What is this? Welcome to the D Ranks Team League Season 6!
This is a for fun team league for players in the D ranks. This time around, for TRUE D ranks.No players that have hit C- or above at any point will be allowed. Players that do not ladder will be judged subjectively on a case by case basis by committee of L_Master et al.
When? I'm hoping the league will start sometime around the beginning of April, but that is subject to change depending on how long it takes to get teams together. I expect this will take longer as many of the players from previous DRTL's are no longer eligible. Match time will be: 2:00 KST/ 10:00 PST /13:00 EDT / 18:00 BST and takes place every Saturday. It will have a regular season of 10 weeks with the top 4 teams advancing to the playoffs.
Where? The tournament will be held in channel op DRTL on the iCCup server.
How to watch: L_Master will be casting sometimes, other casters that are interested please indicate your interest and I can add you to the list http://www.twitch.tv/l_master
Format:
The season will consist of two 7 week rounds, culminating in a PO following the conclusion of round 2. The first 3 weeks of round 2 will feature a Bo5 "All Kill" format, the other 11 weeks teams will play a normal bo5 with no ace match. Lineups will be released 48 hours prior to match time, and the selected players will play a bo1 to decide the outcome for that map. First to team to win three maps wins the match.
Rules: If you have an issue during match time please contact sGs.LMaster on iCCup to resolve it.
No excessive BMing. Manner CCs, Hatcheries and Nexii, as well as pylon hearts, nukes and infested terrans however, are encouraged.
Winning team sends replays to drits5@yahoo.com following the matches. All 5 replays must be put into one zip/compressed file for download
Winning team's captain must PM me the result of their match.
Standard ICCUP rules apply.
No excessive chatting, e.g. do not be distracting during the middle of the game.
If players are race pickers they must announce their races within 12 hours of the lineups getting posted.
Players need to identify which team they are playing with in their profile during match time.
Players must play using the ID they used to sign up.
Games must be played on the maps listed in the schedule.
Games may be postponed between players IF the postponement is scheduled at least 12 hours ahead of the match time and both captain were notified.
Maps must come from the latest ICCUP mappack.
If a player disconnects in the first three minutes then a regame will be granted. If the same player disconnects again they will be d/q. Any disconnect after three minutes will be reviewed by sGs.LMaster unless one of the players willingly forfeits.
Race picking will be allowed, but if you pick to play a certain race on a given day, you must continue playing that race throughout the whole day. You will only be allowed to change your race for the next week. For the purposes of this league, random will not be allowed.
iykguil (sB.i91) MinscandBoo phamchienthang[v] (azaruth, D+) Ruypture (D+) AnachronisticAnarchy / ? BigFan (golden_phoenix, D) Falling (sb.Passafist, D) Currently inactive: ikan (sB.ikan, D+) Roy afk shearRZerg (sheaR, D+) not available during the summer CecilSunkure (sb.Cecil)
Lineups are due the Thursday, Mar 06 6:59am GMT (GMT+00:00). If you are confused about this, or don't trust it; that is 59 hours prior to the DRTL match time.
Replays are due for submission to drits5@yahoo.com following the matches on Saturday, Mar 08 5:59am GMT (GMT+00:00). Again, since days/time may be blurred by time zones, this is 157 hours after the weeks DRTL scheduled match time. Winning team is responsible for sending in replays in the form of a SINGLE zip folder containing all played games.
PPed games must be played no later than Friday, Mar 07 5:59am GMT (GMT+00:00) following the standard DRTL match time (133 hours after scheduled time). If players cannot find a time to play, the case may be brought before LMaster who will make a final ruling.
Warning Regarding Addendum
There is ZERO tolerance this season on failure to follow these rules. A lineup that is between 1 second and 12 hours late will receive a two set loss. A lineup late than 12 hours after the submission deadline will result in that team forfeiting the match.
The same goes for replays, failure to submit replays in a SINGLE zip folder will result in a 1 set penalty for every 12 hours in which they are not submitted, or incorrectly submitted. More than 24 hours late will result in a forfit of the match.
I repeat again, there is ZERO tolerance. Don't lose matches from a failure to read, and clarify with myself if you have ANY questions concerning this.
Just posting to say that DeSPA are also looking for players since after last season we lost one to him moving up, someone quit the game entirely and one of our newer members just dissapeared so any new signups are welcome <3
Yup, I will be switching to zerg since seems to be a shortage of those filthy rascals. If there ends being enough of them I'll be switching back to protoss or who knows, with the race picking allowance may be end playing all 3 races. But for now, zerg it is.
Also, I would like to ask, if there needs to be a new emerging team, to be fielded to that team, as I would like to try on management.
After having a chat with LMaster and other board members TAKK has officially signed me. Apart from that I am not allowed to disclose any further details of our contract, especially the fame, pussy and money I will be swimming in.
On March 01 2014 23:28 HeaDStrong wrote: After having a chat with LMaster and other board members TAKK has officially signed me. Apart from that I am not allowed to disclose any further details of our contract, especially the fame, pussy and money I will be swimming in.
I took a look at what you two agreed on, and other than a meager one additional game signing bonus, all you signed on for is to be criticized by greenelve. Tsk tsk....
On March 01 2014 23:28 HeaDStrong wrote: After having a chat with LMaster and other board members TAKK has officially signed me. Apart from that I am not allowed to disclose any further details of our contract, especially the fame, pussy and money I will be swimming in.
I took a look at what you two agreed on, and other than a meager one additional game signing bonus, all you signed on for is to be criticized by greenelve. Tsk tsk....
On March 01 2014 23:28 HeaDStrong wrote: After having a chat with LMaster and other board members TAKK has officially signed me. Apart from that I am not allowed to disclose any further details of our contract, especially the fame, pussy and money I will be swimming in.
I took a look at what you two agreed on, and other than a meager one additional game signing bonus, all you signed on for is to be criticized by greenelve. Tsk tsk....
On March 01 2014 23:28 HeaDStrong wrote: After having a chat with LMaster and other board members TAKK has officially signed me. Apart from that I am not allowed to disclose any further details of our contract, especially the fame, pussy and money I will be swimming in.
I took a look at what you two agreed on, and other than a meager one additional game signing bonus, all you signed on for is to be criticized by greenelve. Tsk tsk....
On March 01 2014 23:28 HeaDStrong wrote: After having a chat with LMaster and other board members TAKK has officially signed me. Apart from that I am not allowed to disclose any further details of our contract, especially the fame, pussy and money I will be swimming in.
I took a look at what you two agreed on, and other than a meager one additional game signing bonus, all you signed on for is to be criticized by greenelve. Tsk tsk....
Na he signed up for TAKK to be turned into a man
But you are the byproduct of all that is not a man...
YoYo! I would like to play for The Khan for this season as well! Iccup nick: iiN.Mrkopp , [mps]kopp , Rank 1v1: d+ (kinda) , Race: Terran or zerg, (will depend on team composition)
On March 02 2014 23:59 MoreAndMMore wrote: I can i join? Nick MoreandMore Rank: C- 2000 year befor christ race:z
Sorry, but no. The league is strictly D-/D/D+.
I know you might be only D+ in skill right now, but the issue here is that former C- players that have been allowed in the past quickly regain there skill if they begin to practice even a bit.
On March 03 2014 06:08 LTY wrote: wait so for this time, i cant participate? I would like to participate with my terran, and last time i participated as zerg for drtl 5, i went 2-3.
EDIT: Made a new ICCUP ID because too many people were confusing me with ICCUP_Tesla and I was always thinking of making a new ID. Since new season started just recently, I took this opportunity to make a new ID
Old ID (To review ICCUP ladder history): Saint_Tesla
On March 01 2014 23:28 HeaDStrong wrote: After having a chat with LMaster and other board members TAKK has officially signed me. Apart from that I am not allowed to disclose any further details of our contract, especially the fame, pussy and money I will be swimming in.
I took a look at what you two agreed on, and other than a meager one additional game signing bonus, all you signed on for is to be criticized by greenelve. Tsk tsk....
Na he signed up for TAKK to be turned into a man
But you are the byproduct of all that is not a man...
Oh my god, I nearly spit out all over my keyboard.
On March 01 2014 23:28 HeaDStrong wrote: After having a chat with LMaster and other board members TAKK has officially signed me. Apart from that I am not allowed to disclose any further details of our contract, especially the fame, pussy and money I will be swimming in.
I took a look at what you two agreed on, and other than a meager one additional game signing bonus, all you signed on for is to be criticized by greenelve. Tsk tsk....
Na he signed up for TAKK to be turned into a man
But you are the byproduct of all that is not a man...
Me and Lmaster are men who are now the gatekeepers for TAKK and you ready to have our teams duke it out in the C ranks? See ya there
These are the players we have as I know them. Any previous DeSPIANS looking to play there part in this war PM me or Qikz or Skype msg us
I'll say this about recruitment, If anyone signs up as a free agent. I URGE the captains too wait until ALL free agents are know and then split them fairly and not chase then with PM's. Kinda like last year but smoother.
I have no problem (yea right) with Teams finding players in-game or while laddering etc. but sniping free agents is dependent on time available to the recruiters and we're not equal with this.
With this in-mind as the season continues, I think. Any free agents should be added to a weekly(bi-weekly depending on numbers) list and captains can then split them in the Skype chat.
These are the players we have as I know them. Any previous DeSPIANS looking to play there part in this war PM me or Qikz or Skype msg us
I'll say this about recruitment, If anyone signs up as a free agent. I URGE the captains too wait until ALL free agents are know and then split them fairly and not chase then with PM's. Kinda like last year but smoother.
I have no problem (yea right) with Teams finding players in-game or while laddering etc. but sniping free agents is dependent on time available to the recruiters and we're not equal with this.
With this in-mind as the season continues, I think. Any free agents should be added to a weekly(bi-weekly depending on numbers) list and captains can then split them in the Skype chat.
Here's to a fair season!!!
Slàinte
AA
Edit: more players
Perhaps we need a KeSPA-esque governing body to keep control of stuff like this.
I'd also like to point out the DRPP ("drip") program. It's for people who want to join DRTL but can't because of time commitments. It's like DRTL for casuals! You can sign up for that here.
The draft is going to happen March 15th, and I'll need captains of all the teams (or proxies) available at the same time to run the practice partners draft. When all the captains are known we could possibly schedule a better time for that if the 15th isn't the best for everyone.
Edit: Perhaps also it would be possible to include C- and better players in the DRPP draft, with the exception that they would not be able to commit to a DRTL team. Let me know your thoughts on that in the DRPP topic.
On March 05 2014 07:11 arb wrote: I have a broken arm can i sign up mouse only as Protoss? t.t
nice try
its sad cuz mu arm is actually broken haha.
Video or it didnt happen
i have pix atleast lol
dont actually wanna play tho
When are you heading off to the military?
I can't now. Was supposed to be the 25th of this month.
Really? Are you Army? I actually have a friend who was going to head off to boot camp on the 25th in Virginia, though he's trying to join the Air Force.
On March 05 2014 07:11 arb wrote: I have a broken arm can i sign up mouse only as Protoss? t.t
nice try
its sad cuz mu arm is actually broken haha.
Video or it didnt happen
i have pix atleast lol
dont actually wanna play tho
When are you heading off to the military?
I can't now. Was supposed to be the 25th of this month.
Really? Are you Army? I actually have a friend who was going to head off to boot camp on the 25th in Virginia, though he's trying to join the Air Force.
Yes, Virginia is usually officer training schools iirc. since army is : oklahoma,georgia,south carolina and arkansas, marines san diego and parris island sc, navy chicago and airforce is texas i believe.
On March 06 2014 02:25 amazingxkcd wrote: Sun Khan's current lineup:
Xkcd (Zerg) Pebble (Terran) Kopp (Zerg/Terran, not sure of his final race)
Oh boy, all the powerhouse teams have gotten small :/
Well I guess for the rule to take effect this was almost certainly one of the side effects. In the long run I think it's better for the players who want to join in as newer players but don't want to lose all the time, but it's somewhat a detrement as well as some of the better people they could practice with are obviously either moved up or stopped playing now.
Hopefully most of the teams'll be able to either fill out their roster or sub in some players from that other thread. Either way there's exciting times ahead :o
All captains, if you would please PM me about whether you can show up to the Practice Partners draft on Saturday, Mar 15 5:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00), I would be grateful! If you can't show up, let me know a good time frame where you can, or let someone else pick for you. The players you draft will join your team as a practice partner, but they will not be able to play in regular DRTL matches until later. Keep in mind the switch to Daylight Saving Time on Mar 9.
On March 07 2014 07:26 hp.Shell wrote: All captains, if you would please PM me about whether you can show up to the Practice Partners draft on Saturday, Mar 15 5:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00), I would be grateful! If you can't show up, let me know a good time frame where you can, or let someone else pick for you. The players you draft will join your team as a practice partner, but they will not be able to play in regular DRTL matches until later. Keep in mind the switch to Daylight Saving Time on Mar 9.
I think there are only like 3 captains right now, so having any sort of draft at this point might be premature.
On March 07 2014 07:26 hp.Shell wrote: All captains, if you would please PM me about whether you can show up to the Practice Partners draft on Saturday, Mar 15 5:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00), I would be grateful! If you can't show up, let me know a good time frame where you can, or let someone else pick for you. The players you draft will join your team as a practice partner, but they will not be able to play in regular DRTL matches until later. Keep in mind the switch to Daylight Saving Time on Mar 9.
I think there are only like 3 captains right now, so having any sort of draft at this point might be premature.
Then I'll wait and we can play it by ear. Thanks for letting me know.
I think Stealth Bunnies might be able to field a half roster. But we need to decide a new captain because Birdie is stepping down.
I would guess we'd have you, bigfan, minscandboo, roy, noddy, seabook/sawamura, and MAYBE stratos and LCC but unlikely [06/03/2014 2:13:26 AM] Birdie: I'm not sure about stael/kerpal
This was Birdie's guess on who would be back, but I haven't actually seen them confirm anything recently.
On March 10 2014 04:07 Psyonic_Reaver wrote: I may have time to get back into this. I'll update this post later in the week. I have school finals coming up next week.
Unfortunately, anyone who has gotten C- or above, ever, isn't allowed to play anymore.
