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Aotearoa39261 Posts
Info stolen from Honesttea; where would we be without you buddy
Starting at 18:30 korean time, 1:30 tl.net time
Matchups tonight
Hwasin (T, STX Soul) vs Pusan (P, MBCgame) on Desert Fox
Bifrost (T, OGN) vs Much (P, CJ) on Longinus 2
Nal_Ra (P, KTF) vs Canata (T, SKT) on Reverse Temple
Light (T, MBCgame) vs Xellos (T, CJ) on Blitz X
Results
+ Show Spoiler +Hwasin (T, STX Soul) > Pusan (P, MBCgame) on Desert Fox
Game Summary:
Pusan warps in at 7 and hwasin sets up at 12, pusan builds a gate and hwasin buils a rax near the stasis cell... then the game is paused. Referee pauses the game due to lag, and a restart is ordered. Sooo the game is restarted
Pusan warps in at 12 this time and Hwasin @ 7, the game opens similararly to the last game with pylon+gate near nexus into gas->core for pusan and hwasin opts for a fast expand with rax near expo. Pusan starts a robo and breaks down the stasis cell so he can start his own expo as well as getting range. Meanwhile hwasin kills the creep colony and neutral buildings and with perfect timing, his CC lands just as the creep dies off. Hwasin builds a factory Pusan sends observers down to hwasin. Hwasin proceeds to build 2 starports and an academy. Pusan takes his gas at his nat as he expands, and begins a stargate. Hwasin builds 2 wraiths which proceed to scout while adding on his factory and 1 starport. Hwasin scans his main and kills an observer with his wraiths. Pusan assumes command of his nat, and hwasin attempts to harass with his wraiths. Pusan builds some corsairs and then adds another stargate and a fleet becon. Pusan kills one of hwasins dropships attemping to drop pusan. Hwasin adds 2 factories for a total of 4. Hwasin then finds a glitch location on the map where he can tank pusan's nat gas out of reach of tanks. Pusan didnt want to reveal his carriers, so tanks continue to pound his nat and hwasin takes his min only nat and to the bottom right expo. Pusan reluctanly reveals his two fresh carriers and kills the two tanks, however 12 goliaths near the tanks kill alot of the interceptors. Hwasin adds more factories and anothe armory for upgrades. Hwasin expos ilke hes zerg and pusan claims his min only. Hwasin builds a solid goliath army. Pusan builds carriers and a decent sized goon/zealo army. Hwasin harasses pusans min only expo and kills it. Hwasin has a very scary number of goliaths and positions them nicely so that pusan cannot mine from his min only expo as well as turreting up the north of his main. Hwasin drops about 16 goliaths into pusan's main and forces his probes to run. Pusan defends barely with goons/zealot with some carrier support. Hwasin expands some more. Hwasin snipes a carrier, and pusan send his 5 remaining carriers to hwasins expo @ 5, but loses all his corsairs to golaith fire but kills the expo. HWasin drops 5 dropships of goliaths behind pusans carriers and kills all but 3 carriers. Hwasin traps the other carriers, but pusan fights it and kills a number of dropships and some goliaths. Hwasin has many goliaths now, abotu 30 in his main. Pusan attempts to expand at 12, but 4 dropships full of goliaths stop that. Pusan builds more corsairs and carriers and runs his carrier remnants up the right hand side of the map. Despite good micro with 6 carriers against hwasins goliaths, hwasin stops another expo attempt at 12. By now pusan has very limited minerals remaining. Hwasin then runs around the map with the 4 dropships stopping any expo attempts, and 50ish goliaths make any attempt at agression useless. Pusan kills 5 again, then types out.
Bifrost (T, OGN) > Much (P, CJ) on Longinus 2
Nal_Ra (P, KTF) > Canata (T, SKT) on Reverse Temple
Light (T, MBCgame) > Xellos (T, CJ) on Blitz X
My (worthless) Predictions
Hwasin < Pusan @ Desert Fox
- Hwasin mustve practiced hard for two games in his weak mus this week while pusan has only had proleague to worry about in the past 2 weeks... i think pusan is not only the better player but the more prepared player.. and that means i think he will win
- Bifrost < Much @ Longinus 2
Much is on form, and dominating left right and center.. bifrost isnt known for his tvp.. plus much has 2 tvp's this week so he should be well prepared for this game
- Nal_Ra < Canata @ Reverse Temple
Now that canata only have one league to focus on, and has no games in a long long time i think he will be well practiced for this game.. Nal_ra is a monster and will be no pushover and this game could really go either way.. should be a gg regardless
- Light > Xellos @ Blitz X
Im a sucker for light... and well, xellos isnt quite the perfec terran he once was.. light has also been pracicing tvt alot this week and hopefully it pays off.. xellos on the other hand will also be well prepared.. but this (for me) is a pure fanboyism vote
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like 2 hours to go ;(.
Hwasin
Much
Canata
XellOs
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This layout looks familiar 
On to my shitty predictions..
Pusan - Agree that pusan has been on fire in proleagues and should translate into good form, hwasin hasnt proved anything beyond tvz so far imo. Though map makes it a tough pick.
Much - Dominating, P>T map.. bifrost aka justin aka no chance.
Ra - Sweet match-up, I expect some Ra wizardry on this map.. 50/50 imo.
Xellos - Another toss-up, I went with the slightly better TvT record.. really have no idea.
Only Much is safe bet today I think.
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
On December 27 2006 23:27 siro) wrote:This layout looks familiar On to my shitty predictions.. Pusan - Agree that pusan has been on fire in proleagues and should translate into good form, hwasin hasnt proved anything beyond tvz so far imo. Though map makes it a tough pick. Much - Dominating, P>T map.. bifrost aka justin aka no chance. Ra - Sweet match-up, I expect some Ra wizardry on this map.. 50/50 imo. Xellos - Another toss-up, I went with the slightly better TvT record.. really have no idea. Only Much is safe bet today I think. learnt from the best 
And agreed that much is the only really safe bet here
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Canata vs. Ra is going to be the best match, I bet. There's no predicting what might happen or who might win!
I do wonder if Ra will pull another shocker, like he did two msls ago against oov when he was the dominating terran (he actually outmacrod the macro monster, on rush hour 3 no less). My prediction is Ra's cheese vs. Canata's outstanding multitasking abilities. This is LT - not some macro oriented map.
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Ah! No Zergs for me to root for! Y-Y Oh well I'll just root for the most beautiful progamer.
Xellos 
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Also, pusan was the god of 815, especially in tvp. Lets hope skill transfers.
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Starts in approx 1.5h
yes I'll be posting this every 10 seconds because I am impatient
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winner of pusan/hwasin vs savior
winner of bifrost/much vs silver
winner of ra/canata vs bisu
winner of light/xellos vs free
Is that correct?
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My Predictions
Hwasin < Pusan @ Desert Fox
- I'm just automatically voting toss(same with rA) but seriously PUSANPUSAN
- Bifrost < Much @ Longinus 2
I haven't seen too much of Much's games(srry) but him beating NaDa and just being toss 
- Nal_Ra > Canata @ Reverse Temple
I know any Terran from SKT is just a threat by itself but I really want the old DREAMER back
- Light > Xellos @ Blitz X
Xellos is horrible compared to the rising Light right now. xellos is a strong TvT'er tho...
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On December 28 2006 00:34 sage_francis wrote:
winner of pusan/hwasin vs savior
winner of bifrost/much vs silver
winner of ra/canata vs bisu
winner of light/xellos vs free
Is that correct?
That's correct except it's "loser of" instead of "winner of". -_-
Winners of today's matches are qualified for the next round.
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GOM is always better if you can get it to work
my laptop dont got it
and my computer gays with GOMTv, so gl yo
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we can watch mbc stream live on gomtv too?
i thought it was only to watch vods.
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30 Mins more to go. btw, the mbc stream doesnt seem to work to me. its fucking rebuffering evrery 2 sec.
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hehe, thnx
btw, my picks for today are:
Pusan (dunno why exactly, but Hwasin still has to prove his TvP powers)
Much (the dude shows some exellent PvT skills)
cocky Nal_Ra has the mental game already won. His godly powers will go with the flow
Xellos impressed me vs Nada some time ago, so I still support him. (and the NationalG. docu won my heart for him ... (I love you mom *snif* <== the best part )
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pusan for an another thumb up !
haha that was so great ^^
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hey MarcX, stream lag-free with you? (just wondering because we're both dutchmen)
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ok i have my gom player up and running right now....
going through the 2 commercials now
anyone w/ stream wanna tell me what's on MBC? I only ask because last time i did this, i messed up and ended up watching soccer for 20 minutes because i thought the match hadn't started yet ^_^
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MBC showing a first person of some crazy ass PvP, thanks for the tip
edit: its that crazy ass one on blitz, damn i forget who the players were..
