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sscaitournament
Profile Joined January 2011
Czech Republic90 Posts
January 13 2015 17:23 GMT
#1
There is an Artificial Intelligence tournament in Brood War running right now, so check it out!

42 AI bots programmed in C++ and Java by students & programmers around the globe are gonna play 861 games 24/7 over the following 5+ days. Watch the stream or find out some interesting stuff below.

* LIVE Stream (nonstop): http://hitbox.tv/sscaitournament
* SSCAI Tournament web: http://sscaitournament.com/

FlashLight40k
Profile Joined November 2014
United States12 Posts
January 13 2015 20:12 GMT
#2
This is pretty interesting!
The world's oldest StarCraft Brood War player.
FlashLight40k
Profile Joined November 2014
United States12 Posts
January 13 2015 20:21 GMT
#3
The AI needs to learn how to GG! LOL!
The world's oldest StarCraft Brood War player.
Mirabel_
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States1768 Posts
January 13 2015 21:08 GMT
#4
Glad to see some competitive Zerg AI. Seemed to be the weak race in these competitions previously.
get stronger play longer
Mirabel_
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States1768 Posts
January 13 2015 21:11 GMT
#5
Whoa, the stream went offline. Looked like a crash honestly.
get stronger play longer
sscaitournament
Profile Joined January 2011
Czech Republic90 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-13 21:13:52
January 13 2015 21:13 GMT
#6
On January 14 2015 06:11 Mirabel_ wrote:
Whoa, the stream went offline. Looked like a crash honestly.


Don't worry, the virtual machines are restarted automatically after every 10 games, so the stream goes offline intentionally for like two minutes.
nepeta
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
1872 Posts
January 14 2015 00:10 GMT
#7
This is great, will there be vods? It is rather right before getting up time here
Broodwar AI :) http://sscaitournament.com http://www.starcraftai.com/wiki/Main_Page
pangolin123
Profile Joined July 2009
China25 Posts
January 14 2015 05:11 GMT
#8
havn`t seen this for a long while
DrajiK
Profile Joined March 2010
Singapore17 Posts
January 14 2015 05:48 GMT
#9
Zealot rush! :D
sscaitournament
Profile Joined January 2011
Czech Republic90 Posts
January 14 2015 10:07 GMT
#10
On January 14 2015 09:10 nepeta wrote:
This is great, will there be vods? It is rather right before getting up time here

Well, it's running 24 hours a day, but yeah. We'll release all the replays after the competitive phase ends (approx. 5 days from now). If you want to get notified, follow us on Twitter or join our Facebook group:
* Twitter: twitter.com/sscaitournament
* Facebook: facebook.com/groups/bwapi

Also, after the competitive phase, the bots will play 27/7 uncompetitively during the whole year, so you guys have a nonstop stream to watch ;-)
nepeta
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
1872 Posts
January 14 2015 12:29 GMT
#11
That is awesome. I really like the different bots with their own styles. I saw a couple which could only do a 1 base zealot build, but there was one game where both bots took it slow and there were carriers, scouts... Another game I even saw a battle cruiser!
Broodwar AI :) http://sscaitournament.com http://www.starcraftai.com/wiki/Main_Page
sscaitournament
Profile Joined January 2011
Czech Republic90 Posts
January 14 2015 13:06 GMT
#12
On January 14 2015 21:29 nepeta wrote:
That is awesome. I really like the different bots with their own styles. I saw a couple which could only do a 1 base zealot build, but there was one game where both bots took it slow and there were carriers, scouts... Another game I even saw a battle cruiser!

Keep watching and keep an eye on some sick Dragoon or Vulture/Marine micro. Or even Carrier micro (I never thought I'd say those two words in one sentence).
nepeta
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
1872 Posts
January 14 2015 13:44 GMT
#13
I saw one bot who was microing all his units all of the time, got timed out on the >55ms rule :p
Broodwar AI :) http://sscaitournament.com http://www.starcraftai.com/wiki/Main_Page
nepeta
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
1872 Posts
January 14 2015 14:58 GMT
#14
Blogging some battle reports: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/475491-accidental-battle-reporter
Broodwar AI :) http://sscaitournament.com http://www.starcraftai.com/wiki/Main_Page
sscaitournament
Profile Joined January 2011
Czech Republic90 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-14 16:12:07
January 14 2015 15:56 GMT
#15
On January 14 2015 23:58 nepeta wrote:
Blogging some battle reports: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/475491-accidental-battle-reporter

