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Levque
Profile Joined October 2016
88 Posts
December 12 2016 12:59 GMT
#381
Wow, JD just flipped a switch there and completely took over the game. A lesser player would of been rattled after that successful drop that killed all his tech.

Well played by Mong, his games were great.

Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
December 12 2016 13:04 GMT
#382
On December 12 2016 21:50 FFW_Rude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2016 21:49 Incognoto wrote:
On December 12 2016 21:45 FFW_Rude wrote:
On December 12 2016 21:44 Incognoto wrote:
On December 12 2016 21:43 FFW_Rude wrote:
On December 12 2016 21:42 Incognoto wrote:
On December 12 2016 21:41 FFW_Rude wrote:
On December 12 2016 21:39 Incognoto wrote:
On December 12 2016 21:24 FFW_Rude wrote:
That Savior-y lurker backstab just saved him


you mean a savory lurker drop?


No i was talking about the 5 lurker that he used for the contains. He didn't send them back. He hid them far from the vision off the terran than repositionned them to cut back the reinforcement army


ah those

i thought you were talking about the lurker he dropped to take out the armory upgrades

i guess lurker drops wasn't what savior was famous for


There's a really really good Final edit on Savior's here. If you prefer i have translated it in French a long time ago. I can find it for you if you want.


my english > my french no worries

i know savior was the savior of zerg in his prime and he used strong strategic moves to delay pushes and such. i read the TLnet articles about it, but maybe we aren't talking about the same thing? hmm


Yes we are "God of the battlefield 1 and 2" final edit.

Thank you eonzerg for the LR ! See you tomorrow.


yeah those articles were excellent.

btw my first post was meant to be a pun/joke




My French > My english


cheers! here's to enjoying some brood war action
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[[Starlight]]
Profile Joined December 2013
United States1578 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-12 13:20:45
December 12 2016 13:20 GMT
#383
On December 12 2016 21:42 TheNewEra wrote:
Best games so far of any group + not much sc2 references. Would watch again.

Amen. Last two games especially.


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valas991
Profile Joined September 2014
Hungary181 Posts
December 12 2016 13:31 GMT
#384
On December 12 2016 21:59 Levque wrote:
Wow, JD just flipped a switch there and completely took over the game. A lesser player would of been rattled after that successful drop that killed all his tech.

Well played by Mong, his games were great.



As someone who never played BW (nor SC2) MP, gotta have noob questions.
Did JD win the game or it was rather Mong losing it?
I mean, I thought JD was dead when most of his tech got destroyed
How did he not die there?
How did he managed to get all those ultras, and eventually win the game?
"Men Live And Die, Memories Form And Fade, Everything Has Its End... Except Music... Music Will Never Die..."
classicyellow83
Profile Joined June 2016
United States2393 Posts
December 12 2016 13:40 GMT
#385
On December 12 2016 22:31 valas991 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2016 21:59 Levque wrote:
Wow, JD just flipped a switch there and completely took over the game. A lesser player would of been rattled after that successful drop that killed all his tech.

Well played by Mong, his games were great.



As someone who never played BW (nor SC2) MP, gotta have noob questions.
Did JD win the game or it was rather Mong losing it?
I mean, I thought JD was dead when most of his tech got destroyed
How did he not die there?
How did he managed to get all those ultras, and eventually win the game?

FLash said JD was still way ahead even when with the successful drop. Reason being zerg secured 4 gas while terran only had 2 gas and Zergs drones were all saturated.
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valas991
Profile Joined September 2014
Hungary181 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-12 13:52:52
December 12 2016 13:42 GMT
#386
On December 12 2016 22:40 classicyellow83 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2016 22:31 valas991 wrote:
On December 12 2016 21:59 Levque wrote:
Wow, JD just flipped a switch there and completely took over the game. A lesser player would of been rattled after that successful drop that killed all his tech.

Well played by Mong, his games were great.



As someone who never played BW (nor SC2) MP, gotta have noob questions.
Did JD win the game or it was rather Mong losing it?
I mean, I thought JD was dead when most of his tech got destroyed
How did he not die there?
How did he managed to get all those ultras, and eventually win the game?

