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On March 03 2007 02:01 funKie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2007 01:59 xM(Z wrote:On March 03 2007 01:57 Shiva_Chandra wrote:
Probably the most lame final I've ever seen, upset or not. u suck a good rape is always great No, you suck. Are you reading the posts above? was it rape Maybe, Was it saviors worst play till date? Fucking yes. he was so lost playing that it was almost painful to watch him. -_-;
Yes and obiviously Bisus awesome play had a big part in it. He humiliated Savior so bad he didn't know how to respond to it.
It's not like Bisu played ok and Saviour sucked. If you can't make a better analysis of the games you are retarded.
Bisu playing GREAT had a HUGE part in Savior playing bad. Get it?
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On March 03 2007 02:34 ArC_man wrote:
His eyes were so unfocused because he was getting ass raped by Bisu. Bisu kept him confused and fumbling around all 3 games. Savior was not able to play to ANY of his strengths and the games never went past mid-game. I would've liked to see late game Savior vs Bisu though.
My thoughts EXACTLY.
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On March 03 2007 02:53 pr0n wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2007 02:20 BluzMan wrote:
Well, fanboy motherfuckers, DON'T YOU FUCKING DARE to take away Bisu's victory. The kid just 3-0'ed the scariest zerg in the universe right after 3-0'ing Nal_Ra, whose 80% is the highest PvP stats ever. He deserves his place. He is a top player, time to accept that. I'm not singling out you here, bluz, you just said the same thing a lot of people did that I wanted to address, and I wanted to quote someone: Why is pretty much everyone here so defensive/aggressive concerning people they've never met in real life? How would taking away from Bisu's win affect anyone here personally, or vice versa? I think we all agree Bisu won the series easily, and that sAviOr did not look to be playing at his best. Whether this means Bisu is the best starcraft player ever, whether sAviOr let him win and the victory doesn't mean as much, or whatever...it's all a matter of personal opinion and should have no affect on anyone here's life. Not only is it just a game...it's just a game being played by people you've never met. This is an online forum. Just because people disagree with you doesn't mean they aren't entitled to their opinions. I know a lot of you are joking, but I'm sure some of you are taking this all way too seriously when it is completely insignificant.
What the hell are you doing here if you have no passion for the game? That was the most stupid bullshit I have ever heard.
I love when people have passion for the game and root for players, but you obviously lack that dedication.
PS. Sorry for all the posts, didn't think about editing them all into one post. I will think about that next time
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wat the fuk? rofl
wow bisu amazing =]
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Sweden33719 Posts
You guys complain about bisu using same strategy 3 games in a row (which, btw, he did not) yet fail to realize that savior used exactly the same strategy every single game.. Which also happens to be his like, only ZvP strategy?
Bisu abused it to no end, perfect timing, perfect counter, perfect play - savior was shellshocked.
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On March 03 2007 02:47 Brutalisk wrote:
I guess we all accept Bisu's skill and that he deserved that, but let's face it, Savior did the wrong choices 3 times(!!!) (mainly mutas vs. too many sairs, and too many expansions, too less units, no overlord speed). Savior spent much on those mutas and they were *worthless* in every game, yet he *refused* to change/adapt his strategy. He simply had the wrong units every fucking time and his timing was bad as well. He played like a newbie (yes, you can't call that anything else), and Bisu just rightfully rolled over him with *3 times the same strategy*.
No great games at all.
That's all true, but you have to understand that doesn't take away anything from Bisu. it's just that's what happens when someone makes superior strategy decisions, his opponent looks like an idiot. i have no idea why savior didnt do the obvious like overlord speed, spores at exps, and going hydra/lurk instead of opening with muta all 3 games, but the thing is thats easy for us to say sitting at home watching the games. if it had been savior who made the superior strategy decisions, we would be saying "omg wtf was bisu thinking, what a retard."
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OMG -8 LIQUIBET POINTS
But damn, nice job Bisu just fucking dismantled the King, FINALLY someone does it.
