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MBC SL Finals - Bisu vs Saviour LIVE - Page 53

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to miss the mark
Profile Joined November 2005
Bosnia-Herzegovina1381 Posts
March 02 2007 20:27 GMT
#1041
I just woke up, came to check the results.
One Thing:

WHAT THE FUCK!?!
Act happy, feel happy, be happy, without a reason in the world. Then you can love, and do what you will.
ChApFoU
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
France2984 Posts
March 02 2007 20:28 GMT
#1042
BANG ! I just finished reading the reports and I KNEW THE LITTLE GUY COULD DO IT !

At last the endless savior asslicking is coming to an end. The maestro lost the pace
"I honestly think that whoever invented toilet paper in a genius" Kang Min
muramasa
Profile Joined March 2005
Canada1299 Posts
March 02 2007 20:30 GMT
#1043
Pounce

Someone needs to put the commercial on youtube though.
Hong Jin Ho. Nevar forget.
ChApFoU
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
France2984 Posts
March 02 2007 20:31 GMT
#1044
Geez do you realize, the little newcomer just beated Ra AND Savior 3-0 !! What a fucking monster
"I honestly think that whoever invented toilet paper in a genius" Kang Min
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23342 Posts
March 02 2007 20:35 GMT
#1045
GW Bisu!

Coming from a savior supporter.

He underestimated toss. He need's a break now and a fresh restart to mass pwnage.
WhatisProtoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
Korea (South)2325 Posts
March 02 2007 20:37 GMT
#1046
On March 03 2007 02:55 Carnac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2007 02:46 Manifesto7 wrote:
On March 03 2007 02:42 Masamune wrote:
I kind of feel sad for Savior. I was rooting for Bisu to win but I wish the games were a bit less one sided and would have gone to at least game 4 or 5.

Also, people constantly posting that hopefully this will prove that pvz is not imbalanced should stfu. You can't look at one series and claim that because a protoss beat a zerg in the finals (even the best zerg), that suddenly this mu is completely even. You have to look at the whole picture before making a judgement. There's a reason that many t and z players win big tournaments and one can argue that it's not by chance.


There have been far more P winners than Z winner in the major leagues. Know what you are talking about before you speak.
uhhhhhhhhhh

OSL 7 protoss

Hanaro Communication Tooniverse (Grrrr...)
Freechal + Sky 2001 (Garimto)
Sky 2002 (Reach)
MyCube (Kingdom)
NHN Hangame (Nal_rA)
So1 (Anytime)

MSL 2 Protoss

Stout (Nal_rA)
GomTV (Bisu)

Total 9


OSL 3 Zerg

Gillette + Ever 2 (July)
ShinHan 3 (Savior)

MSL 5 Zerg

YRTGK (Gorush)
Uzoo + Pringles + Pringles 2 (Savior)
Cyon (Chojja)

KT KTF Premiere League 1 Zerg
No2 (July)

Total 9

OSL is the major league. Protoss has been much more successful in OSL than zerg.

There is a difference between MSL and OSL. KT KTF Premiere does not even belong up there.
Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
March 02 2007 20:39 GMT
#1047
DOUBLE YOU TEE EFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
Terran & Potato Salad.
Brutalisk
Profile Joined February 2007
794 Posts
March 02 2007 20:46 GMT
#1048
I still don't get Savior... what was he thinking (was he at all)? "Ah, seven sairs raping my Overlords... well, let's ignore that. I'll just expand one more time and not get overlord speed at all. These overlords are annoying anyway. Wait a minute, why can't I build shit?" - "Ah, a DT is killing all my drones... nevermind, let's start one more expansion and get that one running instead. Anything will work, cause I'm god now" - "Ah, Bisu is doing the exact same thing he has done the last 2 times, that's funny, I think I'll do the same what I did before once again. I just know it has to work this time. Somehow. Yeah. And x mutas vs. x sairs sounds great, I'll try that."

Maybe he was really drunk or otherwise high.
Live2Win *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States6657 Posts
March 02 2007 20:48 GMT
#1049
ok. I just woke up, cursing myself for oversleeping and missing the finals. I try to avoid spoiler and go to dl the VODs at clubbox, where they have 5 VODs to dl. Only I realize game 4 and 5 are 9kbs. So I realize oh, 3-0 rape... probably savior. I don't care about spoilers anymore, Savior raped a P 3-0 again.... and go on FiFo.

