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TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10873 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-12 02:55:24
August 12 2015 02:54 GMT
#41
Hey guys please don't derail this thread unless you have some really good hockey cards to start handing out to everyone for causing drama, lets keep it civil and have a nice time!

I for one am hype about losing again this week to be honest, last week I got to round 2 and then we had to flip a coin to see who continued on, needless to say the coin did not land on my side. Gl hf gg !
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
trutaCz
Profile Joined October 2011
Poland686 Posts
August 12 2015 04:55 GMT
#42
On August 12 2015 10:20 Probemicro wrote:
^lol saying all that egotist nonsense and still whining about Scan :-)

of course i am a fucking chobo/numbasek but at least im honest and not exhibiting Dunning-Kruger syndrome like a few here who then scream about banning Scan by pretending to take the moral high ground saying hes Korean and whatnot. Even former legends like NaDa/July admit they are chobo compared to the current gen of players but still finds time to enjoy the game rather than stroking their ego.

for the record this game actually has much less variance than say, sc2 simply because people with higher skill levels can really distinguish themselves thanks to its higher skill ceiling. Beating people in a BO1 is also hugely different to beating someone in a BO5/BO7. Every (good) foreigner has a good chance to beat Scan in a BO1 but hardly ever in a BO5/BO7.


Lets place a 100$bet, i bet that scan will not lose a single game playing terran in tlc4, you going in?
yo~.~
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium7177 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-12 05:54:57
August 12 2015 05:50 GMT
#43
On August 12 2015 10:20 Probemicro wrote:
^lol saying all that egotist nonsense and still whining about Scan :-)

of course i am a fucking chobo/numbasek but at least im honest and not exhibiting Dunning-Kruger syndrome like a few here who then scream about banning Scan by pretending to take the moral high ground saying hes Korean and whatnot. Even former legends like NaDa/July admit they are chobo compared to the current gen of players but still finds time to enjoy the game rather than stroking their ego.

for the record this game actually has much less variance than say, sc2 simply because people with higher skill levels can really distinguish themselves thanks to its higher skill ceiling. Beating people in a BO1 is also hugely different to beating someone in a BO5/BO7. Every (good) foreigner has a good chance to beat Scan in a BO1 but hardly ever in a BO5/BO7.


the only reason i made this list was cuz this question :
johanes Profile Blog PM Joined May 2008 Czech Republic2035 Posts
1 day ago #20
On August 11 2015 02:26 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
Show nested quote +

sure from what i saw in the oldschool tournaments he has a long way to go,maybe in 2017 !

Well he was able to defeat best korean pros during his time. Can you do that?

I myself im a mondragon fan,watched his vods watches his replays,it happens im actually someone that knows how bw lvl works,so the way this guy asked me question looked like a was just a hater trash talking king zerg Mondragon,now posting this list others like you and the other user took it to talk about why i cant win scan,i wasnt planing to explain this cuz anyone with some knowledge in bw skills will instantly know,but when you are ignorant in the topic this could happen,as you see i played all these players in the fish ladder,for most of them it was the first time we meet and i could show my timings and in others lot of luck helped,they are streaming in afreeca,talking with viewers sometimes they arent using their 100% focus to play,others they are using handicaps to the viewers,like for example piano played me without medics and still won lol.now if we were playing a money tournament im sure i couldnt take any games from progamers
where they will use their best to conquer the victory.
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
August 12 2015 06:07 GMT
#44
On August 12 2015 13:55 trutaCz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2015 10:20 Probemicro wrote:
^lol saying all that egotist nonsense and still whining about Scan :-)

of course i am a fucking chobo/numbasek but at least im honest and not exhibiting Dunning-Kruger syndrome like a few here who then scream about banning Scan by pretending to take the moral high ground saying hes Korean and whatnot. Even former legends like NaDa/July admit they are chobo compared to the current gen of players but still finds time to enjoy the game rather than stroking their ego.

for the record this game actually has much less variance than say, sc2 simply because people with higher skill levels can really distinguish themselves thanks to its higher skill ceiling. Beating people in a BO1 is also hugely different to beating someone in a BO5/BO7. Every (good) foreigner has a good chance to beat Scan in a BO1 but hardly ever in a BO5/BO7.


Lets place a 100$bet, i bet that scan will not lose a single game playing terran in tlc4, you going in?


means you are not playing tlc anymore?