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On March 03 2007 05:02 Locke. wrote:Savior got to MSL finals 5 times in a row and won 3 times. He played both leagues together reached 1st and 2nd place virtually on the same time. That is simply AMAZING results. People here treat 2nd place as if its a disgrace. If anything, this win shows that Savior isn't doing "magic" or imbalance tricks. He just constantly wins (won) his ZvPs through hard work and determination. The psychological pressure on Savior was FAR greater than on Bisu. He was considered the winner a long time before this final. I was constantly amazed with how he managed this pressure in the past and won. But he is also human and BW IS extremely competitive. If you ever played or worked in a highly competitive field you know that there are days when nothing works no matter how much you try it's just simply part of the deal. The thing that really matters is how you get up the next morning and continue practicing as usual. So congratulations to Bisu on his fantastic play but take Savior's loss in proportion.. Besides, this drama will make the next season a lot better 
I agree with this. But 3-0 is incredible, I didn't think it would be possible, and coming from a protoss too.
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Give savior some time to realize that he lost, he's not used to it... He will focus on how to slay bisu now, and he will chose/pic bisu in tournaments whenever he can, challange him on superfight etc. He will have his revenge! And bisu will also be humiliated.
Don't make the maestro angry, its not healthy O_o;
(then savior will go to thailand and see who gave bisu the strats and kill him)
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this'd better stop the z>p imbalance arguments forever.
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On March 03 2007 08:43 Cambium wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2007 07:09 spammerA wrote:
Assorted DT cheese only works today, Savior will 3:0 Bisu in superfight 5, just tune in and watch. While I wouldn't call that a cheese, but what Bisu used was very weak and dangerous. I don't understand why he would assume that he could beat Savior using the same strategy three times in a row. That itself is a gamble imho. With proper analysis, it would not take much to crush that build, basing this on the fact that "no strategy is perfect". Heck, if Savior gambled and went with a four-pool build in any of the three games, the result would be really different.
bisu did enough scouting to determine that savior was going the same B.O so why not counter it with the same strategy which worked before?
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On March 03 2007 09:28 tKd_ wrote:
this'd better stop the z>p imbalance arguments forever. a single series of games proves nothing at all (no matter the perspective ofthe person using it as argument)
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also savior scouted wrong all games and bisu scouted savior on the first spot every game. lucker! I didnt not see saviors perfect intuition in any of these games. If you watch nada vs savior @ hitchhiker where nada makes a rush savior already felt it coming and started ling speed, upgrade ready PERFECT timing when savior is countering.. everything went his way and usually does.
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On March 03 2007 09:40 AnOth3rDAy wrote:
also savior scouted wrong all games and bisu scouted savior on the first spot every game. lucker! I didnt not see saviors perfect intuition in any of these games. If you watch nada vs savior @ hitchhiker where nada makes a rush savior already felt it coming and started ling speed, upgrade ready PERFECT timing when savior is countering.. everything went his way and usually does.
Yea cause, scouting right has a lot to do with game experience, intuition, and skill/
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Fuck, I just lost $150. ><
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Canada7170 Posts
On March 03 2007 09:40 AnOth3rDAy wrote:
also savior scouted wrong all games and bisu scouted savior on the first spot every game. lucker! I didnt not see saviors perfect intuition in any of these games. If you watch nada vs savior @ hitchhiker where nada makes a rush savior already felt it coming and started ling speed, upgrade ready PERFECT timing when savior is countering.. everything went his way and usually does.
Right. So if we assume that in a PERFECT world (mathematically), Savior would scout Bisu 2 out of 4, and bisu would scout savior 2 out of 4. Let's say that scouting was what lost savior those games. Then, it should be 2-2. But Bisu won on Blitz, where they know the other position, and raped the FUCK out of savior anyway. So gg.
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lol morons i was trying to point out that usually everything goes saviors way (including the scouting but that is just some wierd thing about savior and not his intuition), even when people try to cheese him or use wierd builds. Like boxer 0-3 savior. Savior's intuiton is usually great but these games he was raped coz of very bad choises all 3 games. Its very unlike him, even if bisu played well.
only explenation is that ra and savior has now recieved a 1 million dollar check from a bankaccount in thailand.
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u gotta skate8152 Posts
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EPT
