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Japan11285 Posts
On December 25 2016 21:08 classicyellow83 wrote: I feel bad for last because of all the shit storm hes gonna receive on YGOSU and his stream chat. It's kinda bad especially when you think that it will happen for pretty much all the other 23 players
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On December 25 2016 21:08 [[Starlight]] wrote:Show nested quote +On December 25 2016 20:46 ThreeActPlay wrote:On December 25 2016 20:45 [[Starlight]] wrote: lol, why can't the casters pronounce 'Lair'?
"He needs to get his Layer now."
put yo hands in the ayer lololol. To give the actual answer, it's because Korean commentators say it like 'layer', so it's just the cool way to do it if you grew up on Broodwar.
+ Show Spoiler [Famously] +
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Netherlands4641 Posts
I thought it would be nice to watch ASL on a big ass screen with Christmas... I just spent over an hour fiddling with the smarttv at my parents' house to get it to work. Sadly to no avail. I finally settled with that it wasn't gonna happen and I was watching the Final Match on my phone and then the stream suddenly froze mid game because I blew through all my data. Apparently Wi-Fi didn't auto log in, despite it showing on. I'm so done angry with Samsung atm, 2 devices completely fail my expectations. I missed all today's games
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On December 25 2016 21:04 usopsama wrote: this picture is so different from the Ro16 picture.
Flash, Sea will be 2 last Terran of this season but I won't surprise when have no any Terran advance ro8.
It's so sad today for me and for fan Terran.
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On December 25 2016 21:16 c3rberUs wrote:Show nested quote +On December 25 2016 21:08 classicyellow83 wrote: I feel bad for last because of all the shit storm hes gonna receive on YGOSU and his stream chat. It's kinda bad to think that it will happen for pretty much all the other 23 players Not as much for non elite players. No one is talking about Rush on YGOSU. Even when Rush beat Flash twice last week, not a single thread was mentioned about it. Rush was very sad.
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i gonna need to fix my vision facepalm
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On December 25 2016 21:17 Lachrymose wrote:Show nested quote +On December 25 2016 21:08 [[Starlight]] wrote:On December 25 2016 20:46 ThreeActPlay wrote:On December 25 2016 20:45 [[Starlight]] wrote: lol, why can't the casters pronounce 'Lair'?
"He needs to get his Layer now."
put yo hands in the ayer lololol. To give the actual answer, it's because Korean commentators say it like 'layer', so it's just the cool way to do it if you grew up on Broodwar. + Show Spoiler [Famously] +
The Koreans were actually a lot closer to the correct pronunciation than Tasteless and Rapid were, lol.
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On December 25 2016 21:11 [[Starlight]] wrote:Show nested quote +On December 25 2016 21:08 classicyellow83 wrote: I feel bad for last because of all the shit storm hes gonna receive on YGOSU and his stream chat. I guess one can't live on good TvT performances alone.
But what about aside from his monstrous TvT his TvP and TvZ were IIRC above 65% from classicyellow's posts plus he was dominating ladder everytime.
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On December 25 2016 21:26 outscar wrote:Show nested quote +On December 25 2016 21:11 [[Starlight]] wrote:On December 25 2016 21:08 classicyellow83 wrote: I feel bad for last because of all the shit storm hes gonna receive on YGOSU and his stream chat. I guess one can't live on good TvT performances alone. But what about aside from his monstrous TvT his TvP and TvZ were IIRC above 65% from classicyellow's posts plus he was dominating ladder everytime.
I dunno... his TvP and TvZ sure didn't look good tonight.
Is that so different from what he did in ASL1? He clobbered a still-getting-back-into-it Flash in TvT, then got clobbered by Shuttle in TvP.
