around in his base, Stork's best choice would have been leaving 1 zeolot behind and sending 3 zealots out. That puts me in a bad spot. But, Stork knew that I like getting lings early and killing zealots in the middle of the map so he didn't. I knew that he knew that i like getting zerglings. So i just kept on pumping out drones and building hatcheries. At that point, I couldn't lose the game. JD was in Stork's head entire series. JD explained it with more details especially about protoss's pysche and, it really showed why he never loses to Protoss in bo5. JD also said that he built spire just to show it Stork. "Stork knows I love getting mutas mid game. I knew he knew that. So I decided to get none and Stork built cannons and DA bc of it. Which put him more behind." Basically JD did everything he normally doesn't do and Stork prepared accordingly to what JD normally does. I always wonder how much we don't know. From the audience seat the series looked so one-sided that ppl started talking about how bad Stork's PvZ is whatever. | ||
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Lambertus
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On January 11 2017 00:36 classicyellow83 wrote: Best Part Chat: Why did you keep pumping zerglings even though you didn't scout proxy 2 gates? JaeDong: I get chills when the opponent does something funky. That's exactly what Flash said too! the "Chills" He also explained why he went hydra all-in in second game. "I couldn't kill the probe fast enough. I killed it after speed upgrade was finished. Right when the probe died, my drones hatched. Stork saw it. At that moment only thing protoss can think that the zerg is getting third hatchery, taking an expo. So I pulled back the drone i sent to get expo and decided to go hydra all in." Third game. When I saw that the probe and zealot position terrible I clicked his base right away with lings. When my 3 lings were running around in his base, Stork's best choice would have been leaving 1 zeolot behind and sending 3 zealots out. That puts me in a bad spot. But, Stork knew that I like getting lings early and killing zealots in the middle of the map so he didn't. I knew that he knew that i like getting zerglings. So i just kept on pumping out drones and building hatcheries. At that point, I couldn't lose the game. JD was in Stork's head entire series. JD explained it with more details especially about protoss's pysche and, it really showed why he never loses to Protoss in bo5. JD also said that he built spire just to show it Stork. "Stork knows I love getting mutas mid game. I knew he knew that. So I decided to get none and Stork built cannons and DA bc of it. Which put him more behind." Basically JD did everything he normally doesn't do and Stork prepared accordingly to what JD normally does. Thanks for that! | ||
Miragee
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On January 11 2017 02:04 letian wrote: I always wonder how much we don't know. From the audience seat the series looked so one-sided that ppl started talking about how bad Stork's PvZ is whatever. We probably miss a lot of stuff. That's why it's great to have player interviews after the game. Even better would be a good analytical caster that plays/played at a high level and has a lot of in-depth knowledge (no offense to the casters). Some people might remember when Idra casted some games in some SC2 cup. You can think about him what you want but the cast was fucking great. He explained so many small timings/details and decisions that were made off of that it really enhanced (my) enjoyment watching the games immensely. | ||
classicyellow83
United States2393 Posts
On January 11 2017 02:14 Miragee wrote: We probably miss a lot of stuff. That's why it's great to have player interviews after the game. Even better would be a good analytical caster that plays/played at a high level and has a lot of in-depth knowledge (no offense to the casters). Some people might remember when Idra casted some games in some SC2 cup. You can think about him what you want but the cast was fucking great. He explained so many small timings/details and decisions that were made off of that it really enhanced (my) enjoyment watching the games immensely. If you want small details. Zeus is your man. He is fucking amazing at analyzing games and explaining in ways that everyone can understand. | ||