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There's some Starcraft FPV stuff right now.
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god damnit damnit damnit wrong stream
gcrap hahah
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auto statsis to protect from psi storm :p
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agh i'm sorry
i've looked at the news post page on the front like so many times
and i still can't seem to figure out how to get onto MBC yet :[
i'm still watching some interview and it says GOM TV in the top right
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right now i'm on a screen that has each of the matches for tonight and the players have 0:0 under their names
it has little pictures of each player and i have a big MSL logo in the top right
where to now?
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Yes. It's lag-free. I pay 80 euros / month for my internet, though, dunnno if that's got anything to do with it.
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On December 28 2006 01:25 MarcX wrote:
Yes. It's lag-free. I pay 80 euros / month for my internet, though, dunnno if that's got anything to do with it.
80 euros ? What speed is that?
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1.5 MB/s
Korean girls so cute ^.^~
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@MarcX k, mine is twice as cheap, but it comes with uberlag atm :@
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What player are you using? Since I was just bragging.. : P it's not important. You should use a good player like Mplayer or VLC
Internet so expensive here BTW T_T.. In Korea you get 100 MB/s for 25 euros
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Day, F5, the yellow live tab is lit!!
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nice commercial of girl taking a shit~ better eat that fiber yo~
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AGH THE LITTLE GAY YELLOW TAB
ARRGGHH
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still nothing tho... @!#$@!#@!#$
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GoChannes, what player? Use VLC or Mplayer and turn caching on.
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Damn... I can hardly get the stream up. Looks like internet access in Asia is still not working well thanks to the earthquake.
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On December 28 2006 01:35 The Storyteller wrote:
Damn... I can hardly get the stream up. Looks like internet access in Asia is still not working well thanks to the earthquake.
That's might be the case. shittttt
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o.O; Are you sure that's the problem? Turn everything off and do a DSL speedtest. You don't need much for this stream.
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oh, MPclassic most of the time, but the livestream comes with his own type of player?
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or do I have to copy/paste the mms-link in my own player?
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Ah, copy the mms:// link from the source and paste it in mpclassic see if it's better. Otherwise use a good player (same procedure, view source, find mms:// link and copy/paste).
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commentators are talking, games should be underway momentarily
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wish I coulld unnderstand..... T_T
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fucking sweet names
red sniper vs spirit (Hwasin vs Pusan)
unlimited vs smart (Justin/Casy/Loser/Dork/Geek/Fluke vs Much)
dreamer vs undertaker (Nal_rA vs Canata)
super vs perfect (Light vs Xellos)
god GREAT GREAT lineup of matches tonight
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hwasin's nickname is Red Sniper... wtf? anyone care to explain?
and lawl... Canata's nickname is "Undertaker" so random..
much's nickname is just "Smart" lmao
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Hwasin praying before his game
he's currently 17-8 (WOW 14-3 VS ZERG)
and 0-2 vs protoss. Fortunately for him, Pusan will be picking zerg...
.....lol gotcha!
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jeez 13-5 record for pusan, pretty sexi
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You don't understand. The whole of Asia is experiencing slow access because an earthquake damaged undersea cables. With some service providers, I cannot even access any pages outside of Singapore. I'm lucky, my service provider seems to be able to give me access to webpages, but even then, stuff like youtube take forever to load.
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OMG PUSAN SICK
8-2 vs Zerg
WTTFF YEASS!!
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yes that one o.O; you have to be fast and do two things
1. Cancel the player on the site (or use Firefox)
2. Paste link into your own player quickly
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On December 28 2006 01:39 starofNC wrote:
hwasin's nickname is Red Sniper... wtf? anyone care to explain?
and lawl... Canata's nickname is "Undertaker" so random..
much's nickname is just "Smart" lmao
perhaps due to the fact that he's known for insanely well timed, aggressive early game MnM control vs zerg players. Also, STX has that sexy red logo!
Red Sniper! bang bang!
DUCK BITCHES
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On December 28 2006 01:41 The Storyteller wrote:
You don't understand. The whole of Asia is experiencing slow access because an earthquake damaged undersea cables. With some service providers, I cannot even access any pages outside of Singapore. I'm lucky, my service provider seems to be able to give me access to webpages, but even then, stuff like youtube take forever to load.
I got that, I was just wondering if you were assuming or actually tested your line speed
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13-5 for pusan vs t 3-1 vs z 8-1 vs p 2-2
a top rate player, with a good matchup, a gosu matchup, and a promising matchup
hwasin with + 11 and pusan +14 (i guess recent win/loss for all leagues)
both pusan and whasin are 5-5 in tvp for all recent leagues
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
On December 28 2006 01:41 Day[9] wrote:
OMG PUSAN SICK
8-2 vs Zerg
WTTFF YEASS!! thats what? 80% winrate?
thats near to his brag before losing to JZ... what was it.. he wins 90% of pvz?
On December 28 2006 01:15 sage_francis wrote:
pusan for an another thumb up !
haha that was so great ^^ What about whenhe poured juice all over himself rofl xD
On December 28 2006 00:02 oshibori_probe wrote:
Also, pusan was the god of 815, especially in tvp. Lets hope skill transfers. pusan was a god on 815? i thought that was anytime...
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by the way
for any of you who missed them
i HIGHLY HIGHLY HIGHLY recommend the loser's games from last week
GREAT GREAT display by all players : ]
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map stats for pvt is T 2 vs O P
pusan will put a 1 for P
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why did i pick pusan, i know this map is just ridiculus ><
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will the 815 god take down the zerg slayer
we shall see
3 2 1 PUSAN FIGHTING!
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hwasin was dropped from the game lol
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Yeah, I tested it... can't remember the exact figures, but it was slow. However, I believe it's getting faster... They may have managed to do some rerouting in the past hour or so.
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AHAHAHA HWASIN! AND REFEREE DROPS! :D
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hwasins hacks have been discovered!
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ahhaha
i love it when matches start off w/ technical difficulties!
yaaaay hwasin!
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Oh, lovely! I've got MBCgame stream playing! They must have rerouted my access! Aaaaaand.... what just happened?
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ill laugh if next time ipxzerg has a msl game his nickname just says "gay"
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
On December 28 2006 01:44 oshibori_probe wrote:
will the 815 god take down the zerg slayer
we shall see
3 2 1 PUSAN FIGHTING! pusan was the god of forte... not the god of 815...
that was anytime
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oh man, two intros for 1 game
now THAT'S MSL
yessssssss
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ok
i will be reporting these games
i better run to pee real fast then!
i get so excited during games i don't want to wet myself :[
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Someone was just holding up a Nal_ra sign, lol
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ok great!
Hwasin @12
Pusan @7
gogo Pusan fightiiing!
Pusan builds a pylon next to his nexus
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ROFL nice poster, I just saw that movie tonight
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MarcX ... "file not found" :'(
can you copy/paste your mms link here plz?
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Pusan building a gateway
AAHAHAHAHA. Pusan has a night at the museum photoshop for his poster. God, MBC game always has the BEST posters, ever since july came on the scene way back when
Hwasin building a rax at the edge of his main, near the plateau side
Someone requests a pause
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It appears hwasin would like to reinstall the hacks that caused the computer to crash in the first game
Players are consulting the referees
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Any korean wanna translate the issue?
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man, MBC has some sweet visual arts in the background
those are pleasing to the eye : ]
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WOW what on earth is going on
someone fighterforum gogogo? hahaha :D
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not so good start for the day :O
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yakii
Korea (South)1448 Posts
due to lag, referee paused the game
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ah, thanks. What are they talking about now?
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whats the longest anyones ever seen a game delay for like this?
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
hwasin hacks
hacks cause lag
=(
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omg white people in the audience
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they can all go 2 sleep :O
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yakii
Korea (South)1448 Posts
they are talking about network and bad ping problem.
not only these computer's network is bad but the other computers in press room is also bad.
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Haha, totally of topic but it's gold anyway ^_^
1st Is SO fucking true :D
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god cant they just fix the lag already, this is really retarded
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uhm why don't they start?-___-;
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howabout they just restart the game?
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
how about hwasin forfiet ..;;
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CA10828 Posts
oh good, its about to restart
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there are the commentators talking from ten minutes...--,
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uhh........
anyone else's stream just die?
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oh nm i'm working again
yay n' stuff?
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yakii
Korea (South)1448 Posts
they are talking about each player, maps till network fixed.