Oh, that's perfect! Gonna read and reshare it all as soon as I get a chance Btw keep an eye on those good bots. The scores are at sscaitournament.com/index.php?action=scoresCompetitive and you can also use this tool to get notified when they play. Keep blogging!
DiMiaN
Profile Joined October 2013
Finland306 Posts
January 14 2015 16:24 GMT
#16
Im waiting for match between (T) Martin Rooijackers vs (P) Tomas Cere. Both undefeated so far!
nepeta
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
1872 Posts
January 14 2015 16:57 GMT
#17
I saw Rooijackers get defeated once, but didn't take any screenshots. His proxy building scv didn't build anything, he lost with 1k mins in the bank...
Broodwar AI :) http://sscaitournament.com http://www.starcraftai.com/wiki/Main_Page
Mirabel_
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States1768 Posts
January 14 2015 18:04 GMT
#18
Love watching Ximp's 2 base carrier get owned by a cute tank push. It's like the strategy was designed to beat Ximp's cabbage patch style.
get stronger play longer
Mirabel_
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States1768 Posts
January 14 2015 18:37 GMT
#19
Rooijackers on deck, get hype
get stronger play longer
nepeta
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
1872 Posts
January 14 2015 18:46 GMT
#20
Where? Current game is stuck at something... ADMIN!
Broodwar AI :) http://sscaitournament.com http://www.starcraftai.com/wiki/Main_Page
sscaitournament
Profile Joined January 2011
Czech Republic90 Posts
January 14 2015 19:26 GMT
#21
On January 15 2015 03:04 Mirabel_ wrote:
Love watching Ximp's 2 base carrier get owned by a cute tank push. It's like the strategy was designed to beat Ximp's cabbage patch style.

It's quite possible that it was. Wouldn't be the first time that someone designed a counter to a specific bot.

On January 15 2015 03:46 nepeta wrote:
Where? Current game is stuck at something... ADMIN!

It's probably not the game's or tournament's fault. The bots sometimes just get stuck in an infinite loop or take too much time on some computation. Then they're just shut down by the system and get a loss. All automated, don't worry
NeThZOR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
South Africa7387 Posts
January 14 2015 19:35 GMT
#22
Very innovative idea!
SuperNova - 2015 | SKT1 fan for years | Dear, FlaSh, PartinG, Soulkey, Naniwa
Mirabel_
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States1768 Posts
January 14 2015 23:14 GMT
#23
drat, I missed Cere vs Rooijackers
get stronger play longer
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10788 Posts
January 14 2015 23:23 GMT
#24
SWEET, Go Protoss Bots
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
LetaBot
Profile Blog Joined June 2014
Netherlands557 Posts
January 14 2015 23:28 GMT
#25
On January 15 2015 01:57 nepeta wrote:
I saw Rooijackers get defeated once, but didn't take any screenshots. His proxy building scv didn't build anything, he lost with 1k mins in the bank...


That was probably in a match before the tournament began. I think/hope that I resolved that issue.


On January 15 2015 08:14 Mirabel_ wrote:
drat, I missed Cere vs Rooijackers



+ Show Spoiler +

LetaBot(Rooijackers) won. See the battle report here and here.

If you cannot win with 100 apm, win with 100 cpm.
sscaitournament
Profile Joined January 2011
Czech Republic90 Posts
January 15 2015 13:00 GMT
#26
341 out of 861 games have been played so far.
Burned Toast *
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada2040 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-15 14:43:43
January 15 2015 14:33 GMT
#27
I just watched a 5 min ZvZ where both AI 4 pooled and played really bad (sending 2 zerglings at a time to static giant ball of opponent zerglings). Most of the AI that I watched would get smashed by any C+ player. Is there any AI match that you recommend?
TvT matchup is sometimes worse than jailtime
nepeta
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
1872 Posts
January 15 2015 14:59 GMT
#28
Klett vs Richoux might be nice, that'll be up soon. Watch out for matches between ICELab, Klett, Krystev, Churchill, Vajda, Cere and Smith. Those are all decent bots.
Broodwar AI :) http://sscaitournament.com http://www.starcraftai.com/wiki/Main_Page
sscaitournament
Profile Joined January 2011
Czech Republic90 Posts
January 15 2015 16:17 GMT
#29
On January 15 2015 23:33 Burned Toast wrote:
I just watched a 5 min ZvZ where both AI 4 pooled and played really bad (sending 2 zerglings at a time to static giant ball of opponent zerglings). Most of the AI that I watched would get smashed by any C+ player. Is there any AI match that you recommend?

