EPTMind will have another chance there. He's a very good Terran player.
[SSL] SF: Mind vs Bisu - Page 20
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
Mind will have another chance there. He's a very good Terran player. | ||
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[[Starlight]]
United States1578 Posts
On August 16 2015 01:55 LegalLord wrote: Bisu is leaving after this event. I'd rather see him in the finals one more time. Mind will have another chance there. He's a very good Terran player. I guess I can get behind the 'last hurrah' angle. | ||
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Freakling
Germany1529 Posts
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darktreb
United States3016 Posts
On August 16 2015 07:12 Freakling wrote: Mind should have just building blocked his main choke and enjoyed the economic head start... That's not really an option in this situation. A Probe can keep you from blocking your choke with a Pylon. | ||
FlaShFTW
United States10236 Posts
On August 16 2015 15:13 darktreb wrote: That's not really an option in this situation. A Probe can keep you from blocking your choke with a Pylon. Yes, but he means when mind immediately saw the forward gate. he could have sent an scv to build a rax to block it. | ||
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Miragee
8594 Posts
On August 16 2015 15:24 FlaShFTW wrote: Yes, but he means when mind immediately saw the forward gate. he could have sent an scv to build a rax to block it. The Probe was in Mind's base when Mind scouted the gate and pulled the scvs. | ||
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Freakling
Germany1529 Posts
And you gotta build a depot or depot+rax wall on that position on HBR, just a rax would not have been zeal tight. | ||
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Miragee
8594 Posts
On August 16 2015 17:38 Freakling wrote: he had enough time to harass the probe away; or try and just fake pull SCVs. And you gotta build a depot or depot+rax wall on that position on HBR, just a rax would not have been zeal tight. Bisu is known for good probe micro, you know... For the timing: When the zealot reached the base Mind had just placed the rax. Anyways, I believe you can block the choke with just one depot placed in the middle. But that would end up in another disadvantage for Mind. | ||
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aedeph
104 Posts
On August 16 2015 17:52 Miragee wrote: Bisu is known for good probe micro, you know... For the timing: When the zealot reached the base Mind had just placed the rax. Anyways, I believe you can block the choke with just one depot placed in the middle. But that would end up in another disadvantage for Mind. You know, you can just play the game and see, it's not the question of personal beliefs and faith, it's easily verified statement. No, one supply depot cannot block zealots on HBR, This is terran wall on main: ![[image loading]](http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/images/0/07/TwHeartbreakRidge4.png) EDIT: actually, I am incorrect. Here's blocking depot: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/udiHPJ2.png) | ||
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Freakling
Germany1529 Posts
On August 16 2015 18:32 aedeph wrote: You know, you can just play the game and see, it's not the question of personal beliefs and faith, it's easily verified statement. No, one supply depot cannot block zealots on HBR, This is terran wall on main: What version of HBR is that? It's none that I have, and it is not the one Mind/Bisu played on either. Note how the cliff edge at the choke looks different in this screenshot from the game: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/SYsF6nS.jpg) In this version, one depot is tight (this other cliff edge has an unpassable edge which is one subtile wider than the other one). Also, mind would have had a faster rax with the six SCVs he pulled mining instead. | ||
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parkufarku
882 Posts
On August 16 2015 01:30 [[Starlight]] wrote: What if you don't hate Bisu, but just like Mind?  I respect Bisu, but I'd rather have seen a Mind vs Hero finals, frankly, than a re-hash of the SSL9 finals. Not to say Bisu vs Hero won't be good too... it's just that we've seen it before. (of course, we could still get Bisu vs Free in a comparatively dull PvP finals, too) Salty Terran detected. Mmm.. lemme guess, TvT is the most exciting mirror MU, am i rite? | ||
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JieXian
Malaysia4677 Posts
On August 16 2015 01:30 [[Starlight]] wrote: What if you don't hate Bisu, but just like Mind? I respect Bisu, but I'd rather have seen a Mind vs Hero finals, frankly, than a re-hash of the SSL9 finals. Not to say Bisu vs Hero won't be good too... it's just that we've seen it before. (of course, we could still get Bisu vs Free in a comparatively dull PvP finals, too) Oh ...Bisu vs hero too mainstream for you? In that case I also have this to say to you, hipster and Mind lover :+ Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/HB20RWQ.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/Occ1L6E.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://imgnews.naver.com/image/dailyesports/2011/07/21/20110721_5c2c729516353861c7ea885288733082.jpg) BuBuBu~ e-High five! | ||
Elyvilon
United States13143 Posts
On August 17 2015 00:27 parkufarku wrote: Salty Terran detected. Mmm.. lemme guess, TvT is the most exciting mirror MU, am i rite? Um, yes? How is it close? | ||
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[[Starlight]]
United States1578 Posts
On August 17 2015 01:12 JieXian wrote: Oh ...Bisu vs hero too mainstream for you? In that case I also have this to say to you, hipster and Mind lover LOL. I think the Bisu-haters out there have done traumatized you. Pro tip: You can like Mind while not hating Bisu. I do. Bisu isn't my favorite active player, but he's in my Top 5. Does this bother you for some reason? If so, why? | ||
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[[Starlight]]
United States1578 Posts
On August 17 2015 00:27 parkufarku wrote: Salty Terran detected. Mmm.. lemme guess, TvT is the most exciting mirror MU, am i rite? Nope. ZvZ probably is. And you don't have to be a T or salty to think Mind vs Hero would've been awesome. Best TvZ in the world vs the best ZvT. Maybe next time. | ||
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maybenexttime
Poland5656 Posts
On August 17 2015 08:02 [[Starlight]] wrote: Nope. ZvZ probably is. And you don't have to be a T or salty to think Mind vs Hero would've been awesome. Best TvZ in the world vs the best ZvT. Maybe next time. Indeed. | ||
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parkufarku
882 Posts
On August 17 2015 08:02 [[Starlight]] wrote: Nope. ZvZ probably is. And you don't have to be a T or salty to think Mind vs Hero would've been awesome. Best TvZ in the world vs the best ZvT. Maybe next time. So you're not completely sure which one is the most subjectively exciting to you? Lol. You're a terrible liar. | ||
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[[Starlight]]
United States1578 Posts
On August 17 2015 12:00 parkufarku wrote: So you're not completely sure which one is the most subjectively exciting to you? Lol. You're a terrible liar. You sound upset. Mint? Not sure why you're so bent outta shape, but, gawrsh, if I absolutely had to rank 'em: 1) ZvZ 2) TvT (but it's close). 3) PvP (and it's a distant third). There you have it. Now, do you wanna hold your breath 'til you're blue in the face and accuse me of 'lying' again, even though I can't think of any reason why I'd care enough to do so? Lolz. Sigh. Some people. | ||
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[[Starlight]]
United States1578 Posts
Well-played, sir. | ||
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[[Starlight]]
United States1578 Posts
On August 15 2015 00:29 Greg_J wrote: Great to see so much discussion. It's a sure sign thats things are exciting and people care about Broodwar once more. +1. Doesn't hurt that SSL11's been really interesting so far. | ||
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