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http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/C_Ranks_Teamleague_Season_2
Welcome to the C Ranks Teamleague Season 2! This season will be similar in format to the previous season but with some changes such as no B- players, 6 larger and hopefully more active teams instead of 8 smaller ones, a 10 week season followed by single-elim playoffs, and slightly more modest prizes.
The season is split up into two 5-week round-robin rounds, and each will feature a different map pool and include a community made map.
Free agents from the signup thread were drafted into 1 of 3 teams: US Easy, The Smurfs, and Team 6. Check which team you are on and contact your captain immediately!
TEAMS
ICCup ID (TeamLiquid ID) Stealth Bunnies+ Show Spoiler [7 Players] + sB.Birdie (Birdie) C-  sB.Artanis (Artanis[xp]) C  , v sB.Splax (Splax) C+ sB.Breach (Breach_hu) C+  sB.Sero (Sero) C+ sB.RadekTheMST (radley) C+ , v sB.smokeybear (smokeybear2) C- USEasy+ Show Spoiler [10 Players] + castle[eMg] (LaZeRKiD45) C mSj[Mr.LiR] (LiRidan) C- Lsteel (Lsteel) C- moldylunchboxx (Lakituo) C flyingjelly (fearthequeen) C Jemah (Jemah) C zaMNal (zaMNal) C+ greenelve (greenelve) D mG.arb (arb) C Lion(OD) (dna88) C n.stop)ikan (ikan) D+ pSi2]TheMarine (t0ssboy) C pSi2]XaXo (XaXo[BG]) C+ pSi2]Me_Toka (Me_ToKa) C+ pSi2]Letalis (Letalis) C+ pSi2]GzzZZzz (GGzzZZzz) C pSi2]Corrupt (Corrupt) C pSi2]IcoTuza (icotuza) C  pSi2]Vesk0 (Nb.vesk0) C+ xkcd[win] (amazingxkcd) D , v MVP (Prodigy.MvP) C- ihufa (ihufa) C+ dazed (dazed_spy) C- art_of_turtle (art_of_turtle) C- Jesus-Kaido (Shinokuki) , v Quirinus (quirinus) C Jesus-Arya (LightningStrike) D+ DarkNetHunter (DarkNetHunter) C- sGs.Lmaster (L_Master) C- KaiGreene (KaiGreene) C- Arcania (SnowFantasy) C BaD]Seed (chrisolo) C- Dcembrzerg (dcemberzerg) C- -regg- (regg) C+ jacklinks (STTB) C RulzBoooM (ggrrg) C- HollowMan (HollowAB) C+ , v BSL2-Sky (insanesky) C+ aLc.tonight (tonight) C- Fear_Chaos (Fear_Chaos) C- miso (LTY) C- [SAM]Gohan C- ?? omoy (lightson) D+ L3gendary (L3gendary) C- Sabas[AoV] (sabas123) C- , v sas.zimp (zimp) C+ RedAxis (SynC[gm]) C- oxyacety (oxysc) C+ Miss.Click.. (MissClickkii) C- Mellial (thezanursic) C- oDieN (oDieN) C+ Ever)P(TelecoM (GGzerG) C+ Talent (Siz)Beggar)
FORMAT
League Format
All teams play 1 match per week. There are 6 teams in the league and each team plays every other team twice making the regular season last 10 weeks. The top 4 teams will move on to the playoffs which will be a single elimination, 1st seed vs 4th seed, 3rd seed vs 2nd seed the first week. Then the grand finals and 3rd place match the following week.
Match Format
Best of 5, no ace match. Each set is a best of 1 on a predetermined map. Captains must submit the lineups (and previous week's replays) by Tuesday night/Wednesday morning 24:00 EDT / 6:00 CEST /13:00 KST. Lineups will be posted the following day. All sets need to be played and count towards the set score which will act as the first tiebreaker in the standings.
Time and Date
Games will be played on Sundays at 14:00 EDT / 20:00 CEST / 3:00 KST. Rescheduling is allowed if both players agree to it but games must be played before the replay/lineup submission deadline. League begins on September 29th.
PRIZES
Players will receive points during the regular season as follows.
+2 points per win
+1 point per loss
-2 points per forfeit loss
-1 point per day for captain for late replay/lineup submission
Winning Team
The winning team's players will receive the following prizes.
2-5 points - 1 month TL+
6-9 points - 2 months TL+
10-13 points - 6 months TL+ (or $15)
14+ points - 1 year TL+ (or $25)
Non-Winning Teams
Also, we'll have a couple of prizes for the rest of the players.
MVP (most points): 6 months TL+ (or $15)
Best Effort (most games played, not MVP): 2 months TL+
If there is a tie, a winner will be decided by a random draw.
RULES
READ THEM ALL NOW!
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1. Replays: Winning team captain submits replay pack to cranksteamleague@gmail.com. Replays must be titled "Set#_Player1_Player2". Also, indicate the result of each set in the email. Replays must be submitted before 24:00 EDT / 6:00 CEST /13:00 KST on Tuesday night/Wednesday morning.
2. Lineups: Captains must PM me the lineups including the players' races and map before Tuesday night/ Wednesday morning 24:00 EDT / 6:00 CEST /17:00 KST.
3. Rescheduling: Rescheduling is allowed if both players agree to it, but no later than the replay deadline. Players that need to PP can PM their opponents using their TL ID (listed under the TEAMS section). Opponents must respond to a PM asking for a PP within 48 hours and must make a good effort to reschedule. Simply taking walkovers without a legitimate reason will not be accepted.
4. No Shows: 20 minutes grace for no shows (by 14:20 EDT / 20:20 CEST / 3:20 KST). If there's a no show players must submit screenshots with timestamp using the /time command in ICCup.
5. Substitutions: Teams will be allowed up to 4 substitutions in the event of a no show for the regular season and 0 for the playoffs. If the sub is not made at least 1 hour before the match and communicated to the opposing team and PMed to an admin, a sub is still allowed but the subbed out player will receive a forfeit loss penalty towards his point score. After using the 4 subs any no shows are automatically forfeit loses. The subbed in player can't be one of the players already playing a game that week and must be subbed in before the 20min grace period is up. Substitutes must play the same race as the player they are replacing. The sub doesn't have to play their normal race, they can offrace to meet this rule.
6. Server: All games played on ICCup with LAN latency on unless agreed to by both players. Anti-hack is a must. Players can meet in the op CRTL channel.
7. Race Changes: Race changes are allowed between weeks in the regular season but not the playoffs. PM me before lineup submission date to change your race.
8. No BM in-game or out will be tolerated.
9. You must play on the ID you registered with.
10. Players that are promoted to B- or higher during the season will be allowed to continue playing for the remainder of the season.
