On August 11 2015 01:45 johanes wrote: Pray to god. Everything is going to be ok.
If Mondragon decides to play we prolly have to ban him. He is too good (;;
sure from what i saw in the oldschool tournaments he has a long way to go,maybe in 2017 !
Well he was able to defeat best korean pros during his time. Can you do that?
some names i won in fish server nto`smle mong iris pure lazy shuttle olympus(this one many times) larva killer hero zelot britney and many others i forgot, im not some shit talker hater or something,im someone that dl packs of mondragon replays and studied him to get better,my post was as a joke,but to be honest from what i saw in the last tournament he played he need lot of work,i didnt mean to offend ur feelings.
Sharp getting rekt by eon even after korean style wraithu opening. Hwasin did all he could, remember he didn't play since match fixing thing, started laddering this year.
I'm late to the party but previous thread locked. Vanatir knocked out Trutacz with lame cheese to just forfeit his 3rd place spot? That's pure douchbaggery...
On August 11 2015 12:02 outscar wrote: And also about lags: You need to read this thread http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/bw-strategy/59178-on-latencies-and-microing-in-advance Is there still a way to play BW through VPN which means you login via LAN not battle.net, and LAN latency is zero. Happy mutas. Someone from tech support should give it a try (Hamachi? Garena?).
There is Direct IP connection option in mca launcher, is there a way to properly use it and will it be 0 latency?
Also iCCup launcher (mca64 too) got option "Force LAN latency" if it's working maybe both players need to connect via it by checking on that option.
Wow I cannot believe I didn't think of Hamachi when me and Dienmax just flipped a coin to determine the winner, maybe we could have played on Hamachi.
On August 11 2015 01:45 johanes wrote: Pray to god. Everything is going to be ok.
If Mondragon decides to play we prolly have to ban him. He is too good (;;
sure from what i saw in the oldschool tournaments he has a long way to go,maybe in 2017 !
Well he was able to defeat best korean pros during his time. Can you do that?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJwH80Vq3gE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNdQpO6hcd4 some names i won in fish server nto`smle mong iris pure lazy shuttle olympus(this one many times) larva killer hero zelot britney and many others i forgot, im not some shit talker hater or something,im someone that dl packs of mondragon replays and studied him to get better,my post was as a joke,but to be honest from what i saw in the last tournament he played he need lot of work,i didnt mean to offend ur feelings.
That is very impressive, but still shouldn't downplay Mondragon as he is a legend, and his name carries weight.
On August 11 2015 07:43 outscar wrote: I'm late to the party but previous thread locked. Vanatir knocked out Trutacz with lame cheese to just forfeit his 3rd place spot? That's pure douchbaggery...
Would you play more games in a tour where you get w.o. out cause ur opponent provides unplayable lag even with high latency after playing for many hours? I definitly not.
On August 11 2015 12:02 outscar wrote: And also about lags: You need to read this thread http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/bw-strategy/59178-on-latencies-and-microing-in-advance Is there still a way to play BW through VPN which means you login via LAN not battle.net, and LAN latency is zero? Happy mutas. Someone from tech support should give it a try (Hamachi? Garena?).
There is Direct IP connection option in mca launcher, is there a way to properly use it and will it be 0 latency?
Also iCCup launcher (mca64 too) got option "Force LAN latency" if it's working maybe both players need to connect via it by checking on that option.
On August 11 2015 12:02 outscar wrote: And also about lags: You need to read this thread http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/bw-strategy/59178-on-latencies-and-microing-in-advance Is there still a way to play BW through VPN which means you login via LAN not battle.net, and LAN latency is zero? Happy mutas. Someone from tech support should give it a try (Hamachi? Garena?).
There is Direct IP connection option in mca launcher, is there a way to properly use it and will it be 0 latency?
Also iCCup launcher (mca64 too) got option "Force LAN latency" if it's working maybe both players need to connect via it by checking on that option.
That thread is completely wrong.