Watch those bots what nepeta mentioned. If you wanna get notified when they're sheduled, try this tool.
sscaitournament
Profile Joined January 2011
Czech Republic90 Posts
January 15 2015 23:30 GMT
#30
Guys, hitbox.tv offered us a chance to create some custom emoticons and subscriber badges. Have any ideas? Send them here! (80x80px PNG with transparent background preferred)
art_of_turtle
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
United States1206 Posts
January 16 2015 08:18 GMT
#31
I like all the bot descriptions. Especially the top 5 zergs. gogo Marek Suppa!!
Flash should fear Sacsri
purakushi
Profile Joined August 2012
United States3302 Posts
January 16 2015 14:25 GMT
#32
Super awesome! I have been wanting to try programming my own BW AI one of these days.
T P Z sagi
sscaitournament
Profile Joined January 2011
Czech Republic90 Posts
January 16 2015 15:28 GMT
#33
On January 16 2015 23:25 purakushi wrote:
Super awesome! I have been wanting to try programming my own BW AI one of these days.

Go for it! Start with this tutorial.
ImbaTosS
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom1717 Posts
January 16 2015 15:51 GMT
#34
I'm curious, are the AIs which people submit nowadays predominantly learning and adapting AIs which figure out the best behaviour over 10000's of games? Or do people still keep the limitation of teaching BOs to their AI and certain behaviours to follow for what they scout? I would love to see emergent gameplay from bots which have "learnt" the bet ways to play over tens of thousands of games.
EleGant[AoV]
Lucumo
Profile Joined January 2010
6850 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-16 16:38:22
January 16 2015 16:35 GMT
#35
On January 16 2015 08:30 sscaitournament wrote:
Guys, hitbox.tv offered us a chance to create some custom emoticons and subscriber badges. Have any ideas? Send them here! (80x80px PNG with transparent background preferred)

Well, something like the icons from here would be a good idea.

On January 16 2015 17:18 art_of_turtle wrote:
I like all the bot descriptions. Especially the top 5 zergs. gogo Marek Suppa!!

I currently like Krasimir Krystev the most...but only because the creator was in the chat while I watched ^_^
LetaBot
Profile Blog Joined June 2014
Netherlands557 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-16 17:17:26
January 16 2015 17:04 GMT
#36
On January 17 2015 00:51 ImbaTosS wrote:
I'm curious, are the AIs which people submit nowadays predominantly learning and adapting AIs which figure out the best behaviour over 10000's of games? Or do people still keep the limitation of teaching BOs to their AI and certain behaviours to follow for what they scout? I would love to see emergent gameplay from bots which have "learnt" the bet ways to play over tens of thousands of games.


The bot AIUR, made by Florian Richoux, has the following feature listed on its web-page.

Aiur:
Implement an off-line learning feature: You can now train AIUR against a given opponent and use that learning for further games, like during tournaments.
If you cannot win with 100 apm, win with 100 cpm.
sscaitournament
Profile Joined January 2011
Czech Republic90 Posts
January 16 2015 17:41 GMT
#37
On January 17 2015 00:51 ImbaTosS wrote:
I'm curious, are the AIs which people submit nowadays predominantly learning and adapting AIs which figure out the best behaviour over 10000's of games? Or do people still keep the limitation of teaching BOs to their AI and certain behaviours to follow for what they scout? I would love to see emergent gameplay from bots which have "learnt" the bet ways to play over tens of thousands of games.

Several bots do some learning between the matches. Each learns something different - for example one of them has a neural network just to perfect his cannon rush
Mirabel_
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States1768 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-17 04:18:36
January 17 2015 03:51 GMT
#38
XIMP VS LETABOT LET'S GO

Edit: Okay, that was silly. 2Bunker rush succeeds, wall survives, LetaBot endlessly suicides individual marines and wraiths into two cannons until he's mined out, game goes to 90:00 and the judge calls it in favor of Rooijackers.