11. New players can sign-up during the season up before round 2 begins (week 6). Player transfers are also allowed before round 2 as long as players are transfered to weaker or less active teams and both teams and the admins agree to it.
12. No cheating, smurfing etc. ICCup rules apply.
MAP POOL
CASTERS NEEDED!
If you'd like to cast some games please post in the thread!
Admins: L3gendary & SynC[gm] aka RedAxis
Liquipedia: Spazer
Casters: Lmaster, Arya, & anyone willing.
Signup Thread
Season 1
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GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
Jesus team will prevail in its mission to enlight the world!
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I'm pretty sure Team 6 has this... Everyone knows who the players in the team are, save for me, and it's just loaded with talent (pun intended).
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TBH sB will take this easily 
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On September 23 2013 15:02 SynC[gm] wrote:
I'm pretty sure Team 6 has this... Everyone knows who the players in the team are, save for me, and it's just loaded with talent (pun intended).
Well I wouldn't say that I'm that good, but I'll give you the go ahead
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pSi2's got this.
![[image loading]](http://storage4.album.bg/f76/12212_4583333339072_103260028_n_5769b_30430363.jpg)
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Wouldn't it be better if substitutions could be made last minute?
Often enough players that are not able to show up at the default time, will not (be able to) communicate their absence just a few hours before game time. The teams would notice a missing player only when he actually does not show up on time.
Maybe, the waiting time of 30 minutes should be reduced, too.
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totally agree, last minute sub forced playing the same mu if announch and total wait time smth like 15/20 mins?
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The rules do allow for last minute subs, its just that the subbed out player will still be penalized in points unless its communicated ahead of time. Maybe that wasn't clear so ive changed the wording a bit.
edit: also changed the grace period back to 20min like previous season.
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On September 23 2013 23:56 L3gendary wrote:
The rules do allow for last minute subs, its just that the subbed out player will still be penalized in points unless its communicated ahead of time. Maybe that wasn't clear so ive changed the wording a bit.
I see. This makes sense.
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That's not intimidating, it's just annoying... >.> Team 6 5-0, yo.
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On September 23 2013 19:29 Birdie wrote:TBH sB will take this easily
rofl?
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On September 24 2013 02:05 Fazers wrote:rofl?
sB? StackedBunnies?
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On September 24 2013 07:23 L_Master wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2013 02:05 Fazers wrote:On September 23 2013 19:29 Birdie wrote:TBH sB will take this easily rofl? sB? StackedBunnies?
sB, StuffedBunnies ? oo)
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I'd like to do some casting~
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I'm still Perma banned :D would have loved to cast.
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Why is sB.Sero allowed to play? You listed him as B- and you say in season 2 there will be no B- players allowed. He isn't just one of those players who scrapes the B- level from judging from his 3 accounts on ICCup: sero, sB.sero, Sync. If he plays on 1 account he could reach B level. And he exchanges wins and losses evenly with fold and LancerX with his weakest match-up Terran Vs. Protoss, 2 players you would never allow in this league.
And why let Inf3cted captain a team when he was kicked off CRTL Season 1 for cheating as Kiromastikata.
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this community is being toxic do you realize you are hurting starcraft by asking these questions?
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Sero hit B- after signing up. I was just copy-pasting what I had, I changed it to C+. He's allowed to participate this season but it will be his last. Not long ago he was like C level and I played him a few times then so I'm inclined to believe his improvement is recent. And he went 4-5 last season.
inf3cted isnt doing anything other than submitting lineups and replays. He's still banned from playing but tbh i dont have a good answer for you in this case. It might be better to give captainship to one of the players after the team has coalesced.
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On September 24 2013 11:52 LightningEdge wrote:
Why is sB.Sero allowed to play? You listed him as B- and you say in season 2 there will be no B- players allowed. He isn't just one of those players who scrapes the B- level from judging from his 3 accounts on ICCup: sero, sB.sero, Sync. If he plays on 1 account he could reach B level. And he exchanges wins and losses evenly with fold and LancerX with his weakest match-up Terran Vs. Protoss, 2 players you would never allow in this league.
And why let Inf3cted captain a team when he was kicked off CRTL Season 1 for cheating as Kiromastikata.
i dont see the problem with b- since c+ can take a game or two off of b- iccup is a horrible judgement of skill since people are either horrible or they are some what decent and lancerx has been the same rank since the beginning of iccup hes like a robot i've watched him lose to draws zerg like 5-0 when draws zerg was like c/c+ level and fold is around c/c+ level isnt he? and inf3cted is just the captain hes not playing i dont see the point in kicking people out of a community for one stupid decision.
and also i dont even see you in the crtl teams so why are you complaining ?
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On September 24 2013 13:36 Siz)Beggar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2013 11:52 LightningEdge wrote:
Why is sB.Sero allowed to play? You listed him as B- and you say in season 2 there will be no B- players allowed. He isn't just one of those players who scrapes the B- level from judging from his 3 accounts on ICCup: sero, sB.sero, Sync. If he plays on 1 account he could reach B level. And he exchanges wins and losses evenly with fold and LancerX with his weakest match-up Terran Vs. Protoss, 2 players you would never allow in this league.
And why let Inf3cted captain a team when he was kicked off CRTL Season 1 for cheating as Kiromastikata. and inf3cted is just the captain hes not playing i dont see the point in kicking people out of a community for one stupid decision.
The point is to make an example of cheaters, so that others don't think they'll get away with cheating.
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On September 24 2013 13:38 Birdie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2013 13:36 Siz)Beggar wrote:On September 24 2013 11:52 LightningEdge wrote:
Why is sB.Sero allowed to play? You listed him as B- and you say in season 2 there will be no B- players allowed. He isn't just one of those players who scrapes the B- level from judging from his 3 accounts on ICCup: sero, sB.sero, Sync. If he plays on 1 account he could reach B level. And he exchanges wins and losses evenly with fold and LancerX with his weakest match-up Terran Vs. Protoss, 2 players you would never allow in this league.
And why let Inf3cted captain a team when he was kicked off CRTL Season 1 for cheating as Kiromastikata. and inf3cted is just the captain hes not playing i dont see the point in kicking people out of a community for one stupid decision. The point is to make an example of cheaters, so that others don't think they'll get away with cheating.
he didnt cheat though he just smurfed ..
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On September 24 2013 13:39 Siz)Beggar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2013 13:38 Birdie wrote:On September 24 2013 13:36 Siz)Beggar wrote:On September 24 2013 11:52 LightningEdge wrote:
Why is sB.Sero allowed to play? You listed him as B- and you say in season 2 there will be no B- players allowed. He isn't just one of those players who scrapes the B- level from judging from his 3 accounts on ICCup: sero, sB.sero, Sync. If he plays on 1 account he could reach B level. And he exchanges wins and losses evenly with fold and LancerX with his weakest match-up Terran Vs. Protoss, 2 players you would never allow in this league.