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Nope, still going for me. A lot of talking. =/
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today games are so exciting
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still going but i see everything yellow and blue^^;
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yes advertisments...it gets better
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ok match FINALLY STARTING
42 minutes late : ]
but all good nontheless
HAHA THEY SWAPPED POSITIONS!
Pusan @12
Hwasin @7
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hope no problems this time
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Both players open up exactly same way as last game
Pusan pylons and gateways next to his main nexus
Hwasin building a Barrax at the edge of his main nearby his natural
Pusan's gas finishes and he begins a core
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LOL AND THEYY SWITCHED RACEES TOO
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looks like shuttle play coming
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Hwasin now starting a CC
Rax is now finished tho. Robo facility started for Pusan
Hwasin is pumping marines from his rax to kill the sunken at his natural
Pusan now breaking down his entrance pyramid w/ a zealot
Range upgrading from the core
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Observatory out for pusan...
Interesting!
Hwasin's CC is now finished and Hwasin is rapidly trying to kill the shit out of the neutral buildings standing in his path!
Factory now almost finihsed for Hwasin. CC is currently landed in PERFECT timing. Wow, the creep just BARELY drew away in time
Pusan almost done killine the neutral builds towards his nat. Pusan sending his 1st observer in the correct direction. Hwasin's pyramids fall and he sends his Workers away
2 PORT WRAITH FOR HWASIN! INTERESTING CHOICE! :D
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2 port ooh, way to get scouted!
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Really what's the point of that creep? Make sure T/P don't expand but Z can, right?
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Academy nearly finished for Hwasin and 2 wraiths are being produced. Hwasin has 6 marines and is also making a vulture. This is a GREAT GREAT GREAT by Hwasin. WOW PUSAN IS CRAZY
PUSAN TAKES THE GAS AT HIS NATURAL before he expands there
how cool how cool indeed. Pusan is also making a starport in his main. SO COOL i <3 pusan
2 wraiths up for Hwasin as he dashes directly towards Pusan's main. Hwasin adding on both his factory and 1 starport
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and pusan gets sairs, worked vs boxer, should work vs hwasin
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Hwasin cleverly scans and kills an observer in his main w/ the wraiths. Pusans's Dragoons are patrolling about his main trying to fend off those pesky wraiths. Pusan's natural now finished.
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uhm i don't think hwasin is doing the right thing..:/
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pusan kills 2 wraiths with goons
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Pusan REALLY REALLY REALLY hungry for that extra gas. He already has probes there mining before the nexus is done.
Wow nice micro by pusan, he manages to kill a wraith, but loses a probe. Hwasin looking good w/ his vastly quicker economy. Pusan making oodles of corsairs in the hidden corner of his main
2nd factory just now started for Hwasin. Hwasin has 1 tank up and about 5 wraiths. It appears that hwasin is still making wraiths. Great news for Pusan. 2nd factory almost finished for Pusan
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that's 4 corsairs right there
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4 wraiths, 1 hit, who is this amatuer
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hwasin has 3 tahnks and is going here and there with 3 wraiths..he wants to kill some probves
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CAARRIERSS COMINGGYEEAH GG
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never see a tvp like this :D
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haha scan & kill observer
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Pusan has dragoons nicely positioned everywhere to fend off any atacks or anything.
Hwasin trying to harass w/ some cloaked wraiths. Hwasin is gathering together his relatively small ground army... perhaps for a drop?
OH SHIT Pusan adds on another starport and is now starting to build carriers. REALLY nice tech from pusan. Hwasin cleverly scans again to kill an observer inside his main
OH SHIT!!!
JFKSLDJFKLSAJFKLSAFJKLSA Pusan kills hwasin's shuttle w/ his corsairs!
2 more factories being added on for hwasin (total of 4)
GREAT GERAT play from both players so far
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WOOO corasir rape a dropship
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desert fox is the new 815
we should call pusan the rommel of bw
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carriers a building. Pusan still has 4 corsairs. I'm developing a massive stomach ache and i don't nkow why... owwie.
OMG SICK SICK SICK SICK
HWASIN FINDS A GLITCH LOCATION!
Hwasin gets a new d-ship and drops tanks in a small small small crack out of range of any dragoons but BARELY in range of Pusan's mineral line. That's just fucking stupid
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another dropship raped by sairs
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very risky dropship manip
hwasin is confident
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two tanks well placed managed to attack probe in pusan's exp
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2 carriers for pusan, 4 goliaaths for Hwasin
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Omg this is such insane fucking bullshit hahahaha
Pusan is currently not mining from his natural due to 2 tanks positioned in extremely wierd locations. Pusan now checking around the map w/ his corsairs. It looks like Pusan is going to have to try to kill off those tanks w/ his brand new carriers
i'm not sure pusan wants to reveal them yet.
Hwasin expanding to his mineral only natural and to bottom right
Lots of goliaths and dropships for Hwasin. Shit, Pusan really needs to start reclaiming his natural like NOW n' stuff
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looks like hwasin might have this
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has hwasin scouted the riers?
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I'm quite skeptical about those fast carriers.
Hwasin is in the lead by a fair margin imho.
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now riers raped the two tanks
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but there are liaths and marine to defend them
ok hwasin leads now.
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Pusan BARELY kills the tanks, but unfortunately Hwasin has 12 goliaths and wraiths positioned there which easily kill most of the interceptors. Pusan's life is looking pretty fragile right now
Hwasin taking the @5 main
looking GREAT GREAT for Hwasin. Hwasin adding on a bunch more factories and has 2 armories researching
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In the meantime Hwasin has built up his goliath numbers and while Pusan's 2 carriers try to get rid of the tanks harassing his expansion, he loses many interceptor and takes missile fire, not accomplishinng much.
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Hwasin has lots of gas expos now as well. It's pretty much over if he doesn't fuck up badly.
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Pusan desperately trying to take his mineral only natural.
The only problem that Hwasin might have right now is that he's a _BIT_ overextended.
Also Hwasin seems to have VERY VERY VERY few SCV's mining anywhere really
Hwasin REALLY putting a fuckton of pressure on Pusan tho. Pusan finds a rax and kills it w/ his Carriers
Hwasin seiges outside pusan's mineral natural to kill it
Pusan has 6 carriers now and a good dragoon/zealot count
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hwasin has......... 6 bases? -_-
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The CC's willl produce those SCV's at an impressive rate, while there isn't much Pusan can do aboutt it now.
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wtf is doing pusan..HWASIN DROP
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pusan brings in the carriers, and his superior skills show
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Hwasin should just gol drop right under the carriers.
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Goliath drop OMG MASSACRE OF PROBE
Pusan doesn't have many probe mining anywhere either; ) anymore
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WOW LOTS AND LTOS AND LOTS AND LOTS of goliaths for Hwasin. hwasin is also massing up turrets at the north of his main. Pusan's mineral only natural finishes, but he can't mine from it due to some peskily positioned goliaths
AGH GOLLIE DROP IN PUSANS MAIN! OFMSDOAFMSAIOFMAS
Pusan has to run away w/ all his fucking probes
about 16 goliaths are raping the fuck out of pusan's main. Pusan is trying now to defend w/ a limited number of dragoons and zealots, they don't really do alot of damage
Pusan's carriers come in and finish off the Goliaths. Although Pusan held that off, Hwasin is taking too much of the map now
this will be an uphill game for Pusan
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pusan is fucked i think..
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sloppy micro loses 1 carrier
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Hwasin has a CC up just for mining gas.
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I called it the moment I saw it: the map's a joke, a graveyard, a piece of shit--pick your label. How it got past beta in its present state is unimaginable.
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Pusan immediately goes for the @5 main w/ his 5 carriers (just lost 1) and is looking in good shape to kill it
Hwasin has 5 dropships of gliaths coming there soon... this is getting pretty good
oh fuck fuck fuck fukc shit. Pusan stupidly loses all of his corsairs to goliath fire
Pusan kills the @5 CC relatively easily.
ow fuck my stomach is really hurting right now
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other dships drops under sairs and kill them all
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i hate to say it, but pusan is in deep shit, comeback plz
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pusan fucked lost carriers..
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Hwasin going for a big goliath drop from behind OMG FUCK FUKC SO MANY GOLIATHS PUSAN AAGGH
Pusan loses all but 3 carriers and is trapped in the bottom right expo area.