Then I get a heart attack
SAY YES TO STIM KIDS!!! XD
Adamthegreat
Profile Joined February 2003
Sweden1179 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-03-02 21:01:23
March 02 2007 21:00 GMT
#1050
So what game do you guys think was the most impressive? Most even? most thrilling?

Game 1 was the closest IMO, Bisu was a little lucky to first kill that spire and then kill all the drones at the main when Savior forgot to kill the dt.

Game 3 is among the most impressive pvz games i've ever seen, such a perfect strategy and perfect execution.

Game 2 was maybe the most thrilling, with maybe the decisive moment being Savior morphing and burrowing 4-5 lurkers to tightly together, and all died to 2 fast storms...

-_-v
infinity21 *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada6683 Posts
March 02 2007 21:06 GMT
#1051
O_o...
wow... just wow
Official Entusman #21
KizZBG
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
u gotta skate8152 Posts
March 02 2007 21:07 GMT
#1052
L2W, have fun watching, and make sure you post your thoughts of the games.
eSTRO for life | #2 Sea.Really fan! | #1 GosI[Flying] fan! | Clide - best SC2 terran!
Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-03-02 21:21:43
March 02 2007 21:19 GMT
#1053
On March 03 2007 05:37 WhatisProtoss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2007 02:55 Carnac wrote:
On March 03 2007 02:46 Manifesto7 wrote:
On March 03 2007 02:42 Masamune wrote:
I kind of feel sad for Savior. I was rooting for Bisu to win but I wish the games were a bit less one sided and would have gone to at least game 4 or 5.

Also, people constantly posting that hopefully this will prove that pvz is not imbalanced should stfu. You can't look at one series and claim that because a protoss beat a zerg in the finals (even the best zerg), that suddenly this mu is completely even. You have to look at the whole picture before making a judgement. There's a reason that many t and z players win big tournaments and one can argue that it's not by chance.


There have been far more P winners than Z winner in the major leagues. Know what you are talking about before you speak.
uhhhhhhhhhh

OSL 7 protoss

Hanaro Communication Tooniverse (Grrrr...)
Freechal + Sky 2001 (Garimto)
Sky 2002 (Reach)
MyCube (Kingdom)
NHN Hangame (Nal_rA)
So1 (Anytime)

MSL 2 Protoss

Stout (Nal_rA)
GomTV (Bisu)

Total 9


OSL 3 Zerg

Gillette + Ever 2 (July)
ShinHan 3 (Savior)

MSL 5 Zerg

YRTGK (Gorush)
Uzoo + Pringles + Pringles 2 (Savior)
Cyon (Chojja)

KT KTF Premiere League 1 Zerg
No2 (July)

Total 9

OSL is the major league. Protoss has been much more successful in OSL than zerg.

There is a difference between MSL and OSL. KT KTF Premiere does not even belong up there.
we all know that osl carries more weight than msl, especially in korea. nevertheless we consider it a major league here. and kt kft can certainly be called major looking at the players that played, the format and price money -.-
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itemlock
Profile Joined January 2007
United States256 Posts
March 02 2007 21:22 GMT
#1054
Holy fucking shit... are you serious? o.O;; GJ Bisu... -_-
???
KizZBG
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
u gotta skate8152 Posts
March 02 2007 21:32 GMT
#1055
Thailand is imba :p

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eSTRO for life | #2 Sea.Really fan! | #1 GosI[Flying] fan! | Clide - best SC2 terran!
tfeign
Profile Joined June 2004
United States2980 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-03-02 21:35:49
March 02 2007 21:33 GMT
#1056
On March 03 2007 02:59 Manifesto7 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2007 02:55 Carnac wrote:
On March 03 2007 02:46 Manifesto7 wrote:
On March 03 2007 02:42 Masamune wrote:
I kind of feel sad for Savior. I was rooting for Bisu to win but I wish the games were a bit less one sided and would have gone to at least game 4 or 5.

Also, people constantly posting that hopefully this will prove that pvz is not imbalanced should stfu. You can't look at one series and claim that because a protoss beat a zerg in the finals (even the best zerg), that suddenly this mu is completely even. You have to look at the whole picture before making a judgement. There's a reason that many t and z players win big tournaments and one can argue that it's not by chance.