And why let Inf3cted captain a team when he was kicked off CRTL Season 1 for cheating as Kiromastikata. and inf3cted is just the captain hes not playing i dont see the point in kicking people out of a community for one stupid decision. The point is to make an example of cheaters, so that others don't think they'll get away with cheating. he didnt cheat though he just smurfed ..
Yeah I'm pretty sure playing for another player without letting others know is cheating.
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Team 6 will win this easily, korean practice regimen incoming.
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Canada8029 Posts
The liquipedia page has been created.
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On September 24 2013 13:46 Birdie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2013 13:39 Siz)Beggar wrote:On September 24 2013 13:38 Birdie wrote:On September 24 2013 13:36 Siz)Beggar wrote:On September 24 2013 11:52 LightningEdge wrote:
Why is sB.Sero allowed to play? You listed him as B- and you say in season 2 there will be no B- players allowed. He isn't just one of those players who scrapes the B- level from judging from his 3 accounts on ICCup: sero, sB.sero, Sync. If he plays on 1 account he could reach B level. And he exchanges wins and losses evenly with fold and LancerX with his weakest match-up Terran Vs. Protoss, 2 players you would never allow in this league.
And why let Inf3cted captain a team when he was kicked off CRTL Season 1 for cheating as Kiromastikata. and inf3cted is just the captain hes not playing i dont see the point in kicking people out of a community for one stupid decision. The point is to make an example of cheaters, so that others don't think they'll get away with cheating. he didnt cheat though he just smurfed .. Yeah I'm pretty sure playing for another player without letting others know is cheating.
so lets kick what little players we have in the community out right? sounds great
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On September 24 2013 14:33 Siz)Beggar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2013 13:46 Birdie wrote:On September 24 2013 13:39 Siz)Beggar wrote:On September 24 2013 13:38 Birdie wrote:On September 24 2013 13:36 Siz)Beggar wrote:On September 24 2013 11:52 LightningEdge wrote:
Why is sB.Sero allowed to play? You listed him as B- and you say in season 2 there will be no B- players allowed. He isn't just one of those players who scrapes the B- level from judging from his 3 accounts on ICCup: sero, sB.sero, Sync. If he plays on 1 account he could reach B level. And he exchanges wins and losses evenly with fold and LancerX with his weakest match-up Terran Vs. Protoss, 2 players you would never allow in this league.
And why let Inf3cted captain a team when he was kicked off CRTL Season 1 for cheating as Kiromastikata. and inf3cted is just the captain hes not playing i dont see the point in kicking people out of a community for one stupid decision. The point is to make an example of cheaters, so that others don't think they'll get away with cheating. he didnt cheat though he just smurfed .. Yeah I'm pretty sure playing for another player without letting others know is cheating. so lets kick what little players we have in the community out right? sounds great
We don't need cheaters in this community.
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On September 24 2013 14:47 Birdie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2013 14:33 Siz)Beggar wrote:On September 24 2013 13:46 Birdie wrote:On September 24 2013 13:39 Siz)Beggar wrote:On September 24 2013 13:38 Birdie wrote:On September 24 2013 13:36 Siz)Beggar wrote:On September 24 2013 11:52 LightningEdge wrote:
Why is sB.Sero allowed to play? You listed him as B- and you say in season 2 there will be no B- players allowed. He isn't just one of those players who scrapes the B- level from judging from his 3 accounts on ICCup: sero, sB.sero, Sync. If he plays on 1 account he could reach B level. And he exchanges wins and losses evenly with fold and LancerX with his weakest match-up Terran Vs. Protoss, 2 players you would never allow in this league.
And why let Inf3cted captain a team when he was kicked off CRTL Season 1 for cheating as Kiromastikata. and inf3cted is just the captain hes not playing i dont see the point in kicking people out of a community for one stupid decision. The point is to make an example of cheaters, so that others don't think they'll get away with cheating. he didnt cheat though he just smurfed .. Yeah I'm pretty sure playing for another player without letting others know is cheating. so lets kick what little players we have in the community out right? sounds great We don't need cheaters in this community.
i can understand if this guy like ruined the whole league or something but you act as if they hadnt already taken some action towards him ... you act like hes savior fixing matches lol
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On September 24 2013 14:53 Siz)Beggar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2013 14:47 Birdie wrote:On September 24 2013 14:33 Siz)Beggar wrote:On September 24 2013 13:46 Birdie wrote:On September 24 2013 13:39 Siz)Beggar wrote:On September 24 2013 13:38 Birdie wrote:On September 24 2013 13:36 Siz)Beggar wrote:On September 24 2013 11:52 LightningEdge wrote:
Why is sB.Sero allowed to play? You listed him as B- and you say in season 2 there will be no B- players allowed. He isn't just one of those players who scrapes the B- level from judging from his 3 accounts on ICCup: sero, sB.sero, Sync. If he plays on 1 account he could reach B level. And he exchanges wins and losses evenly with fold and LancerX with his weakest match-up Terran Vs. Protoss, 2 players you would never allow in this league.
And why let Inf3cted captain a team when he was kicked off CRTL Season 1 for cheating as Kiromastikata. and inf3cted is just the captain hes not playing i dont see the point in kicking people out of a community for one stupid decision. The point is to make an example of cheaters, so that others don't think they'll get away with cheating. he didnt cheat though he just smurfed .. Yeah I'm pretty sure playing for another player without letting others know is cheating. so lets kick what little players we have in the community out right? sounds great We don't need cheaters in this community. i can understand if this guy like ruined the whole league or something but y ou act as if they hadnt already taken some action towards him ... you act like hes savior fixing matches lol
Wait. Genuinely curious here. What action was taken against inf3cted?
Given that he isn't actually a player that would be normally involved or playing in the league, what action could they take? Unless he got like a TL ban or something of the sort.
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On September 24 2013 15:03 L_Master wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2013 14:53 Siz)Beggar wrote:On September 24 2013 14:47 Birdie wrote:On September 24 2013 14:33 Siz)Beggar wrote:On September 24 2013 13:46 Birdie wrote:On September 24 2013 13:39 Siz)Beggar wrote:On September 24 2013 13:38 Birdie wrote:On September 24 2013 13:36 Siz)Beggar wrote:On September 24 2013 11:52 LightningEdge wrote:
Why is sB.Sero allowed to play? You listed him as B- and you say in season 2 there will be no B- players allowed. He isn't just one of those players who scrapes the B- level from judging from his 3 accounts on ICCup: sero, sB.sero, Sync. If he plays on 1 account he could reach B level. And he exchanges wins and losses evenly with fold and LancerX with his weakest match-up Terran Vs. Protoss, 2 players you would never allow in this league.