I'd like to create a team (we played in one of the first seasons, but haven't played since then) Team Name: Manner Hatch Players: Wobulator Yokipi Funkmaster
We might be able to get another few people, or maybe will have to have a few free agents. We're all looking forward to this!
On March 11 2014 04:32 EchOne wrote: That poor Terran base ;;
The Terran deserved it, playing on Battle Royal. Not only was the Terran scum for playing Terran, but they were dumb/unforgivably unlucky for playing on Battle Royal.
On March 11 2014 01:51 Wobulator wrote: I'd like to create a team (we played in one of the first seasons, but haven't played since then) Team Name: Manner Hatch Players: Wobulator Yokipi Funkmaster
We might be able to get another few people, or maybe will have to have a few free agents. We're all looking forward to this!
Funkmaster was solid C- with 50% win percentage, why are you signing him up for a D Ranks League?
Also unless Yokipi is someone who has never played a ladder game of broodwar you better provide an alt account.
On March 11 2014 01:51 Wobulator wrote: I'd like to create a team (we played in one of the first seasons, but haven't played since then) Team Name: Manner Hatch Players: Wobulator Yokipi Funkmaster
We might be able to get another few people, or maybe will have to have a few free agents. We're all looking forward to this!
Funkmaster was solid C- with 50% win percentage, why are you signing him up for a D Ranks League?
Also unless Yokipi is someone who has never played a ladder game of broodwar you better provide an alt account.
No idea who Funkmaster is, but both Yokipi and Wobulator are legit D/D+ players. They both played in the D-Ranks AllKill Team league 2 years ago and we were all on the same team.
Edit: They're just friends amongst themselves in real life, which is provably why they don't necessarily ladder a ton
So I posted in the DRPP thread, because I didn't know there were going to be free agents (It is still possible I won't be free every weekend), but I would like to play if a team needs another player. I also tried laddering a bit last night and am having an awful time keeping out of D-, so my original estimate of my current rank may have been overly optimistic
On March 11 2014 01:51 Wobulator wrote: I'd like to create a team (we played in one of the first seasons, but haven't played since then) Team Name: Manner Hatch Players: Wobulator Yokipi Funkmaster
We might be able to get another few people, or maybe will have to have a few free agents. We're all looking forward to this!
Funkmaster was solid C- with 50% win percentage, why are you signing him up for a D Ranks League?
Also unless Yokipi is someone who has never played a ladder game of broodwar you better provide an alt account.
No idea who Funkmaster is, but both Yokipi and Wobulator are legit D/D+ players. They both played in the D-Ranks AllKill Team league 2 years ago and we were all on the same team.
Edit: They're just friends amongst themselves in real life, which is provably why they don't necessarily ladder a ton
I just checked iccup account and funkmaster had a 3500 C- with 50% win rate.
Funkmaster is also our real life friend. Unfortunately, he hasn't even created an account (that's how new he is), and Funkmaster is the normal handle he goes by. We didn't know that there was another "Funkmaster", so I guess he'll have to pick a new name. I'll get back to you guys when he picks another name.
Since all the teams are posting on this page I can confirm DeSPA is still in the same situation as last week.
AtomicArchon Jellokitty Qikz
AA is the captain although he listed me as one as well so I guess I can help him out. Not sure how many teams that leaves us with in the league so far, but hopefully we'll be able to sort everyone out so they get a full team. ^^
But seriously i dont see a problem with just having all players play each other at least once in a match. For example in Despa vs SB. AtomicArchon vs MinscandBoo AtomicArchon vs Roy AtomicArchon vs Falling Qikz vs MinscandBoo Qikz vs Roy Qikz vs Falling Jellokitty vs MinscandBoo Jellokitty vs Roy Jellokitty vs Falling Kinda turning it into a BO9. It would be longer and preparation would be for everything, but if you guys can agree to playing more games on a smaller roster it wouldn't be too bad. EDIT: Now that i think about it, it would take just about the same amount of time for just the ICCUP Clan league cause players play BO3 anyways. A little bit of organization between the teams and it could work out.
On March 14 2014 00:24 traceurling wrote: Seeing as all the noticeably stronger players are graduated, an all kill wouldn't be unfair
Sadly all kill creates way to many problems. Namely that you have to be there on time and must wait around, and for many BW players who are college or post collegiate that just isn't reasonable to ask.
Well there are also a few free agents that can fill out our rosters a bit. One way to fill out a best of 5 with smaller teams would be to use the 5th game as an 'ace match' Basically have one of our players play twice for the final game?
On March 14 2014 00:24 traceurling wrote: Seeing as all the noticeably stronger players are graduated, an all kill wouldn't be unfair
O.o If anything, that would promote people playing for an All-kill format even more, since they wouldn't end up being so discouraged if they were to play someone that was significantly better than them, it'd make for a level playing field.
Pretty sure I'd rather see Passafist vs Qikz rather than Passafist vs Echo in an all-kill series.
But yes, as Lmaster pointed out, the attendance has to be top-notch and there has to be a lot of available players for it to work out. DRATL worked out well since I think there were so many players that played and it had very few amount of walkovers as compared to DRTL Season 4 and 5.
I'm opposed to the winner's league(all-kill) format. It is fun to watch on the highest levels but this being a newbie practice type of league... I don't see the point.
It will be hard to implement smoothly due to the frequent postponements of games and the prolonged duration of all-kill series in comparison to regular series might cause even more postponements even further complicating things.
Second point is that this being somewhat a practice/newbie league we should promote playing over winning. I think it is less important who wins a match but rather to get as many players playing broodwar as possible. An all-kill format can in the extreme case have only half of the participant numbers compared to a classic series format.
Personally, I think games will be better if people know the map/opponent they'll play beforehand. I know that personally I'd prefer to prepare a build for a matchup, study the map, etc. rather than wondering if I'll get to play a good matchup/map or have to play 1 game or save the team and play 3 in a row lol.
even if they aren't better games per se, they might at least have some more interesting results.
Unfortunately, our team (Manner Hatch) looks like it'll have to pull out. We actually all have a class at the same time on Saturday morning. Good luck!
On March 01 2014 13:01 phamchienthang[V] wrote: Free agent. iccup id: azaruth, phamchienthang race: Z max rank: D+ Is it ok if I postpone most of my match because play time is 0am in vietnam?
On March 01 2014 20:56 Golondrin wrote: I'm in.
Iccup ID: Golondrin Max Rank: D+ Race: Z I would like to ask, if there needs to be a new emerging team, to be fielded to that team, as I would like to try on management.
On March 03 2014 10:33 Fakie wrote: Yes! Count me in!
EDIT: Made a new ICCUP ID because too many people were confusing me with ICCUP_Tesla and I was always thinking of making a new ID. Since new season started just recently, I took this opportunity to make a new ID
Old ID (To review ICCUP ladder history): Saint_Tesla
On March 04 2014 10:32 ikan wrote: Iccup name: ikantreed max rank: D/D+ Race: Terran
I work 3rd shift EST time so some of my matches will have to be postponed a few hours, I hope this is not a problem, thanks
On March 05 2014 20:24 Reuental wrote: Sounds like a lot of fun, plus motivation for practice
ICCup Name: Reuental Race: Zerg Max Rank: D+ in 2009 or something, now D
On March 06 2014 00:29 SilverJohnny wrote: hmmmm, play brood war with true gosus or work harder on law school? I know my choice, free agency it is!
ICCup Name: [Y]ermiaN Race: Terran Max Rank: uhhhh I hit D+ on a different account like... 3 years ago maybe? D- now though
Also, note to Wobulator - Manner Hatch can still be incorporated. If the entire team cannot play either we can alter the DRTL time/day, or just have it be known that all games vs MH will be pped
Or maybe Woublator-Manner hatch can merge with another team- and when those particular players are designated to play, just pp the match-ups. Birdie pp'd every single one of his matches last season and I think there was another New Zealander or some sort that did the same on our team.
On April 02 2014 11:06 Falling wrote: Or maybe Woublator-Manner hatch can merge with another team- and when those particular players are designated to play, just pp the match-ups. Birdie pp'd every single one of his matches last season and I think there was another New Zealander or some sort that did the same on our team.
You mean sB.Noddy? Also, the Zbigneff dude is a guy called Sinedd, who got himself banned from Teamliquid for whatever reason. He tried to sign up for the last season or the season before of DRIT and I believe Harem figured out who he was and banned him.
So he is. I saw the mod note wondering about a second chance or not, but didn't bother to click on the other account linked. So in probability he won't be available, unless the mod note is resolved in his favour. Unlikely given he has made 3 alt accounts or more since being perm'd rather than waiting it out.
On April 02 2014 11:37 Falling wrote: So he is. I saw the mod note wondering about a second chance or not, but didn't bother to click on the other account linked. So in probability he won't be available, unless the mod note is resolved in his favour. Unlikely given he has made 3 alt accounts or more since being perm'd rather than waiting it out.
So that makes 6 free agents.
Sinnedd is poison to this league, cheated in that one with C rank players and he's a total douchebag at that.
On March 01 2014 13:01 phamchienthang[V] wrote: Free agent. iccup id: azaruth, phamchienthang race: Z max rank: D+ Is it ok if I postpone most of my match because play time is 0am in vietnam?
On March 01 2014 20:56 Golondrin wrote: I'm in.
Iccup ID: Golondrin Max Rank: D+ Race: Z I would like to ask, if there needs to be a new emerging team, to be fielded to that team, as I would like to try on management.
On March 03 2014 10:33 Fakie wrote: Yes! Count me in!
EDIT: Made a new ICCUP ID because too many people were confusing me with ICCUP_Tesla and I was always thinking of making a new ID. Since new season started just recently, I took this opportunity to make a new ID
Old ID (To review ICCUP ladder history): Saint_Tesla
On March 04 2014 10:32 ikan wrote: Iccup name: ikantreed max rank: D/D+ Race: Terran
I work 3rd shift EST time so some of my matches will have to be postponed a few hours, I hope this is not a problem, thanks
On March 05 2014 20:24 Reuental wrote: Sounds like a lot of fun, plus motivation for practice
ICCup Name: Reuental Race: Zerg Max Rank: D+ in 2009 or something, now D
On March 06 2014 00:29 SilverJohnny wrote: hmmmm, play brood war with true gosus or work harder on law school? I know my choice, free agency it is!
ICCup Name: [Y]ermiaN Race: Terran Max Rank: uhhhh I hit D+ on a different account like... 3 years ago maybe? D- now though
Thing is, the entire dealeo at the beginning of this season is that D ranks are now going to be pure D ranks, not people that C on their main and then haven't played for a couple months. Pretty sure it shouldn't take that long to get back up to C-.
I suspect it's like the Maroon League. Only it would be the... Orange League? It's a shame there aren't more players because these gradations are actually realistic in how large the skill difference is between each category, but there are only so many players.
On April 13 2014 15:29 hp.Shell wrote: How many players would be interested in a C-RTL.. with a C- maxrank?
Just to clarify...a teamleauge for C Rank players with C- max, which means the range goes from C- to C-?
...or do you mean E to C-? Or just C- to C+ as CRTL?
I'd assume E-C-? or something. The skill difference in CRTL is pretty retarded tbh, most C- players dont stand a chance against i'd say 80% of the players that participate, which is a similar thing as DRTL honestly.
I was talking a teamleague for players who are C- and have never been higher. Maybe there's a midway point between C and C+ we could use as the cutoff instead?
I like the DRTL as a place for new players... it wouldn't feel right if C- were allowed in. So this new league would be for C- to perhaps mid C players, based either on visible rank (C being too high) or something like a 500 mark to make the pool big enough but the skill gaps smaller.
On April 14 2014 10:23 hp.Shell wrote: I was talking a teamleague for players who are C- and have never been higher. Maybe there's a midway point between C and C+ we could use as the cutoff instead?
I like the DRTL as a place for new players... it wouldn't feel right if C- were allowed in. So this new league would be for C- to perhaps mid C players, based either on visible rank (C being too high) or something like a 500 mark to make the pool big enough but the skill gaps smaller.
Theres a big gap in people who can hold C compared to people C- too. Myself I hit 4038 i think, but never went farther than that due to how bad i got raped every game lolol.
I would say perhaps make it C-, with whatever D/D+ players want to play, kinda like CRTL is now.
Mixing of the C- ranks with the D ranks perhaps it's not that bad of an idea, as long we can avoid matches with too much disparity. What if:
- Teams are split into 2 divisions "D-/D players" and "D+/ C- players"
- Each week there are 2 Bo3. Teams play their D-/D against the other D-/D on a Bo3. Another Bo3 for the D+/ C-.
- Both divisions wins/lose counts towards the same team.
I wasn't around the last DRTLs, and I don't know how things went with C- people (or almost C-) playing on the league, but I feel there is more disparity between D- to D+ than to D+ to C-. Just some food for thought.
On April 14 2014 22:02 Golondrin wrote: Should we start brainstorming?
Mixing of the C- ranks with the D ranks perhaps it's not that bad of an idea, as long we can avoid matches with too much disparity. What if:
- Teams are split into 2 divisions "D-/D players" and "D+/ C- players"
- Each week there are 2 Bo3. Teams play their D-/D against the other D-/D on a Bo3. Another Bo3 for the D+/ C-.
- Both divisions wins/lose counts towards the same team.
I wasn't around the last DRTLs, and I don't know how things went with C- people (or almost C-) playing on the league, but I feel there is more disparity between D- to D+ than to D+ to C-. Just some food for thought.
I really like this idea, wasn't it tried before in the higher ranks? I think even A-rank teams were accepting Ds and Cs as part of the fun, and both teams had to play matches at all levels like that. Not sure which tourney it was.
chess.com has something similar with clubs when one club challenges another. The participating members are then paired off with each other when there are 6-10 for each side. Like a manual matchmaking system.
On April 14 2014 22:02 Golondrin wrote: Should we start brainstorming?
Mixing of the C- ranks with the D ranks perhaps it's not that bad of an idea, as long we can avoid matches with too much disparity. What if:
- Teams are split into 2 divisions "D-/D players" and "D+/ C- players"
- Each week there are 2 Bo3. Teams play their D-/D against the other D-/D on a Bo3. Another Bo3 for the D+/ C-.
- Both divisions wins/lose counts towards the same team.
I wasn't around the last DRTLs, and I don't know how things went with C- people (or almost C-) playing on the league, but I feel there is more disparity between D- to D+ than to D+ to C-. Just some food for thought.