FLash said JD was still way ahead even when with the successful drop. Reason being zerg secured 4 gas while terran only had 2 gas and Zergs drones were all saturated.

Okay, thanks for the quick reply. Also, makes lot of sense (obviously)

EDIT
Also thank you BisuDagger for your detailed reply as well.
"Men Live And Die, Memories Form And Fade, Everything Has Its End... Except Music... Music Will Never Die..."
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19339 Posts
December 12 2016 13:46 GMT
#387
On December 12 2016 22:31 valas991 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2016 21:59 Levque wrote:
Wow, JD just flipped a switch there and completely took over the game. A lesser player would of been rattled after that successful drop that killed all his tech.

Well played by Mong, his games were great.



As someone who never played BW (nor SC2) MP, gotta have noob questions.
Did JD win the game or it was rather Mong losing it?
I mean, I thought JD was dead when most of his tech got destroyed
How did he not die there?
How did he managed to get all those ultras, and eventually win the game?

The fourth base was key and I'd say Jaedong won that game.

1. Mong pushed on JD with a 5 rax build. JD defended only losing units. Mong did no damage to JD's bases or economy.
2. Jaedong expanded and got up to 4 gasses. 4gas zerg means defiler and ultra tech are affordable
3. Jaedong's mutas did a great job of denying the left side of the map expansions.
4. Other then the drop inside JD's main, Mong was unable to apply pressure. Even when he lost tech, he was able to just spam fully upgraded zerglings to help control the game. If they spawning pool was picked off, Mong would have been able to make a move on JD. Instead JD just patiently amassed gas while lings kept him alive. Mong needed to also stim in and kill the drones in the main. The evo chamber kills were a big mistake imo. There were much more important buildings/workers to kill.
5. Those later game lurker drops and constant ling attacks allows JD to make a large bank for the cow transition
6. JD then finally took a fifth base while Mong was spending too much poorly defending his own bases.
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Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8658 Posts
December 12 2016 13:47 GMT
#388
On December 12 2016 22:40 classicyellow83 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2016 22:31 valas991 wrote:
On December 12 2016 21:59 Levque wrote:
Wow, JD just flipped a switch there and completely took over the game. A lesser player would of been rattled after that successful drop that killed all his tech.

Well played by Mong, his games were great.



As someone who never played BW (nor SC2) MP, gotta have noob questions.
Did JD win the game or it was rather Mong losing it?
I mean, I thought JD was dead when most of his tech got destroyed
How did he not die there?
How did he managed to get all those ultras, and eventually win the game?

FLash said JD was still way ahead even when with the successful drop. Reason being zerg secured 4 gas while terran only had 2 gas and Zergs drones were all saturated.


Yep, looking back, losing all that tech looked way more devastating than it actually was. I think this was a case of JD winning the game and not Mong losing it. JD also did a great job of denying Mong his third and fourth gas. JD also destroyed the armories and denied Mong from getting his 2-2, which was alread on the way. JD already had 1-2 upgrades before his evos went down irrc.
[[Starlight]]
Profile Joined December 2013
United States1578 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-12 13:58:22
December 12 2016 13:54 GMT
#389
On December 12 2016 22:47 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2016 22:40 classicyellow83 wrote:
On December 12 2016 22:31 valas991 wrote:
On December 12 2016 21:59 Levque wrote:
Wow, JD just flipped a switch there and completely took over the game. A lesser player would of been rattled after that successful drop that killed all his tech.

Well played by Mong, his games were great.



As someone who never played BW (nor SC2) MP, gotta have noob questions.
Did JD win the game or it was rather Mong losing it?
I mean, I thought JD was dead when most of his tech got destroyed
How did he not die there?
How did he managed to get all those ultras, and eventually win the game?

FLash said JD was still way ahead even when with the successful drop. Reason being zerg secured 4 gas while terran only had 2 gas and Zergs drones were all saturated.


Yep, looking back, losing all that tech looked way more devastating than it actually was. I think this was a case of JD winning the game and not Mong losing it. JD also did a great job of denying Mong his third and fourth gas. JD also destroyed the armories and denied Mong from getting his 2-2, which was alread on the way. JD already had 1-2 upgrades before his evos went down irrc.