THESE ARE THE TOP TWO BOTS.
get stronger play longer
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
January 17 2015 05:45 GMT
#39
I feel like these bots would lose to the normal AI that you can play against in the game
Writerptrk
Lucumo
Profile Joined January 2010
6850 Posts
January 17 2015 06:38 GMT
#40
On January 17 2015 12:51 Mirabel_ wrote:
XIMP VS LETABOT LET'S GO

Edit: Okay, that was silly. 2Bunker rush succeeds, wall survives, LetaBot endlessly suicides individual marines and wraiths into two cannons until he's mined out, game goes to 90:00 and the judge calls it in favor of Rooijackers.

THESE ARE THE TOP TWO BOTS.

Hm, according to the website, Rooijackers lost and he now has 4 losses instead of 3.
LetaBot
Profile Blog Joined June 2014
Netherlands557 Posts
January 17 2015 15:04 GMT
#41
On January 17 2015 15:38 Lucumo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2015 12:51 Mirabel_ wrote:
XIMP VS LETABOT LET'S GO

Edit: Okay, that was silly. 2Bunker rush succeeds, wall survives, LetaBot endlessly suicides individual marines and wraiths into two cannons until he's mined out, game goes to 90:00 and the judge calls it in favor of Rooijackers.

THESE ARE THE TOP TWO BOTS.

Hm, according to the website, Rooijackers lost and he now has 4 losses instead of 3.


That error has been corrected.
If you cannot win with 100 apm, win with 100 cpm.
Lucumo
Profile Joined January 2010
6850 Posts
January 17 2015 16:14 GMT
#42
On January 18 2015 00:04 LetaBot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2015 15:38 Lucumo wrote:
On January 17 2015 12:51 Mirabel_ wrote:
XIMP VS LETABOT LET'S GO

Edit: Okay, that was silly. 2Bunker rush succeeds, wall survives, LetaBot endlessly suicides individual marines and wraiths into two cannons until he's mined out, game goes to 90:00 and the judge calls it in favor of Rooijackers.

THESE ARE THE TOP TWO BOTS.

Hm, according to the website, Rooijackers lost and he now has 4 losses instead of 3.


That error has been corrected.

Oh, ok.

ICELab vs Krasimir Krystev actually happened? The stream wouldn't load, so I thought it was down.
LetaBot
Profile Blog Joined June 2014
Netherlands557 Posts
January 17 2015 16:17 GMT
#43
On January 18 2015 01:14 Lucumo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2015 00:04 LetaBot wrote:
On January 17 2015 15:38 Lucumo wrote:
On January 17 2015 12:51 Mirabel_ wrote:
XIMP VS LETABOT LET'S GO

Edit: Okay, that was silly. 2Bunker rush succeeds, wall survives, LetaBot endlessly suicides individual marines and wraiths into two cannons until he's mined out, game goes to 90:00 and the judge calls it in favor of Rooijackers.

THESE ARE THE TOP TWO BOTS.

Hm, according to the website, Rooijackers lost and he now has 4 losses instead of 3.


That error has been corrected.

Oh, ok.

ICELab vs Krasimir Krystev actually happened? The stream wouldn't load, so I thought it was down.


It did. Hitbox is currently unavailable for 360p and 480p. Go to source (510p) quality and it will work.
If you cannot win with 100 apm, win with 100 cpm.
Lucumo
Profile Joined January 2010
6850 Posts
January 17 2015 16:37 GMT
#44
On January 18 2015 01:17 LetaBot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2015 01:14 Lucumo wrote:
On January 18 2015 00:04 LetaBot wrote:
On January 17 2015 15:38 Lucumo wrote:
On January 17 2015 12:51 Mirabel_ wrote:
XIMP VS LETABOT LET'S GO

Edit: Okay, that was silly. 2Bunker rush succeeds, wall survives, LetaBot endlessly suicides individual marines and wraiths into two cannons until he's mined out, game goes to 90:00 and the judge calls it in favor of Rooijackers.

THESE ARE THE TOP TWO BOTS.

Hm, according to the website, Rooijackers lost and he now has 4 losses instead of 3.


That error has been corrected.

Oh, ok.