On August 12 2015 14:50 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:

I myself im a mondragon fan,watched his vods watches his replays,it happens im actually someone that knows how bw lvl works,so the way this guy asked me question looked like a was just a hater trash talking king zerg Mondragon,now posting this list others like you and the other user took it to talk about why i cant win scan,i wasnt planing to explain this cuz anyone with some knowledge in bw skills will instantly know,but when you are ignorant in the topic this could happen,as you see i played all these players in the fish ladder,for most of them it was the first time we meet and i could show my timings and in others lot of luck helped,they are streaming in afreeca,talking with viewers sometimes they arent using their 100% focus to play,others they are using handicaps to the viewers,like for example piano played me without medics and still won lol.now if we were playing a money tournament im sure i couldnt take any games from progamers
where they will use their best to conquer the victory.


actually i typed wrongly, wasn't directing at you, just G5 only. maybe i shouldn't have replied considering his childish posts in the previous thread.
trutaCz
Profile Joined October 2011
Poland686 Posts
August 12 2015 06:25 GMT
#45
It means what it means....
yo~.~
sas.Sziky
Profile Joined October 2011
Hungary337 Posts
August 12 2015 10:10 GMT
#46
If Mondragon decides to play we prolly have to ban him. He is too good (;;
[/QUOTE]
sure from what i saw in the oldschool tournaments he has a long way to go,maybe in 2017 ![/QUOTE]
Well he was able to defeat best korean pros during his time. Can you do that?[/QUOTE]


some names i won in fish server
nto`smle
mong
iris
pure
lazy
shuttle
olympus(this one many times)
larva
killer
hero
zelot
britney
and many others i forgot,
im not some shit talker hater or something,im someone that dl packs of mondragon replays and studied him to get better,my post was as a joke,but to be honest from what i saw in the last tournament he played he need lot of work,i didnt mean to offend ur feelings.[/QUOTE]

actually not here '' progaming '' bw ur win ex pros. mondragon win real pros : ) and this list ,i didnt mean to offend ur feelings rather weak by comparison mondragon. if not come sc2 you'd be in trouble.
tenacity
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
1587 Posts
August 12 2015 10:16 GMT
#47
Sziky so bad ass LOL
It does not need to be fun to be fun.
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium7177 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-12 10:34:03
August 12 2015 10:23 GMT
#48
On August 12 2015 19:10 sas.Sziky wrote:
If Mondragon decides to play we prolly have to ban him. He is too good (;;



actually not here '' progaming '' bw ur win ex pros. mondragon win real pros : ) and this list ,i didnt mean to offend ur feelings rather weak by comparison mondragon. if not come sc2 you'd be in trouble.[/QUOTE]


hmm,you won they all with offraces and killing your drones :D but k if someone like you said this i have to shutup and defend the theory of the Mondragon rises ^^ !!

AND >TO BE CLEAR,IM NOT SAYING Mondi COULDNT COMEBACK AND BEAT ALL OF US,IM JUST SAYING HE NEEDS TIME, TIME OK ??? stop making me looking like a hater fuck,i love mondragon <3
johanes
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Czech Republic2246 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-12 11:42:47
August 12 2015 11:41 GMT
#49

Show nested quote +
On August 12 2015 19:23 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
On August 12 2015 19:10 sas.Sziky wrote:
If Mondragon decides to play we prolly have to ban him. He is too good (;;



actually not here '' progaming '' bw ur win ex pros. mondragon win real pros : ) and this list ,i didnt mean to offend ur feelings rather weak by comparison mondragon. if not come sc2 you'd be in trouble.



hmm,you won they all with offraces and killing your drones :D but k if someone like you said this i have to shutup and defend the theory of the Mondragon rises ^^ !!

AND >TO BE CLEAR,IM NOT SAYING Mondi COULDNT COMEBACK AND BEAT ALL OF US,IM JUST SAYING HE NEEDS TIME, TIME OK ??? stop making me looking like a hater fuck,i love mondragon <3


just do a zergling runby next time to pay tribute to him
yellowsmile
Profile Joined October 2011
United States293 Posts
August 12 2015 12:37 GMT
#50
i'd like to make a betting poll:
1. scan wins tour 4 with no losing a single game-----------1:0.4
2. scan wins tour 4 with losing one or more than one game------------1:2.5
3. scan does not win tour 4------------------1:8
4. scan does not participate in tour 4-------------------1:20

now place ur real money in!
Modesty/widowkiller_
_Animus_
Profile Joined February 2011
Bulgaria1064 Posts
August 12 2015 14:15 GMT
#51
On August 12 2015 21:37 yellowsmile wrote:
i'd like to make a betting poll:
1. scan wins tour 4 with no losing a single game-----------1:0.4
2. scan wins tour 4 with losing one or more than one game------------1:2.5
3. scan does not win tour 4------------------1:8
4. scan does not participate in tour 4-------------------1:20

now place ur real money in!