Although pusan is killing it, its just not looking good for tin at all agh gross
Pusan kills a good amount of dropships though
This game is just very very wierd
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Looks like Hwasin is following the advice and drops the golii right under thhe carriers
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On December 28 2006 02:27 Jathin wrote:
This map is so balanced. Gooooooooooo Mapdori msl dont use mapdori... OGN does
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Althoough losing some dropshiip, onnly 2 carriers left now
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He had an advantage after those horrible 2 port wraiths, dropship tech would have been a better follow-up
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a quick peek of Hwasin's main shows that Hwasin has about 30 goliaths
This game is Hwasins
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hwasin has just too many dships/liaths...pusan can't win with riers only.
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i'm kinda glad pusan won't claim a win for protoss. hopefully protoss never wins a single match against terran on this map and the mapmakers will realize they need to stop being so "innovative" and start making balanced maps
sucks for pusan though -_-
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Pusan now expanding to the top right island expo. Hwasin coming w/ 4 dropships and countless goliaths. Hwasin currently has every expansion along the lower rim of the map.
More carriers and corsairs being made for Hwasin right now. Pusan moving along the right edge of the map w/ his carrier army now
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msl goes for picture-esque maps that may be fun and look cool but can be imbalanced sometimes. On the contrary they sometimes are gods gift to starcraft.
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1 base toss against 4 base terran
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Pusan's 6 strong carrier army is microing w/ hwasin's goliaths VERY effectivley along the bottom expansion region
unfortunately, Hwasin counter attacks the @12 island and kills it. Good play by Hwasin
Pusan almost mined out right now
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dships incoming and rape pusan's attempt to exp
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how many fuckin liaths OO
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This is Hwasin ownage... I voted for Pusan but didnt see the map... But Pusan strategy was stupid not only because of the map...
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he's losing because i voted for him..he always lose when i vote for him..sorry guys^^;
pusan try to kill hwasin's expos with is fleet but hwasin is reactive with liaths
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i almost don't really want to report anymore, the game is just becoming very sad very fast.
Hwasin is running around w/ 4 dropships, just murdering the shit out of any expansion attemps by pusan.
Hwasin has about 50 goliaths which make any sort of offensive by Pusan virtually fruitless, high ground or not...
This might be game coming up a minute here... Hwasin is getting a bunch of goliaths to drop right next to the carriers
Pusan finally kills the bottom right expansion
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On December 28 2006 02:31 puLs.ReADy wrote:
This is Hwasin ownage... I voted for Pusan but didnt see the map... But Pusan strategy was stupid not only because of the map...
hwasin was the one with the stupid strategy, but because of tank gaying pusan couldn't even mine gas from his nat
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savior will rape pusan so badly, omaigawd
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Pusan GG's
how unbelievably gay
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i blame the technical difficulties and the map
that was a tossgirl GG tho, he could have kept fighting
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there's just too many goliath now, and Pusan is running out of options. He's running around with his carriers trying to do ssome damage bbut only accommplishes losing them. Hwasinn could go for the kill anytimme.
ah gG it's over
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
i am outraged
i am sad
that game was bs
if the game had stayed as it was before the lag/restart maybe the gayness wouldnt have come about
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On December 28 2006 02:33 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
savior will rape pusan so badly, omaigawd
Pusan stands a vastly better chance vs Savior than he does vs any terran on Desert Fox :[
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omg thats one hell of a winningstreak for Hwasin <3
0/1 so far for my LB :'(
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 though i don't like pusan this map sucks-,-,
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On December 28 2006 02:32 yubee wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2006 02:31 puLs.ReADy wrote:
This is Hwasin ownage... I voted for Pusan but didnt see the map... But Pusan strategy was stupid not only because of the map... hwasin was the one with the stupid strategy, but because of tank gaying pusan couldn't even mine gas from his nat
If his strategy wasnt fast Carriers he could defense it...
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Desert Fox is even gayer than I thought if you can tank the first gas expansion too.
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It's not JUST a map balance problem if there is one. Hwasin played brilliantly and Pusan wasn't exactly perfect.
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How do you play on a map where you can't take either of your nats but your opponent can?
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hope in a Ra Show
spot time
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im never voting against hwasin again
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
okay people.. those who are claiming that pusan played bad- what *could* he have done better?
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On December 28 2006 02:36 Plexa wrote:
okay people.. those who are claiming that pusan played bad- what *could* he have done better?
mass recalls !!!!!!
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On December 28 2006 02:35 MarcX wrote:
It's not just a map balance problem if there is one. Hwasin played brilliantly and Pusan wasn't exactly perfect.
i don't see what was brilliant? hwasin went two port wraiths and killed a single probe before being repelled.. pusan played standard and couldn't even take his nat gas. pusan did nothing wrong
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uhm i don't think he played badly but doing only carriers has been a mistake in my opinion :/
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Well as it turned out Pusan has a slow start, and as a result couldn't even defend well against harass while Hwasin expands all over the map. A more aggressive starting strategy perhaps? And not so many panic corsairs.
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lately protoses kill zergs but cannot kill the terrans, of of, protosses never manage to dominate overall
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On December 28 2006 02:36 Plexa wrote:
okay people.. those who are claiming that pusan played bad- what *could* he have done better?
yeah honestly, from the moment i saw Hwasin 2 port wraithing as Pusan had his natural almost finished. I literally saw no extremely effective counter to Hwasin's play other than what pusan already did.
I the only thing Pusan could have done better is take the @12 island expansion earlier instead of his mineral natural
but everything was so insanely gay, especially that little crack thing that Hwasin abused. Anyone else know if other positions have that problem?
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I don't think there's anything he could do after his nat got bugtank0wned.
He wouldn't have been able to hold 12 with so few carrier against the number of goliaths and dropships Hwasin had. Not enough gas.
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
hwasins strategy basicly nulled any chance pusan had of early agression..
corsairs were the right options...
however, the map allows terran to take their expo fast than protoss -> which makes life incredibly hard regardless..
then hwasin abused the map and tanked pusans gas - not alot he can do now?
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ahah these korean's spots are cool^___-
anyway,now pusan vs savior...looks pretty bad for pusan
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agh damnit
ok so i don't have any medicine and my stomach is hurting REALLY badly
anyone have any common simple remedies?
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Haters. Hwasin is clearly god
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
@day about the map glitch;I havent played this map extensively... but somehow i dont think so..
EDIT: looking closely at the map, that is the only position you can do it... 3 has a mineral patch preventing it and 6 has a doodad preventing drop
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Ah, you're probably right. Corsair/Reaver stuff maybe? If he could keep his shuttles alive at least he could try some coutner harassing.
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k spot time finished
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On December 28 2006 02:37 MarcX wrote:
Well as it turned out Pusan has a slow start, and as a result couldn't even defend well against harass while Hwasin expands all over the map. A more aggressive starting strategy perhaps? And not so many panic corsairs.
you can't really get much more aggressive than that on an island map -_-
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Also Pusan would have a hard time doing any strat other than carriers considering that Hwasin's opening was 2 port cloak wraith. How is he going to get fighting units out vs. range goli and wraith?
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Much is too hot atm i don't think he can lose ..
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Yeah ok but with this strategy he had no chance whatsoever.
So what about Corsair/Shuttle? Just tell me how it would lose I'm not claiming it would be any better.
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the only thing that will make me feel better is much crushing another terran with something cheesy. come on much gimme another goon ferry baby
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On December 28 2006 02:43 MarcX wrote:
Yeah ok but with this strategy he had no chance whatsoever. it doesnt appear that ANY strategy has much chance on this map in those positions...
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On December 28 2006 02:41 yubee wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2006 02:37 MarcX wrote:
Well as it turned out Pusan has a slow start, and as a result couldn't even defend well against harass while Hwasin expands all over the map. A more aggressive starting strategy perhaps? And not so many panic corsairs. you can't really get much more aggressive than that on an island map -_- And an island map where the terran opens 2 port cloacked wraith -.;;
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I have a gut feeling much isn't going to win
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On December 28 2006 02:45 GoBOXERgogo wrote:
I have a gut feeling much isn't going to win
hope u are not right;)
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much looks more like a latino than a korean
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for tvp much +21 and bifrost -1 (all games together)
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Much should win this -_-'
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for the map
T 5 Z 1
Z 0 P 1
P 2 T 2
even though T can turtle, and P cant do anything about it, the stats are balanced, should be a GG
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these map suck..i want baekdu back-,-,
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marcX i think you are a little confused: hwasin played brilliant? free fast gas expo for terran in this map + weird spot to siege pusans nat + undefendable min only => gg
and just to know what strategy has a chance for protoss in this map??
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On December 28 2006 02:46 Jathin wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2006 02:43 MarcX wrote:
Yeah ok but with this strategy he had no chance whatsoever.
