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trutaCz
Poland686 Posts
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TelecoM
United States10682 Posts
On July 31 2015 01:41 2Pacalypse- wrote: Interesting, I thought you only knew how to say "wrong"  Anyways, there's a lot of information we can get and which we need so if/when we ban Scan, we have something to compare it to. Scan's win rate is not one of them as it is irrelevant. Even though it makes me feel queasy to ban a player as a part of an experiment, we may be forced to at this point. I think that as a tournament organizer, you have to remember that this is business, not personal, especially when there is such a large prize pool on the line. | ||
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skzlime
Hungary462 Posts
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aedeph
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art_of_turtle
United States1202 Posts
On July 25 2015 13:40 iCCup.Face wrote: I think in these kind of issues the personal opinion doesn't worth anything. To think about something impartial to solve (or at least contain) the problem is the solution. My suggestion is to limit the access to next tournaments for the winners #1 #2 #3 example: #1 cant participate the next 3 tournaments (or 2) #2 cant participate the next 2 tournaments (or 1) #3 cant participate the next tournament (or no limit) In this way if TL organizing 24 tours a semi-pro player can win max 6 or 8 tours. I would actually like some more discussion on this as a possibility. It feels a bit more fair in allowing more fluctuation of winners, and keeping interest quite up for some more newer players. | ||
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FyRe_DragOn
Canada2056 Posts
On July 31 2015 06:19 art_of_turtle wrote: I would actually like some more discussion on this as a possibility. It feels a bit more fair in allowing more fluctuation of winners, and keeping interest quite up for some more newer players. no offense but I think thats a really bad idea, given the current state of foreign bw. the point of these tournaments is to increase activity, so preventing probably the most active players (the winners are usually going to be the more active ones) from even playing in more than half of the tournaments is working against, not for that goal. As well, it really hurts the competitive spirit of any tournament if the top players cant play again...you just get progressively weaker tournaments that dont matter as much, and players lose motivation to compete if their rivals arent playing, so even players that arnt banned in subsequent tournaments may not show up. People have busy enough schedules as it is, its really unlikely that the winner from one tournament is going to be able to show up to all of the others in the first place and we dont need to further reduce anyones ability to participate. if the idea is to reduce scans ability to win every tour, just fucking ban scan for reasons myself and everyone else has already posted, and dont resort to a compromise that also hurts foreigners, like this one definitely would imo. | ||
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endy
Switzerland8970 Posts
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TelecoM
United States10682 Posts
On July 31 2015 14:55 endy wrote: wow if I were the sponsor I'd tell you guys to gtfo and I'd go sponsor another game. Scan is going to be really good at that game by default as well. | ||
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Probemicro
3708 Posts
On July 31 2015 14:55 endy wrote: wow if I were the sponsor I'd tell you guys to gtfo and I'd go sponsor another game. yeah this. the sponsor is the one making the tournament possible with the prize pool. And he must have his reasons to not exclude Scan in this tourney? If people dislike it then they should just go and create their own tourney, and since its their own they can ban Scan as much as they like. All this bickering and ad nauseum arguments lol. | ||
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TelecoM
United States10682 Posts
But yeah, going in circles and the endless cycle...not getting very far. :-p | ||
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Probemicro
3708 Posts
On July 31 2015 15:33 GGzerG wrote: endy and Probemicro all of that is fine and dandy, but at the end of the day, the prize pool, and the sponsor of the event are not the issue at hand. As several have stated prior, the objective of this tournament is to raise awareness in the BW Foreign scene, etc, etc. But yeah, going in circles and the endless cycle...not getting very far. :-p and? sponsor has the $, hes the one that makes the final say, if you want to ban scan, which makes you feel that this would get more forigners to play and help improve the foreign scene, you have to really pursuade him (which doesnt seem to be working from the lack of concrete responses in this thread) or otherwise create your own tourney that bans Scan, how hard is that to understand? in the chinese scene people have complain about the amount of koreans entering their tourneys and the bizarre rules (like the even/odd set offrace handicaps) given to said koreans, but theres nothing else you can do since sponsors love the korean players and feel that inviting them would boost publicity (which it did). And rather than wasting more time spewing vitriol on the internet theres no shortage of donors willing to contribute to prizepools for chinese-only tournaments (whether 1v1 or otherwise) | ||
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juvenal
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mca64Launcher_
Poland629 Posts
 Hard to believe that no one of the admins saw the potential problems like one sided and boring tour for the viewers. | ||
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juvenal
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BisuDagger
Bisutopia19299 Posts
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juvenal
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neteX
Sweden285 Posts
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2Pacalypse-
Croatia9519 Posts
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Belgium1330 Posts
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