I really like this idea, wasn't it tried before in the higher ranks? I think even A-rank teams were accepting Ds and Cs as part of the fun, and both teams had to play matches at all levels like that. Not sure which tourney it was.
chess.com has something similar with clubs when one club challenges another. The participating members are then paired off with each other when there are 6-10 for each side. Like a manual matchmaking system.
League of Legends has an event called Battle of the Atlantic where the top 5 teams from North America play those from Europe, and how it works is NA 5th vs EU 5th for 1 point NA 4th vs EU 4th for 1 point NA 3rd vs EU 3rd for 2 points NA 2nd vs EU 2nd for 2 points NA 1st vs EU 1st for 3 points Could try something like that .-. where 2 D rank matches for 1 point, 2 C rank matches for 2 points, and 1 B/A rank match for 3 points, or even 1 point match is E, D-, D, D+, 2 point are C-, 3 point is C/C+ .-.
On April 14 2014 22:02 Golondrin wrote: Should we start brainstorming?
Mixing of the C- ranks with the D ranks perhaps it's not that bad of an idea, as long we can avoid matches with too much disparity. What if:
- Teams are split into 2 divisions "D-/D players" and "D+/ C- players"
- Each week there are 2 Bo3. Teams play their D-/D against the other D-/D on a Bo3. Another Bo3 for the D+/ C-.
- Both divisions wins/lose counts towards the same team.
I wasn't around the last DRTLs, and I don't know how things went with C- people (or almost C-) playing on the league, but I feel there is more disparity between D- to D+ than to D+ to C-. Just some food for thought.
If you're gonna make a league like all the DRTL's before this one just do it the same as the old DRTL(which were basically what we're describing now honestly, which is why activity is so low) but make the drafts more fair. So we don't have all powerhouse teams like we did last season, Courage/Sun Khan to an extent(i'll throw out we were one of the strongest teams in all honesty) but maybe make all the C- players play offrace if it seems a bit off balance or something.
On April 14 2014 22:02 Golondrin wrote: Should we start brainstorming?
Mixing of the C- ranks with the D ranks perhaps it's not that bad of an idea, as long we can avoid matches with too much disparity. What if:
- Teams are split into 2 divisions "D-/D players" and "D+/ C- players"
- Each week there are 2 Bo3. Teams play their D-/D against the other D-/D on a Bo3. Another Bo3 for the D+/ C-.
- Both divisions wins/lose counts towards the same team.
I wasn't around the last DRTLs, and I don't know how things went with C- people (or almost C-) playing on the league, but I feel there is more disparity between D- to D+ than to D+ to C-. Just some food for thought.
I really like this idea, wasn't it tried before in the higher ranks? I think even A-rank teams were accepting Ds and Cs as part of the fun, and both teams had to play matches at all levels like that. Not sure which tourney it was.
It was the never-actuall-happend E to A League/Tournament. Each team had players of all ranks and the games were played between equal ranks. I still really like the idea, as it gives lower ranked players a very good opportunity to practice with better players and overall get in touch with eachother. Which is especially good for new players to get in contact with the BW scene.
I know we were shooting for stuff this week, but it's just way to busy for me right now with the end of the semester. We'll start figuring out the draft in 3 weeks.
Well, since this is getting pushed back a bit, I may be able to participate. I'm on a case-by-case basis right now for a while until I get some things settled around. I'm also moving soon, but I think I'll have that wrapped up by the end of next month. On top of that, I'm not sure whether I would be able to participate fully for 10 weeks.
All that aside, sign me up. Raddmiral Protoss D+ max
On April 24 2014 05:16 L_Master wrote: I know we were shooting for stuff this week, but it's just way to busy for me right now with the end of the semester. We'll start figuring out the draft in 3 weeks.
Not to late to signup!!
Okay sign me up. I'll be a sub for whatever team I'm on in case an extra person is needed. Nick: bisudagger Race: Protoss because there is a lack of P in this league. Rank: hahahaha......ha
LMaster this is just an idea, but how about talking with Legend to merge CRTL/DRTL? I think it was mentioned above but if you split it up into like 2 divisions per game so you had Bo7 or something with 3D/3C rankers then it might work out the issue with lack of players if it's still a problem coming up to the start date.
On May 04 2014 07:30 Qikz wrote: LMaster this is just an idea, but how about talking with Legend to merge CRTL/DRTL? I think it was mentioned above but if you split it up into like 2 divisions per game so you had Bo7 or something with 3D/3C rankers then it might work out the issue with lack of players if it's still a problem coming up to the start date.
Maybe format can be Bo3 D, winner of Bo3 gets 1 point Bo3 C, winner of Bo3 gets 1 point Ace match, Ace match gets 1 point Win at least 2/3 sections .-. Idk random idea
We will draft on Saturday and then depending on team sizes decide if we want a 4 or 6 person league. To the best of my knowledge as captains we currently have:
Myself Xkcd Birdie (or another sB member) L1ghtning AoT Qikz
We have some 30+ players. That's much too thin to have six teams, but it will work fine to have 4 larger teams and thus avoid walkovers and each team will have lots of people to practice with. The draft keeps getting knocked back, but I'm hopeful that we can get it down by the end of this week. (preferably earlier.)
Our WeMadeFox like pro terran rolster and i would like to send this message to all the lazy and weak "teams" whose players will quickly regret to have left their sandboxes so young.
On June 10 2014 02:43 Kenexio wrote: Qikz, i have a little bit problem. :S I applied as Protoss and you wrote Terran next to my ICCup name. Please change it! Thank you.
On June 10 2014 08:07 hp.Shell wrote: I'm so "bad" now.. iccup has become really difficult. Where I once was touching D+ I am now wallowing in D- keyboard rank land. T.T
ICCUP Name; ASUS_Jerki Skype; live:cevoguyman rank d-/d race z i just started, but I did play SC2 and got to med diamond, if that counts as anything? I do love broodwar, i played it when i was little, and i just wanna get someone good at it,
On June 10 2014 11:44 L_Master wrote: So games will start start the Saturday after this, which is the 21st.
Full map order/lineups/etc. update should be ought soon.
It's Time!
edit. For the late sign ups, I'm sure if L_master can figure out which were the next two teams on the draft, then we can pick up the late sign ups into the DRTL. Better late than never!
I am so tempted to play bw, even installed the iccup launcher and everything. (mainly because of the showmatch at HSC 9) Have to get into platinum in sc2 for another tournament and dunno if BW will help me, will watch this teamleague though
On June 11 2014 18:15 gTank wrote: I am so tempted to play bw, even installed the iccup launcher and everything. (mainly because of the showmatch at HSC 9) Have to get into platinum in sc2 for another tournament and dunno if BW will help me, will watch this teamleague though
Why not play as well? It's the best time to play since you will have consistent practice partners and have a team that can teach you.
On June 11 2014 13:19 ijustlost wrote: can i late sign up?
Yep, post your max rank, race, and account name and a team will pick you up. L_Master, are you going to continue divvying out players that sign up, or can any team pick them up?
On June 12 2014 02:49 gTank wrote: Well then, I haven't even played one ladder match, also have to get some builds to learn ^^ Will be here when I am a bit more prepared
just ask to join a team and read up on strats using liquipedia then the team (and your own practice) can help you improve
On June 12 2014 02:49 gTank wrote: Well then, I haven't even played one ladder match, also have to get some builds to learn ^^ Will be here when I am a bit more prepared
just ask to join a team and read up on strats using liquipedia then the team (and your own practice) can help you improve
Already did Well, I pm'ed if I can join in late, haven't picked a team yet.
On June 13 2014 23:43 Falling wrote: I'm just trying to confirm which team is next in drafting.
why not have him drafted into the team that has the least members?
Well after the draft, I think all teams are relatively even, but two teams haven't posted their official roster, so hard to know for sure. But the draft was supposed to even out the team numbers, so everyone should be within one player of each other.
Theoretically start date is: [6/8/2014 9:31:41 AM] Eric Morgan: so we are all drafted [6/8/2014 9:32:01 AM] Eric Morgan: I guess post up ze rosters and we'll have staty date of 2 weeks from yesterday So I think that is June 21?
So we're just waiting for L_master to tell us which team is playing which... I think the map order still stands in the second post unless that is from last season?
Those should be correct, but if someone wants to double check the schedule and make sure I haven't made any mistakes please do so and let me know if I have.
On June 17 2014 10:32 ijustlost wrote: so am i not playing this?
When I first played I was drafted by a team, or more or less approached by all but settled on Sun Khan :X Just wait for someone to send you a message and you'll be able to play!
I need lineups from captains no later than 24 hours prior to the start time of DRTL this week. Failure to do so will result in a 2 set penalty, and if no lineups is submitted by one hour prior to game start the match is forfeit.
MTA: Just to be clear, match time is 2:00 KST or if you want to use GMT that would be 17:00 GMT
I may PM everybody in that topic to see if they're still up for practice but it's been so long since people signed up there that I'm not expecting anybody to still be interested.
But that still leaves Rey[sol] if he's not too high level. Also, was this guy ever picked up?
On June 10 2014 13:40 Jerki wrote: ICCUP Name; ASUS_Jerki Skype; live:cevoguyman rank d-/d race z i just started, but I did play SC2 and got to med diamond, if that counts as anything? I do love broodwar, i played it when i was little, and i just wanna get someone good at it,
On June 19 2014 13:50 arb wrote: LOL. If Tonight is playing in this you should just go ahead and let the rest of the "never hit c-" C-Ourage players play too.
Silly arb
Please tell me you didn't think I was actually going to let solid "DRTL" players from last season play
The team name might change. We have not decided on a captain, but preliminarily, we'll carry on with the old ACE captains, L1ghtning and Floladriblere.
On June 10 2014 13:40 Jerki wrote: ICCUP Name; ASUS_Jerki Skype; live:cevoguyman rank d-/d race z i just started, but I did play SC2 and got to med diamond, if that counts as anything? I do love broodwar, i played it when i was little, and i just wanna get someone good at it,
anybody pick him up? if you pick him, know that he can beat me quite badly if you need to snipe me
On June 19 2014 13:56 Falling wrote: Alright, well no tonight.
But that still leaves Rey[sol] if he's not too high level. Also, was this guy ever picked up?
On June 10 2014 13:40 Jerki wrote: ICCUP Name; ASUS_Jerki Skype; live:cevoguyman rank d-/d race z i just started, but I did play SC2 and got to med diamond, if that counts as anything? I do love broodwar, i played it when i was little, and i just wanna get someone good at it,
anybody pick him up? if you pick him, know that he can beat me quite badly if you need to snipe me
Jade-qikz vs phamchienthangv Destination MicroMacro(OD) vs ikyguil/ sb.i91 Aztec-Reuental vs sb.ikan Mist-yannick vs Falling/ sb.Passafist Fighting Spirit iT.Duece vs Noah/ sb.ruypture
The team name might change. We have not decided on a captain, but preliminarily, we'll carry on with the old ACE captains, L1ghtning and Floladriblere.
The team name might change. We have not decided on a captain, but preliminarily, we'll carry on with the old ACE captains, L1ghtning and Floladriblere.
That is many terrans lol.
I was going to play terran as well but Eric thought I was still zerg and being lazy, I'll just keep playing zerg.
Jade - abyssal vs Golondrin Destination - Kopp vs Greenelve Aztec - xkcd vs SilverJohnny Mist - l1ghtning vs HappyBunnyTime Fighting Spirit - whaski vs ColonBruise
Jade-qikz vs phamchienthangv Destination MicroMacro(OD) vs ikyguil/ sb.i91 Aztec-Reuental vs sb.ikan Mist-yannick vs Falling/ sb.Passafist Fighting Spirit iT.Duece vs Noah/ sb.ruypture
I know you need a pp pham and so do I, so just throw me a PM and we can talk about arranging a time in a few days/mid week if that's ok with you :>
For next week, we'll have the usual lineup submissions being due by Wednesday night (60 hours prior to DRTL start time), and lineups out by Thursday.
It should be easier with smaller number of teams, but let's try to get the reps in on time as much as possible as well. Gonna make the deadline for PP games Tuesday after DRTL, so we can be guaranteed to have reps by Wednesday and then a regular cast on Thursday.
On June 22 2014 01:35 L_Master wrote: It's in 25 min, I did say 2 KST, 13:00 EDT after all
On June 17 2014 12:50 L_Master wrote:
MTA: Just to be clear, match time is 2:00 KST
Your OP said 12:00 EST. Fix that shit
Correct. But we are not EST right now, we are EDT (notice top of TL), and that is one hour shifted because of DST. That's also why I posted the KST time for clarity since that is standard TL reference time.
On June 22 2014 12:46 Demurity wrote: Anyone need a team coach? I will lead you to victory. They call me Pak Yong Woon.
Well I will take up your offer if only took another person for our team to practice with. I'll add you to our skype group, if you tell me your name. Lead us to victory!
On June 23 2014 22:06 tonight wrote: Typical DRTL. PP and WO every week
To be fair to the two people on our team who haven't shown up, we had to put them on the roster because nobody else was around.
We've heard from Reuental and maybe he didn't realise he was playing but MicroMacro we haven't even had a single response from so I guess he forgot about the tournament and left.
Totally unbiased, i, greenelve, think this season is great so far. And dont you ruin it. Lets just practice and play games and have fun. Cant be so hard, can it be?
Well I mean, it's hopes are that the players are responsible enough to show up every week. And if people don't show up they don't show up, this is about having fun ^_^
On June 24 2014 07:25 Qikz wrote: Would it be ok if all the teams got their rosters updated and then edited into the OP? They've not been updated in a long time.
Ok, I've edited the rosters of sb, afk, and despa because they have all posted recently. Dunno what takk's roster looks like.
I'd like to play against another player from despa, as I still haven't received any word from micromacro. Please let me know who I'll be playing so we can arrange a time to play thanks
I want to say thank you to my team for making me truly feel like Jaedong. You guys supporting me all the time and making me feel like a korean pro. >.>
I want to say thank you to my team for making me truly feel like Jaedong. You guys supporting me all the time and making me feel like a korean pro. >.>
On June 27 2014 03:59 greenelve wrote: Minscandboo,
if possible, can we play after the brasil game? :S
Don't worry, it won't take me 90 minutes to crush you. You'll still be able to catch most of the Brazil game. When is the game? Starts an hour before game time is supposed to be? Sigh. sure. whatever. add me on skype: minsc_andboo.
