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KizZBG
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
u gotta skate8152 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-02-07 05:04:19
February 07 2007 04:54 GMT
#521
3/4. Casy let me down.

But I hope FBH wins the next game.
eSTRO for life | #2 Sea.Really fan! | #1 GosI[Flying] fan! | Clide - best SC2 terran!
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
February 07 2007 12:28 GMT
#522
On February 07 2007 01:43 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2007 00:48 tfeign wrote:
On February 07 2007 00:35 SiZ.FaNtAsY wrote:
On February 07 2007 00:24 tfeign wrote:
It's funny how zergman wins a couple of zvt's and is now considered a big favorite over Iris

Or Iris losing a couple tvz's and now considered horrible tvz.

It's just silly. 2 games mean nothing. Any pro can win or lose 2 games to any other pro any day. Nobody should ever judged based on 2 games. The fact is, over the span of their last 30 tvz games, Iris is exactly 50% tvz - doesn't fit the definition of horrible tvz by any means. And you don't hold top 10 Kespa for a year by having a horrible tvz especially in a periods where every league is swarmed with zergs. Zergman is 36% zvt. Who's the clear favorite, it's quite simple.


I agree you on this, however.....
Sometimes just 2 games do count, even one game counts to bring a player back from the dead, and let them ride the momentum to win more games. It may look like 2 loss is nothing, but that may affect the player's morale and momentum, so even though overall result is important, I think two or even one game is important too.
Again this may be a bad example since he didn't make it to round of 8 of this thread, Julyzerg after a win vs Xellos in an imporant match up in the proleagus finals helped him get a momentum and dominate Oov, the MSL survivor, the wildcards for OSL, and he showed really good performance agaisnt Casy too, almost coming for a comeback in game 1(although all these opponents besides Casy I think are slumping or sucky). Julyzerg has comeback to life in my opinion ^^.
So Iris who lost to Gorush, who has terrible builds lately, and Zergman who beat Hwasin TvZ gosu, I think this will give Zergman confidence and the momentum to beat Iris. So although what you are saying is totally right about the larger picture, you should see the smaller ones too, like the 2 silly games, because soon they will become the larger picture ^^. Sorry for making this so fucking long.


You're just randomnly making guesses with little basis for evidence. Winning a game may give a confidence boost, but it does not increase his chances of winning in the next game. You cited 1 example - I'm sorry but 1 example is nowhere near enough to form such a conclusion.

According to you, every time Zergman wins a game, he is more likely to win his next game as well.

I don't look at 1 or 2 games as evidence. I look at his last 30 zvt games, which look something like this (Most recent first):

WWWLWLLLLWLLLLLWLLWWLWLWLLLWLLL

According to Zergman's last 30 game history, whenever Zergman wins a game, his chances of winning the next game is 30%.

Him winning a game does not increase his chances in winning the next game in any way. As a matter of fact, immediately following a win, he is much more likely to lose the next game than to win it.


once again you are ignoring something that is crucially relevant to the match: IRIS SUCKS AT TVZ

fantasy's post wasnt really informed either but you're clueless if you think zergman's chances in this series aren't good

I'm not telling you that iris' tvz is bad according to results, or that zergman's chances are good because he won a few games. I'm telling you that based on my extensive knowledge of the players and zvt itself, that iris is going to get buttfucked because zergman is better, and I guarantee I am a better source of information than most you're going to talk to

This sorta makes me laugh cause I always remember you being pretty bad at all match ups
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
February 07 2007 12:35 GMT
#523
On February 07 2007 02:18 Red_Dragon wrote:
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On February 07 2007 02:16 Resonate wrote:
Nada shows that total newb Justin how to defend vs 9-pool


It was 5 pool, if you are referring to his game vs Savior

The first game he did extensive damage with a 9 pool...kk
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
February 07 2007 12:40 GMT
#524
On February 07 2007 02:42 nova_442 wrote:
Nada's micro this game was fucking bad. I play pub gamers on west with better than this O_O

Look at his macro this game; then ask why his micro was so bad...then shh Sorry to sound like a dick but I hate hearing this. Every time a terran gosu focuses on macro play style it's always the same thing.
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
February 07 2007 13:30 GMT
#525
I think Nada had so much money and units by the end of that game he just didn't really care.
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
February 07 2007 14:01 GMT
#526
On February 07 2007 04:54 Locke. wrote:
the ro8 is bo3?? if not is casy out? why it's so bloody complicated

It's not=/ (complicated that is) And it is bo3
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
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