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PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
January 10 2017 11:27 GMT
#381
On January 10 2017 20:11 TheNewEra wrote:
what's wrong with ASL HoSic Starleague has like more amazing games every group than we had this ASL as a whole

I definitely need to get started with Hosic a s a p
The heart's eternal vow
classicyellow83
Profile Joined June 2016
United States2393 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-10 11:27:39
January 10 2017 11:27 GMT
#382
On January 10 2017 20:24 duke91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2017 20:09 juvenal wrote:
Funny thing is JD is gonna be murdered by Flash just as brutally.


JD will be prepared. I wouldn't be so sure. In TvZ everything is possible, especially considering that TvZ is Flashs weakest matchup right now.

As of January, Flash's strongest matchup is TvZ at 84.6%. JD is at 25% in January. But JD only played 4 ZvTs.
Reach!!! Come back to BW!!
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8714 Posts
January 10 2017 11:27 GMT
#383
On January 10 2017 20:26 [[Starlight]] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2017 20:22 classicyellow83 wrote:
At least Stork has a dinner date.

At this point, I'm half-expecting Jaedong to show up to that, flex, and steal Stork's date.




lol
Xeln4g4
Profile Joined January 2005
Italy1209 Posts
January 10 2017 11:28 GMT
#384
Not gonna be easy for Flash ... JD played very good beside this being ZvP (easiest mu in BW in my opinion). Basically there was skill difference here, not the same story between Flash and JD, they are from same category: champions. Looking forward to see their games, they will be epic.
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
January 10 2017 11:31 GMT
#385
On January 10 2017 20:22 classicyellow83 wrote:
At least Stork has a dinner date.

Haha, true. I'm not sure he's gonna be happily feasting tho. Looking forward seeing him back streaming & training though.
The heart's eternal vow
Hildegard
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
Germany348 Posts
January 10 2017 11:32 GMT
#386
The one thing that makes some players like JD and Flash stand out is that they make their race look unbalanced. For example I think many viewers thought that Terran is a lot stronger than Protoss after watching Flash in the Ro8.

Funny thing is that Jaedong crushed Stork and Flash probably will crush Jaedong while everyone agrees that Flash (despite playing good) is nowhere near his prime. BW needs some new blood to challenge the old players.

So when is the round of 4 happening?

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PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
January 10 2017 11:33 GMT
#387
On January 10 2017 20:32 Hildegard wrote:
The one thing that makes some players like JD and Flash stand out is that they make their race look unbalanced. For example I think many viewers thought that Terran is a lot stronger than Protoss after watching Flash in the Ro8.

Funny thing is that Jaedong crushed Stork and Flash probably will crush Jaedong while everyone agrees that Flash (despite playing good) is nowhere near his prime. BW needs some new blood to challenge the old players.

So when is the round of 4 happening?


Sunday is Sea v BeSt, then Tuesday comes Flash v JaeDong.
The heart's eternal vow
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13530 Posts
January 10 2017 11:38 GMT
#388
Wow that was pretty embarrassing.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
duke91
Profile Joined April 2014
Germany1458 Posts
January 10 2017 11:39 GMT
#389
On January 10 2017 20:28 Xeln4g4 wrote:
JD played very good beside this being ZvP (easiest mu in BW in my opinion).


looks at flair lol
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
January 10 2017 11:46 GMT
#390
So, Jaedong gave us a macro game, Stork flattered. What's confusing to me is why he moved out before +1 was finished researching. He almost took that fight so imagine how well it would've went into his favour if he had +1. Given, maybe he thought it would've been too late? Any insight on this?
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10095 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-10 11:56:57
January 10 2017 11:48 GMT
#391
On January 10 2017 20:46 BigFan wrote:
So, Jaedong gave us a macro game, Stork flattered. What's confusing to me is why he moved out before +1 was finished researching. He almost took that fight so imagine how well it would've went into his favour if he had +1. Given, maybe he thought it would've been too late? Any insight on this?