On June 27 2014 03:59 greenelve wrote: Minscandboo,
if possible, can we play after the brasil game? :S
Don't worry, it won't take me 90 minutes to crush you. You'll still be able to catch most of the Brazil game. When is the game? Starts an hour before game time is supposed to be? Sigh. sure. whatever. add me on skype: minsc_andboo.
I really think we should play later, so you can finish your dream of crushing me. :p
L_Master you'd be surprised to know but my APM is 280 (although now it's more like 220). My problem begins where I use it for the right things at the wrong time :p
Not sure who brought it up to you but they probably noticed my APM when I was streaming.
Yo, i couldnt play my match with iT.Deuce, he asked pp to sunday, but i worked today, and he said that he's going on vacation and wont come back till next sunday or so. If i know correctly the deadline is friday for pp's + rep submits, so the options: 1) somehow he can play, which i dont think its possible 2) place a subtitute player in his spot 3) no further action in the case means w.o. for AFK You can reach me via skype: mark-f2f , waiting for solution.
On June 30 2014 04:03 Kopp wrote: Yo, i couldnt play my match with iT.Deuce, he asked pp to sunday, but i worked today, and he said that he's going on vacation and wont come back till next sunday or so. If i know correctly the deadline is friday for pp's + rep submits, so the options: 1) somehow he can play, which i dont think its possible 2) place a subtitute player in his spot 3) no further action in the case means w.o. for AFK You can reach me via skype: mark-f2f , waiting for solution.
Regards!
Did you manage to get in contact with him? He said in our group chat he could play today or tomorrow I think.
Stealth Bunnies 3 - 0 TAKK Ruypture <Mist> HappyBunnyTime no show from HBT so far Pham <Jade> Golondrin Minscandboo <Fighting Spirit> Greenelve ikan <Circuit Breaker> SilverJohnny pp- no update on progress ikyguil <Aztec> ColonBruise
Could ikan or SilverJohnny give an update? Have you played already? (Or at least arranged a time?)
hey sorry, I had no idea I was up to play. I was out of town over the weekend for a funeral. we can play tomorrow for sure though
Holding a little DRTL practice session for anyone that wants to either just play games or get some general advice. Probably will go for about 2 hours give or take from time of posting.
Stealth Bunnies 3 - 0 TAKK Ruypture <Mist> HappyBunnyTime no show from HBT so far Pham <Jade> Golondrin Minscandboo <Fighting Spirit> Greenelve ikan <Circuit Breaker> SilverJohnny pp- no update on progress ikyguil <Aztec> ColonBruise
Could ikan or SilverJohnny give an update? Have you played already? (Or at least arranged a time?)
hey sorry, I had no idea I was up to play. I was out of town over the weekend for a funeral. we can play tomorrow for sure though
just as an update I PM'd Ikan right after I posted that... no response. haven't seen him on iccup either.
"Games may be postponed between players IF the postponement is scheduled at least 12 hours ahead of the match time and both captain were notified" My match was not scheduled on time so Abyss can have a walkover. So sorry to my team
Kopp did not show up for our game. if he could get back to me asaply that would be great as weekdays are much harder for me to make any game time. Flo suggested switching Kopp and Abyssal, L_master if you wanna consider that and lemme know, if abyssal is okay w/ that as well.
Took the w.o vs Kopp. He did not show for the PP time =( When are we gonna see the line ups for this Saturday? Hope my next opponent shows up! gl gg hf!
You guys might just need to swap lineups if there isn't anything by about 24 hours from now. Not sure if I will have internet access in the next week as I'm on vacation.
On July 10 2014 13:30 L_Master wrote: You guys might just need to swap lineups if there isn't anything by about 24 hours from now. Not sure if I will have internet access in the next week as I'm on vacation.
With whom will I exchange line-up info, if you do not have internet?
On July 10 2014 13:30 L_Master wrote: You guys might just need to swap lineups if there isn't anything by about 24 hours from now. Not sure if I will have internet access in the next week as I'm on vacation.
With whom will I exchange line-up info, if you do not have internet?
On July 10 2014 13:30 L_Master wrote: You guys might just need to swap lineups if there isn't anything by about 24 hours from now. Not sure if I will have internet access in the next week as I'm on vacation.
With whom will I exchange line-up info, if you do not have internet?
Haha this net...apparently that didn't go through either, sent to PM and posted here now
Haha. Well now I have your later pm, and this so we are all good. So then ColonBruise <Jade> Phamchienthang Golondrin <Aztec> Miscandboo HappyBunnyTime <Mist> Passafist Raddmiral <Circuit Breaker> iykguil Greenelve <Destination> BigFan
On July 12 2014 11:32 AhAiHi wrote: Hi. I would really like to join.
I am a D rank Terran. The highest I ever got to was C, but that was 4 years ago so I doubt i'm even remotely decent now.
I will join any team or whatever you want me to do. I just want to play.
Thank you ))
yea, you can't play since you hit C to begin with once...
why not put him against the best of DRTL, like the best D+ player. If he wins, he's likely better and quite possibly C- but at least he gets a chance to show his skill and L_Master can judge based on that? If that's against the rules though, don't go for it lol.
edit: I realize that there is a chance of him 'faking a loss' lol but would be nice to have more TL members playing DRTL (I realize the whole C rank thing was discussed to death before but its 4 years later now).
whaski requested a PP. I said okay, but received no reschedule time. I'll be on at noon just in case and if we find a reschedule time I'll update that here.
On July 12 2014 11:32 AhAiHi wrote: Hi. I would really like to join.
I am a D rank Terran. The highest I ever got to was C, but that was 4 years ago so I doubt i'm even remotely decent now.
I will join any team or whatever you want me to do. I just want to play.
Thank you ))
yea, you can't play since you hit C to begin with once...
why not put him against the best of DRTL, like the best D+ player. If he wins, he's likely better and quite possibly C- but at least he gets a chance to show his skill and L_Master can judge based on that? If that's against the rules though, don't go for it lol.
edit: I realize that there is a chance of him 'faking a loss' lol but would be nice to have more TL members playing DRTL (I realize the whole C rank thing was discussed to death before but its 4 years later now).
Unfortunately this is the exact reason we got to where we were before. Moreover$.former C players can get back into shape quickly. Some former C guys are legit D when they start back, but if they start being any level of serious they quickly jump back ahead of everybody else.
On July 12 2014 11:32 AhAiHi wrote: Hi. I would really like to join.
I am a D rank Terran. The highest I ever got to was C, but that was 4 years ago so I doubt i'm even remotely decent now.
I will join any team or whatever you want me to do. I just want to play.
Thank you ))
yea, you can't play since you hit C to begin with once...
why not put him against the best of DRTL, like the best D+ player. If he wins, he's likely better and quite possibly C- but at least he gets a chance to show his skill and L_Master can judge based on that? If that's against the rules though, don't go for it lol.
edit: I realize that there is a chance of him 'faking a loss' lol but would be nice to have more TL members playing DRTL (I realize the whole C rank thing was discussed to death before but its 4 years later now).
Unfortunately this is the exact reason we got to where we were before. Moreover$.former C players can get back into shape quickly. Some former C guys are legit D when they start back, but if they start being any level of serious they quickly jump back ahead of everybody else.
hmm you make a fair point. Only counterargument that comes to mind is that C from several years back is nowhere C now so I don't see how someone can make that huge jump without a ton of commitment to it (why can't a D player do the same then?). Given, I'm sure it's quite possible to do but your tourney, your rules lol.
There is a significant difference just on the mechanical level, that I think is much easier to reacquire when you reach C and higher. Sure you might not be competitive with C+ for a while, but you'll quickly stomp D's, hardly break stride with D-. Even C for several years ago (when Koreans were still playing on iccup?), if they actually start practicing, I think would quickly find themselves back in the upper echelons of D+, if not C-. That muscle memory WILL come back, where it never existed in the first place of the D.
On July 12 2014 11:32 AhAiHi wrote: Hi. I would really like to join.
I am a D rank Terran. The highest I ever got to was C, but that was 4 years ago so I doubt i'm even remotely decent now.
I will join any team or whatever you want me to do. I just want to play.
Thank you ))
yea, you can't play since you hit C to begin with once...
why not put him against the best of DRTL, like the best D+ player. If he wins, he's likely better and quite possibly C- but at least he gets a chance to show his skill and L_Master can judge based on that? If that's against the rules though, don't go for it lol.
edit: I realize that there is a chance of him 'faking a loss' lol but would be nice to have more TL members playing DRTL (I realize the whole C rank thing was discussed to death before but its 4 years later now).
Unfortunately this is the exact reason we got to where we were before. Moreover$.former C players can get back into shape quickly. Some former C guys are legit D when they start back, but if they start being any level of serious they quickly jump back ahead of everybody else.
hmm you make a fair point. Only counterargument that comes to mind is that C from several years back is nowhere C now so I don't see how someone can make that huge jump without a ton of commitment to it (why can't a D player do the same then?). Given, I'm sure it's quite possible to do but your tourney, your rules lol.
Because D players are clueless relative to C players. All C players need to do is to refresh their knowledge and retrain their mechanics. D players never had the mechanics or knowledge..
Maybe imagining this would help: It's like a semi proficient Arabic speaker who hasn't spoken Arabic in 4 years vs someone who has never learnt much Arabic before. Who will be better after 10 hours of learning and practicing Arabic?
I really want to play someone if anyone wants to play. Just for fun. Or maybe I can practice with some of the people in the tournaments. I just love playing the game I've PM'd but no takers.
I don't think it's too late. We could always use more players. We're (sb) low on numbers, but Takk could probably use a D+ in their ranks.
Race picking will be allowed, but if you pick to play a certain race on a given day, you must continue playing that race throughout the whole day. You will only be allowed to change your race for the next week. For the purposes of this league, random will not be allowed.
On July 13 2014 02:09 Falling wrote: There is a significant difference just on the mechanical level, that I think is much easier to reacquire when you reach C and higher. Sure you might not be competitive with C+ for a while, but you'll quickly stomp D's, hardly break stride with D-. Even C for several years ago (when Koreans were still playing on iccup?), if they actually start practicing, I think would quickly find themselves back in the upper echelons of D+, if not C-. That muscle memory WILL come back, where it never existed in the first place of the D.
On July 12 2014 11:32 AhAiHi wrote: Hi. I would really like to join.
I am a D rank Terran. The highest I ever got to was C, but that was 4 years ago so I doubt i'm even remotely decent now.
I will join any team or whatever you want me to do. I just want to play.
Thank you ))
yea, you can't play since you hit C to begin with once...
why not put him against the best of DRTL, like the best D+ player. If he wins, he's likely better and quite possibly C- but at least he gets a chance to show his skill and L_Master can judge based on that? If that's against the rules though, don't go for it lol.
edit: I realize that there is a chance of him 'faking a loss' lol but would be nice to have more TL members playing DRTL (I realize the whole C rank thing was discussed to death before but its 4 years later now).
Unfortunately this is the exact reason we got to where we were before. Moreover$.former C players can get back into shape quickly. Some former C guys are legit D when they start back, but if they start being any level of serious they quickly jump back ahead of everybody else.
hmm you make a fair point. Only counterargument that comes to mind is that C from several years back is nowhere C now so I don't see how someone can make that huge jump without a ton of commitment to it (why can't a D player do the same then?). Given, I'm sure it's quite possible to do but your tourney, your rules lol.
Because D players are clueless relative to C players. All C players need to do is to refresh their knowledge and retrain their mechanics. D players never had the mechanics or knowledge..
Maybe imagining this would help: It's like a semi proficient Arabic speaker who hasn't spoken Arabic in 4 years vs someone who has never learnt much Arabic before. Who will be better after 10 hours of learning and practicing Arabic?
Is this a trick question? :O Do you really need an answer for that one? I'm pretty sure it's the former lol.
On July 13 2014 08:06 AhAiHi wrote: it's okay BigFan. Thank you though.
I really want to play someone if anyone wants to play. Just for fun. Or maybe I can practice with some of the people in the tournaments. I just love playing the game I've PM'd but no takers.
np. You can add me on iccup: golden_phoenix. If I'm on, can always send me a message for a game. Aside from that, I found being able to make a game will get you a game rather quickly as long as its not after midnight est lol.
On July 13 2014 02:09 Falling wrote: There is a significant difference just on the mechanical level, that I think is much easier to reacquire when you reach C and higher. Sure you might not be competitive with C+ for a while, but you'll quickly stomp D's, hardly break stride with D-. Even C for several years ago (when Koreans were still playing on iccup?), if they actually start practicing, I think would quickly find themselves back in the upper echelons of D+, if not C-. That muscle memory WILL come back, where it never existed in the first place of the D.
On July 12 2014 11:32 AhAiHi wrote: Hi. I would really like to join.
I am a D rank Terran. The highest I ever got to was C, but that was 4 years ago so I doubt i'm even remotely decent now.
I will join any team or whatever you want me to do. I just want to play.
Thank you ))
yea, you can't play since you hit C to begin with once...
why not put him against the best of DRTL, like the best D+ player. If he wins, he's likely better and quite possibly C- but at least he gets a chance to show his skill and L_Master can judge based on that? If that's against the rules though, don't go for it lol.
edit: I realize that there is a chance of him 'faking a loss' lol but would be nice to have more TL members playing DRTL (I realize the whole C rank thing was discussed to death before but its 4 years later now).
Unfortunately this is the exact reason we got to where we were before. Moreover$.former C players can get back into shape quickly. Some former C guys are legit D when they start back, but if they start being any level of serious they quickly jump back ahead of everybody else.
hmm you make a fair point. Only counterargument that comes to mind is that C from several years back is nowhere C now so I don't see how someone can make that huge jump without a ton of commitment to it (why can't a D player do the same then?). Given, I'm sure it's quite possible to do but your tourney, your rules lol.
Because D players are clueless relative to C players. All C players need to do is to refresh their knowledge and retrain their mechanics. D players never had the mechanics or knowledge..
Maybe imagining this would help: It's like a semi proficient Arabic speaker who hasn't spoken Arabic in 4 years vs someone who has never learnt much Arabic before. Who will be better after 10 hours of learning and practicing Arabic?