And why let Inf3cted captain a team when he was kicked off CRTL Season 1 for cheating as Kiromastikata. and inf3cted is just the captain hes not playing i dont see the point in kicking people out of a community for one stupid decision. The point is to make an example of cheaters, so that others don't think they'll get away with cheating. he didnt cheat though he just smurfed .. Yeah I'm pretty sure playing for another player without letting others know is cheating. so lets kick what little players we have in the community out right? sounds great We don't need cheaters in this community. i can understand if this guy like ruined the whole league or something but y ou act as if they hadnt already taken some action towards him ... you act like hes savior fixing matches lol Wait. Genuinely curious here. What action was taken against inf3cted? Given that he isn't actually a player that would be normally involved or playing in the league, what action could they take? Unless he got like a TL ban or something of the sort.
didnt they reverse the score of all the matches he played in?
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On September 24 2013 13:36 Siz)Beggar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2013 11:52 LightningEdge wrote:
Why is sB.Sero allowed to play? You listed him as B- and you say in season 2 there will be no B- players allowed. He isn't just one of those players who scrapes the B- level from judging from his 3 accounts on ICCup: sero, sB.sero, Sync. If he plays on 1 account he could reach B level. And he exchanges wins and losses evenly with fold and LancerX with his weakest match-up Terran Vs. Protoss, 2 players you would never allow in this league.
And why let Inf3cted captain a team when he was kicked off CRTL Season 1 for cheating as Kiromastikata. i dont see the problem with b- since c+ can take a game or two off of b- iccup is a horrible judgement of skill since people are either horrible or they are some what decent and lancerx has been the same rank since the beginning of iccup hes like a robot i've watched him lose to draws zerg like 5-0 when draws zerg was like c/c+ level and fold is around c/c+ level isnt he? and inf3cted is just the captain hes not playing i dont see the point in kicking people out of a community for one stupid decision. and also i dont even see you in the crtl teams so why are you complaining ?
Why do I need to be a participant to question the integrity of the league? I am a spectator and I would like to make sure the participants will be playing in a fair league. And I'm sure I was not the only one with the same questions.
L3gendary is hosting this league of a certain skill cap to provide fun to these players just like the D Ranks Team League. If a player is already past the skill cut-off, the enjoyment of the league is lost to the other participants, thus the league loses its purpose.
Anyhow L3gendary quickly replied to the questions and clarified the situation that needed to be resolved before the league kicked off.
Concerning Inf3cted, he cheated not too long ago, screwed his team and wasted their time, never apologized, and still denies it. What could stop him from doing it again? It's not easy to catch a cheater in Brood war. Now L3gendary and his staff have to do double the work to keep an eye out for him and we will always question if his team is legitimately winning.
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i don't understand why infected is in this leauge after being caught cheating, even not playing. if its only about sending in replays and submiting line ups then what does he really add to the team in the first place. but if somebody really wanted to cheat it doesn't really matter being in the team or not, so I personally don't have problems with it.
and i think the rules should change to "no b- are allowed at the moment of SIGNUP"
that should fix quite alot
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Canada8029 Posts
On September 24 2013 15:35 LightningEdge wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2013 13:36 Siz)Beggar wrote:On September 24 2013 11:52 LightningEdge wrote:
Why is sB.Sero allowed to play? You listed him as B- and you say in season 2 there will be no B- players allowed. He isn't just one of those players who scrapes the B- level from judging from his 3 accounts on ICCup: sero, sB.sero, Sync. If he plays on 1 account he could reach B level. And he exchanges wins and losses evenly with fold and LancerX with his weakest match-up Terran Vs. Protoss, 2 players you would never allow in this league.
And why let Inf3cted captain a team when he was kicked off CRTL Season 1 for cheating as Kiromastikata. i dont see the problem with b- since c+ can take a game or two off of b- iccup is a horrible judgement of skill since people are either horrible or they are some what decent and lancerx has been the same rank since the beginning of iccup hes like a robot i've watched him lose to draws zerg like 5-0 when draws zerg was like c/c+ level and fold is around c/c+ level isnt he? and inf3cted is just the captain hes not playing i dont see the point in kicking people out of a community for one stupid decision. and also i dont even see you in the crtl teams so why are you complaining ? Concerning Inf3cted, he cheated not too long ago, screwed his team and wasted their time, never apologized, and still denies it. What could stop him from doing it again? It's not easy to catch a cheater in Brood war. Now L3gendary and his staff have to do double the work to keep an eye out for him and we will always question if his team is legitimately winning.
Uhh, if inf3cted wanted to cheat, he could do it without being captain/coach. There are valid criticisms to his being on the team, but this is not one of them.
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Why do people care if inf3cted is helping submit lineups and stuff if he is not playing? lol, relax people...
EDIT : didn't make enough emphasis on how much you all need to chill out, CHILL .
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On September 24 2013 14:53 Siz)Beggar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2013 14:47 Birdie wrote:On September 24 2013 14:33 Siz)Beggar wrote:On September 24 2013 13:46 Birdie wrote:On September 24 2013 13:39 Siz)Beggar wrote:On September 24 2013 13:38 Birdie wrote:On September 24 2013 13:36 Siz)Beggar wrote:On September 24 2013 11:52 LightningEdge wrote:
Why is sB.Sero allowed to play? You listed him as B- and you say in season 2 there will be no B- players allowed. He isn't just one of those players who scrapes the B- level from judging from his 3 accounts on ICCup: sero, sB.sero, Sync. If he plays on 1 account he could reach B level. And he exchanges wins and losses evenly with fold and LancerX with his weakest match-up Terran Vs. Protoss, 2 players you would never allow in this league.
And why let Inf3cted captain a team when he was kicked off CRTL Season 1 for cheating as Kiromastikata. and inf3cted is just the captain hes not playing i dont see the point in kicking people out of a community for one stupid decision. The point is to make an example of cheaters, so that others don't think they'll get away with cheating. he didnt cheat though he just smurfed .. Yeah I'm pretty sure playing for another player without letting others know is cheating. so lets kick what little players we have in the community out right? sounds great We don't need cheaters in this community. i can understand if this guy like ruined the whole league or something but you act as if they hadnt already taken some action towards him ... you act like hes savior fixing matches lol
that's why people keep cheating... they see all that happens when they cheat is a slap on the wrist and "the community is too small anyways so don't actually punish him"
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Chill out guys.We don't need Infected to win this league.
![[image loading]](http://wallpoper.com/images/00/07/98/38/bulgarian-lion_00079838.jpg)
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Everyone is just angry that I'm actually B+
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Hi all.Yes i was playing under the name KiroMastikata in the last season of this league.All my games were reversed as a punishment.(Аlthough i played protoss , and zerg vs the players who wasn`t C+ max rank , cryoc and TEH ) I regret my decision to play , even tho there wasn`t any tournament at that moment , and i was inactive more then 2 moths.I`m sorry for that.Ofc. if u don`t want me to be any kind involve in this league , ill talk whit the team and we gonna decide a new leader.