About the hamachi thing i have no idea it might work
On August 11 2015 01:45 johanes wrote: Pray to god. Everything is going to be ok.
If Mondragon decides to play we prolly have to ban him. He is too good (;;
sure from what i saw in the oldschool tournaments he has a long way to go,maybe in 2017 !
Well he was able to defeat best korean pros during his time. Can you do that?
some names i won in fish server nto`smle mong iris pure lazy shuttle olympus(this one many times) larva killer hero zelot britney and many others i forgot, im not some shit talker hater or something,im someone that dl packs of mondragon replays and studied him to get better,my post was as a joke,but to be honest from what i saw in the last tournament he played he need lot of work,i didnt mean to offend ur feelings.
This brings up 1 question in me. If you won vs all those remarkable players (fair share of them considered the top korean pro gamers) then how come you can't get even close to win vs Scan? This is not a troll question, I am not trying to offend you I just can't explain it to myself.
On August 11 2015 01:45 johanes wrote: Pray to god. Everything is going to be ok.
If Mondragon decides to play we prolly have to ban him. He is too good (;;
sure from what i saw in the oldschool tournaments he has a long way to go,maybe in 2017 !
Well he was able to defeat best korean pros during his time. Can you do that?
some names i won in fish server nto`smle mong iris pure lazy shuttle olympus(this one many times) larva killer hero zelot britney and many others i forgot, im not some shit talker hater or something,im someone that dl packs of mondragon replays and studied him to get better,my post was as a joke,but to be honest from what i saw in the last tournament he played he need lot of work,i didnt mean to offend ur feelings.
This brings up 1 question in me. If you won vs all those remarkable players (fair share of them considered the top korean pro gamers) then how come you can't get even close to win vs Scan? This is not a troll question, I am not trying to offend you I just can't explain it to myself.
Just because you beat someone, doesn't mean you're better than them. No one can win every Starcraft game because the game has too much variance. I've beaten a ton of Korean Progamers including Starleague champions and players who were ranked #1 in the world at the time. That by no means suggests that I was a better player than them or would win in a best of match. It could be that I was on a good day and they were on an off, my build happened to counter theirs, they were trying out something which failed, or I just happened to play above my normal self and out-play them that game. Whatever the reason, I've beaten a ton of players who were clearly better than me. I have also lost to a ton of players who were clearly worst than me. This is true for every gamer.
^lol saying all that egotist nonsense and still whining about Scan :-)
of course i am a fucking chobo/numbasek but at least im honest and not exhibiting Dunning-Kruger syndrome like a few here who then scream about banning Scan by pretending to take the moral high ground saying hes Korean and whatnot. Even former legends like NaDa/July admit they are chobo compared to the current gen of players but still finds time to enjoy the game rather than stroking their ego.
for the record this game actually has much less variance than say, sc2 simply because people with higher skill levels can really distinguish themselves thanks to its higher skill ceiling. Beating people in a BO1 is also hugely different to beating someone in a BO5/BO7. Every (good) foreigner has a good chance to beat Scan in a BO1 but hardly ever in a BO5/BO7.
On August 12 2015 10:20 Probemicro wrote: ^lol saying all that egotist nonsense and still whining about Scan :-)
of course i am a fucking chobo/numbasek but at least im honest and not exhibiting Dunning-Kruger syndrome like a few here who then scream about banning Scan by pretending to take the moral high ground saying hes Korean and whatnot. Even former legends like NaDa/July admit they are chobo compared to the current gen of players but still finds time to enjoy the game rather than stroking their ego.
for the record this game actually has much less variance than say, sc2 simply because people with higher skill levels can really distinguish themselves thanks to its higher skill ceiling. Beating people in a BO1 is also hugely different to beating someone in a BO5/BO7. Every (good) foreigner has a good chance to beat Scan in a BO1 but hardly ever in a BO5/BO7.
You basically insulted him and then said the exact same thing as he did about beating a better player 1 time. Did you come into the thread angry?