Is this a trick question? :O Do you really need an answer for that one? I'm pretty sure it's the former lol.
hahhaha so -----> The former Arabic speaker is the former C player and the latter Arabic speaker is the D player
On July 13 2014 02:09 Falling wrote: There is a significant difference just on the mechanical level, that I think is much easier to reacquire when you reach C and higher. Sure you might not be competitive with C+ for a while, but you'll quickly stomp D's, hardly break stride with D-. Even C for several years ago (when Koreans were still playing on iccup?), if they actually start practicing, I think would quickly find themselves back in the upper echelons of D+, if not C-. That muscle memory WILL come back, where it never existed in the first place of the D.
ok, fair enough. I can stand behind that lol.
On July 13 2014 05:23 JieXian wrote:
On July 13 2014 01:23 BigFan wrote:
On July 13 2014 01:13 L_Master wrote:
On July 12 2014 14:46 BigFan wrote:
On July 12 2014 13:23 amazingxkcd wrote:
On July 12 2014 11:32 AhAiHi wrote: Hi. I would really like to join.
I am a D rank Terran. The highest I ever got to was C, but that was 4 years ago so I doubt i'm even remotely decent now.
I will join any team or whatever you want me to do. I just want to play.
Thank you ))
yea, you can't play since you hit C to begin with once...
why not put him against the best of DRTL, like the best D+ player. If he wins, he's likely better and quite possibly C- but at least he gets a chance to show his skill and L_Master can judge based on that? If that's against the rules though, don't go for it lol.
edit: I realize that there is a chance of him 'faking a loss' lol but would be nice to have more TL members playing DRTL (I realize the whole C rank thing was discussed to death before but its 4 years later now).
Unfortunately this is the exact reason we got to where we were before. Moreover$.former C players can get back into shape quickly. Some former C guys are legit D when they start back, but if they start being any level of serious they quickly jump back ahead of everybody else.
hmm you make a fair point. Only counterargument that comes to mind is that C from several years back is nowhere C now so I don't see how someone can make that huge jump without a ton of commitment to it (why can't a D player do the same then?). Given, I'm sure it's quite possible to do but your tourney, your rules lol.
Because D players are clueless relative to C players. All C players need to do is to refresh their knowledge and retrain their mechanics. D players never had the mechanics or knowledge..
Maybe imagining this would help: It's like a semi proficient Arabic speaker who hasn't spoken Arabic in 4 years vs someone who has never learnt much Arabic before. Who will be better after 10 hours of learning and practicing Arabic?
Is this a trick question? :O Do you really need an answer for that one? I'm pretty sure it's the former lol.
hahhaha so -----> The former Arabic speaker is the former C player and the latter Arabic speaker is the D player
I'll be on vacation all this week with very limited net, so just exchange lineups. I'll be having someone from TAKK do our lineps for this week in place of me
Out of interest, is anyone going to cast the games for this other than LMaster since he's busy? There's like 3 weeks to catch up on :p
I offered to cast earlier in the thread and L_Master never replied to it. Since L_Master is away the captains will have to send the replays to someone willing to cast.
I'd be willing to cast any sets you guys wish to send me. I think it would be best to have all the games that were played in a match before casting the games for convenience's sake.
TAKK vs AFK L1ghtning Fighting Spirit: HappyBunnyTime(pp) Xkcd Mist:Golondrin Pebble444 Aztec:Greenelve it.abyssa Circuit Breaker:SilverJohnny whaski Destination:ColonBruise edit race fixed edit 2: changing from raddmiral to SilverJohnny due raddmiral can't postpone for his match and I misread the op for his race even though I am a coach for TAKK T_T
The funny thing with xkcd is he turned up as n.stop)xkcd but he never actually joined the team page so I didn't even know until that day that he was in the same clan as me :p
Free Agent ICCup Name: sGs.Madhous Race: Zerg Max Rank: D
Complete newbie to BW here. I'm primarily applying here in case any teams think I'll be a useful addition to their team, moreso than me applying here because I feel I'm ready to compete. If anyone feels like skipping the part where they have an incompetent boob playing in set 3, I guess you can check back at this post a week or two from now.
On July 23 2014 19:13 phamchienthang[V] wrote: My skype may go shit mode again, i havent received any mgs today and everyone turned offline. So if reuental show up, plz send me mgs here.
He's not online right now but I'll let you know as soon as he comes online.
Idk what going on with SilverJohnny but ColonBruise was just ignoring us for some reason or another..... Also if you really want the walkover from them we want walkover from pebble then
On July 24 2014 01:11 whaski wrote: leviaias and I request walkover from our games... No response from Takk. If someone could be subbed that would be great.
Same thing with me. I've been trying to reach HappyBunny. I might have to take a WO too, but I'm willing to reschedule if he contacts me in 24 hours.
On July 24 2014 01:11 whaski wrote: leviaias and I request walkover from our games... No response from Takk. If someone could be subbed that would be great.
Same thing with me. I've been trying to reach HappyBunny. I might have to take a WO too, but I'm willing to reschedule if he contacts me in 24 hours.
HappyBunnyTime told me you didn't contact him but his skype is HappyBunnyTime Also his Teamliquid is HappyBunnyTime too.
Despa vs TAKK! BisuDagger Jade Greenelve Deuce Fighting Spirit Golondrin AtomicArchon Circuit Breaker HappyBunnyTime Jxn Destination ColonBruise Jello Aztec SilverJohnny Please everyone try to contact each other via Skype if you need to make Postponements!
On July 25 2014 12:26 LightningStrike wrote: Despa vs TAKK! BisuDagger Jade Greenelve Deuce Fighting Spirit Golondrin AtomicArchon Circuit Breaker HappyBunnyTime Jxn Destination ColonBruise Jello Aztec SilverJohnny Please everyone try to contact each other via Skype if you need to make Postponements!
May i ask why silverjohnny and colonbruise apply to this week, while we are still waiting for them to arrange last weeks games?
On July 25 2014 12:26 LightningStrike wrote: Despa vs TAKK! BisuDagger Jade Greenelve Deuce Fighting Spirit Golondrin AtomicArchon Circuit Breaker HappyBunnyTime Jxn Destination ColonBruise Jello Aztec SilverJohnny Please everyone try to contact each other via Skype if you need to make Postponements!
May i ask why silverjohnny and colonbruise apply to this week, while we are still waiting for them to arrange last weeks games?
Read your pm for Silverjohnny and ColonBruise using a sub and I pmed who ColonBruise was suppose to play
On July 20 2014 06:38 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote: Free Agent ICCup Name: sGs.Madhous Race: Zerg Max Rank: D
Complete newbie to BW here. I'm primarily applying here in case any teams think I'll be a useful addition to their team, moreso than me applying here because I feel I'm ready to compete. If anyone feels like skipping the part where they have an incompetent boob playing in set 3, I guess you can check back at this post a week or two from now.
So hopefully you are still here. Stealth Bunnies will take Madhaus... please let me know your skype name so I can add you.
On July 19 2014 03:52 Scarbo wrote: Are teams still open for new members? If so, I'm looking for one. Im D rank Protoss.
Thanks!
Iccup id: sGsScarbo
Takk will take sGsScarbo
btw, i91 might be losing his internet for a couple weeks... so there might be a pp or a sub.
On July 26 2014 13:33 Falling wrote: Are you on Takk?
Honestly yes he is on TAKK but L_Master didn't put him in our roster :| at least as far as I know. I sorry for AFK and Despa for confusion because normally L_Master is the one who makes the lineups and I normally am coaching them or talk to a few members T_T
On July 28 2014 03:22 EvilChuck wrote: "The user does not exist" Doesnt seem like its the right name :/
Well idk then because that was the name he signed up as for drtl :| Blame L_Master for not putting in his iccup name because I was going by what the OP got for Roster names :|
Picked some bad times for trips and all kinds of stuff. I'm back now for the rest of summer.
I'll try and cast some of the games from the past few weeks starting on Thursday. If anyone wants to cast some series just shoot me a PM. If replays haven't been submitted by winning teams, please make sure they get sent.
So apparently pham and kopp have been having difficulty finding a mutual time that works? Can this be resolved or are subs needed? We don't actually have any spares on our end unless someone plays twice. And then there is the Anachronistic vs whaski matchup?
The other three games have been played for week 6.
Mist - SilverJohny v BigFan Aztec - gTank v Phamchienthangv (pham needs pp) CB - ColonBruise v Minscandboo FS - Golondrin v AnachronisticAnarchy Destination - Greenelve v Falling (I need pp until Monday or so)
Yo Kopp, Pham can't play you, and we have no subs, so I will play. But it will need to be the morning/ early afternoon tomorrow (friday) cuz I'm leaving to go camping. My timezone is PST. (alternatively, really, really late tonight cuz I'm going off to see a movie just now.)
On August 01 2014 09:07 amazingxkcd wrote: Mist - Jello vs Xkcd Aztec - Qikz vs Abyssal Circuit Breaker - AtomicArchon vs kopp Fighting Spirit - Deuce vs iway Destination - BisuDagger vs Pebble
On August 02 2014 10:57 MinscandBoo wrote: For those asking about SilverJohnny's iCCup ID. This is his post signing up for the league.
On March 06 2014 00:29 SilverJohnny wrote: hmmmm, play brood war with true gosus or work harder on law school? I know my choice, free agency it is!
ICCup Name: [Y]ermiaN Race: Terran Max Rank: uhhhh I hit D+ on a different account like... 3 years ago maybe? D- now though
L_Master edit this into the OP :O
yeah but I don't think he is on that account much... When I looked at that account on iccup it was like 7 total ladder games and the last 2 were dated: Jul 2 and then Jul 29 soo.... Gonna need the Dark One's own luck to catch him online I'd guess.
On August 02 2014 10:57 MinscandBoo wrote: For those asking about SilverJohnny's iCCup ID. This is his post signing up for the league.
On March 06 2014 00:29 SilverJohnny wrote: hmmmm, play brood war with true gosus or work harder on law school? I know my choice, free agency it is!
ICCup Name: [Y]ermiaN Race: Terran Max Rank: uhhhh I hit D+ on a different account like... 3 years ago maybe? D- now though
L_Master edit this into the OP :O
yeah but I don't think he is on that account much... When I looked at that account on iccup it was like 7 total ladder games and the last 2 were dated: Jul 2 and then Jul 29 soo.... Gonna need the Dark One's own luck to catch him online I'd guess.
Maybe he plays custom games on it instead? Either way, I need to play him later today so hope he's in OP DRTL lol
Yo jello, my apartment is being turned upside down tomorrow to replace the flooring ,( it was supposed to be done today...) I'll need a pp. I can play Monday night and later
On August 01 2014 13:38 Falling wrote: Yo Kopp, Pham can't play you, and we have no subs, so I will play. But it will need to be the morning/ early afternoon tomorrow (friday) cuz I'm leaving to go camping. My timezone is PST. (alternatively, really, really late tonight cuz I'm going off to see a movie just now.)
I worked yesterday, but im free today .. meh what is happening in this situation?
On August 01 2014 13:38 Falling wrote: Yo Kopp, Pham can't play you, and we have no subs, so I will play. But it will need to be the morning/ early afternoon tomorrow (friday) cuz I'm leaving to go camping. My timezone is PST. (alternatively, really, really late tonight cuz I'm going off to see a movie just now.)
I worked yesterday, but im free today .. meh what is happening in this situation?
I think is just a weird situation, and we will get this sorted quicker in the future. So unless L_master rules otherwise, I'd say play. I'm back from camping and pretty much free anytime- if we can get this done Monday or Tuesday, that'd be best (or tonight.)
On August 01 2014 13:38 Falling wrote: Yo Kopp, Pham can't play you, and we have no subs, so I will play. But it will need to be the morning/ early afternoon tomorrow (friday) cuz I'm leaving to go camping. My timezone is PST. (alternatively, really, really late tonight cuz I'm going off to see a movie just now.)
I worked yesterday, but im free today .. meh what is happening in this situation?
I think is just a weird situation, and we will get this sorted quicker in the future. So unless L_master rules otherwise, I'd say play. I'm back from camping and pretty much free anytime- if we can get this done Monday or Tuesday, that'd be best (or tonight.)
Always best to play games. And if you play terran your never back from camping.
On August 01 2014 09:07 amazingxkcd wrote: Mist - Jello vs Xkcd Aztec - Qikz vs Abyssal Circuit Breaker - AtomicArchon vs kopp Fighting Spirit - Deuce vs iway Destination - BisuDagger vs Pebble
The other three games are currently unplayed which we need to sort out. Abyssal do you know if you can play yet, or maybe your team has a substitute?
On August 01 2014 09:07 amazingxkcd wrote: Mist - Jello vs Xkcd Aztec - Qikz vs Abyssal Circuit Breaker - AtomicArchon vs kopp Fighting Spirit - Deuce vs iway Destination - BisuDagger vs Pebble
The other three games are currently unplayed which we need to sort out. Abyssal do you know if you can play yet, or maybe your team has a substitute?
I think Ive asked for a sub, sincce i cant play pp.
...so I'm just going to post our lineup here, as I haven't heard or seen anything from L_master Week 8 AFK vs SB Mist- Phamchienthang Fighting Spirit- AnachronisticAnarchy Jade- Passafist Circuit Breaker- Minscandboo Destination- BigFan
Week 8 AFK vs SB Pebble Mist- Phamchienthang Kopp Fighting Spirit- AnachronisticAnarchy Floladriblere Jade- Passafist xkcd Circuit Breaker- Minscandboo L1ghtning Destination- BigFan (I thought Bigfan was t, so can someone confirm that he plays p?)
On August 08 2014 14:32 L1ghtning wrote: Week 8 AFK vs SB Pebble Mist- Phamchienthang Kopp Fighting Spirit- AnachronisticAnarchy Floladriblere Jade- Passafist xkcd Circuit Breaker- Minscandboo L1ghtning Destination- BigFan (I thought Bigfan was t, so can someone confirm that he plays p?)
as falling mentioned, figured I'll play P this time
gtank need pp though... and thats all i got for you folks, i have absolutley no idea about anything. -.-
yo that's fine, BisuDagger is hard to contact anyway at the best of times. I think Deuce needs a pp as well.
