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c3rberUs
Japan11286 Posts
On December 25 2016 21:08 classicyellow83 wrote: I feel bad for last because of all the shit storm hes gonna receive on YGOSU and his stream chat. It's kinda bad especially when you think that it will happen for pretty much all the other 23 players | ||
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Lachrymose
Australia1928 Posts
To give the actual answer, it's because Korean commentators say it like 'layer', so it's just the cool way to do it if you grew up on Broodwar. + Show Spoiler [Famously] + (12 minutes.) | ||
Peeano
Netherlands4990 Posts
I missed all today's games  | ||
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bovienchien
Vietnam1152 Posts
On December 25 2016 21:04 usopsama wrote: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/XjyI1LB.jpg) this picture is so different from the Ro16 picture. Flash, Sea will be 2 last Terran of this season but I won't surprise when have no any Terran advance ro8. It's so sad today for me and for fan Terran. | ||
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classicyellow83
United States2393 Posts
On December 25 2016 21:16 c3rberUs wrote: It's kinda bad to think that it will happen for pretty much all the other 23 players Not as much for non elite players. No one is talking about Rush on YGOSU. Even when Rush beat Flash twice last week, not a single thread was mentioned about it. Rush was very sad. | ||
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[sc1f]eonzerg
Belgium6590 Posts
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[[Starlight]]
United States1578 Posts
On December 25 2016 21:17 Lachrymose wrote: To give the actual answer, it's because Korean commentators say it like 'layer', so it's just the cool way to do it if you grew up on Broodwar. + Show Spoiler [Famously] + https://youtu.be/Nbi_omDXloI?t=726 (12 minutes.) The Koreans were actually a lot closer to the correct pronunciation than Tasteless and Rapid were, lol. | ||
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outscar
2832 Posts
On December 25 2016 21:11 [[Starlight]] wrote: I guess one can't live on good TvT performances alone. But what about aside from his monstrous TvT his TvP and TvZ were IIRC above 65% from classicyellow's posts plus he was dominating ladder everytime. | ||
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[[Starlight]]
United States1578 Posts
On December 25 2016 21:26 outscar wrote: But what about aside from his monstrous TvT his TvP and TvZ were IIRC above 65% from classicyellow's posts plus he was dominating ladder everytime. I dunno... his TvP and TvZ sure didn't look good tonight. Is that so different from what he did in ASL1? He clobbered a still-getting-back-into-it Flash in TvT, then got clobbered by Shuttle in TvP. | ||
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Bakuryu
Germany1065 Posts
wtf how is that a disgusting statement? we have 0 terrans now, GJ. last vs rush: last played nice, although rush was missing chances with his wraiths, rush just didnt really use them effectively and slowly got choked of ressources. bisu vs hero: the most predictable match in terms of build orders took a fun turn by bisu using a build which he only does like 1% of the time, nice micro by bisu wins him the game even though lings kill some probes in his base. last vs bisu: i was happy to see 1 gate proxy being shut down by wall in + bisu also losing his probe. last scouted everything bisu was doing, yet did not have enough to kill the proxy gate and lost too much in micro. hero vs rush: rush scouted the pool timing and should have known that hero went 3 hatch before pool and should react accordingly.... his micro was not that good and reacted kinda late, giving hero enough time to mass lings. hero vs last: hero played very strong... last played with a lot of errors, it looked nothing like the alphago we know. so after group B with sharp and mind failing more or less horribly, last and rush just followed suit. | ||
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Nemesis
Canada2568 Posts
He also almost had that game vs Bisu if he only didn't overcommit to his attack. | ||
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usopsama
6502 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/jD14nd8.jpg) This map pool though. If Jaedong or hero get paired up with a protoss in the RO8, they are basically dead. | ||
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[[Starlight]]
United States1578 Posts
On December 25 2016 21:34 Nemesis wrote: That was quite a strong play by hero. I was quite impressed with his play. He also almost had that game vs Bisu if he only didn't overcommit to his attack. Have to wonder... who's the best Zerg right now, Jaedong or Hero?  Jaedong has a higher ceiling, but I don't think he's at it right now. | ||
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Bakuryu
Germany1065 Posts
On December 25 2016 21:35 usopsama wrote: This map pool though. If Jaedong or hero get paired up with a protoss in the RO8, they are basically dead. im grinning so hard right now :D are you actually implying a map imbalance with less than 15 games played..... per match up.... over ALL 4 maps. i mean, have you even watched the games? | ||
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darktreb
United States3016 Posts
On December 25 2016 21:36 [[Starlight]] wrote: Have to wonder... who's the best Zerg right now, Jaedong or Hero? Jaedong has a higher ceiling, but I don't think he's at it right now. I think hero is a fair bit better at this very moment. I would never count out JD in a big game or series though. Some guys just "have it" when it comes to being a winner. But in terms of overall skill level / polish in play, hero and Effort are both better bets than Jaedong for the time being. | ||
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outscar
2832 Posts
On December 25 2016 21:43 Bakuryu wrote: im grinning so hard right now :D are you actually implying a map imbalance with less than 15 games played..... per match up.... over ALL 4 maps. i mean, have you even watched the games? So much this. Last time ppl were bitching because TvZ on FS is imba. Now PvZ on CB is imba too then? | ||
Harem
United States11390 Posts
On December 25 2016 21:35 usopsama wrote: This map pool though. If Jaedong or hero get paired up with a protoss in the RO8, they are basically dead. it's not the map pool as the maps are just fine for zergs in zvp. It's just zergs playing dumb and gifting free wins for various reasons much like how terrans have been gifting free wins to zergs lately. | ||
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Lachrymose
Australia1928 Posts
On December 25 2016 21:35 usopsama wrote: This map pool though. If Jaedong or hero get paired up with a protoss in the RO8, they are basically dead. Did you actually just cite the winrates from ASL2 as the source to show that the race imbalance in ASL2 is due to the maps? That's impressively ridiculous. Anyway, here's stats from old TLPD since the amatuer era one has very few entries: Benzene TvZ: 25-14 (64.1%) ZvP: 27-28 (49.1%) PvT: 19-20 (48.7%) Circuit Breaker TvZ: 64-57 (52.9%) ZvP: 59-55 (51.8%) PvT: 71-63 (53%) Eye of the Storm TvZ: 54-46 (54%) ZvP: 43-30 (58.9%) PvT: 52-43 (54.7%) | ||
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[[Starlight]]
United States1578 Posts
 You could make good cases for at least six of the players having a good shot at winning it all... Bisu, Stork, Best, Flash (yep, think he'll advance), Zero, Jaedong. Some really good games to come. | ||
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LaStScan
Korea (South)1289 Posts
On December 25 2016 21:17 bovienchien wrote: this picture is so different from the Ro16 picture. Flash, Sea will be 2 last Terran of this season but I won't surprise when have no any Terran advance ro8. It's so sad today for me and for fan Terran. the moment when they decided to put benzene for final match..  | ||
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