EPTWell said!
OSL Semifinal #2 - Page 3
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Acejei
Austria18 Posts
Well said! | ||
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PaleMan
Russian Federation1953 Posts
Will I find (defeated) Oov there? Maybe NaDa? Maybe Xellos? [QUOTE]On February 16 2007 00:37 Ace wrote: Nada is definitely top level TvT, but Iris is on another level[QUOTE] Yes, you hit it right, Iris is level BELOW. | ||
FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
iris only really played lower tier terrans in 2006 because he repeatedly got sent to minor league casy or nada would be favoured in best of five against him without a doubt, iris is good at timing attacks and both casy and nada are too good at reading the opponent to really be put too far behind, nada moreso than casy. Casy's overall TvT management is just better. This is where i recommend watching the players and their games instead of pulling up numbers and only looking at that. Nada only has ONE more loss than Iris anyway, and Nada's average opponent is stronger than Iris' | ||
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PaleMan
Russian Federation1953 Posts
On February 16 2007 00:43 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: iris is unquestionably #3, and all three of them are a cut above the rest iris only really played lower tier terrans in 2006 because he repeatedly got sent to minor league casy or nada would be favoured in best of five against him without a doubt, iris is good at timing attacks and both casy and nada are too good at reading the opponent to really be put too far behind, nada moreso than casy. Casy's overall TvT management is just better. This is where i recommend watching the players and their games instead of pulling up numbers and only looking at that. Nada only has ONE more loss than Iris anyway, and Nada's average opponent is stronger than Iris' good post Steve you said what I tried to say but my english is not good enough | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
Ace, give me a list of T players Iris defeated in 2006 (that 20-6 record) Will I find (defeated) Oov there? Maybe NaDa? Maybe Xellos? [QUOTE]On February 16 2007 00:37 Ace wrote: Nada is definitely top level TvT, but Iris is on another level[QUOTE] Yes, you hit it right, Iris is level BELOW. [/QUOTE] I didnt bring up his record, but where can I find it? @FS: I think the fact that Iris keeps beating people TvT soundly shows that he IS at a very high level. His TvT is definitely just not timing attacks, I think he just has a really good understanding of positioning in this matchup a long with game sense. | ||
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
and yeah he beats people well but again they're lower-grade competition in most cases. you'll find that iris' 6 losses are all against casy/nada/oov, and his wins contain very little with those players involved. Whereas Casy and Nada's TvT contain lots of games against the top players, except for Iris | ||
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Acejei
Austria18 Posts
On February 16 2007 00:43 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: iris is unquestionably #3, and all three of them are a cut above the rest iris only really played lower tier terrans in 2006 because he repeatedly got sent to minor league casy or nada would be favoured in best of five against him without a doubt, iris is good at timing attacks and both casy and nada are too good at reading the opponent to really be put too far behind, nada moreso than casy. Casy's overall TvT management is just better. This is where i recommend watching the players and their games instead of pulling up numbers and only looking at that. Nada only has ONE more loss than Iris anyway, and Nada's average opponent is stronger than Iris' Don't understand why you think Nada or Casy is better than Iris. See a winning rate. It tells everything and you are just on the player who you like. | ||
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
why is this difficult for you | ||
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FirstProbe
1206 Posts
cos savior is going to win and then nada will crush him | ||
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exihea
United States413 Posts
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PaleMan
Russian Federation1953 Posts
On February 16 2007 00:50 Acejei wrote: Don't understand why you think Nada or Casy is better than Iris. See a winning rate. It tells everything and you are just on the player who you like. oh man.......... So u basically telling us that when you and I will play 100 TvTs games vs Iris and lose all of them he will have 200-0 100% record In the same time NaDa will play 100 games vs Casy and 100 games vs iloveoov He will win approximately 110 games out of 200 So he will have 110-90 55% record It will look like NaDa is newb and Iris is a suprehero But in fact it's not real | ||
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Beamo
France1279 Posts
Testie pretty much summed it up at this level any player can fuck any other player on any day. If they meet in a Bo5 it can go either way these 2 players are top TvT material. | ||
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OctoPuSs
Canada5279 Posts
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
We all have bias no matter how much we deny it, I can look at Nada and Iris indifferently but I can't say I'm qualified to judge Casy completely accurately | ||
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Acejei
Austria18 Posts
On February 16 2007 00:57 PaleMan wrote: oh man.......... So u basically telling us that when you and I will play 100 TvTs games vs Iris and lose all of them he will have 200-0 100% record In the same time NaDa will play 100 games vs Casy and 100 games vs iloveoov He will win approximately 110 games out of 200 So he will have 110-90 55% record It will look like NaDa is newb and Iris is a suprehero But in fact it's not real I've got a lot to say but I'll let it go. I agree three of them are extreamly good at T vs T. Let us forcus on today. | ||
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PaleMan
Russian Federation1953 Posts
On February 16 2007 00:58 OctoPuSs wrote: Can't you just all agree that they would all have an equal shot at winning if they were to face eachother? Bringing the "Iris' percentage is better, so he would destroy NaDa" is total bullshit. Iris was 20-6, NaDa 20-7. The gap isn't big enough to bitch about it. I think NaDa and Iris are both better than Casy in terms of TvT. (I know I'll get flamed for this, but it's true.) No, I give NaDa 70%-30% vs Iris | ||
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
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OctoPuSs
Canada5279 Posts
Then you can safely walk on the street with a "I am a dumbass" sign up in the air without being called a liar. | ||
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fLyiNgDroNe
Belgium4012 Posts
Oh, and btw Iris is not gonna win. | ||
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Gandalf
Pakistan1905 Posts
I never thought we'd see this sort of dominance by a player in current times. I thought starcraft had evolved so much and become so competitive now that it really wasnt possible. (PS Boxer is still the greatest SC player ever) | ||
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