On August 12 2015 10:20 Probemicro wrote: ^lol saying all that egotist nonsense and still whining about Scan :-)
of course i am a fucking chobo/numbasek but at least im honest and not exhibiting Dunning-Kruger syndrome like a few here who then scream about banning Scan by pretending to take the moral high ground saying hes Korean and whatnot. Even former legends like NaDa/July admit they are chobo compared to the current gen of players but still finds time to enjoy the game rather than stroking their ego.
for the record this game actually has much less variance than say, sc2 simply because people with higher skill levels can really distinguish themselves thanks to its higher skill ceiling. Beating people in a BO1 is also hugely different to beating someone in a BO5/BO7. Every (good) foreigner has a good chance to beat Scan in a BO1 but hardly ever in a BO5/BO7.
You basically insulted him and then said the exact same thing as he did about beating a better player 1 time. Did you come into the thread angry?
I never said anything about beating a better player one time, I already admit im chobo and I have nothing to prove. Not even a Scan fanboy, just finding it hilarious how people boast about beating better players than going on to whine about Scan. If you take my words as an insult why don't you prove me wrong by beating Scan in a proper BoX series? I would love to see that.
On August 12 2015 10:20 Probemicro wrote: ^lol saying all that egotist nonsense and still whining about Scan :-)
of course i am a fucking chobo/numbasek but at least im honest and not exhibiting Dunning-Kruger syndrome like a few here who then scream about banning Scan by pretending to take the moral high ground saying hes Korean and whatnot. Even former legends like NaDa/July admit they are chobo compared to the current gen of players but still finds time to enjoy the game rather than stroking their ego.
for the record this game actually has much less variance than say, sc2 simply because people with higher skill levels can really distinguish themselves thanks to its higher skill ceiling. Beating people in a BO1 is also hugely different to beating someone in a BO5/BO7. Every (good) foreigner has a good chance to beat Scan in a BO1 but hardly ever in a BO5/BO7.
You basically insulted him and then said the exact same thing as he did about beating a better player 1 time. Did you come into the thread angry?
I never said anything about beating a better player one time, I already admit im chobo and I have nothing to prove. Not even a Scan fanboy, just finding it hilarious how people boast about beating better players than going on to whine about Scan. If you take my words as an insult why don't you prove me wrong by beating Scan in a proper BoX series? I would love to see that.
... I think you missed the point that both G5 and eonzerg are saying that they've beaten players as good as Scan, but they can't beat them in a BoX... You're arguing the same side, they're saying they can't beat him or anyone of his caliber in a BoX and you're calling them egotistical idiots saying that they can't possibly beat him in a BoX.
On August 12 2015 10:20 Probemicro wrote: ^lol saying all that egotist nonsense and still whining about Scan :-)
of course i am a fucking chobo/numbasek but at least im honest and not exhibiting Dunning-Kruger syndrome like a few here who then scream about banning Scan by pretending to take the moral high ground saying hes Korean and whatnot. Even former legends like NaDa/July admit they are chobo compared to the current gen of players but still finds time to enjoy the game rather than stroking their ego.
for the record this game actually has much less variance than say, sc2 simply because people with higher skill levels can really distinguish themselves thanks to its higher skill ceiling. Beating people in a BO1 is also hugely different to beating someone in a BO5/BO7. Every (good) foreigner has a good chance to beat Scan in a BO1 but hardly ever in a BO5/BO7.
You basically insulted him and then said the exact same thing as he did about beating a better player 1 time. Did you come into the thread angry?
I never said anything about beating a better player one time, I already admit im chobo and I have nothing to prove. Not even a Scan fanboy, just finding it hilarious how people boast about beating better players than going on to whine about Scan. If you take my words as an insult why don't you prove me wrong by beating Scan in a proper BoX series? I would love to see that.