I honestly think if there's another DRTL LMaster is going to have to try and include maybe even just C- or people who've hit C- previously because it seems a lot of the teams are having player/inactivity issues.
Well...it was only a matter of time. No new players and existing players become better... D Rank cant live forever...
..on the other hand, if D Ranks dies, all remaining players will move up to C ranks league...and everyone, including the people who are forbidden to play D Ranks this time, is meeting again
gtank need pp though... and thats all i got for you folks, i have absolutley no idea about anything. -.-
yo that's fine, BisuDagger is hard to contact anyway at the best of times. I think Deuce needs a pp as well.
I honestly think if there's another DRTL LMaster is going to have to try and include maybe even just C- or people who've hit C- previously because it seems a lot of the teams are having player/inactivity issues.
Hey I'm always open to PMs . We will play tomorrow.
On August 10 2014 00:31 greenelve wrote: Well...it was only a matter of time. No new players and existing players become better... D Rank cant live forever...
..on the other hand, if D Ranks dies, all remaining players will move up to C ranks league...and everyone, including the people who are forbidden to play D Ranks this time, is meeting again
I'm a d ranks lifer. I don't intend to get any better at playing the game, just casting
gtank need pp though... and thats all i got for you folks, i have absolutley no idea about anything. -.-
yo that's fine, BisuDagger is hard to contact anyway at the best of times. I think Deuce needs a pp as well.
I honestly think if there's another DRTL LMaster is going to have to try and include maybe even just C- or people who've hit C- previously because it seems a lot of the teams are having player/inactivity issues.
Hey I'm always open to PMs . We will play tomorrow.
gtank need pp though... and thats all i got for you folks, i have absolutley no idea about anything. -.-
yo that's fine, BisuDagger is hard to contact anyway at the best of times. I think Deuce needs a pp as well.
I honestly think if there's another DRTL LMaster is going to have to try and include maybe even just C- or people who've hit C- previously because it seems a lot of the teams are having player/inactivity issues.
Hey I'm always open to PMs . We will play tomorrow.
gtank need pp though... and thats all i got for you folks, i have absolutley no idea about anything. -.-
yo that's fine, BisuDagger is hard to contact anyway at the best of times. I think Deuce needs a pp as well.
I honestly think if there's another DRTL LMaster is going to have to try and include maybe even just C- or people who've hit C- previously because it seems a lot of the teams are having player/inactivity issues.
Hey I'm always open to PMs . We will play tomorrow.
On August 10 2014 00:31 greenelve wrote: Well...it was only a matter of time. No new players and existing players become better... D Rank cant live forever...
..on the other hand, if D Ranks dies, all remaining players will move up to C ranks league...and everyone, including the people who are forbidden to play D Ranks this time, is meeting again
Did you guys pick up scarbo? I see him on iccup all the time.
Golondrin I asked this on skype but you're not online, but would it be ok if we swapped out JxN for targ (on the bottom of the last page) as JxN can't actually play this week
Hey AFK, if you could send week 5 replays to Minscandboo, he has all the sb replays, and I'm getting qikz to collect up the Despa replays. He is also willing to cast the games
So, I've msg SilverJohnny, no answer. Messaged L_Master, no answer yet. At this point, unless someone else can play from TAKK who hasn't already, I'm gonna have to take the WO for that match :/
On August 11 2014 00:35 BigFan wrote: So, I've msg SilverJohnny, no answer. Messaged L_Master, no answer yet. At this point, unless someone else can play from TAKK who hasn't already, I'm gonna have to take the WO for that match :/
TAKK suffered from lack of players because most of TAKK last season are currently unable to play due to hitting C- in iccup in 1v1 in the past :| Even though I recently hit C- and now swapped races I thought I was to good for the league so that why I left :|
On August 11 2014 00:35 BigFan wrote: So, I've msg SilverJohnny, no answer. Messaged L_Master, no answer yet. At this point, unless someone else can play from TAKK who hasn't already, I'm gonna have to take the WO for that match :/
TAKK suffered from lack of players because most of TAKK last season are currently unable to play due to hitting C- in iccup in 1v1 in the past :| Even though I recently hit C- and now swapped races I thought I was to good for the league so that why I left :|
ah I see, ya, it's rough to run DRTL when most of TL seems to be in the upper echelons of D. I mean, we have 4 teams right now but as you mentioned, TAKK seems to be having problems and lots of pps etc... so kinda 3.5 teams lol. I think the only way DRTL will survive in the long run since I'm sure most of the remaining members will improve is to allow C- (and maybe some C) players to participate. Looking at previous DRTLs, I was amazed to see 7-8 teams with 10+ players each and now we're down to 3-4 teams with pp needed every week etc... my thoughts lol. Anyways, is there anyone else that can play me or should I just take WO?
On August 11 2014 00:35 BigFan wrote: So, I've msg SilverJohnny, no answer. Messaged L_Master, no answer yet. At this point, unless someone else can play from TAKK who hasn't already, I'm gonna have to take the WO for that match :/
TAKK suffered from lack of players because most of TAKK last season are currently unable to play due to hitting C- in iccup in 1v1 in the past :| Even though I recently hit C- and now swapped races I thought I was to good for the league so that why I left :|
ah I see, ya, it's rough to run DRTL when most of TL seems to be in the upper echelons of D. I mean, we have 4 teams right now but as you mentioned, TAKK seems to be having problems and lots of pps etc... so kinda 3.5 teams lol. I think the only way DRTL will survive in the long run since I'm sure most of the remaining members will improve is to allow C- (and maybe some C) players to participate. Looking at previous DRTLs, I was amazed to see 7-8 teams with 10+ players each and now we're down to 3-4 teams with pp needed every week etc... my thoughts lol. Anyways, is there anyone else that can play me or should I just take WO?
Take the walkover since we hadn o heard from Silverjohnny for a little bit and we got 0 subs to give you for terran :|
On August 11 2014 00:35 BigFan wrote: So, I've msg SilverJohnny, no answer. Messaged L_Master, no answer yet. At this point, unless someone else can play from TAKK who hasn't already, I'm gonna have to take the WO for that match :/
TAKK suffered from lack of players because most of TAKK last season are currently unable to play due to hitting C- in iccup in 1v1 in the past :| Even though I recently hit C- and now swapped races I thought I was to good for the league so that why I left :|
ah I see, ya, it's rough to run DRTL when most of TL seems to be in the upper echelons of D. I mean, we have 4 teams right now but as you mentioned, TAKK seems to be having problems and lots of pps etc... so kinda 3.5 teams lol. I think the only way DRTL will survive in the long run since I'm sure most of the remaining members will improve is to allow C- (and maybe some C) players to participate. Looking at previous DRTLs, I was amazed to see 7-8 teams with 10+ players each and now we're down to 3-4 teams with pp needed every week etc... my thoughts lol. Anyways, is there anyone else that can play me or should I just take WO?
Well, at the time it was thought that having all the C- guys was chasing away the D and D- guys, so it made sense at that point time. It just wasn't very friendly for new players getting into bw. Unfortunately, the influx of new players went down, the old ones didn't really come back, and the consistent ones got too good. So we are in a different context, and in this context a mixed league will probably be best moving forward. However, we will still probably lose people in our current D ranks if we go back to mixed, as I have run into a couple depressed about their losses and not feeling it anymore for bw.
I think the point here is about the ladder iccup system.
So i and not only i played about 4000 games of broodwar give or take. I have played a lot and yet i am still not able to get past D 2000 points again on iccup. The system is broken. What would make new people coming in in my opinion is having another server where people are matched by they skill and true level. A new player comes in. Go to iccup is the first thing they say. Maybe he goes there, gets bashed several times and then thinks whats the point? when you play a sport the coach puts you with like-skilled guys, maybe better skilled if he sees you have talent and are committing.
To be honest i don' t like laddering. I do it cause it makes me improve and sometimes its the only games available. But i am really sick of the fact that for 5 games i meet 1 guy who crushes me, one guy whom i crush. thats 8/10 . and then the 2 real fun games and that make me improve are played against people of my own skill. people where there is a game going on and not a one-sided massacre.
This league is not the problem, this league is the consequence of the problem. Keep in mind how it started. Many people where still playing iccup and had felt the need to developed a somewhat closer community to protect themselves, learn, grow, have fun, mess around, live broodwar. Now there is not really that userbase anymore. The way to get Broodwar going again, in my opinion, would be developing a new server.
I don' t think the solution is to bring back C-/C players, i don' t think the solution is to keep going like this after this season. I don' t know what the solution is
On August 11 2014 00:35 BigFan wrote: So, I've msg SilverJohnny, no answer. Messaged L_Master, no answer yet. At this point, unless someone else can play from TAKK who hasn't already, I'm gonna have to take the WO for that match :/
TAKK suffered from lack of players because most of TAKK last season are currently unable to play due to hitting C- in iccup in 1v1 in the past :| Even though I recently hit C- and now swapped races I thought I was to good for the league so that why I left :|
ah I see, ya, it's rough to run DRTL when most of TL seems to be in the upper echelons of D. I mean, we have 4 teams right now but as you mentioned, TAKK seems to be having problems and lots of pps etc... so kinda 3.5 teams lol. I think the only way DRTL will survive in the long run since I'm sure most of the remaining members will improve is to allow C- (and maybe some C) players to participate. Looking at previous DRTLs, I was amazed to see 7-8 teams with 10+ players each and now we're down to 3-4 teams with pp needed every week etc... my thoughts lol. Anyways, is there anyone else that can play me or should I just take WO?
Take the walkover since we hadn o heard from Silverjohnny for a little bit and we got 0 subs to give you for terran :|
I would feel bad about a WO seeing as it's 2-2 right now so it's autowin the round lol. Let me talk with my team about it then. How many players do you guys have? Also, races?
On August 11 2014 00:35 BigFan wrote: So, I've msg SilverJohnny, no answer. Messaged L_Master, no answer yet. At this point, unless someone else can play from TAKK who hasn't already, I'm gonna have to take the WO for that match :/
TAKK suffered from lack of players because most of TAKK last season are currently unable to play due to hitting C- in iccup in 1v1 in the past :| Even though I recently hit C- and now swapped races I thought I was to good for the league so that why I left :|
ah I see, ya, it's rough to run DRTL when most of TL seems to be in the upper echelons of D. I mean, we have 4 teams right now but as you mentioned, TAKK seems to be having problems and lots of pps etc... so kinda 3.5 teams lol. I think the only way DRTL will survive in the long run since I'm sure most of the remaining members will improve is to allow C- (and maybe some C) players to participate. Looking at previous DRTLs, I was amazed to see 7-8 teams with 10+ players each and now we're down to 3-4 teams with pp needed every week etc... my thoughts lol. Anyways, is there anyone else that can play me or should I just take WO?
Well, at the time it was thought that having all the C- guys was chasing away the D and D- guys, so it made sense at that point time. It just wasn't very friendly for new players getting into bw. Unfortunately, the influx of new players went down, the old ones didn't really come back, and the consistent ones got too good. So we are in a different context, and in this context a mixed league will probably be best moving forward. However, we will still probably lose people in our current D ranks if we go back to mixed, as I have run into a couple depressed about their losses and not feeling it anymore for bw.
ya, of course. I completely understand what was the reason since I followed this thread since it's beginning but I just feel really sad that we seem to have lost so many players (due to rank) because of the changes. I'm 2-3 atm, gets pretty sad when I feel like I've lost a won game but I would rather go 0-10 or something and have a lot of TL members playing. Would make the community stronger imo though I can understand being depressed over losing since I've experienced it myself.
On August 11 2014 00:35 BigFan wrote: So, I've msg SilverJohnny, no answer. Messaged L_Master, no answer yet. At this point, unless someone else can play from TAKK who hasn't already, I'm gonna have to take the WO for that match :/
TAKK suffered from lack of players because most of TAKK last season are currently unable to play due to hitting C- in iccup in 1v1 in the past :| Even though I recently hit C- and now swapped races I thought I was to good for the league so that why I left :|
ah I see, ya, it's rough to run DRTL when most of TL seems to be in the upper echelons of D. I mean, we have 4 teams right now but as you mentioned, TAKK seems to be having problems and lots of pps etc... so kinda 3.5 teams lol. I think the only way DRTL will survive in the long run since I'm sure most of the remaining members will improve is to allow C- (and maybe some C) players to participate. Looking at previous DRTLs, I was amazed to see 7-8 teams with 10+ players each and now we're down to 3-4 teams with pp needed every week etc... my thoughts lol. Anyways, is there anyone else that can play me or should I just take WO?
Take the walkover since we hadn o heard from Silverjohnny for a little bit and we got 0 subs to give you for terran :|
I would feel bad about a WO seeing as it's 2-2 right now so it's autowin the round lol. Let me talk with my team about it then. How many players do you guys have? Also, races?
On August 11 2014 00:35 BigFan wrote: So, I've msg SilverJohnny, no answer. Messaged L_Master, no answer yet. At this point, unless someone else can play from TAKK who hasn't already, I'm gonna have to take the WO for that match :/
TAKK suffered from lack of players because most of TAKK last season are currently unable to play due to hitting C- in iccup in 1v1 in the past :| Even though I recently hit C- and now swapped races I thought I was to good for the league so that why I left :|
ah I see, ya, it's rough to run DRTL when most of TL seems to be in the upper echelons of D. I mean, we have 4 teams right now but as you mentioned, TAKK seems to be having problems and lots of pps etc... so kinda 3.5 teams lol. I think the only way DRTL will survive in the long run since I'm sure most of the remaining members will improve is to allow C- (and maybe some C) players to participate. Looking at previous DRTLs, I was amazed to see 7-8 teams with 10+ players each and now we're down to 3-4 teams with pp needed every week etc... my thoughts lol. Anyways, is there anyone else that can play me or should I just take WO?
Well, at the time it was thought that having all the C- guys was chasing away the D and D- guys, so it made sense at that point time. It just wasn't very friendly for new players getting into bw. Unfortunately, the influx of new players went down, the old ones didn't really come back, and the consistent ones got too good. So we are in a different context, and in this context a mixed league will probably be best moving forward. However, we will still probably lose people in our current D ranks if we go back to mixed, as I have run into a couple depressed about their losses and not feeling it anymore for bw.
ya, of course. I completely understand what was the reason since I followed this thread since it's beginning but I just feel really sad that we seem to have lost so many players (due to rank) because of the changes. I'm 2-3 atm, gets pretty sad when I feel like I've lost a won game but I would rather go 0-10 or something and have a lot of TL members playing. Would make the community stronger imo though I can understand being depressed over losing since I've experienced it myself.