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On January 11 2017 00:36 classicyellow83 wrote: Best Part Chat: Why did you keep pumping zerglings even though you didn't scout proxy 2 gates? JaeDong: I get chills when the opponent does something funky. That's exactly what Flash said too! the "Chills" He also explained why he went hydra all-in in second game. "I couldn't kill the probe fast enough. I killed it after speed upgrade was finished. Right when the probe died, my drones hatched. Stork saw it. At that moment only thing protoss can think that the zerg is getting third hatchery, taking an expo. So I pulled back the drone i sent to get expo and decided to go hydra all in." Third game. When I saw that the probe and zealot position terrible I clicked his base right away with lings. When my 3 lings were running around in his base, Stork's best choice would have been leaving 1 zeolot behind and sending 3 zealots out. That puts me in a bad spot. But, Stork knew that I like getting lings early and killing zealots in the middle of the map so he didn't. I knew that he knew that i like getting zerglings. So i just kept on pumping out drones and building hatcheries. At that point, I couldn't lose the game. JD was in Stork's head entire series. JD explained it with more details especially about protoss's pysche and, it really showed why he never loses to Protoss in bo5. JD also said that he built spire just to show it Stork. "Stork knows I love getting mutas mid game. I knew he knew that. So I decided to get none and Stork built cannons and DA bc of it. Which put him more behind." Basically JD did everything he normally doesn't do and Stork prepared accordingly to what JD normally does. thanks for this, giving a lot of much needed background. Interesting to see how Jaedong manipulated the results by going against his usual style in their games. Maybe Stork should've tried to do the same in all the games? | ||
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classicyellow83
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Even in the first game he decided to go 9 pool after his initial drones started mining. | ||
classicyellow83
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Flash: "Jaedong's units have special kind of force." | ||
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Jaedong baby!!! <3 | ||
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On January 10 2017 22:55 thezanursic wrote: ![]() Honestly I'm waiting on JD to make his move. I need to see that video :O | ||
Qikz
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On January 11 2017 00:36 classicyellow83 wrote: Best Part Chat: Why did you keep pumping zerglings even though you didn't scout proxy 2 gates? JaeDong: I get chills when the opponent does something funky. That's exactly what Flash said too! the "Chills" He also explained why he went hydra all-in in second game. "I couldn't kill the probe fast enough. I killed it after speed upgrade was finished. Right when the probe died, my drones hatched. Stork saw it. At that moment only thing protoss can think that the zerg is getting third hatchery, taking an expo. So I pulled back the drone i sent to get expo and decided to go hydra all in." Third game. When I saw that the probe and zealot position terrible I clicked his base right away with lings. When my 3 lings were running around in his base, Stork's best choice would have been leaving 1 zeolot behind and sending 3 zealots out. That puts me in a bad spot. But, Stork knew that I like getting lings early and killing zealots in the middle of the map so he didn't. I knew that he knew that i like getting zerglings. So i just kept on pumping out drones and building hatcheries. At that point, I couldn't lose the game. JD was in Stork's head entire series. JD explained it with more details especially about protoss's pysche and, it really showed why he never loses to Protoss in bo5. JD also said that he built spire just to show it Stork. "Stork knows I love getting mutas mid game. I knew he knew that. So I decided to get none and Stork built cannons and DA bc of it. Which put him more behind." Basically JD did everything he normally doesn't do and Stork prepared accordingly to what JD normally does. Thanks for the translation. It really makes perfect sense. JD mindfucking an already low confidence Stork leads to a series like that. He just outplayed him. Stork did a damn good job, but I don't think he had a chance to beat JD today. Another day perhaps Stork! Keep fighting! :D | ||
classicyellow83
United States2393 Posts
On January 11 2017 02:14 Miragee wrote: We probably miss a lot of stuff. That's why it's great to have player interviews after the game. Even better would be a good analytical caster that plays/played at a high level and has a lot of in-depth knowledge (no offense to the casters). Some people might remember when Idra casted some games in some SC2 cup. You can think about him what you want but the cast was fucking great. He explained so many small timings/details and decisions that were made off of that it really enhanced (my) enjoyment watching the games immensely. Flash analyzed his games and it really showed how much the casters missed and how wrong they were sometimes (especially about who's ahead in certain points). They should really hire Zeus for ASL. Zeus was on point about basically everything. | ||
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