Yup. But JD's spawning pool only survived by 17hp. Would've interesting to see how close it would've been had the pool gone down, since JD was depending so heavily on lings for much of the game.

Still think JD would've won. But Mong put up a stiff fight, my respect for him has increased.

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DarkNetHunter
Profile Joined October 2012
1224 Posts
December 12 2016 13:56 GMT
#390
On December 12 2016 22:40 classicyellow83 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2016 22:31 valas991 wrote:
On December 12 2016 21:59 Levque wrote:
Wow, JD just flipped a switch there and completely took over the game. A lesser player would of been rattled after that successful drop that killed all his tech.

Well played by Mong, his games were great.



As someone who never played BW (nor SC2) MP, gotta have noob questions.
Did JD win the game or it was rather Mong losing it?
I mean, I thought JD was dead when most of his tech got destroyed
How did he not die there?
How did he managed to get all those ultras, and eventually win the game?

FLash said JD was still way ahead even when with the successful drop. Reason being zerg secured 4 gas while terran only had 2 gas and Zergs drones were all saturated.


Thanks for this insight! It must really look so different from a Pros perspective as to who is ahead or behind at any stage, would love to read more things like this!

Learn from the mistakes of others. You can't live long enough to make them all yourself.
Greg_J
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
China4409 Posts
December 12 2016 14:00 GMT
#391
Wow, Artosis really didn't rate Mong at all did he. Jaedong, Best and a couple of amateurs. ouch, sting.
Shana
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Indonesia1814 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-12 15:05:20
December 12 2016 15:01 GMT
#392
Can't believe I fell asleep just after Mong vs Hack finished

Anyway to find VOD? (BD one, not artosis)
Edit: nvm, found it on Afreeca live archive
Believing in what lies ahead. | That which we call a rose, by any other name would smell as sweet.
StarscreamG1
Profile Joined February 2011
Portugal1653 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-12 16:29:14
December 12 2016 16:28 GMT
#393
What a time to be alive...Brood War is the greatest thing ever.
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ThreeActPlay
Profile Joined April 2011
United States249 Posts
December 12 2016 16:33 GMT
#394
LEE JAEDONGGGGGGG
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St3MoR
Profile Joined November 2002
Spain3256 Posts
December 12 2016 17:30 GMT
#395
I couldn't watch the last game, looks like I have some catching up to do ^^
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letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
December 12 2016 18:20 GMT
#396
Well any zerg would advance from this group, I am surprised JD had trouble with Best considering his PvZ.
Crisium
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1618 Posts
December 12 2016 19:08 GMT
#397
Great final game. I was worried when the tech was sniped, and also the brief period of 5 base Terran against 4 base Zerg. But the lurker drops gave him the eco advantage back, and cow drops for the win.
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outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
December 12 2016 19:52 GMT
#398
That final game was soooo scrappy! I changed my mind like 5 times guessing who gonna win this... Incredible comeback by JD, he switched his Tyrant mode on by outmultitasking. Mong got really efficient mech army, his multitasking was not bad with multiple drops but I guess he's not mech monster like Light. Definitely 2nd best game of season after Rain. vs. Effort.

Let's hope Dong won't meet Flash in same group. I'm not even gonna judge if they gonna rig brackets to ensure they won't meet until finals
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FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10384 Posts
December 12 2016 20:00 GMT
#399
On December 12 2016 21:37 FFW_Rude wrote:
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On December 12 2016 21:03 FlaShFTW wrote:
Ok i need to sleep now but jaedong is gonna lose and hero is gonnage t owned tomorrow. Rip our zergs.

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About that ...

Good i was wrong. Srsly though thank god we at least have one zerg. Also time for the Sea, Flash, Bisu, JD group od death.
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[[Starlight]]
Profile Joined December 2013
United States1578 Posts
December 12 2016 20:22 GMT
#400
On December 12 2016 23:00 Greg_J wrote:
Wow, Artosis really didn't rate Mong at all did he. Jaedong, Best and a couple of amateurs. ouch, sting.

I think Mong disproved that assessment.

Hackamin to some extent, too.




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