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On December 25 2016 21:07 Lucumo wrote:Show nested quote +On December 25 2016 21:06 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:On December 25 2016 21:04 Bakuryu wrote: im sad... just sad.... bisu winning over hero was the only good thing. we are very close to loss our relationszergship gentleman Yeah, what a disgusting statement.
wtf how is that a disgusting statement? we have 0 terrans now, GJ.
last vs rush: last played nice, although rush was missing chances with his wraiths, rush just didnt really use them effectively and slowly got choked of ressources.
bisu vs hero: the most predictable match in terms of build orders took a fun turn by bisu using a build which he only does like 1% of the time, nice micro by bisu wins him the game even though lings kill some probes in his base.
last vs bisu: i was happy to see 1 gate proxy being shut down by wall in + bisu also losing his probe. last scouted everything bisu was doing, yet did not have enough to kill the proxy gate and lost too much in micro.
hero vs rush: rush scouted the pool timing and should have known that hero went 3 hatch before pool and should react accordingly.... his micro was not that good and reacted kinda late, giving hero enough time to mass lings.
hero vs last: hero played very strong... last played with a lot of errors, it looked nothing like the alphago we know.
so after group B with sharp and mind failing more or less horribly, last and rush just followed suit.
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That was quite a strong play by hero. I was quite impressed with his play.
He also almost had that game vs Bisu if he only didn't overcommit to his attack.
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This map pool though.
If Jaedong or hero get paired up with a protoss in the RO8, they are basically dead.
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On December 25 2016 21:34 Nemesis wrote: That was quite a strong play by hero. I was quite impressed with his play.
He also almost had that game vs Bisu if he only didn't overcommit to his attack. Have to wonder... who's the best Zerg right now, Jaedong or Hero?
Jaedong has a higher ceiling, but I don't think he's at it right now.
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On December 25 2016 21:35 usopsama wrote:This map pool though. If Jaedong or hero get paired up with a protoss in the RO8, they are basically dead.
im grinning so hard right now :D are you actually implying a map imbalance with less than 15 games played..... per match up.... over ALL 4 maps.
i mean, have you even watched the games?
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On December 25 2016 21:36 [[Starlight]] wrote:Show nested quote +On December 25 2016 21:34 Nemesis wrote: That was quite a strong play by hero. I was quite impressed with his play.
He also almost had that game vs Bisu if he only didn't overcommit to his attack. Have to wonder... who's the best Zerg right now, Jaedong or Hero? Jaedong has a higher ceiling, but I don't think he's at it right now.
I think hero is a fair bit better at this very moment. I would never count out JD in a big game or series though. Some guys just "have it" when it comes to being a winner.
But in terms of overall skill level / polish in play, hero and Effort are both better bets than Jaedong for the time being.
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On December 25 2016 21:43 Bakuryu wrote:Show nested quote +On December 25 2016 21:35 usopsama wrote:This map pool though. If Jaedong or hero get paired up with a protoss in the RO8, they are basically dead. im grinning so hard right now :D are you actually implying a map imbalance with less than 15 games played..... per match up.... over ALL 4 maps. i mean, have you even watched the games?
So much this. Last time ppl were bitching because TvZ on FS is imba. Now PvZ on CB is imba too then?
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United States11390 Posts
On December 25 2016 21:35 usopsama wrote:This map pool though. If Jaedong or hero get paired up with a protoss in the RO8, they are basically dead. it's not the map pool as the maps are just fine for zergs in zvp. It's just zergs playing dumb and gifting free wins for various reasons much like how terrans have been gifting free wins to zergs lately.
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On December 25 2016 21:35 usopsama wrote:This map pool though. If Jaedong or hero get paired up with a protoss in the RO8, they are basically dead.
Did you actually just cite the winrates from ASL2 as the source to show that the race imbalance in ASL2 is due to the maps? That's impressively ridiculous.
Anyway, here's stats from old TLPD since the amatuer era one has very few entries:
Benzene TvZ: 25-14 (64.1%) ZvP: 27-28 (49.1%) PvT: 19-20 (48.7%)
Circuit Breaker TvZ: 64-57 (52.9%) ZvP: 59-55 (51.8%) PvT: 71-63 (53%)
Eye of the Storm TvZ: 54-46 (54%) ZvP: 43-30 (58.9%) PvT: 52-43 (54.7%)
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I think I'm gonna love love love this Ro8.
You could make good cases for at least six of the players having a good shot at winning it all... Bisu, Stork, Best, Flash (yep, think he'll advance), Zero, Jaedong.
Some really good games to come.
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On December 25 2016 21:17 bovienchien wrote:this picture is so different from the Ro16 picture. Flash, Sea will be 2 last Terran of this season but I won't surprise when have no any Terran advance ro8. It's so sad today for me and for fan Terran.
the moment when they decided to put benzene for final match..
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