So what about Corsair/Shuttle? Just tell me how it would lose I'm not claiming it would be any better. Goliaths. You can effectively walk back and forth from his base to yours via the center of the map. Hwasin had that cheesy little corner for seige tanks taking his gas - so Pusan's best shot with that strat would be to load shuttles with zealots. He packed his base full of turrets so the amount of shuttles/sairs you'd lose to even get in wouldn't be worth it.
Goliath don't do well vs zealot/dragoon. If he could get a ground force out there maybe hwasin would have had less than 4x pusan's bases and Pusan could think of something maybe.
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much looks like a bulgarian
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On December 28 2006 02:49 sage_francis wrote:
much looks like a bulgarian
pretty pretty:-)
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Much at 3. Bifrost at 11.
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ok the game is starting
"JUSTIN" lol gay @ 11
Much @ 3
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bifrost is face-fatty!^___-; teddy bear!
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Savior is soo great player!
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justin sounds fruity -______- worse than casy
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ok sorry for the brief delay in reporting:
Justin (lol so gay) is walling in at his natural entrance
Much is building a gateway at the choke to HIS natural.
Other than that, standard play from both players: fast gas normal tech
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On December 28 2006 02:52 Byyk wrote:
Savior is soo great player!
huh ?
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Much builds a zealot and Justin (lol what a stupid name) is starting his first factory
Much tries to do some pylon wallin gayness, but it doesn't work.
Core almost done for much now
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ok probe in bifrost's main
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2 zealots attacking Justin (lol what a loser) wallin. He repairs in time and Much is adding on a 2nd gateway + range for dragoons.
NICE Much traps one of Justin's (hahaha what a dork) marines right as it pops outside of the barrax.
1st dragoon heading Terranward
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A zealot is now in the process of figuring out that you can't kill marines that are behind a wall.
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2zea+1goon trying to brake the wall
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3 marines out for Justin (jesus what a geek) and Much putting serious pressure @ the ramp w/ 1 dragoon and 2 zealots. Much is now starting his natural expansion as is Justin
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Basic wall harassment, looking to finally do something now that there is dragoons, but a tank is in time and scares them off easily. Siege mode. Expanded.
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seige mode finishes for Justin and he has tanks EXCELLENTLY positioned behind the wallin. a handful of dragoons out for Much-o-nator right now.
e-bay nearing completion for Justin and still just 1 factory + seige tanks pumping out for justin.
Robo fac halfway done for Much
E-bay finished now and Justin throws down some well placed turrets as his CC finishes
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bulgarian reaver but the gay expect it
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Much's nexus finishes and both players are looking extremely even.
Justin still running off just 1 factory however. robo support bay finished now for Much. Justin starts 3 factories all at once (4 total now) to prepare for a ncie timing push.
Much adding on a 3rd gateway and still pumping dragoons and positioning them well
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Much has a spotter zealot outside Justin's main, it takes a few tank fires, but readjusts itself well. Reaver completed now for Much. Much gets ready to move out
Justin now pumping out vultures from his factories.
only 5 tanks tho... kind of low
Much getting ready to reaver drop...
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Tanks want to push out. Does he really expect thaat rreaver?
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REAVER DROP GOGOGOGOGO
aahh it kills 2 SCVs!
ahahah Much is such a ninja w/ that reaver ^_^
Much also now expanding to the @5 gas+mineral expansion
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i'm leaning back to ease some of my stomach pain
Much adds 2 more gateways (5 total) and a citadel
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Horrible reaver control not doing Much damage.
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Nice game by much.wont let him aout,taking another exp,gathering army...
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another expand up for much, Terran's army looks far more impressive atm
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much has not enough zea and justin has lots of tanks
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Much is playing VERY well (no surprise there)
Justin is moving forward!
Much loses a dragoon to some tank fire but manages to get a nice reaver shot off which takes out a vulture or 2
Much's @5 expansion is finished and running. 6 gateways out for Much now and Justin is beginning a slow push forwards. Justin is also building a command center outside his mineral only natural, CLEARLY going ot expand there (lol who'da thought?)
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Actually army differene is alright. T is also wanting to expand.
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i think justin has a slight lead now.
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Zealot bombing taking out some tanks.
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TERRAN DROPPP oh it fails, cuz of cannnon
Terran's expand now landed, dragoons trying to harass it but wwall of tanks is sufficient for now
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justin advance with his big tanks army why no zea from much?:/
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Justin taking a more aggressive position closer to the central high grounds @ his large ramp
NICE zealot bomb by much. Much takes out a tank. Much positions his dragoons in a large circle around Justin's forces
Justin has addon on 2 factories, 2 w/o (4 total factories)
Justin tries to do a cute drop, but Much has PERFECTLY time cannons at all of his expansions.
Startgate morphing for much at his @5 high ground expo.
Ever since Justin has been looking aggressive, Much has been making NOTHING but speed zealots. Much researching air attack in his main now.
Dropship curving aroun the edge of the map now and fucking MUCH HAS DRAGOONS TO INTERCEPT? OMG HAX!
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OMG AAGGHHH MUCH BARELY MISSES IT FUCK FUCK WW TTFF
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GREAT much manages to kill justin's dship and is going stargate
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xD dropship skillfully evades dragoons it cannot even see and ends up flyinng straight into cannnons
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where did the dropship go MUch? haha
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Much is in formation to attack the terran natural right now.. impressive army
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ahahah Much kills the dropship and everything inside! DIIEE JUSTIN!
Justin still doesn't have very many factories up and running. Justin is essentially playing ome of those homo turtle style terrans that works surprisingly effectively.
Justin adding on factories (7 total, 2 w/ addon) and has 2 armories upgrading.
Much has a sick zealot count and is positioning all of his units into the center of the map.
About 11 gateways up for much, in addition to 2 stargates making (carriers?)
Much expanding to the @6 mineral only expansion
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justin's has really lots of tanks.
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carriers coming. Single zeaalot in an ambush trap just killed an scv wanting to sscouut or expand
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Carriers morphing for much and Justing makes a wraith! lol
OMG MUCH IS MOVING FORWARDS W/ EVERYTHING!!
whoah Much just takes out a tank or two and pulls back instantly. fuck so many zealots
aarrgh Justin's wraith spots the 2 carriering stargates.
Much catches a bunch of vultures offguard.
about 14 gateways for much right now
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now much has a big good mixed army
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Vultures hope to find probe-food, but end up finding nothing protoss inn the bottom left cornerr of the map.
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Terran is going to move out right now. Much regrouups in center of map
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8 factories for much now, 2 w/ addon
DAMN they both have big big big fuckin armies
Much still has high ground control however
Justin positioned all his factories retardedly and therefore they cannot rally properly
OH FUCK JUSTIN BEGINS AN AGGRESSIVE PUSH!
Much tries to swarm it, but it doesn't work! lots of dead zealots!!
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they must have reached limit.impressive armies
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Justin now rapidly pushing towards the @6 mineral only of Much
Much rushes to defend w/ 2 low interceptor carriers.
Justin makes short work of the @6 natural
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wtf they have two BIG armies
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holy friggin cow, Much has a ton of damn gateways.
Justin has expanded to the @9 high ground natural and Much is attacking it w/ some carriers
MUCH MOVIES INTO JUSTINS BIG ARMY THING!!
MUCH DOING SERIOUS DAMAGE w/ SPEED ZEALOTS AND STORM
JUSTIN HOOLDS w/ A LARGE AMOUNT LEFTOVER
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Much has been pretty Much outmacroed here.
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much has some of the best protoss micro ive seen in a while
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oMfg much going to lose im gonna be 0/2
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fuckin' A, Justin has TONS of shit and is taking out the @6 natural yet again. I'm not sure much can keep up w/ Justin at this point.
Justin has played JUST GAY ENOUGH to be hugely in the lead at this point
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Hey, where did Much's army go...
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Much attempts to retake a lost expansion at his main's seecond natural, but Justin is there too with his maassive tankk+goliath.
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much has a good amount of goon anyway..
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Much suddenly says "holy shit, i have my own mineral natural" and expands to it
still 7 factories for justin, 3 w/ addon.
Justin kills the shit out of Much's @3 mineral natural. MUCH COUNTER ATTACKS!!!
Much loses 2 carriers needlessly crap crap crap
Much desperately trying to kill the @9 expansion of much
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he has lost two riers -,-,
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Much thinks he cannot take the sieged aarmy oon and sneaks around to kill the expansions. Massive SCV deathh but Justinn is chasinng and destroying the aarmy.
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Crazy crazy counter attack by much thus far, its not exactly working, as justin has an absolute fuck ton of units
Justin easily defends and much is left scampering for his life, very low on units and very low on money
Justin has this game as far as i can tell
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another big clash JUSTIN HAS TONS OF TANKS + LIATHS OMFG MUCH IN TROUBLE
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the sign of a desperate P, dt
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Much just can't find a 4th base here he's about to run out of minerals.
