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KivA
Profile Joined February 2012
United States38 Posts
July 23 2012 02:41 GMT
#161
Since everyone is arguing about whether if flash is bonjwa or not, I will write something. The word 'bonjwa' was created when sAviOr had won the OSL and became Royal Roader. And because of the force from sAviOr, people started calling him bonjwa along with boxer, iloveoov, and nada. Iloveoov used to be worst enemy from Zerg players during that time and nada had won most OSLs and MSLs. And boxer was just considered as legend and a royal roader, but he was still good. Now the reason why flash isn't called as bonjwa is that he wasn't a royal roader. I don't know why Koreans say that is the reason but they say it is the main thing. I know the iloveoov and nada wasn't royal roader too but somehow they were considered as bonjwa. But after few years the bonjwa was pretty meaning less. Because there were now new best players like Bisu, Stork, Jaedong, and Flash. And people started talking about whether to put Flash into bonjwa line or not. But other people said he has won other individual tournament than any other bonjwas. So people started saying flash is not a bonjwa. Flash is God. So bonjwa became pretty much just a legend now. So in conclusion, flash is not bonjwa. Flash is considred as God. ( not sure now flash playing like god though from both BW and SC2). PS: Jaedong is not considered as bonjwa either.
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
July 23 2012 02:42 GMT
#162
^meh rather have Bisu as Bonjwa tho.
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KivA
Profile Joined February 2012
United States38 Posts
July 23 2012 02:48 GMT
#163
Also in Korean society neither of these players( Bisu, stork, Jaedong, flash) are considered as bonjwa. I don't know who edited bonjwa thread that flash is also bonjwa but no one considers him as bonjwa in Korea. Flash is just considered as a God.
Sgany
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United Kingdom790 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-23 02:53:23
July 23 2012 02:50 GMT
#164
On July 23 2012 11:41 KivA wrote:
Since everyone is arguing about whether if flash is bonjwa or not, I will write something. The word 'bonjwa' was created when sAviOr had won the OSL and became Royal Roader. And because of the force from sAviOr, people started calling him bonjwa along with boxer, iloveoov, and nada. Iloveoov used to be worst enemy from Zerg players during that time and nada had won most OSLs and MSLs. And boxer was just considered as legend and a royal roader, but he was still good. Now the reason why flash isn't called as bonjwa is that he wasn't a royal roader. I don't know why Koreans say that is the reason but they say it is the main thing. I know the iloveoov and nada wasn't royal roader too but somehow they were considered as bonjwa. But after few years the bonjwa was pretty meaning less. Because there were now new best players like Bisu, Stork, Jaedong, and Flash. And people started talking about whether to put Flash into bonjwa line or not. But other people said he has won other individual tournament than any other bonjwas. So people started saying flash is not a bonjwa. Flash is God. So bonjwa became pretty much just a legend now. So in conclusion, flash is not bonjwa. Flash is considred as God. ( not sure now flash playing like god though from both BW and SC2). PS: Jaedong is not considered as bonjwa either.


Both NaDa (OSL) and Oov (MSL) were royal roaders.

On July 23 2012 11:48 KivA wrote:
Also in Korean society neither of these players( Bisu, stork, Jaedong, flash) are considered as bonjwa. I don't know who edited bonjwa thread that flash is also bonjwa but no one considers him as bonjwa in Korea. Flash is just considered as a God.


No idea why is considered a "God" he had a very good year when everyone else was playing badly, and after the others came out of their slumps he has not won a thing.
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Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
July 23 2012 02:52 GMT
#165
On July 23 2012 11:50 Sgany wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2012 11:41 KivA wrote:
Since everyone is arguing about whether if flash is bonjwa or not, I will write something. The word 'bonjwa' was created when sAviOr had won the OSL and became Royal Roader. And because of the force from sAviOr, people started calling him bonjwa along with boxer, iloveoov, and nada. Iloveoov used to be worst enemy from Zerg players during that time and nada had won most OSLs and MSLs. And boxer was just considered as legend and a royal roader, but he was still good. Now the reason why flash isn't called as bonjwa is that he wasn't a royal roader. I don't know why Koreans say that is the reason but they say it is the main thing. I know the iloveoov and nada wasn't royal roader too but somehow they were considered as bonjwa. But after few years the bonjwa was pretty meaning less. Because there were now new best players like Bisu, Stork, Jaedong, and Flash. And people started talking about whether to put Flash into bonjwa line or not. But other people said he has won other individual tournament than any other bonjwas. So people started saying flash is not a bonjwa. Flash is God. So bonjwa became pretty much just a legend now. So in conclusion, flash is not bonjwa. Flash is considred as God. ( not sure now flash playing like god though from both BW and SC2). PS: Jaedong is not considered as bonjwa either.