5. scan losing in the first round but still wins the whole thing by default.
Luv ya BroodWar!
Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
August 12 2015 14:20 GMT
#52
On August 12 2015 19:23 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2015 19:10 sas.Sziky wrote:
If Mondragon decides to play we prolly have to ban him. He is too good (;;



actually not here '' progaming '' bw ur win ex pros. mondragon win real pros : ) and this list ,i didnt mean to offend ur feelings rather weak by comparison mondragon. if not come sc2 you'd be in trouble.



hmm,you won they all with offraces and killing your drones :D but k if someone like you said this i have to shutup and defend the theory of the Mondragon rises ^^ !!

AND >TO BE CLEAR,IM NOT SAYING Mondi COULDNT COMEBACK AND BEAT ALL OF US,IM JUST SAYING HE NEEDS TIME, TIME OK ??? stop making me looking like a hater fuck,i love mondragon <3[/QUOTE]

i have to agree with Eon here. i wrote this
If Mondragon decides to play we prolly have to ban him. He is too good (;;
to make a joke earlier. Ofc everybody knows Mondragon was one of the top foreigners of all times. But in BW you actually need a lot of practice to be good and that's true for everybody. That this is also true for Dissy was plain to see in the Reunion Tour. And Eon has said nothing but that, he didnt claim Dissy was bad or anything. So i don't know what the trouble is regarding this joke of mine.
Broodwar for life!
juvenal
Profile Joined July 2013
2448 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-12 14:22:31
August 12 2015 14:22 GMT
#53
Scan refuses to collect the prize money out of sportsmanship to prove he's only here "to perform high quality games" (i.e. 3-0 everyone ez) ----------- 1 : 9000
Michael Probu
Assault_1
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada1950 Posts
August 12 2015 15:38 GMT
#54
On August 12 2015 13:55 trutaCz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2015 10:20 Probemicro wrote:
^lol saying all that egotist nonsense and still whining about Scan :-)

of course i am a fucking chobo/numbasek but at least im honest and not exhibiting Dunning-Kruger syndrome like a few here who then scream about banning Scan by pretending to take the moral high ground saying hes Korean and whatnot. Even former legends like NaDa/July admit they are chobo compared to the current gen of players but still finds time to enjoy the game rather than stroking their ego.

for the record this game actually has much less variance than say, sc2 simply because people with higher skill levels can really distinguish themselves thanks to its higher skill ceiling. Beating people in a BO1 is also hugely different to beating someone in a BO5/BO7. Every (good) foreigner has a good chance to beat Scan in a BO1 but hardly ever in a BO5/BO7.


Lets place a 100$bet, i bet that scan will not lose a single game playing terran in tlc4, you going in?

scan only won 3-2 in the first TLC finals right?
aedeph
Profile Joined May 2015
104 Posts
August 12 2015 16:23 GMT
#55
He lost playing zerg and protoss.
ggnore13
Profile Joined May 2015
54 Posts
August 12 2015 18:14 GMT
#56
On August 12 2015 21:37 yellowsmile wrote:
i'd like to make a betting poll:
1. scan wins tour 4 with no losing a single game-----------1:0.4
2. scan wins tour 4 with losing one or more than one game------------1:2.5
3. scan does not win tour 4------------------1:8
4. scan does not participate in tour 4-------------------1:20

now place ur real money in!

You can't be serious. If you were I would just place 1 000 USD on bet 4 and make a deal with Scan ^^
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5965 Posts
August 12 2015 21:09 GMT
#57
TLC4 still no new maps; disappointing. Adding just 1 new map wouldn't hurt, right?
Imo It would be nice if TLS could have at least one foreigner made map in the map pool, so why not start testing now?
FBH #1!
Nuclease
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1049 Posts
August 12 2015 21:21 GMT
#58
Somehow, this might be the most incomprehensible, angry, and generally cluster-fucked thread I've ever seen on TL.

I'm excited to see some small-time BW action, hopefully people stop bitching and just play the game.
Zealots, not zee-lots. | Never forget, KTViolet, Go)Space. | You will never be as good as By.Flash, and your drops will never be as sick as MMA.
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5965 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-12 21:30:22
August 12 2015 21:30 GMT
#59
kogeT is now Danish and plays T? And dRaW playing Random? Voddy fighting btw!
FBH #1!
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10873 Posts
August 12 2015 21:45 GMT
#60
On August 13 2015 06:21 Nuclease wrote:
Somehow, this might be the most incomprehensible, angry, and generally cluster-fucked thread I've ever seen on TL.

I'm excited to see some small-time BW action, hopefully people stop bitching and just play the game.

It is a lot easier to see this from an objective point of view when you are not actually playing in this event I think.
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
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