TAKK got only 3 terrans and one of them is inactive :| we got 3 protosses 2 zergs with one of them seem to lost his passion for bw :| We might be getting another zerg.
On August 11 2014 05:59 pebble444 wrote: I think the point here is about the ladder iccup system.
So i and not only i played about 4000 games of broodwar give or take. I have played a lot and yet i am still not able to get past D 2000 points again on iccup. The system is broken. What would make new people coming in in my opinion is having another server where people are matched by they skill and true level. A new player comes in. Go to iccup is the first thing they say. Maybe he goes there, gets bashed several times and then thinks whats the point? when you play a sport the coach puts you with like-skilled guys, maybe better skilled if he sees you have talent and are committing.
To be honest i don' t like laddering. I do it cause it makes me improve and sometimes its the only games available. But i am really sick of the fact that for 5 games i meet 1 guy who crushes me, one guy whom i crush. thats 8/10 . and then the 2 real fun games and that make me improve are played against people of my own skill. people where there is a game going on and not a one-sided massacre.
This league is not the problem, this league is the consequence of the problem. Keep in mind how it started. Many people where still playing iccup and had felt the need to developed a somewhat closer community to protect themselves, learn, grow, have fun, mess around, live broodwar. Now there is not really that userbase anymore. The way to get Broodwar going again, in my opinion, would be developing a new server.
I don' t think the solution is to bring back C-/C players, i don' t think the solution is to keep going like this after this season. I don' t know what the solution is
I don't have as much games played as you do however I have also experienced what you have. A couple of days back, I played some iccup since I haven't done so in a while. I played and won all 3 games but my opponents especially one of them weren't on the same level. As an example, TvT, close spawns on FS, my terran opponent just sat on two bases after I denied his third and made a large MM force off 2 rax before getting a factory then sat back with just tanks. All I had to do was make more units, get upgrades then roll him over. I doubt he enjoyed that loss. I've been in similar situations as well where I've been rolled by stronger players who were also D(or D+ at best) and it's not fun either.
I played some more iccup today against a player on a similar level and felt that it could've gone either way if I didn't make silly mistakes as usual lol. The only reason I feel ok with having C players back in was because it'll fix the lack of players problem and at the same time, I feel it would make the community tighter regardless of the level difference. I do agree though. A new server that matches you to the best skill level is what the community really needs. Both for attracting new comers and for maintaining those playing atm.
I totally agree about the lack of true skill level problem. Of course in an online environment that is always going to happen, because you will have people of a much greater skill who could win 90% of their games at their ladder rating, but they will lose games on purpose just to stay around that rating, so they can continue to crush anybody whenever they want.
Personally I feel bad when I meet what is obviously a new player and I am still advertising games as D/D- but there is obviously a huge gap in mechanics. Of course I want to win, because I am always getting crushed, but it's those players who need wins the most in order to continue playing the game, and getting enjoyment out of it.
I honestly don't see myself playing a lot of BW in the future. I will try to practice a little and maybe participate in 1-2 matches of the remaining DRTL season, because I feel I owe that much at least to my team for signing up, but really the enjoyment is gone when it feels like you're just getting crushed by people who get kicks from it. Hard to know your true skill / ladder rating when every game is a loss, some might be close, and others you get crushed, and the opponents' ratings are all about the same as you.
but really the enjoyment is gone when it feels like you're just getting crushed by people who get kicks from it.
Do you feel there are people in our league now like that? I think there are some players, that if the league continues and remains pure D, would probably have to be moved up, but I can't think of anyone that's intentionally tanking their games to stay in the league.
^ I think he was talking about iccup though I could be mistaken. So far, I haven't seen anything to indicate anyone tanking their ranking to play in DRTL but I can understand why they might do it.
On August 11 2014 06:45 hp.Shell wrote: I totally agree about the lack of true skill level problem. Of course in an online environment that is always going to happen, because you will have people of a much greater skill who could win 90% of their games at their ladder rating, but they will lose games on purpose just to stay around that rating, so they can continue to crush anybody whenever they want.
Personally I feel bad when I meet what is obviously a new player and I am still advertising games as D/D- but there is obviously a huge gap in mechanics. Of course I want to win, because I am always getting crushed, but it's those players who need wins the most in order to continue playing the game, and getting enjoyment out of it.
I honestly don't see myself playing a lot of BW in the future. I will try to practice a little and maybe participate in 1-2 matches of the remaining DRTL season, because I feel I owe that much at least to my team for signing up, but really the enjoyment is gone when it feels like you're just getting crushed by people who get kicks from it. Hard to know your true skill / ladder rating when every game is a loss, some might be close, and others you get crushed, and the opponents' ratings are all about the same as you.
well, even in SCII which has the kind of ladder we would like, you still have players that purposely drop games to keep their 'level' low. I don't think it's something that can be fixed easily though I understand what the main problem is.
ya, rolling over a new player isn't fun though at least you get the win but it feels terrible from their end. Best thing you can do is mention TL for them and give them some tips. In my TvT, I told him he needed more workers at this expansion though I dunno if he understood that.
I think we as a community should find a solution to that problem whether through a new server that automatches or other means but it has to be a community effort.
Maybe its better to change the idea behind the league and leave D ranks...and go to something like division. Where you have division 2 for D ranks and division 1 for C ranks...and ideal a pro league for the best players, B and above. And players, if showing good results, move up/down to the next division. This way, you have people in a league who are close in skill and better players go up ot the better league and bad players go down. (also, teams of any division would be able to sign any player, for example a new guy is C+, he doesnt have to start in the lowest league) ...maybe add some judgement, to fight smurfes and people like that.
The problem i see with this is the activity....having enough people for 2 divisions to do so. (if more people, more divisions to determine skill differences are even better)
...Maybe we should make a thread or something were we can discuss the future of Ranks Team League. Or talk here (after this season ends).
ps: another thing is advertising broodwar leagues on other websites....players from outside need to know about it, to become interested and part of it. at the end, there are many reasons for players to retire (own family for example). a new line of players is needed, no matter what the league format is like.
We're still missing lots of games played for these weeks sadly. Any news from anyone?
Colon I can play our game tomorrow evening if that's ok with you (Evening UK time) so come on Skype and we can arrange it. If I'm missing any results from these weeks let me know and I'll update this post. Just wanted to make it easier to follow what's going on.
We're still missing lots of games played for these weeks sadly. Any news from anyone?
Colon I can play our game tomorrow evening if that's ok with you (Evening UK time) so come on Skype and we can arrange it. If I'm missing any results from these weeks let me know and I'll update this post. Just wanted to make it easier to follow what's going on.
Hey everybody! I'm gonna cast Week 5 sB vs DeSPA and Week 6 sB vs AFK tomorrow at 14:00 PDT (I think its called right now) or 6:00 KST or 23:00 CET! If captains of any teams want to send me uncasted reps I will be happy to cast those in addition and/or at a later date! Hope to see you there =)
On August 16 2014 12:01 MinscandBoo wrote: Hey everybody! I'm gonna cast Week 5 sB vs DeSPA and Week 6 sB vs AFK tomorrow at 14:00 PDT (I think its called right now) or 6:00 KST or 23:00 CET! If captains of any teams want to send me uncasted reps I will be happy to cast those in addition and/or at a later date! Hope to see you there =)
@iykguil: Something came up and I might not make it back home in time for our match but I try to. If you have some spare time you can wait for me in the channel. If not PM me for PP date.
On August 16 2014 23:34 Biolunar wrote: @iykguil: Something came up and I might not make it back home in time for our match but I try to. If you have some spare time you can wait for me in the channel. If not PM me for PP date.
On August 15 2014 17:12 iykguil wrote: Not sure who I'm playing against, but I'd like to pp for Sunday or later. Feel free to choose time.
On August 16 2014 12:01 MinscandBoo wrote: Hey everybody! I'm gonna cast Week 5 sB vs DeSPA and Week 6 sB vs AFK tomorrow at 14:00 PDT (I think its called right now) or 6:00 KST or 23:00 CET! If captains of any teams want to send me uncasted reps I will be happy to cast those in addition and/or at a later date! Hope to see you there =)
On August 16 2014 23:34 Biolunar wrote: @iykguil: Something came up and I might not make it back home in time for our match but I try to. If you have some spare time you can wait for me in the channel. If not PM me for PP date.
On August 16 2014 12:01 MinscandBoo wrote: Hey everybody! I'm gonna cast Week 5 sB vs DeSPA and Week 6 sB vs AFK tomorrow at 14:00 PDT (I think its called right now) or 6:00 KST or 23:00 CET! If captains of any teams want to send me uncasted reps I will be happy to cast those in addition and/or at a later date! Hope to see you there =)
DRTL Cast looks like it will be delayed as I will be participating in the STPL cast. Hope you guys don't mind. VODs of the DRTL cast will be uploaded to my youtube/will be on my Twitch channel (for a while) for anyone that won't be able to catch them live.
On August 17 2014 05:34 MinscandBoo wrote: DRTL Cast looks like it will be delayed as I will be participating in the STPL cast. Hope you guys don't mind. VODs of the DRTL cast will be uploaded to my youtube/will be on my Twitch channel (for a while) for anyone that won't be able to catch them live.
DRTL way more important bro, tell STPL to delay the cast for DRTL ;D
I'd say yes. But we still have week 7 and 8 to resolve to determine places so we know who plays who in the finals. (I assume 1st plays 4th, and 2nd plays 3rd, then winners play winners for 1st and 2nd, and losers play each other for 3rd and 4th.)
iykguil still hasn’t contacted me about the PP date. Advise!
Edit: maybe more details are needed: He wrote about PPing to Sunday in this thread. I PMed my suggestion Sunday 19:00CEST (same as normal playtime), no response. I didn’t know if he read the PM, so I waited an hour for him to show up but nothing. And no further responses to my second PM yet.
On August 19 2014 09:03 Biolunar wrote: iykguil still hasn’t contacted me about the PP date. Advise!
Edit: maybe more details are needed: He wrote about PPing to Sunday in this thread. I PMed my suggestion Sunday 19:00CEST (same as normal playtime), no response. I didn’t know if he read the PM, so I waited an hour for him to show up but nothing. And no further responses to my second PM yet.
iykguil is having issues with playing because he is moving atm. I not his captain for drtl but I am for stpl
On August 19 2014 09:03 Biolunar wrote: iykguil still hasn’t contacted me about the PP date. Advise!
Edit: maybe more details are needed: He wrote about PPing to Sunday in this thread. I PMed my suggestion Sunday 19:00CEST (same as normal playtime), no response. I didn’t know if he read the PM, so I waited an hour for him to show up but nothing. And no further responses to my second PM yet.
iykguil is having issues with playing because he is moving atm. I not his captain for drtl but I am for stpl
Stealth Bunnies: If he can’t play find a replacement sooner than later or it’s gonna be a walkover
On August 19 2014 09:03 Biolunar wrote: iykguil still hasn’t contacted me about the PP date. Advise!
Edit: maybe more details are needed: He wrote about PPing to Sunday in this thread. I PMed my suggestion Sunday 19:00CEST (same as normal playtime), no response. I didn’t know if he read the PM, so I waited an hour for him to show up but nothing. And no further responses to my second PM yet.
iykguil is having issues with playing because he is moving atm. I not his captain for drtl but I am for stpl
Stealth Bunnies: If he can’t play find a replacement sooner than later or it’s gonna be a walkover
Hold your horses, we have until Thursday.
Iykguil said he was available to play this week, but I was only just aware last night that he hasn't made contact to find a time. I will try to raise him, or will you accept a replacement player?
On August 19 2014 14:48 amazingxkcd wrote: Hate to be a bitch, but I would like to claim a WO. Scarbo hasn't contacted me yet and it's already Tuesday. I can't wait a week to play a game...
That's odd. He might just not be monitoring the thread (or maybe lost interest?). I've seen him hanging out on ICCup and has been playing ladder games daily.
On August 19 2014 09:03 Biolunar wrote: iykguil still hasn’t contacted me about the PP date. Advise!
Edit: maybe more details are needed: He wrote about PPing to Sunday in this thread. I PMed my suggestion Sunday 19:00CEST (same as normal playtime), no response. I didn’t know if he read the PM, so I waited an hour for him to show up but nothing. And no further responses to my second PM yet.
iykguil is having issues with playing because he is moving atm. I not his captain for drtl but I am for stpl
Stealth Bunnies: If he can’t play find a replacement sooner than later or it’s gonna be a walkover
Hold your horses, we have until Thursday.
Iykguil said he was available to play this week, but I was only just aware last night that he hasn't made contact to find a time. I will try to raise him, or will you accept a replacement player?
If he is able to play that’s fine. If he isn’t just bring in a sub, race doesn’t matter either.
Thanks for the cast man, made me blush when you point out my mistakes >< I showed my brother and he was enjoying and laughing with your casting "This guy is funny"
My name was spelt wrongly in there, but I guess it was because qikz wrote it wrongly >_> (and I didn't correct him either)
Thanks for the cast man, made me blush when you point out my mistakes >< I showed my brother and he was enjoying and laughing with your casting "This guy is funny"
My name was spelt wrongly in there, but I guess it was because qikz wrote it wrongly >_> (and I didn't correct him either)
Thanks! It's D ranks =) We all make plenty of mistakes. You played quite well that game though, I especially liked how safe you were against drop play(easy way for Terran to equalize an advantage) Yeah everyone's names are taking directly off the post I find in this thread giving the lineups so if anyone's is misspelled there I will most likely have it the same on my overlay thingy.
Thanks for the cast man, made me blush when you point out my mistakes >< I showed my brother and he was enjoying and laughing with your casting "This guy is funny"
My name was spelt wrongly in there, but I guess it was because qikz wrote it wrongly >_> (and I didn't correct him either)
Thanks! It's D ranks =) We all make plenty of mistakes. You played quite well that game though, I especially liked how safe you were against drop play(easy way for Terran to equalize an advantage) Yeah everyone's names are taking directly off the post I find in this thread giving the lineups so if anyone's is misspelled there I will most likely have it the same on my overlay thingy.
yes, he's right, we all make plenty of mistakes XD Gotta agree though. You played a good strat in our game
but really the enjoyment is gone when it feels like you're just getting crushed by people who get kicks from it.