Both NaDa (OSL) and Oov (MSL) were royal roaders.


Booom!
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KivA
Profile Joined February 2012
United States38 Posts
July 23 2012 02:57 GMT
#166
Well did not know that but now that proves why flash is not a bonjwa!! All the bonjwas were royal roaders. Flash is not a royal roader. Sorry for the wrong data and thanks for correcting it.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
July 23 2012 03:35 GMT
#167
bonjwa is a self referential royal We.
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KivA
Profile Joined February 2012
United States38 Posts
July 23 2012 03:37 GMT
#168
?
rift
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
1819 Posts
July 23 2012 03:40 GMT
#169
Call it what you will, Flash has been more dominant than any other player by a wide margin. He's been the best player for over two years.
Obelisco
Profile Joined January 2011
Peru1962 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-23 04:23:23
July 23 2012 03:48 GMT
#170
I think Flash is a bonjwa. Anyways, there was an interview after his Korean Air OSL 2 win where it said he was labeled as Bonjwa in Korea. here it is: interview
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
July 23 2012 03:50 GMT
#171
On July 23 2012 12:40 rift wrote:
Call it what you will, Flash has been more dominant than any other player by a wide margin. He's been the best player for over two years.


I would say that Fantasy > Flash in the past 1.5 years.

And Jaedong > Flash up to NATE MSL.


So NATE MSL @ 2010 to the November of that year was Flash's reign.


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Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-23 04:05:46
July 23 2012 03:58 GMT
#172
On July 23 2012 12:50 Xiphos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2012 12:40 rift wrote:
Call it what you will, Flash has been more dominant than any other player by a wide margin. He's been the best player for over two years.


I would say that Fantasy > Flash in the past 1.5 years.

And Jaedong > Flash up to NATE MSL.


So NATE MSL @ 2010 to the November of that year was Flash's reign.



Huh? Flash wiped the floor with jaedong in the EVER OSL @ 2009, kicked Calm's ass, and then movie.

Besides, No one has ever made 3 consecutive dual finals, never mind winning 4 of titles, then flying to LA, saving Kal's life, and winning wcg, then coming back and winning another MSL, and the PL for his team, on top of having nerve damage and subsequent surgery, then a 15W streak in the PL.

I'd say his reign ended after dear beat him.
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Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
July 23 2012 04:02 GMT
#173
Yeah, I'm pretty sure no one else did anything quite so specific as that.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
July 23 2012 04:05 GMT
#174
You get the gyst. I bolded the key things for your pleasure.
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rift
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
1819 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-23 04:13:45
July 23 2012 04:09 GMT
#175
Saving Kal's life cemented his bonjwa status, according to Korean rules.
Crimson)S(hadow
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Philippines1017 Posts
July 23 2012 04:24 GMT
#176
LOL i can't believe you remember about flash saving kal's life
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rauk
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States2228 Posts
July 23 2012 04:29 GMT
#177
i'm pretty sure being God is better than being a bonjwa anyways
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10570 Posts
July 23 2012 05:45 GMT
#178
On July 23 2012 12:58 Release wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2012 12:50 Xiphos wrote:
On July 23 2012 12:40 rift wrote:
Call it what you will, Flash has been more dominant than any other player by a wide margin. He's been the best player for over two years.


I would say that Fantasy > Flash in the past 1.5 years.

And Jaedong > Flash up to NATE MSL.


So NATE MSL @ 2010 to the November of that year was Flash's reign.



Huh? Flash wiped the floor with jaedong in the EVER OSL @ 2009, kicked Calm's ass, and then movie.

Besides, No one has ever made 3 consecutive dual finals, never mind winning 4 of titles, then flying to LA, saving Kal's life, and winning wcg, then coming back and winning another MSL, and the PL for his team, on top of having nerve damage and subsequent surgery, then a 15W streak in the PL.

I'd say his reign ended after dear beat him.

I remember this xD made me laugh so hard.

FlaSh is GOD. enough about this "bonjwa" word. God is above everything.
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Nikon
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bulgaria5710 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-23 07:04:45
July 23 2012 07:02 GMT
#179
On July 20 2012 11:13 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 08:00 SlowBullets wrote:
If they seriously don't reset osl wins when OS2L starts, the league becomes more of a joke rofl



wait they arent? disgusting


Wow, seeing someone winning a platinum or diamond mouse in that manner would be quite... what's the word I'm looking for here? Disconcerting I guess. It's going to really devalue anything anyone has achieved up untill now.
oGoZenob
Profile Joined December 2011
France1503 Posts
July 23 2012 14:24 GMT
#180
On July 23 2012 13:24 Crimson)S(hadow wrote:
LOL i can't believe you remember about flash saving kal's life

well I don't ^^ What is the story ?
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