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On September 24 2013 11:52 LightningEdge wrote:
Why is sB.Sero allowed to play? You listed him as B- and you say in season 2 there will be no B- players allowed. He isn't just one of those players who scrapes the B- level from judging from his 3 accounts on ICCup: sero, sB.sero, Sync. If he plays on 1 account he could reach B level. And he exchanges wins and losses evenly with fold and LancerX with his weakest match-up Terran Vs. Protoss, 2 players you would never allow in this league.
And why let Inf3cted captain a team when he was kicked off CRTL Season 1 for cheating as Kiromastikata.
I dont know him that well or his skills but I'm barely C- and I beat him in PvT in a macro game. So dont overestimate him I should say? 
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On September 25 2013 01:28 KaiGreene wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2013 11:52 LightningEdge wrote:
Why is sB.Sero allowed to play? You listed him as B- and you say in season 2 there will be no B- players allowed. He isn't just one of those players who scrapes the B- level from judging from his 3 accounts on ICCup: sero, sB.sero, Sync. If he plays on 1 account he could reach B level. And he exchanges wins and losses evenly with fold and LancerX with his weakest match-up Terran Vs. Protoss, 2 players you would never allow in this league.
And why let Inf3cted captain a team when he was kicked off CRTL Season 1 for cheating as Kiromastikata. I dont know him that well or his skills but I'm barely C- and I beat him in PvT in a macro game. So dont overestimate him I should say?
I've beaten him too.He 4-0'ed Shrinker.They don't overestimate him,beleive me.
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On September 25 2013 01:28 KaiGreene wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2013 11:52 LightningEdge wrote:
Why is sB.Sero allowed to play? You listed him as B- and you say in season 2 there will be no B- players allowed. He isn't just one of those players who scrapes the B- level from judging from his 3 accounts on ICCup: sero, sB.sero, Sync. If he plays on 1 account he could reach B level. And he exchanges wins and losses evenly with fold and LancerX with his weakest match-up Terran Vs. Protoss, 2 players you would never allow in this league.
And why let Inf3cted captain a team when he was kicked off CRTL Season 1 for cheating as Kiromastikata. I dont know him that well or his skills but I'm barely C- and I beat him in PvT in a macro game. So dont overestimate him I should say?
one game doesn't mean anything man.
Sero is more like C+ level. again, rank means nothing nowadays on iccup and people take it way too seriously.
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On September 24 2013 15:35 LightningEdge wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2013 13:36 Siz)Beggar wrote:On September 24 2013 11:52 LightningEdge wrote:
Why is sB.Sero allowed to play? You listed him as B- and you say in season 2 there will be no B- players allowed. He isn't just one of those players who scrapes the B- level from judging from his 3 accounts on ICCup: sero, sB.sero, Sync. If he plays on 1 account he could reach B level. And he exchanges wins and losses evenly with fold and LancerX with his weakest match-up Terran Vs. Protoss, 2 players you would never allow in this league.
And why let Inf3cted captain a team when he was kicked off CRTL Season 1 for cheating as Kiromastikata. i dont see the problem with b- since c+ can take a game or two off of b- iccup is a horrible judgement of skill since people are either horrible or they are some what decent and lancerx has been the same rank since the beginning of iccup hes like a robot i've watched him lose to draws zerg like 5-0 when draws zerg was like c/c+ level and fold is around c/c+ level isnt he? and inf3cted is just the captain hes not playing i dont see the point in kicking people out of a community for one stupid decision. and also i dont even see you in the crtl teams so why are you complaining ? Why do I need to be a participant to question the integrity of the league? I am a spectator and I would like to make sure the participants will be playing in a fair league. And I'm sure I was not the only one with the same questions. L3gendary is hosting this league of a certain skill cap to provide fun to these players just like the D Ranks Team League. If a player is already past the skill cut-off, the enjoyment of the league is lost to the other participants, thus the league loses its purpose. Anyhow L3gendary quickly replied to the questions and clarified the situation that needed to be resolved before the league kicked off. Concerning Inf3cted, he cheated not too long ago, screwed his team and wasted their time, never apologized, and still denies it. What could stop him from doing it again? It's not easy to catch a cheater in Brood war. Now L3gendary and his staff have to do double the work to keep an eye out for him and we will always question if his team is legitimately winning.
but all of this that you are talking is purposeless because you have absolutely no purpose to the league and are impacting it in now way so why would anyone take into consideration or value your opinion whatsoever its like you're talking just to talk for no reason and it's unnecessary
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At this point, as a player, I don't mind either Sero or Inf3cted taking part in CRTL. They just wanna participate, so let them participate.
That being said, I wouldn't condone cheating, but I'm willing to give others the benefit of the doubt.
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On September 25 2013 05:17 SynC[gm] wrote:
At this point, as a player, I don't mind either Sero or Inf3cted taking part in CRTL. They just wanna participate, so let them participate.
That being said, I wouldn't condone cheating, but I'm willing to give others the benefit of the doubt.
Inf3cted is A-. So, I hope you didn't mean as a player.
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On September 25 2013 07:03 tonight wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2013 05:17 SynC[gm] wrote:
At this point, as a player, I don't mind either Sero or Inf3cted taking part in CRTL. They just wanna participate, so let them participate.
That being said, I wouldn't condone cheating, but I'm willing to give others the benefit of the doubt. Inf3cted is A-. So, I hope you didn't mean as a player.
Yeah, otherwise they should change the league name to: "ARTL" (Any Ranks Team League)
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On September 25 2013 08:03 oDieN wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2013 07:03 tonight wrote:On September 25 2013 05:17 SynC[gm] wrote:
At this point, as a player, I don't mind either Sero or Inf3cted taking part in CRTL. They just wanna participate, so let them participate.
That being said, I wouldn't condone cheating, but I'm willing to give others the benefit of the doubt. Inf3cted is A-. So, I hope you didn't mean as a player. Yeah, otherwise they should change the league name to: "ARTL" (Any Ranks Team League)
We used to call that Gambit's Cup
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On September 24 2013 14:29 Spazer wrote:
The liquipedia page has been created.
Wow, thanks so much!
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lineups and replays are normally due in 2.5 hours from this post. But since it's the first week and teams are still forming I will accept lineups up until Thursday night/Friday morning 04:00 GMT (+00:00), 2 days + 2.5 hours from this post without penalty
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On September 25 2013 10:31 L3gendary wrote:
lineups and replays are normally due in 2.5 hours from this post. But since it's the first week and teams are still forming I will accept lineups up until Thursday night/Friday morning 04:00 GMT (+00:00), 2 days + 2.5 hours from this post without penalty
submitted lineups
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Oxide version update!