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
this season is not not a good thing to be protoss....
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Much has gone a little bit production facility happy, he has about 15 gateways and 3 carriers, but only 1 running mineral patch (that's running low)
Justin massing up on tanks and goliaths, obviously 33 in upgrades
Much trying AGAIN to expand to a mineral only natural
Justin runs in and kills all of Much's high templar
this is soooooo gaaayy
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Much is runnninng out of options here. Massive mech army vs aa feww DT goon/zeal/carrier
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BIG FIGHT!!
JUSTIN HAS MORE SHIT THAN I CAN COUNT
agh god damnit this game is just totally totally over
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not a good day for carriers today
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ANOTHER BIG CLASH
MUCH IS GOD?!
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OK WAIT WHAT THE FUCK WHAT THE FUCK WHAT THE FUCK??
MUCH KILLED JUSTINS BIG ARM AND HAS CARRIERS LEFTOVER HOW HOW HOW HOW HOW HOW
HOW HOW HOW HOW HOW HOW HOW IN THE FUCK HOW IN THE FUCK IN THE FUCK IN THE FUCK
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very nice def by bulgarian
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Much survives the baattlle but loses his mineral only expand heree, annd his othher expansion iss almost mined out.
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Much is officially mined out at all his major resource centers, but still has 6 carriers alive and kicking (w/ 2 more more on the way!)
Much is going to try to retake his mineral only natural about now
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CA10828 Posts
how the hell did much defend that
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Justin simply has too much shit and Much is just awating death now.
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Justin has a too much big army ....much can't hold a lot..
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much pulled a midas and didnt expand enough
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it doesnt matter he's dead anyway :<
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Carrier squad trying to counter at T's expansion while Justin pushes into Protoss main.
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no way much is winning this..
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UGH if Much wins this, it will be game of the year
Much makes a small amount of dragoons + templar to try to retake control of his mineral only natural
Much is going to try to go for a counter attack on Justin's main expansion! the @9 natural!!
Justin has about 4 tanks and about 22 goliaths
They are just MURDERING Much's main
Much is officially killing Justin's @9, but is obviously low on interceptors
Much is long range mining the @6 mineral natural
Rather than kill the command center, much is killing SCVs and any small amount of goliaths that come up the ramp
CAN YOU TAKE THE HEAT JUSTIN?
CAN YOU TAKE IT?
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1st surprise of the day : gayfrost > much
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I fucking knew much would try some stupid shit and lose this game. Somehow I knew
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Much giving a great display of carrier micro, killing countless goliaths w/ his carrier army.
Justin finally gets enough goliaths to force the carriesrs to run away, but AAGH FUCK Much just lost all his damn probes
GG much types out
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much is just gaying here and there with the riers left...
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Carriers doing a surprisingly laarge amount of damage, taking down a lot of SCV and lone goliath that are tryinng to defend, but as reinforcements arrive the expansion survives and Much types out.
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and its officially a bad night for protoss
much still had some steam going there tho
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On December 28 2006 03:16 sage_francis wrote:
1st surprise of the day : gayfrost > much
1st? what about that 1 other game where the good protoss guy lost to the not so hot TvP player on an imbalance map?
hmm maybe not a surprise, but i'm still bitter :[
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u gotta skate8152 Posts
3 words - WHAT THE FUCK?
0/2 so far
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why all with these stupid riers-____-;...0/2 it's a good day
Ra please i want to see some fuckin cheese rape.
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I'm surprised Much went Carriers, to be honest. Thought he would have gone arbs.
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much vs silver will be awesome
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noooo Much :@:@:@ ==> LB losing streak today
still my hero though ^_^
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Savior vs Pusan
Silver vs much
not looking good for P :[
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On December 28 2006 03:19 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
Savior vs Pusan
Silver vs much
not looking good for P :[
As every season after all...
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seems justin studied much's recent games... because seriously... much is like the anti-timing protoss
he always plays aggressive openings and unit-heavy midgames
justin played almost total defense and it worked perfectly... the dropship failed haha and it was pretty much the only non-defensive thing he did
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What kind of nickname is Justin anyway? Pretty gay imo
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On December 28 2006 03:22 starofNC wrote:
hes an nsync fanboy Does look like he'd fit in with them
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On December 28 2006 03:20 starofNC wrote:
justin played almost total defense and it worked perfectly
Cause he's a turtle pussy
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aaaww, that little korean girl sings like a little angel. Love that commercial 
(too bad they show it like 5 times in a row)
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this msl is going to be a Terran fest
want some coca-cola?
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On December 28 2006 03:25 Zea! wrote:this msl is going to be a Terran fest
well all maps ar terran ones
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Looking forward to the next Match of the day between Nal_ra and Canata
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rA better win, or else -.-;
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I don't see Nal_ra possibly losing this. Anyone agree?
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Cayman Islands24199 Posts
canata is not a pushover..
desert fox was really a gay map. How are the maps chosen for this league i wonder, play testing or just analysis..
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hella depressing if ra loses also
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On December 28 2006 03:29 GoBOXERgogo wrote:
I don't see Nal_ra possibly losing this. Anyone agree?
Canata ftw!
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lol, those intro's alway come with a lot of deathmetal :D
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ra looking very metro today
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On December 28 2006 03:32 Zea! wrote:
if ra loses i cry--,
better start crying now, u'll sleep easier
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I still don't see Ra losing unless Canata does something completely unexpected
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Ok here we go..one of the best(if not the best) protoss against one of the most promising terran for the future..who will win;)?
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I also don't expect Nal_Ra to lose unless Canata does something totally against my expectations.
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Cayman Islands24199 Posts
haha ra with teh sexy 65% ratio.....compared to canata's 100% with so few games..
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Canata got new glasses, phew. The old ones were creepy lookin'.
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vs ALL
nal ra +11 canata +1
for pvt/tvp nal ra is 7-3 + 13 canata is 3-5 -4
The statistics lied last game, but will nal ra simply dominate the Terran who he already outclasses.
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On December 28 2006 03:36 MuShu wrote:
Canata got new glasses, phew. The old ones were creepy lookin'.
Those red thick nerdy glasses?
Damn canata looks so different and cool now haha.
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hmm, obviously ra got more girl fans
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hope ra will not fuck this up like much
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u gotta skate8152 Posts
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Nal_ra's different too. I don't even recognize him.
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On December 28 2006 03:39 exihea wrote:
hmm, obviously ra got more girl fans
xD yeh
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On December 28 2006 03:39 MarcX wrote:xD yeh
I think July has more...
...jk LOL
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OMG He's got BALLZ
Ball mouse o.O; how does he expectt to win with that
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showing kang min cleaning his ball mouse, rofl
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Hmmmm... NalRa jerking off his ball mouse...
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for msl pringles Ra had a funny haircut with small waves ^^
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On December 28 2006 03:41 MarcX wrote:
OMG He's got BALLZ
Ball mouse o.O; how does he expectt to win with that
the same way he won before
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u gotta skate8152 Posts
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whats that thing that they squeeze w/ hands
ive seen it once before
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Some of the really old school gamers still use ball mice. forU said he uses one.
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Ra's mouse is the first logitech model one ^^
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yakii
Korea (South)1448 Posts
ball mouse with no wheel. buy ra a new mouse.
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started!KANG MIN FIGHTING!
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On December 28 2006 03:43 MarcX wrote:
What's so funny?
Nothing... just that a bunch of us who still play a game from 1998 decided to laugh at a guy's outdated technology.
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OMG GAY GAY GAY FUCK GAY FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK SHIT FUCK SHTI FUCK
imbalance positions open
rA @ 6
Canata @9
nice new shades for rA
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strange pilon position for ra :o
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On December 28 2006 03:45 The Storyteller wrote:Nothing... just that a bunch of us who still play a game from 1998 decided to laugh at a guy's outdated technology.
ahahaha golden line : ]
brilliance!
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wow, new glasses for BOTH players
both abandoned the florescently colour rimmed old glasses for newer, more sublte frames
nice nice
oh yeah both are opening normally
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looks like another standard game-,-,
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nal ra has the wierdest base setup
does he search for the oddest places to make pylons?
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rA making his base ultra ultra ultra compact w/ some interesting pylon + gateway + core placement
both players scout the wrong way initially
yaay n' shit
it appears the rA may very well be making dragoons this game
ok well WHAT ELSE DO YOU WANT ME TO SAY O_O
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On December 28 2006 03:42 oshibori_probe wrote:
whats that thing that they squeeze w/ hands
ive seen it once before
Since its cold their hands get cold so the thing they squeeze keeps their hands warm. Some pros just blow on their hands.