There have been far more P winners than Z winner in the major leagues. Know what you are talking about before you speak.
uhhhhhhhhhh

OSL 7 protoss

Hanaro Communication Tooniverse (Grrrr...)
Freechal + Sky 2001 (Garimto)
Sky 2002 (Reach)
MyCube (Kingdom)
NHN Hangame (Nal_rA)
So1 (Anytime)

MSL 2 Protoss

Stout (Nal_rA)
GomTV (Bisu)

Total 9


OSL 3 Zerg

Gillette + Ever 2 (July)
ShinHan 3 (Savior)

MSL 5 Zerg

YRTGK (Gorush)
Uzoo + Pringles + Pringles 2 (Savior)
Cyon (Chojja)

KT KTF Premiere League 1 Zerg
No2 (July)

Total 9


Get bent. KTKTF doesnt count.


Grrrr's victories in the ancient age of BW tells more about pvz balance than the biggest prize money tournament ever? We should count ancient OSL results from the past millennium but not KTKTF?

All honestly, Masamune is right. But it is completely irrelevant to bring in past league winners into discussion. That has little to do with the subject. Many T's win leagues because all the P's were been taken out by Z's. If you're gonna argue about pvz balance, then you need to argue pvz, you don't argue pvz balance by arguing about past league winners.

One series does not prove anything about balance. Far too many people look at a tiny number of games and make bold conclusions that are plainly wrong. Any progamer can beat any other progamer on any given day. Any progamer P can beat any pro gamer Z on any day. Anyone can look at a single series and blindly argue about anything. But, the big picture has been and will most likely always will be is that on an average set of maps, Z wins noticeably more than a P player of equal skill in zvp. Some pro Z's have zvp records that are 70%+, 80%+, even 90%. No pro P player comes even close to this.

This final proves that any pro gamer can beat any other pro gamer. It does not prove anything else.
Sadir
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Vatican City State1176 Posts
March 02 2007 21:35 GMT
#1057
On March 03 2007 05:48 Live2Win wrote:
ok. I just woke up, cursing myself for oversleeping and missing the finals. I try to avoid spoiler and go to dl the VODs at clubbox, where they have 5 VODs to dl. Only I realize game 4 and 5 are 9kbs. So I realize oh, 3-0 rape... probably savior. I don't care about spoilers anymore, Savior raped a P 3-0 again.... and go on FiFo.

Then I get a heart attack


lol, somehow I believe you =)
SCNewb
Profile Joined June 2006
Canada2210 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-03-02 21:50:20
March 02 2007 21:49 GMT
#1058
YES! YES! Bisu I love you....I knew he could do it
Huge iloveOov fan
Live2Win *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States6657 Posts
March 02 2007 21:52 GMT
#1059
On March 03 2007 05:37 WhatisProtoss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2007 02:55 Carnac wrote:
On March 03 2007 02:46 Manifesto7 wrote:
On March 03 2007 02:42 Masamune wrote:
I kind of feel sad for Savior. I was rooting for Bisu to win but I wish the games were a bit less one sided and would have gone to at least game 4 or 5.

Also, people constantly posting that hopefully this will prove that pvz is not imbalanced should stfu. You can't look at one series and claim that because a protoss beat a zerg in the finals (even the best zerg), that suddenly this mu is completely even. You have to look at the whole picture before making a judgement. There's a reason that many t and z players win big tournaments and one can argue that it's not by chance.


There have been far more P winners than Z winner in the major leagues. Know what you are talking about before you speak.
uhhhhhhhhhh

OSL 7 protoss

Hanaro Communication Tooniverse (Grrrr...)
Freechal + Sky 2001 (Garimto)
Sky 2002 (Reach)
MyCube (Kingdom)
NHN Hangame (Nal_rA)
So1 (Anytime)

MSL 2 Protoss

Stout (Nal_rA)
GomTV (Bisu)

Total 9


OSL 3 Zerg

Gillette + Ever 2 (July)
ShinHan 3 (Savior)

MSL 5 Zerg

YRTGK (Gorush)
Uzoo + Pringles + Pringles 2 (Savior)
Cyon (Chojja)

KT KTF Premiere League 1 Zerg
No2 (July)

Total 9

OSL is the major league. Protoss has been much more successful in OSL than zerg.

There is a difference between MSL and OSL. KT KTF Premiere does not even belong up there.

Yea, in KOREA.

Here, we consider MSL and OSL the same. Besides the difference in Prize money, really what's so different about them? The qualification round and players involved are no different. They're both just as hard as the other, and both include many good players (except a lot of recent SKT1 players, but they're all slumpin anyways).
SAY YES TO STIM KIDS!!! XD
spammerA
Profile Joined July 2006
China355 Posts
March 02 2007 22:09 GMT
#1060
Assorted DT cheese only works today, Savior will 3:0 Bisu in superfight 5, just tune in and watch.
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