Oxide is updated to version 1.03. The map pack in the OP is updated so make sure you download the new pack before the matches on sunday
Change log:
-Additional mineral patch in corner expansions.
-Barrier of scrap added between the ramps to the corner expansions to limit attacker mobility.
-Safer 3rd base layout.
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CRTL fighting!! good to see another season starting up GLHF to all
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Oh no... We have another KaiGreene vs TheMarine...? Even after DRTL, this continues.
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On September 27 2013 09:34 SynC[gm] wrote:
Oh no... We have another KaiGreene vs TheMarine...? Even after DRTL, this continues.
Indeed it does! I'll kick his ass tho ^^
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ZvZ is a nightmare! I win only 90% of the games @ Oxide 
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On September 28 2013 06:36 KaiGreene wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2013 09:34 SynC[gm] wrote:
Oh no... We have another KaiGreene vs TheMarine...? Even after DRTL, this continues. Indeed it does! I'll kick his ass tho ^^
You sure will...just like you kicked it the last two times.
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On September 28 2013 14:47 t0ssboy wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2013 06:36 KaiGreene wrote:On September 27 2013 09:34 SynC[gm] wrote:
Oh no... We have another KaiGreene vs TheMarine...? Even after DRTL, this continues. Indeed it does! I'll kick his ass tho ^^ You sure will...just like you kicked it the last two times.
Relax man goddamn. It was just silly banter, you've probably gotten better than me because I've not been playing a lot lately, no need to get all serious on me kiddo.
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On September 28 2013 21:59 KaiGreene wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2013 14:47 t0ssboy wrote:On September 28 2013 06:36 KaiGreene wrote:On September 27 2013 09:34 SynC[gm] wrote:
Oh no... We have another KaiGreene vs TheMarine...? Even after DRTL, this continues. Indeed it does! I'll kick his ass tho ^^ You sure will...just like you kicked it the last two times. Relax man goddamn. It was just silly banter, you've probably gotten better than me because I've not been playing a lot lately, no need to get all serious on me kiddo.
Nah some things never change.
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jacklinks, there is the possibility that I might be late to game-time, but not 30 minutes late, but a little late... Hope you don't mind, I'll try to get back home then ASAP.
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On September 29 2013 04:20 SynC[gm] wrote: jacklinks, there is the possibility that I might be late to game-time, but not 30 minutes late, but a little late... Hope you don't mind, I'll try to get back home then ASAP.
no problem
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so supposedly Talent might not be able to play tomorrow, this is what he said on skype, really not sure....
[11:48:44 PM] Maurice Payne: hey guys going through a really rough time right now and i wont have anyat all this will be my last time on here sorry about this
[11:49:07 PM] Ever)P(TelecoM: wat?
[11:49:16 PM] Ever)P(TelecoM: any what?
[11:49:22 PM] Ever)P(TelecoM: u cant play tomorrow or ur quittin sc all together or what
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its reese 101, he got IRL drama
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i'm sorry i had an emergency come up i don't know when i'll be back.
sabas leave your skype and i'll contact you as soon as it's possible. if you have to you can take w.o, but if not please leave some contact information
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ye sorry, xkcd said 11am my time, its 2pm, no worries folks! everything is good to go!!!!!!
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mG.arb cant make it, please sub greenelve in his spot vs sB.Splax
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can me lmaster and xkcd cast? tri-cast ?
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![[image loading]](http://wallchips.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Lion-Roar-Animal-Wide-Wallpaper-Backgrounds.jpg)
Fury of MvP
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MvP,corrupt is waiting in channel.
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I think MVP blew his switch fuse again
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On September 30 2013 03:00 Prodigy.MvP wrote:Fury of MvP
:D :D :D :D
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I will be playing Zerg this season but I won't play zvz so I will zvt instead
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Russian Federation58 Posts
hi
admins. why b- players r admitted for the league?
the players like a sero have standart b-\b skill. I played with him many games. he has more than 160 eamp and strong macro.
What is the point to create a league with such a name, if it held such players as sero.
IMHO This kills all the intrigue and balance in the teams.
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On October 01 2013 02:19 regg wrote:
hi
admins. why b- players r admitted for the league?
the players like a sero have standart b-\b skill. I played with him many games. he has more than 160 eamp and strong macro.
What is the point to create a league with such a name, if it held such players as sero.
IMHO This kills all the intrigue and balance in the teams.
Although one is enough, other than Sero, there's no other legitimate max B- players in the league. We definitely tried to correct some mistakes made in the first CRTL by not allowing B- players to join, and technically, we have done that.
Sero reached B- after he had signed up, and other than him, there's no one else. As to answer your qualities of Sero, other players have high EAPM as well, and strong macro skills. Maybe his decision-making is what puts him above the peak of C+.
Regardless, he won't be eligible to play in the next season of CRTL.
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Although his max rank indicates C+ on ICCUP past seasons, ihufa has also hit a max rank of B- at one point multiple times under the name MarriahCarrier. I know some people here can back that statement up as well.
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Sero has skill more close to B, than to initial b-. I during lives shall not believe, that such skill it is possible to type for one season. I thought, that administrators are necessary what to correct mistakes, instead of for that what to them to indulge.
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On October 01 2013 03:51 regg wrote:
Sero has skill more close to B, than to initial b-. I during lives shall not believe, that such skill it is possible to type for one season. I thought, that administrators are necessary what to correct mistakes, instead of for that what to them to indulge.
Regg I'm not sure who you are, but I can only assume a zerg player because unless Sero has vastly improved he doesn't have 160 eapm in TvP or TvT. Unless you're B or higher ranked yourself I don't think you can make a judgment call on his skill level.
I've played quite a few times with Sero and while he is an excellent player, I don't think he's above and beyond this league and certainly the competition.
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On October 01 2013 03:51 regg wrote:
Sero has skill more close to B, than to initial b-. I during lives shall not believe, that such skill it is possible to type for one season. I thought, that administrators are necessary what to correct mistakes, instead of for that what to them to indulge.
Lol.
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On October 01 2013 03:51 regg wrote:
Sero has skill more close to B, than to initial b-. I during lives shall not believe, that such skill it is possible to type for one season. I thought, that administrators are necessary what to correct mistakes, instead of for that what to them to indulge.
lol are you kidding? he's mass games to hit C+ and barely hit B-...
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It's not like he has a losing record on any of his accounts. All his C+ accounts he can hit B- and probably B on, but in reality I don't think it matters and I don't have a problem with him playing.