that game was pretty much over when JD got 3 lings in and started doing dmg after speed kicked in

About his zealot pre +1 timing, Stork probably doesnt have too much experience vs 5 hatch no lair. He wanted to move out and have +1 by the time he got to JD's 3rd (bit greedy but he prolly felt like he needed to do something after the ling harass), JD skipped lair and massed way faster tho (faster hatches, faster production etc.). But yea, losing those zealots was the nail in the coffin..
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
January 10 2017 11:50 GMT
#392
While i agree that JD's ZvT doesn't look good, it's still JD playing a live tournament match against Flash. I don't think it will look like his on stream games tbh, he simply has that killer instinct.
Flash still favored though ofc
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PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
January 10 2017 11:50 GMT
#393
http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/koreasbg

Here's Stork livestreaming going for dinner.

Good to know he owns a pretty comfy looking car.
The heart's eternal vow
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
January 10 2017 11:50 GMT
#394
On January 10 2017 20:48 TT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2017 20:46 BigFan wrote:
So, Jaedong gave us a macro game, Stork flattered. What's confusing to me is why he moved out before +1 was finished researching. He almost took that fight so imagine how well it would've went into his favour if he had +1. Given, maybe he thought it would've been too late? Any insight on this?


that game was pretty much over when JD got 3 lings in and started doing dmg after speed kicked in

hmm I guess. I would've liked to see him expand to a third and at least try rather than 2 base and attack with everything to try and break a 4 base zerg.

Well, at least Stork seems happy regardless lol: http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/koreasbg
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
nurle
Profile Joined August 2009
Norway308 Posts
January 10 2017 11:50 GMT
#395
I was hoping Stork would win just to watch more of Jaedong. Sadly I dont know how much of this was Jaedong being beast mode or Stork just being piss poor.
Jaedong fucking beast
hitthat
Profile Joined January 2010
Poland2349 Posts
January 10 2017 11:52 GMT
#396
On January 10 2017 20:50 nurle wrote:
I was hoping Stork would win just to watch more of Jaedong. Sadly I dont know how much of this was Jaedong being beast mode or Stork just being piss poor.


Stork's play was exceptionaly bad today.
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PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
January 10 2017 11:52 GMT
#397
On January 10 2017 20:50 PVJ wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/koreasbg

Here's Stork livestreaming going for dinner.

Good to know he owns a pretty comfy looking car.

What a nice flower wrap
The heart's eternal vow
duke91
Profile Joined April 2014
Germany1458 Posts
January 10 2017 11:53 GMT
#398
On January 10 2017 20:46 BigFan wrote:
So, Jaedong gave us a macro game, Stork flattered. What's confusing to me is why he moved out before +1 was finished researching. He almost took that fight so imagine how well it would've went into his favour if he had +1. Given, maybe he thought it would've been too late? Any insight on this?


Well way more surprising is Jaedong having 2 control groups of zerglings to counter that. If JD would have straight up gone hydra instead, he would have lost that. Stork was greedy in the timing and JD read that perfectly.

Stork moving out that early wasn't that big of a mistake, rather JD countering the attack perfectly.
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-10 11:55:39
January 10 2017 11:54 GMT
#399
^ good point.

On January 10 2017 20:50 nurle wrote:
I was hoping Stork would win just to watch more of Jaedong. Sadly I dont know how much of this was Jaedong being beast mode or Stork just being piss poor.

I think it was kinda of both tbh. Jaedong played safe and reacted well in the first game, played the usual in the second (Stork didn't really scout and played in the dark) then easily overwhelmed in the macro game while Stork opted for 2 base (kinda all-inish considering he put it all into one attack).
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Zera
Profile Joined April 2010
Lithuania716 Posts
January 10 2017 11:57 GMT
#400
I was having chills seeing JD play so good, he prepared so well for these games

Well, all in all we can all agree that BW is perfectly balanced: RO4 consists of 1 zerg, 1 protoss, 1 terran and (T)Flash.

Can't wait for LeeSsangRok!
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