6v9 is imba for toss?
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Canata has 1 marine as a spotter for incoming probes.
it appears that Canata is doing some kind of FD opening.
rA has his 1 and nly dragoon at his ramp, hiding the fact that he is adding a 2nd gateway, getting range, and getting a robo
cute build from rA
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nal ra buidings positions is so cool
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canata lost all his marines to ra's goons
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Observatory coming for rA. FD rush very very close to rA's front door. rA has 4 dragoons out to try to stop the rush. Observers are almost out as well....
this is not lookin good for Canata!
well actually its just very very standard so far....
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exp for ra while going with goonsss
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rA starts an expansion
and CANATA starts an expansion
ahahahah rA cleverly goes straight into the middle of the map w/ all his dragoons, side stepping ALL the mines planted by Canata
rA moving into Canata's base w/ 6 dragoons
HAHAH CANATA IS FUCKED OMG AHAHAHAH
rA goes for the jugular! he's moving into Canata's main and OMG WTF RA OMG WTF WTF
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GREAT RA I LOVE YOU
now canata has no more exp
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goons and obs owning canata
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Canata sends 12 SCVs to defend vs the dragoons which are doing an insane amount of damage
god damn this game is absolutely fucking retarded hahaha
reaver bay now finished for rA and Canata is forced to cancel his expansion! HAHAH crazy!
i can't beleive rA pulled that C3 WGT player crap vs Canata that WORKED
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GODLY GOONS BY RAA!!!!!!!!!!!! I LOVE HIM!!!!!!!
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infinity21
Canada6683 Posts
good morning TL~ nal_ra pretty much won
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cool safe transport the goons
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rA's expansion is up and running and Canata is rebuildng his. Canata is also trying to kill off the dragoon troop sitting at his natural
reaver out for rA now
rA is saving his dragoon w/ his fresh new shuttle!
unfortunately, rA now loses the element of surprise tha the once had
rA has saved 4 dragoons thus far... it eaprs...
or maybe he just lost them to mines on the way back hahahah
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great fast attack from ra anyway canata didn't expect it
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ahahahahah yeah rA loses those dragoons to mines as he makes the return trip
Canata making a nice recovery as he finishes setting up his expansion.
WHOAH CANATA ATTACKING?
7 tanks and 4 slow vultures are marching up to rA's front door!
holy crapity crap!
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infinity21
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o man canata going for a contain
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damn it. why dont Canata learn a bit from his Hyung ! His psychological capability is damn poor, always get nervous in stage matches.gg canata is going to loose soon
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turrets building for Canata
WOW SUDDENLY LOOKING REAL DANGEROUS FOR rA!
rA started a starport and a citadel, and canata took full advantage of it, rushing right on in...
AGH REAVER DROP KILLING ALL ZE SCVS!
HOLY SHIT
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infinity21
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REAVERS! poor scvs.
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Canata loses every single SCV that ever existed
rA loses every single UNIT HE HA AT HIS FRONT!!
OMG CLOSE INSANELY CLOSE GAME SO FAR OMG INSANE INSANE INSANE
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CANATA LOST ALL HIS SCV.RA BARELY DEFENDS HIS EXP
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if he defands from this push he wins
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infinity21
Canada6683 Posts
i see 2 tanks and a vult left
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infinity21
Canada6683 Posts
ahh there we go ra breaks the contain
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rA has a big economic lead and BARELY KILLS THE FUCKING PUSH AT HIS FRONT!
Canata sends 3 more tanks and some more vultures
Canata really putting on the pressure w/ this push
DT out for rA
AAHH rA noticed that Canata doesn't have any detection other than turrets
this game looks to be rA's indeed
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infinity21
Canada6683 Posts
canata keeping up the push. he's trying to contain again
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On December 28 2006 03:57 Zea! wrote:
NOOO STREAM DIED
u 2 ?
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Canata trying to make a slowly but surely push, but it is repelled by DTs
O SMART CHOICE!
rA is getting archons!
this is so smart because they don't set off mines!!
rA drops a reaver + DT in Canata's main!
OH SHIT canata is totally fucked n' stuff
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sexiness overload by ra, stream dies
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infinity21
Canada6683 Posts
reaver/dark templar drop at canata's main!
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aaahahah yes yes yes Canata kills off that pesky DT
Canata has to abandon his push at the front
1 carrier morphing now for rA
Oh man i hop Canata can pull some insanely lucky shit and win this game
i just wanna see a really great game
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how are u guys watching it?!!
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infinity21
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canata pulling back his forces, now ra is going for the contain
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no shit STUPID STREAM WHY ON RA'S GAME LET ME SEE IT FUCK FUCK
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Canata seroiusly in low econ crisis mode
rA has 6 gateways and 1 stargate making some carriers
Canata is still running off 2 factories and has only just now finished his academy.
rA has a nice center army
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If you don't have a stream on MBC, maybe try GOM?
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CA10828 Posts
idk about MBCgame but GOMplayer stream still works
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Omg gogogogo stream I want to watch more of Ra's sex0rsss!!!
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infinity21
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fucking stream died on me...
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omg <3 day my love ^^;; bastard stream died but we've got you =D~
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infinity21
Canada6683 Posts
1 reaver 2 dt drop at canata's main again!!
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Sigh... GOM not working for me. Keep up those reports...
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Canata adding more factories, but he's going to need an armory if he wants to be safe
Reaver + DT drop doing some nice damage to Canata's economy.
2 stargates making carriers now
it should be over in just a moment
insane pressure from start to finish. A classic rA style game
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infinity21
Canada6683 Posts
canata successfully defends the drop
one carrier out for nal_ra, another one building.
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i LOVE YOU GOM PLAYER!! FUCK YOU MBC STREAM!
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Day saving the Day once again!
Hi Day, <3!
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u gotta skate8152 Posts
On December 28 2006 04:00 Zea! wrote:
no shit STUPID STREAM WHY ON RA'S GAME LET ME SEE IT FUCK FUCK
Share my pain
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infinity21
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Canata just SEES the carriers and leaves
shit what a morale killing game for Canata
stupid fuckup at the start cost him the whole damn game oof :[
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NOOOO CANATA, Im never betting against Nal_ra again!
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kaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnnggggggggmmmmmiiiiiiinnnnnn!!!!!!!!! =D
the carriers + reavers were sexiness!!! =D
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i'm gonna go read about octopusses
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infinity21
Canada6683 Posts
day, you should be a commentator too =D
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fucking regret for betting on Canata.. gg though, close game
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u gotta skate8152 Posts
Stream died but I'm happy cuz rA won. Yesssssssssssss
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wtf i couldn't see it fuck..i'm so fucking sad ..i go eat fuck i love ra anyway,the real protoss hero!
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HAHAHA to all you non-RA believers.. Woot!
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infinity21
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u gotta skate8152 Posts
On December 28 2006 04:05 Zea! wrote:
wtf i couldn't see it fuck..i'm so fucking sad ..i go eat fuck i love ra anyway,the real protoss hero!
You can download the VOD later from the TL.net's tracker
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day what tab do u use to watch that stream on gom?
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Tell me is light good tvt or bad? Heard of him but since i dont follow pro scene that much anymore.
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On December 28 2006 04:08 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
Tell me is light good tvt or bad? Heard of him but since i dont follow pro scene that much anymore. People's memories usually only span back to the last 2-3 games. I don't even remember him playing a tvt lately
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he played midas yesterday and lost
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
On December 28 2006 04:09 GoBOXERgogo wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2006 04:08 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
Tell me is light good tvt or bad? Heard of him but since i dont follow pro scene that much anymore. People's memories usually only span back to the last 2-3 games. I don't even remember him playing a tvt lately last night vs midas ;;
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infinity21
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LOL shows how bad my memory is. I actually had a mental image in my head of him playing a tvt but couldn't come up with it. how embaressing
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did that... not working :@
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Anyone have his stats on tvt?
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but the other stream is online again!
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Anyone using gomtv know how to view in full screen mode? I don't want to random click and screw something up
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On December 28 2006 04:12 Powerpill wrote:Anyone using gomtv know how to view in full screen mode? I don't want to random click and screw something up
Enter.
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Oh now I remember. When he tried to expo with like 30 CC's. He didn't seem that impressive tvt but midas is a god of it
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GOMTV full screen: alt enter
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xD they just didn't want us to see the end.
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On December 28 2006 04:13 nova_442 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2006 04:12 Powerpill wrote:Anyone using gomtv know how to view in full screen mode? I don't want to random click and screw something up Enter.