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On October 01 2013 03:21 Fazers wrote:
Although his max rank indicates C+ on ICCUP past seasons, ihufa has also hit a max rank of B- at one point multiple times under the name MarriahCarrier. I know some people here can back that statement up as well.
I beaten him in a ZvT and he only C+ most likely can't maintain B- at all
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On October 01 2013 05:07 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2013 03:21 Fazers wrote:
Although his max rank indicates C+ on ICCUP past seasons, ihufa has also hit a max rank of B- at one point multiple times under the name MarriahCarrier. I know some people here can back that statement up as well. I beaten him in a ZvT and he only C+ most likely can't maintain B- at all
well i went like 50-40 C rank and im even with sero and if stardom can beat him i doubt he is B rank
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On October 01 2013 05:07 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2013 03:21 Fazers wrote:
Although his max rank indicates C+ on ICCUP past seasons, ihufa has also hit a max rank of B- at one point multiple times under the name MarriahCarrier. I know some people here can back that statement up as well. I beaten him in a ZvT and he only C+ most likely can't maintain B- at all
Ihufa is main zerg. What?
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On October 01 2013 04:22 DarkNetHunter wrote:
Regg I'm not sure who you are, but I can only assume a zerg player because unless Sero has vastly improved he doesn't have 160 eapm in TvP or TvT. Unless you're B or higher ranked yourself I don't think you can make a judgment call on his skill level.
In tvp he has 140 eapm. I asked B \B players who with him played as they estimate it skill in TVP, they have told, what not below B - \B. When my friend play with him, sero has stats about 30-5 (b-)!!!. When I played with it ZvT, (it is a lot of games), on game I understood, that I have no with it chances in macro to game though in the last season I have taken b-(6004 pts). I do not understand, why admins so furiously defend this player, when all the facts on the person.
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On October 01 2013 05:45 regg wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2013 04:22 DarkNetHunter wrote:
Regg I'm not sure who you are, but I can only assume a zerg player because unless Sero has vastly improved he doesn't have 160 eapm in TvP or TvT. Unless you're B or higher ranked yourself I don't think you can make a judgment call on his skill level.
In tvp he has 140 eapm. I asked B \B players who with him played as they estimate it skill in TVP, they have told, what not below B - \B. When my friend play with him, sero has stats about 30-5 (b-)!!!. When I played with it ZvT, (it is a lot of games), on game I understood, that I have no with it chances in macro to game though in the last season I have taken b-(6004 pts). I do not understand, why admins so furiously defend this player, when all the facts on the person.
ye he's so good he cant beat a 50-40 toss (C)
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Sero is not B lol. Subjective perception of skill is irrelevant. He has gotten better, for sure, but I can assure you that from my games against him it's clearly been a recent development. He was losing games to me regularly at the beginning of this year, and now he beat me quite a few in a row.
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Sero isn't actually blue rank, he just bought it from the iCCup store, so he should def. be allowed to play IMO.
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Guys, eapm is helpful, but it may be not relevant to level of play. I have as terran at least 160 eapm and still, because of lacks in other factores, I have nowadays really big problems in making C+ with ratio above 60%. And also i can point out few players, who reach A-, and have maximum 100 eapm.
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Is it too late to join a team for this?
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On October 01 2013 13:50 SnowFantasy wrote:Is it too late to join a team for this?
Not at all. Post your ID, race and max rank.
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On October 01 2013 05:45 regg wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2013 04:22 DarkNetHunter wrote:
Regg I'm not sure who you are, but I can only assume a zerg player because unless Sero has vastly improved he doesn't have 160 eapm in TvP or TvT. Unless you're B or higher ranked yourself I don't think you can make a judgment call on his skill level.
In tvp he has 140 eapm. I asked B \B players who with him played as they estimate it skill in TVP, they have told, what not below B - \B. When my friend play with him, sero has stats about 30-5 (b-)!!!. When I played with it ZvT, (it is a lot of games), on game I understood, that I have no with it chances in macro to game though in the last season I have taken b-(6004 pts). I do not understand, why admins so furiously defend this player, when all the facts on the person.
I have 130-160 eapm and I am C- on a good day. Rlentless has 200 eapm and is C- on a good day. APM or EAPM borderlines on irrelevancy when discussing skill. Why even mention it?
sero has stats about 30-5 (b-)!!!
Clearly bullshit. 30-5 would barely get you to C+ IF you played motw.
I do not understand, why admins so furiously defend this player, when all the facts on the person.
You have yet to list a single fact. All you have done is say some stuff about sero having good stats (mostly meaningless, as quality of opponent can vary tremendously), sero having ok eapm (completely irrelevant), and sero beating you alot.
"Sero beats me alot" may be true, but it isn't a "fact"in explaining that he is B-. An argument against a player because "he has good stats to C rank" and "he beats me alot" is indeed a very shaky argument.
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Russian Federation58 Posts
Clearly bullshit. 30-5 would barely get you to C+ IF you played motw.
1)He can transfer stats
2)He can win tourney
3)...
You have yet to list a single fact. All you have done is say some stuff about sero having good stats (mostly meaningless, as quality of opponent can vary tremendously), sero having ok eapm (completely irrelevant), and sero beating you alot.
"Sero beats me alot" may be true, but it isn't a "fact"in explaining that he is B-. An argument against a player because "he has good stats to C rank" and "he beats me alot" is indeed a very shaky argument.
Facts:
1)he has b- on 2 akks and stoped play when he get this rank. Why???
2)seroqt --> 40-10 C+ 80% winrate, defeated many strong B- ++ players such as koreans from Boss team
sgs.sero --> 63-21 B- 75% winrate
sb.sero --> 80-57 C+ 58% winrate
Sero_ 42-7 C+ 86% winrate
sero- 50-22 C+ 69% winrate
serolol b- 83-48, 63% winrate
3)b\b+ player who play with him bo3 TvP (Sero's baddest mu), says that his skill about b-\b. what about TvZ ???
4)He removed all videos from his channel. WHY ???? I think we can know more from his broadcasts.
5)I am strong c+ player (TvZ my best), last season taken b-, I do not see any chance with him in the macro game. it's a free win for him. I thought that I have the upper threshold for getting into this league was very upset that I could not play it, so I took the b-...
6)Eamp
7)I am not alone, there are players which think as
Really it is not enough of it ???
I do not know what guided the admins when taking these players in the league. Obviously, the level is higher than with a good С+ player. If you look only at the stats at iccup, it is no good will not. I personally know a player B-\ B level, which stops typing B-, because he just too lazy to strain. According to the rules it is easy to pass on this league, but whether it's fun to play with him other players?
There is such sensation that is SERO has many friends on TL...
I believe that the admission of such players as Sero kill any spirit of competition and the incentive to win.
ps
IMHO Better to deny a weaker player than to approve a stronger player.