ICELab vs Krasimir Krystev actually happened? The stream wouldn't load, so I thought it was down.


It did. Hitbox is currently unavailable for 360p and 480p. Go to source (510p) quality and it will work.

Thanks, but that's something my internet connection can't handle :/
LetaBot
Profile Blog Joined June 2014
Netherlands557 Posts
January 17 2015 20:27 GMT
#45
On January 18 2015 01:37 Lucumo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2015 01:17 LetaBot wrote:
On January 18 2015 01:14 Lucumo wrote:
On January 18 2015 00:04 LetaBot wrote:
On January 17 2015 15:38 Lucumo wrote:
On January 17 2015 12:51 Mirabel_ wrote:
XIMP VS LETABOT LET'S GO

Edit: Okay, that was silly. 2Bunker rush succeeds, wall survives, LetaBot endlessly suicides individual marines and wraiths into two cannons until he's mined out, game goes to 90:00 and the judge calls it in favor of Rooijackers.

THESE ARE THE TOP TWO BOTS.

Hm, according to the website, Rooijackers lost and he now has 4 losses instead of 3.


That error has been corrected.

Oh, ok.

ICELab vs Krasimir Krystev actually happened? The stream wouldn't load, so I thought it was down.


It did. Hitbox is currently unavailable for 360p and 480p. Go to source (510p) quality and it will work.

Thanks, but that's something my internet connection can't handle :/


360p and 480p are back now
If you cannot win with 100 apm, win with 100 cpm.
Lucumo
Profile Joined January 2010
6850 Posts
January 18 2015 15:21 GMT
#46
Gratz to Martin Rooijackers and Tomas Vajda for tied 1st place.

Hopefully, I won't miss the top 8 bracket...
LetaBot
Profile Blog Joined June 2014
Netherlands557 Posts
January 18 2015 15:44 GMT
#47
Once the replays are released, I will sort through them and highlight several replays.
In the mean time I will set up some Bot vs itself matches (for example: ICELab vs ICElab) and put the link to the replays here
If you cannot win with 100 apm, win with 100 cpm.
nepeta
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
1872 Posts
January 18 2015 17:53 GMT
#48
GG LetaBot, glorious victory for the Netherlands && Looking forward to the bot mirror matches.

LetaBot vs XIMP seems to have been a bit of a let-down... bad PR for the AI competition.

Krasi (from the Krasibot, tournament organiser) is planning a top 8 tournament. He's looking for casters for that. Perhaps I will do it if I can get winxp in a vm on my 6 year old linux pc, but that won't be easy :p
Broodwar AI :) http://sscaitournament.com http://www.starcraftai.com/wiki/Main_Page
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
January 18 2015 20:13 GMT
#49
I've quite enjoyed the tournament, found myself surprised by amount of the memorable "personalities" present.
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
LetaBot
Profile Blog Joined June 2014
Netherlands557 Posts
January 19 2015 01:22 GMT
#50
Bot vs Bot mirror matches:

I managed to run some bots versus versions of themself.
I haven't yet set up the BWAPI correctly on the other PC, so WOPR,Skynet and Black White have not been run yet.
If someone want to see those as well, mention it in this topic.

IceBot vs IceBot:
http://repdepot.net/replay.php?id=56201

Krasi0 vs Krasi0:
http://repdepot.net/replay.php?id=56202

LetaBot vs LetaBot:
http://repdepot.net/replay.php?id=56203

UAlbertaBot vs UAlbertaBot:
http://repdepot.net/replay.php?id=56204

Ximp vs Ximp:
http://repdepot.net/replay.php?id=56205
If you cannot win with 100 apm, win with 100 cpm.
krasi0
Profile Joined March 2014
Germany21 Posts
January 19 2015 11:56 GMT
#51
Maybe this info now becomes a bit redundant, but make sure you don't miss out the commented youtube videos for the Top 8 bracket, which will be publushed on this channel http://www.youtube.com/user/certicky/
To whett your appetite, this is the final game from last year:


LetaBot
Profile Blog Joined June 2014
Netherlands557 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-01 00:40:24
January 01 2020 00:40 GMT
#52
Another year, another season of the SSCAI starting. Watch it live on:

https://www.twitch.tv/sscait
If you cannot win with 100 apm, win with 100 cpm.
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