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feliz navidad ~~~
come on xellos make me 2/4 at least =(
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I used to click alt+enter because that's the hotkey in Windows Media Player but it's just enter in GOMplayer. alt+enter works too of course.
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
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WTF is xellos' hair? Holy shit
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yakii
Korea (South)1448 Posts
full screen : press 8 or enter key
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light in msl : 0-0 in TvT, 5-0 TvZ, 0-0 PvT
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Xellos look likes an 80 year old grandma. Fucking hair and the boney face..wow
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On December 28 2006 04:16 GoBOXERgogo wrote:
Xellos look likes an 80 year old grandma. Fucking hair and the boney face..wow
and girls love him :O
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infinity21
Canada6683 Posts
Light's TvT 2-8
Xellos' TvT 4-6
if I saw correctly =/
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On December 28 2006 04:17 infinity21 wrote:
Light's TvT 2-8
Xellos' TvT 4-6
if I saw correctly =/
i soo xellos 60% vT
w/e
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infinity21
Canada6683 Posts
o that's just the last 10 games, I believe
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infinity21
Canada6683 Posts
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light on the left and xellos on the right side
map: blitz X
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id say only the last 10 games matter anyway
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xellos killed the scout scv of light in the middle of the map with an epic micro battle
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infinity21
Canada6683 Posts
haha both scout very early
SCV both attack each other!!
Xellos' scv wins~
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AGH CRAP i was watching discovery channel
who is who?
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xellos only use 1 scv on gas, maybe early on pressure with vults and rines
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On December 28 2006 04:23 Day[9] wrote:
AGH CRAP i was watching discovery channel
who is who?
red xellos
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infinity21
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infinity21
Canada6683 Posts
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yaaay i love the discovery channel hahahah
vultures meet int he middle light comes out on top
yeah super light! :D
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this time light wins the 1on1 vulture battle
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holy shit... a VERY sexy picture of xellos
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Xellos 2 fac w/ expand. Light is 1 fac 1 port with cloaking.
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infinity21
Canada6683 Posts
army goign up for xellos. cloaking wraith is discovered
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xellos got his expo running, he got 2 fax and golis soon
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sorry i'm not being a good reportist
light is getting wraiths + cloaking and still w/ 1 factory
xellos is going standard 2 factory into armory
xellos got a MUCH MUCH faster expansion tho
Light is just now starting his factory, whereas xellos already has his finished. Wraith going xellos-wise
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infinity21
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light picking off outlying SCVs w/ his lone wraith
academy finished now for xellos, and light has stopped making wraiths.
comsat done now for xellos and light knows that his party is over :[
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lights wraith harrass only killed a single scv
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infinity21
Canada6683 Posts
did I see 2 wraiths from light??
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xellos already looks to be quite far in the lead
light moving forward w/ 3 tanks right now and seiging on his center high ground area
xellos making many ze tanks and 1 starport
xellos is probably going to win imo!
light starting his center expansion
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infinity21
Canada6683 Posts
startport going up for xellos now
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infinity21
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infinity21
Canada6683 Posts
2 wraiths still harassing xellos' main
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Light scouts around a little bit w/ his wraithsand kills yet another outlying SCV
Xellos scans and spots the seiged tanks on the center high ground
xellos is going to break the shit out of those tanks
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oh wait hahaha no NEVER MIND
light has a bunch of damn tanks all of a sudden
xellos and light obth adding 2 more factories (4 total for both players now)
Light's central expansion is finished now
Xellos still has yet to take a 3rd gas
i don't get TvT
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infinity21
Canada6683 Posts
oh geez light's doing well with wraith harass
it's still anyone's game.
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xellos sieging up at lights 3rd gas
at the divider i mean, he can't hit it yet
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Those 2 pesky wraiths of Light have done a really good job honestly
they have essentially prevented xellos from expanding to the center as light kept picking the little SCV guys off
Xellos seigin up hard at the mineral x in the center
Xellos takes out a turret
ready
set
STALEMATE GAME! :D
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3 drops by light OO;;;! at xellos 3rd gas xellos counters at lights 3rd gas
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infinity21
Canada6683 Posts
light drops on xellos' 2nd expo!!
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Light putting addons to all of his factories now
light dropping xellos center expansion w/ 3 dropships!!
really well timed by light!!
xellos has all his units in the center of the map moving towards LIGHTS CENTER EXPANSION!!
oh shit!!
both players are going to lose their middles maybe....
xellos does some really sloppy shitty control
light trying to defend w/ SCVs n' friends
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nice drop for light not so for xellos
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yeah, light easily kills xellos stuff w/ plenty leftover
ok maybe xellos ISNT going to win this
what do i know anyways i play zerg
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infinity21
Canada6683 Posts
Light takes control of the game!
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light is so going 2 win this :D
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infinity21
Canada6683 Posts
lol day, have you ever considered being a part of the commentator brothers?
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light still pumping units out of SEVEN FACTORIES now... i still only see 4 for xellos. Xellos trying to rebuild a CC to float to the center, but light is really turning up the aggression factor.
Xellos still trying to pull something magical at Light's central expansion, but its locked up tight
Light drops a FUCKTON of tanks on xellos measly 2 tanks and this game is under 5 minutes from over
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lights dominated xellos!!!!! GG light wins!!
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infinity21
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xellos is doomed, 1/4, thank you kang min
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^^ lost my liquibet but i dont care
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err wait
its OVER
GG xellos leaves
light is a bad assssss, his practice really shows
ok so i know nothing about this mu haha :D
ok i gotta goto bed t.t
i feel ill n' stuff
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What the hell happened there?
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infinity21
Canada6683 Posts
light pwned xellos.
oh well, at least I got a point in liquibet
edit: noooo! I voted for Xellos?? wth.. T__T;
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I sure hope this isn't a sign of things to come in the proleague.
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gg's (even though i got shafted on liquibet X.x; ^^;; light + ra <3
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oh great ;]
1/4
and it looked so simple ~~;
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Xellos did a really stupid attack, lost most of his tanks / golies, and then Light walked over him.
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The attack itself wasn't stupid, it was the execution of it that totally sucked.
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
On December 28 2006 04:36 Musli wrote:
oh great ;]
1/4
and it looked so simple ~~; ditto
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for a place in ro8
savior vs pusan ..... --
silver vs muchissimo
bisu vs canata
free vs xellos
CJ in danger~
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
My predictions for next week
savior < pusan
silver > muchissimo
bisu > canata
free > xellos
muhahahaha im crazy
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1/4 ...at least there is KANG MIN!
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3/4 got only much wrong
light, Hawsin and Nal_rA ftw ! =]
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Nal_rA won mvp award.
What are the next games in winners bracket? There are only terrans in winners bracket, that is not bad thing for Ra. We will see how he will do in bo series considering the maps.
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3/4 man, can't believe much loses to justin
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wow i just woke up... and games lasted 6 hours today???
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Cayman Islands24199 Posts
So canata didn't exactly play defensively and got killed, while the terrans taht turtled won...a trend? (yeah i know desert fox was a gay map...)
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u gotta skate8152 Posts
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I go 6/6 for yesterday's OSL but 0/4 here. -_-
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agh...i only got 1 of 4 predictions right...i thought Much, Canata, and XellOs (it sucks cuz i can never vote against him) would take it xP
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I simply hate MSL.
The only one to trust is Hwasin for a good bet.
same here with Xellos: I always vote for him, especialy in a TvT.
1/4
MSL always fucks up my liquibet
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On December 28 2006 12:40 sOnagi wrote:
agh...i only got 1 of 4 predictions right...i thought Much, Canata, and XellOs (it sucks cuz i can never vote against him) would take it xP
I wish XellOs could arise from where he is and be as great as he was in his time...
And its even worse if you consider that XellOs was Winner of WCG 2004 and fOru was Winner of WCG 2005...
XellOs and fOru are Clan Partners on Clan CJ...
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whoa pusan getting READYY
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LOL nal_ra said gg yo at the end of his game |]
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thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
seen a few "gg yo"'s this year from various players.
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United States20661 Posts
does "gg yo" mean different in Korean? Or are Korean progamers just trying to talk gangster?
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ggangpae 
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On December 31 2006 21:42 Last Romantic wrote:
does "gg yo" mean different in Korean? Or are Korean progamers just trying to talk gangster?
I recall that it means respect (ironically).
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u gotta skate8152 Posts
I believe Nal_rA won because he uses a ball mouse and he cleaned it :D.
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well if you put "yo" at the end of korean phrases it is to be respectful. but progamers say it in english to be cool probably.
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