... I think you missed the point that both G5 and eonzerg are saying that they've beaten players as good as Scan, but they can't beat them in a BoX... You're arguing the same side, they're saying they can't beat him or anyone of his caliber in a BoX and you're calling them egotistical idiots saying that they can't possibly beat him in a BoX.
what part of "Beating people in a BO1 is also hugely different to beating someone in a BO5/BO7." do you not get? or do you really believe foreigners can beat them in a BO5/BO7 consistently? all those 20+ pages of Scan whine in the other thread are just for the lulz? LOL
On August 12 2015 10:20 Probemicro wrote: ^lol saying all that egotist nonsense and still whining about Scan :-)
of course i am a fucking chobo/numbasek but at least im honest and not exhibiting Dunning-Kruger syndrome like a few here who then scream about banning Scan by pretending to take the moral high ground saying hes Korean and whatnot. Even former legends like NaDa/July admit they are chobo compared to the current gen of players but still finds time to enjoy the game rather than stroking their ego.
for the record this game actually has much less variance than say, sc2 simply because people with higher skill levels can really distinguish themselves thanks to its higher skill ceiling. Beating people in a BO1 is also hugely different to beating someone in a BO5/BO7. Every (good) foreigner has a good chance to beat Scan in a BO1 but hardly ever in a BO5/BO7.
You basically insulted him and then said the exact same thing as he did about beating a better player 1 time. Did you come into the thread angry?
I never said anything about beating a better player one time, I already admit im chobo and I have nothing to prove. Not even a Scan fanboy, just finding it hilarious how people boast about beating better players than going on to whine about Scan. If you take my words as an insult why don't you prove me wrong by beating Scan in a proper BoX series? I would love to see that.
... I think you missed the point that both G5 and eonzerg are saying that they've beaten players as good as Scan, but they can't beat them in a BoX... You're arguing the same side, they're saying they can't beat him or anyone of his caliber in a BoX and you're calling them egotistical idiots saying that they can't possibly beat him in a BoX.
what part of "Beating people in a BO1 is also hugely different to beating someone in a BO5/BO7." do you not get? or do you really believe foreigners can beat them in a BO5/BO7 consistently? all those 20+ pages of Scan whine in the other thread are just for the lulz? LOL
On August 12 2015 10:20 Probemicro wrote: ^lol saying all that egotist nonsense and still whining about Scan :-)
of course i am a fucking chobo/numbasek but at least im honest and not exhibiting Dunning-Kruger syndrome like a few here who then scream about banning Scan by pretending to take the moral high ground saying hes Korean and whatnot. Even former legends like NaDa/July admit they are chobo compared to the current gen of players but still finds time to enjoy the game rather than stroking their ego.
for the record this game actually has much less variance than say, sc2 simply because people with higher skill levels can really distinguish themselves thanks to its higher skill ceiling. Beating people in a BO1 is also hugely different to beating someone in a BO5/BO7. Every (good) foreigner has a good chance to beat Scan in a BO1 but hardly ever in a BO5/BO7.
You basically insulted him and then said the exact same thing as he did about beating a better player 1 time. Did you come into the thread angry?
I never said anything about beating a better player one time, I already admit im chobo and I have nothing to prove. Not even a Scan fanboy, just finding it hilarious how people boast about beating better players than going on to whine about Scan. If you take my words as an insult why don't you prove me wrong by beating Scan in a proper BoX series? I would love to see that.
... I think you missed the point that both G5 and eonzerg are saying that they've beaten players as good as Scan, but they can't beat them in a BoX... You're arguing the same side, they're saying they can't beat him or anyone of his caliber in a BoX and you're calling them egotistical idiots saying that they can't possibly beat him in a BoX.
what part of "Beating people in a BO1 is also hugely different to beating someone in a BO5/BO7." do you not get? or do you really believe foreigners can beat them in a BO5/BO7 consistently? all those 20+ pages of Scan whine in the other thread are just for the lulz? LOL
I'm pretty sure you're trolling.
Scan has already won 3 TLCs in a row. Hows that for a troll statement? I have no offense to trutatcz, eonzerg and others that actually tried to play, its the people that makes empty boasts thats hilarious/disgusting.
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