EPTBut I don't think voting for NaDa TvZ on Arkanoid is that risky (I hope ^_^
It's also about me hating Yarnc a lot too :p I hope my curses will be effective, my nuts are on the table ^_^;
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ChApFoU
France2982 Posts
But I don't think voting for NaDa TvZ on Arkanoid is that risky (I hope ^_^ It's also about me hating Yarnc a lot too :p I hope my curses will be effective, my nuts are on the table ^_^; | ||
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AyOnY
Pitcairn1026 Posts
On February 07 2007 00:24 tfeign wrote: It's funny how zergman wins a couple of zvt's and is now considered a big favorite over Iris Or Iris losing a couple tvz's and now considered horrible tvz. It's just silly. 2 games mean nothing. Any pro can win or lose 2 games to any other pro any day. Nobody should ever judged based on 2 games. The fact is, over the span of their last 30 games, Iris is exactly 50% tvz - doesn't fit the definition of horrible tvz by any means. And you don't consistently hold top 10 Kespa for a year by having horrible tvz especially in a periods where every league is swarmed with zergs. Zergman is 36% zvt in his last 30. Who's the clear favorite, it's quite simple. Chojja sucks all Mu's now  | ||
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tfeign
United States2980 Posts
On February 07 2007 00:35 SiZ.FaNtAsY wrote: I agree you on this, however..... Sometimes just 2 games do count, even one game counts to bring a player back from the dead, and let them ride the momentum to win more games. It may look like 2 loss is nothing, but that may affect the player's morale and momentum, so even though overall result is important, I think two or even one game is important too. Again this may be a bad example since he didn't make it to round of 8 of this thread, Julyzerg after a win vs Xellos in an imporant match up in the proleagus finals helped him get a momentum and dominate Oov, the MSL survivor, the wildcards for OSL, and he showed really good performance agaisnt Casy too, almost coming for a comeback in game 1(although all these opponents besides Casy I think are slumping or sucky). Julyzerg has comeback to life in my opinion ^^. So Iris who lost to Gorush, who has terrible builds lately, and Zergman who beat Hwasin TvZ gosu, I think this will give Zergman confidence and the momentum to beat Iris. So although what you are saying is totally right about the larger picture, you should see the smaller ones too, like the 2 silly games, because soon they will become the larger picture ^^. Sorry for making this so fucking long. You're just randomnly making guesses with little basis for evidence. Winning a game may give a confidence boost, but it does not increase his chances of winning in the next game. You cited 1 example - I'm sorry but 1 example is nowhere near enough to form such a conclusion. According to you, every time Zergman wins a game, he is more likely to win his next game as well. I don't look at 1 or 2 games as evidence. I look at his last 30 zvt games, which look something like this (Most recent first): WWWLWLLLLWLLLLLWLLWWLWLWLLLWLLL According to Zergman's last 30 game history, whenever Zergman wins a game, his chances of winning the next game is 30%. Him winning a game does not increase his chances in winning the next game in any way. As a matter of fact, immediately following a win, he is much more likely to lose the next game than to win it. | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
hmm, rather, any meaningful statistics imply some metaphysical winning force or ability. | ||
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SiZ.FaNtAsY
Korea (South)1497 Posts
On February 07 2007 00:48 tfeign wrote: You're just randomnly making guesses with little basis for evidence. Winning a game may give a confidence boost, but it does not increase his chances of winning in the next game. You cited 1 example - I'm sorry but 1 example is nowhere near enough to form such a conclusion. According to you, every time Zergman wins a game, he is more likely to win his next game as well. I don't look at 1 or 2 games as evidence. I look at his last 30 zvt games, which look something like this (Most recent first): WWWLWLLLLWLLLLLWLLWWLWLWLLLWLLL According to Zergman's last 30 game history, whenever Zergman wins a game, his chances of winning the next game is 30%. Him winning a game does not increase his chances in winning the next game in any way. As a matter of fact, immediately following a win, he is much more likely to lose the next game than to win it. I don't think I come close to your knowledge of the league or the statistics of individual players. I think you look too much in statistics ^^ I think you look too little in morale and momentum. Although the statistics play a vital role in the match-ups outcome, the momentum a player has will sometimes break away from the statistics ^^. I cannot argue well with you since your way more informed about the leagues so all we can do is wait for the result between Iris and Zergman ^^ | ||
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Orome
Switzerland11984 Posts
Zergman is the favourite for this series, but today's outcome is very uncertain. | ||
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Elsi
United Kingdom8173 Posts
sooo nice rine micro haha | ||
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spetial
United States688 Posts
Yellow[arnc] < nada Savior > Much Zergman > Iris | ||
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tfeign
United States2980 Posts
On February 07 2007 01:05 Orome wrote: The thing you're missing Tfeign is that Mana's new hobby is to rag on Iris' TvZ, and, true or not, everyone's blindly jumping on the bandwagon. :p Zergman is the favourite for this series, but today's outcome is very uncertain. I've come to realize for a while now that Mana likes to rag on a lot of things that are just completely nonsense, which stems from just watching 1-2 games and making a definite conclusion out of it. I remember his rag on Midas's tvz and how Midas has one of the worst tvz in progaming, and most of the forum jumped the bandwagon as well. I was one of the few defending Midas's tvz. I think since then Midas has proven that his tvz is nowhere near as bad as anyone then thought. It sounds real familiar actually. At that time Midas lost 1 game to Zergman, which was what caused Mana to rag that Midas's tvz was complete shit. I didn't follow the bandwagon and said that 1 game really did not mean anything, and that if we look at Midas's overall statistics in tvz that his tvz was actually quite good. Very similar here. Iris lost a couple of tvz's. Now people ragging on Iris and his horrible tvz without looking at the big picture. According to the big picture, although Iris's tvz is not as strong as Midas's, it's definitely not as bad as what people claim he is. No one should look at 1-2 games and form such a conclusion. You need to look at the overall picture. | ||
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yubee
United States3826 Posts
it's that 80's song friday i'm in love by the cure wonderful my life is complete! | ||
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tfeign
United States2980 Posts
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NarutO
Germany18839 Posts
My Predictions Casy>FBH NaDa > YarnC Much > Savior (I believe...Much impressed me alot with different strategies... perhaps he got a secret strategy savior does NOT know )Iris > ZergMan (No Risk - No Fun!) Start!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GOGOGO! | ||
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Elsi
United Kingdom8173 Posts
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puLs.ReADy
Bulgaria1301 Posts
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ContrailNZ
New Zealand306 Posts
"I dont feel i really lost the belt" from Grubby :D | ||
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yubee
United States3826 Posts
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NarutO
Germany18839 Posts
FBH teal @ 6 Map ~ Reverse Temple | ||
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NovaTheFeared
United States7224 Posts
Casy>FBH Nada>Yarnc Savior>Much Zergman>Iris Edit: fixed prediction Nada > Yarnc thought this was Arkanoid game it was Longinus game. I voted Nada obviously. | ||
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Elsi
United Kingdom8173 Posts
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NarutO
Germany18839 Posts
FBH SBR FBH scouts casy now... i think fbh will win... stupid 14 cc | ||
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