Do you feel there are people in our league now like that? I think there are some players, that if the league continues and remains pure D, would probably have to be moved up, but I can't think of anyone that's intentionally tanking their games to stay in the league.
No, though it did feel that way back in DRTL2. It's simply too much of a hassle to get games with players of confirmed rank. BW isn't important enough to me to stick to a schedule, so whenever I wanted games, I would ask in chat or via PM. But mostly, I didn't have much success getting practice at those times when I felt like playing, so I would go ladder. The ladder is the problem and can't be fixed... it's like asking everyone to stop playing online, move to Korea and go to a PC Bang to play starcraft so there's a real environment... just not going to happen.
Of course there are people out there who can be basically confirmed of their true rank just by playing them many times, but they are few when you're a beginner, and it's tough to be wanting to play all the time so that you can get a game in when someone else wants to play on a whim.
Thanks for the cast man, made me blush when you point out my mistakes >< I showed my brother and he was enjoying and laughing with your casting "This guy is funny"
My name was spelt wrongly in there, but I guess it was because qikz wrote it wrongly >_> (and I didn't correct him either)
Thanks! It's D ranks =) We all make plenty of mistakes. You played quite well that game though, I especially liked how safe you were against drop play(easy way for Terran to equalize an advantage) Yeah everyone's names are taking directly off the post I find in this thread giving the lineups so if anyone's is misspelled there I will most likely have it the same on my overlay thingy.
yes, he's right, we all make plenty of mistakes XD Gotta agree though. You played a good strat in our game
Thanks BigFan and Minsc, I developed that strat by myself specially for BigFan
So all of SB's games have been played, and we are good to go into the Finals. As far as I know Week 7-9 still have unresolved games for the non-SB matchups.
Hey, I'm probably very late on this, but I'd love to be a part of this.
ICCup: discarded Race: Zerg Max Rank: D
If i'm not able to get into any league sort of thing, it'd still be great to have some friends to play with on ICCup. Already whored myself out on the practice partners thread, let's get some games going!
On August 31 2014 06:05 discarded wrote: Hey, I'm probably very late on this, but I'd love to be a part of this.
ICCup: discarded Race: Zerg Max Rank: D
If i'm not able to get into any league sort of thing, it'd still be great to have some friends to play with on ICCup. Already whored myself out on the practice partners thread, let's get some games going!
Before anyone else, welcome onboard as new member of TAKK - Team All Kill Kings. Also, can you pm me your skype, so you can be added there?
On August 31 2014 06:05 discarded wrote: Hey, I'm probably very late on this, but I'd love to be a part of this.
ICCup: discarded Race: Zerg Max Rank: D
If i'm not able to get into any league sort of thing, it'd still be great to have some friends to play with on ICCup. Already whored myself out on the practice partners thread, let's get some games going!
Before anyone else, welcome onboard as new member of TAKK - Team All Kill Kings. Also, can you pm me your skype, so you can be added there?
Maybe you can use him right away to help clear out the backlog of games for weeks 7-9? It would be nice to close off the DRTL with some finality, rather than just fade out.
We're still missing lots of games played for these weeks sadly. Any news from anyone?
Colon I can play our game tomorrow evening if that's ok with you (Evening UK time) so come on Skype and we can arrange it. If I'm missing any results from these weeks let me know and I'll update this post. Just wanted to make it easier to follow what's going on.
Sent a PM with my Skype to whoever asked. If you don't see me on there, just PM me here or catch me on ICCup in op TeamLiquid, USEast, or Fish. I use the same name on all servers. I'm usually on SC when I'm not working. Lemme know what I gotta do.
On September 04 2014 14:31 pebble444 wrote: okay i propose to create a skype group beetwen all active members of all teams, else this shit will not end... who' s with me?
On September 04 2014 14:31 pebble444 wrote: okay i propose to create a skype group beetwen all active members of all teams, else this shit will not end... who' s with me?
On September 09 2014 05:04 Falling wrote: He exclusively posts in the running thread these days.
I've been absurd levels of swamped. 17 credit hours, all upperdivision, working 20 hours a week, coaching HS golf, and training 15-20 hours a week has been pretty much the name of the game. I'll try to facilitate more as needed since things are settling into a rhythm it seems, but I can't make any promises.
Some of these things came up last minute, like coaching golf, but I should have at least had someone in place to help facilitate once things got crazy.
I don't know if this season will ever get properly finished, but I wanted to throw together a player ranking like Sync did in previous seasons. Now mind you, this is only updated up to and including Week 6 because that was the last week properly concluded for all teams. There would be some pretty big shifts up and down I think as I went on a loss streak and several others won a bunch. But here it is anyways.
From the looks of things, w.o. wins were weighted less than proper wins, but w.o. losses were weighted more heavily than proper losses and so I used the same weighting.
Nice ranking. I think we need to do semis and finals these next couple of weeks before we all get even busier. Can the captains please discuss what games are still missing so that we can draw the semis to finish this team league?
Missing Games: Week 7 Despa vs AFK Jello vs xkcd on Mist
Week 8 Despa vs Takk gtank vs BisuDagger on Mist ColonBruise vs Qikz on CB ??? vs AtomicArchon on Destination Week 9 Takk vs AFK ??? vs L1ghtning on CB ??? vs floaldriblere on Mist
i had 3 wins and 1 wo win, but in the chart it shows i didnt win at all. im abyssal. ive beaten golondrin (i think) first week, then reuental in the second or third, and anarchonistic in the later stages.
On September 20 2014 07:40 Falling wrote: Oops. You are right. I had it recorded in my original chart, but I missed it when ordering it into my second chart. The rankings are now amended.
you also missed my one W.O. win over TAKK lol so should be 2-2-1
On September 20 2014 08:51 Falling wrote: No, you didn't read the qualifier It's updated to and including Week 6. Week 7 follows Week 6 and is therefore not included.
actually I did the first time lol but then forgot when I posted XD
Week 9 Takk vs AFK ??? vs L1ghtning on CB ??? vs floaldriblere on Mist
TAKK had no players to put on these maps ; I took w/o and I believe l1ghtning did the same.
Ok, I guess that the 4th series with Takk decided by w.o.'s and the third where they were up in wins, and then lost due to w.o.'s. So I guess that's par for the course. That just leaves week 7 and 8.
I voted mid december but I don't really care... I'm not confident we'll have much participation for the playoffs regardless of when we hold them. I myself have barely touched the game since my last match.
On October 17 2014 12:27 MinscandBoo wrote: I voted mid december but I don't really care... I'm not confident we'll have much participation for the playoffs regardless of when we hold them. I myself have barely touched the game since my last match.
feel the same way... there' s an empty feeling around here...
On October 17 2014 12:27 MinscandBoo wrote: I voted mid december but I don't really care... I'm not confident we'll have much participation for the playoffs regardless of when we hold them. I myself have barely touched the game since my last match.
feel the same way... there' s an empty feeling around here...
There is, and maybe there won't be enough but let's see. There does sadly seem to be less new blood these days.
On October 17 2014 12:27 MinscandBoo wrote: I voted mid december but I don't really care... I'm not confident we'll have much participation for the playoffs regardless of when we hold them. I myself have barely touched the game since my last match.
feel the same way... there' s an empty feeling around here...
There is, and maybe there won't be enough but let's see. There does sadly seem to be less new blood these days.
Well, yeah. Thats what happens when you only allow "true" D players Lol.
On October 17 2014 12:27 MinscandBoo wrote: I voted mid december but I don't really care... I'm not confident we'll have much participation for the playoffs regardless of when we hold them. I myself have barely touched the game since my last match.
feel the same way... there' s an empty feeling around here...
There is, and maybe there won't be enough but let's see. There does sadly seem to be less new blood these days.
Well, yeah. Thats what happens when you only allow "true" D players Lol.
Can't say I agree. Up through at least season 3, and I'm pretty sure 4 as well there were more than enough true D guys for a league, and the first several DRTLs were absolutely true D leagues. There just doesn't seem to be as many new guys coming in to play, and over time many of the initial guys either ranked up or stopped playing very actively.
On October 17 2014 12:27 MinscandBoo wrote: I voted mid december but I don't really care... I'm not confident we'll have much participation for the playoffs regardless of when we hold them. I myself have barely touched the game since my last match.
feel the same way... there' s an empty feeling around here...
There is, and maybe there won't be enough but let's see. There does sadly seem to be less new blood these days.
Well, yeah. Thats what happens when you only allow "true" D players Lol.
Can't say I agree. Up through at least season 3, and I'm pretty sure 4 as well there were more than enough true D guys for a league, and the first several DRTLs were absolutely true D leagues. There just doesn't seem to be as many new guys coming in to play, and over time many of the initial guys either ranked up or stopped playing very actively.
I think the problem is that the first seasons were true D leagues, but then as it went on the people who practiced and played the most for it eventually got to C- and whether or not they can hold it or not, they still got C-. I understand why you'd bar those people, but eventually everyone in DRTL will make it out of D/D+ given enough time to play as most of the newcomers who don't end up becoming C- themselves either don't have much time to play at all or don't have active opponents to practice with. I know if it wasn't for the help of the active players in DeSPA and people like Nina and Arcania I probably never would've gotten out of D.
The others like a lot of the people who signed up for this season just go inactive and leave the active people still in D/D+ and eligible to play, kind of stuck as they don't have anyone to play with in their teams or their opponents never show up which is really sad. Personally I think it'd be better to combine both D and CRTL since both of them seem to be struggling to find people (saying that I've not seen anything about a CRTL since I hit C- ages ago, sadly I haven't had much time to play recently myself )
On October 17 2014 12:27 MinscandBoo wrote: I voted mid december but I don't really care... I'm not confident we'll have much participation for the playoffs regardless of when we hold them. I myself have barely touched the game since my last match.
feel the same way... there' s an empty feeling around here...
There is, and maybe there won't be enough but let's see. There does sadly seem to be less new blood these days.
Well, yeah. Thats what happens when you only allow "true" D players Lol.
Can't say I agree. Up through at least season 3, and I'm pretty sure 4 as well there were more than enough true D guys for a league, and the first several DRTLs were absolutely true D leagues. There just doesn't seem to be as many new guys coming in to play, and over time many of the initial guys either ranked up or stopped playing very actively.
I think the problem is that the first seasons were true D leagues, but then as it went on the people who practiced and played the most for it eventually got to C- and whether or not they can hold it or not, they still got C-. I understand why you'd bar those people, but eventually everyone in DRTL will make it out of D/D+ given enough time to play as most of the newcomers who don't end up becoming C- themselves either don't have much time to play at all or don't have active opponents to practice with. I know if it wasn't for the help of the active players in DeSPA and people like Nina and Arcania I probably never would've gotten out of D.
The others like a lot of the people who signed up for this season just go inactive and leave the active people still in D/D+ and eligible to play, kind of stuck as they don't have anyone to play with in their teams or their opponents never show up which is really sad. Personally I think it'd be better to combine both D and CRTL since both of them seem to be struggling to find people (saying that I've not seen anything about a CRTL since I hit C- ages ago, sadly I haven't had much time to play recently myself )
Something to consider for sure, good thoughts. Might be some changes to next season to allow more players again (assuming I can find one or two people that can help me with the actual day to day running of the league), but perhaps in a manner that prevents say C- guys from getting matches up against guys that can't get to D+. I'll think about, and be open to, format ideas. Only downside to that is that it makes for more work, and definitely makes it harder to get in games if someone doesn't show because you lose the ability to sub in whoever.
Either way, let's plan on playoffs over break and see what happens. I'm going to say playoffs start December 20th. Same time as usual. Finals on January 3rd. Worst case is we don't get much participation and this season ends up being a partial wash; for which I'm largely to blame and apologize for not having my shit together and stuff in place in the event I got really busy.
Now that does leave us with some downtime of about 2 months, so I was thinking of having a short 4-5 week for fun league allowing C- guys to give people some BW to think about and get back to playing. Interest?
Honestly, this season almost worked without a hitch until Takk ran out of players/ steam. December finals sounds good to me.
I need to start practicing again, but I'd be down to play a fun league with C- people.
Regarding a future DRTL and the problem with less true D players, Minsc thought of an idea. Best of 5, three slots reserved for D only, two slots for C-. A D can play up into a C- slot if subs are needed, but a C- can't play down. Balance the slots based on the composition of the entire league of true D compared to C-, but that's the gist of the idea.
We might not have many true D players, but we will probably lose the remaining D/D- if they are consistenly up against C- players.
On October 21 2014 02:36 Falling wrote: Honestly, this season almost worked without a hitch until Takk ran out of players/ steam. December finals sounds good to me.
I need to start practicing again, but I'd be down to play a fun league with C- people.
Regarding a future DRTL and the problem with less true D players, Minsc thought of an idea. Best of 5, three slots reserved for D only, two slots for C-. A D can play up into a C- slot if subs are needed, but a C- can't play down. Balance the slots based on the balance in the entire league of true D compared to C-, but that's the gist of the idea.
We might not have many true D players, but we will probably lose the remaining D/D- if they are consistenly up against C- players.
Absolutely agree with that. Minsc's idea is good, pretty much along the lines of what I was thinking of for an initial template. Actual distribution would probably depend on ratio of C- to D guys.
I'll probably make a thread later today and see what we get for interest for "mini league"
Maybe we should do a tournament for D rankers to increase activity.
But i feel a mix league of D and C is unavoidable, as people who are not really active wont practice and lose there games, which leads to even more losing intereset and only the ones, who want to play the game and doesnt lose their courage after...well a lost game, will stay. And without new people coming in, i think its only a matter of time, before these lowest amateurleague will be vanished, to do one last thing to save them all: put them together.
ps: also its eric's fault, cleary. He was the holy grail, who attracted people into playing D ranks and when he left, everyone felt betrayed and left too. >
Alright. This is coming up in a little over a week for Ro1 of playoffs, but I need to know if its worth having and teams can still field players...or if we are just going to call the end of this season a wash.
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And dont you ruin it. 
Lets just practice and play games and have fun. Cant be so hard, can it be? 
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