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On October 01 2013 15:33 regg wrote:1)He can transfer stats 2)He can win tourney 3)... Show nested quote +You have yet to list a single fact. All you have done is say some stuff about sero having good stats (mostly meaningless, as quality of opponent can vary tremendously), sero having ok eapm (completely irrelevant), and sero beating you alot.
"Sero beats me alot" may be true, but it isn't a "fact"in explaining that he is B-. An argument against a player because "he has good stats to C rank" and "he beats me alot" is indeed a very shaky argument. Facts: 1)he has b- on 2 akks and stoped play when he get this rank. Why??? 2)seroqt --> 40-10 C+ 80% winrate, defeated many strong B- ++ players such as koreans from Boss team sgs.sero --> 63-21 B- 75% winrate sb.sero --> 80-57 C+ 58% winrate Sero_ 42-7 C+ 86% winrate sero- 50-22 C+ 69% winrate serolol b- 83-48, 63% winrate 3)b\b+ player who play with him bo3 TvP (Sero's baddest mu), says that his skill about b-\b. what about TvZ ??? 4)He removed all videos from his channel. WHY ???? I think we can know more from his broadcasts. 5)I am strong c+ player (TvZ my best), last season taken b-, I do not see any chance with him in the macro game. it's a free win for him. I thought that I have the upper threshold for getting into this league was very upset that I could not play it, so I took the b-... 6)Eamp 7)I am not alone, there are players which think as Really it is not enough of it ??? I do not know what guided the admins when taking these players in the league. Obviously, the level is higher than with a good С+ player. If you look only at the stats at iccup, it is no good will not. I personally know a player B-\ B level, which stops typing B-, because he just too lazy to strain. According to the rules it is easy to pass on this league, but whether it's fun to play with him other players? There is such sensation that is SERO has many friends on TL... I believe that the admission of such players as Sero kill any spirit of competition and the incentive to win. ps IMHO Better to deny a weaker player than to approve a stronger player.
Even if you transfer stats, it'll still show your record. It won't simply just change your rank to C+ at 0-0.
If he won a tourney, wouldn't that simply disprove your point about reaching B- multiple times?
Lmaster's points about not reaching B- through 30-5 are valid, whereas you are simply just trying to prove him wrong despite going out of context.
Your supposed "facts"?
1) Players tend to stop playing after they reach a certain rank just to keep that rank and not risk losing and lose their rank. Things like that range all the way from A-rank to D-rank.
2) Facts, but hardly anything people didn't know.
3) That's an opinion. It's simply someone's input, which makes it an opinion. As for his skill level, I'm pretty sure we're all one to choose for ourselves, and we think he's eligible to play, at least for the time being.
4) If I played in an extremely competitive league, I wouldn't want people looking off of my videos to see how I play and make strategies around me, especially in a league where the skill gap isn't exactly huge.
5) You not being able to beat him does not make him B-rank. I guess since Lmaster's beaten Bakuryu, he's A-rank? Player A > Player B > Player C doesn't make Player A > Player C.
6) I'm assuming you're referring to EAPM, which again, makes no valid argument. Me, a maximum C- player has reached 170 EAPM in a 30+ minute game. As it has been debated before, APM/EAPM does not correlate with skill.
7) Where are the other players that think so and why haven't they spoken out? Would you like us to set up a poll to see whether players would mind Sero playing or not?
Sero has many friends on Teamliquid? I didn't even know Sero had friends... Regardless, I'm pretty sure we've stated before that he was C+ when he signed up and it was pointless to kick him out in the middle of the season just for reaching B-. I haven't heard from any of the players about motivation to win going downhill just because of Sero. If that's how YOU feel, I'm sorry, but in trying to make YOU feel better, I can't kick out another and deprive him of playing.
When did we not allow anyone "weaker" to play? We have a ceiling, but we have no limit in terms of ground. Anyone from E to C+ can play, and we've yet to deny anyone in those actual range.
Again, I haven't heard anything that's a valid reason as to why he shouldn't play, other than you claiming that other people said he was good, he has high EAPM, and his multiple accounts of C+/B-. We've said it before, he won't be playing after this season. If he proves to be absolutely unstoppable in CRTL and goes on a massive rampage in going undefeated every single week, then we'll make a decision halfway through the season, but unless that happens, he's playing in CRTL2.
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TL;dr: sero isnt that good.
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yeah sero sucks, ill 10-0 and stream it than shove it in regg's face when i get my desktop fellas
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sero is easy man i beat him with scouts in a 40 minute pvt
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Sero belongs in drtl, case closed
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On October 01 2013 13:54 L3gendary wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2013 13:50 SnowFantasy wrote:Is it too late to join a team for this? Not at all. Post your ID, race and max rank.
I'd like to join Jesus team. I'll post my info tonight when I decide what race I want to play. :D
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The "B" rank lost to scouts against a D+ toss..
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On October 01 2013 23:16 SnowFantasy wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2013 13:54 L3gendary wrote:On October 01 2013 13:50 SnowFantasy wrote:Is it too late to join a team for this? Not at all. Post your ID, race and max rank. I'd like to join Jesus team. I'll post my info tonight when I decide what race I want to play. :D
I HOPE TO WELCOME YOU SOON MY BROTHER
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On October 01 2013 23:16 SnowFantasy wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2013 13:54 L3gendary wrote:On October 01 2013 13:50 SnowFantasy wrote:Is it too late to join a team for this? Not at all. Post your ID, race and max rank. I'd like to join Jesus team. I'll post my info tonight when I decide what race I want to play. :D
You probably dont know me but I remember you as being a BW fanatic, like making alot of threads for proleague matches and I always appreciated your input. I would be honored to have you alongside fighting in our team ^^
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On October 02 2013 01:27 KaiGreene wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2013 23:16 SnowFantasy wrote:On October 01 2013 13:54 L3gendary wrote:On October 01 2013 13:50 SnowFantasy wrote:Is it too late to join a team for this? Not at all. Post your ID, race and max rank. I'd like to join Jesus team. I'll post my info tonight when I decide what race I want to play. :D You probably dont know me but I remember you as being a BW fanatic, like making alot of threads for proleague matches and I always appreciated your input. I would be honored to have you alongside fighting in our team ^^
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Sorry to disappoint you but that DEFINITELY wasn't me. I'm like the complete opposite of that. Maybe you remember me from my streams? I think the last time I posted in any thread related to proleague was like 5 years ago >.>
edit: you could be thinking of SiZ.Fantasy
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was regg disallowed? Sero is the same level as shrinker
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@Prodigy.MVP , Corrupt is waiting for u in OP CRTL go ~
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I find it extremely ironic that regg is the one calling Sero out.
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I would like to cast! I can post vods on youtube if necessary.
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I would like to cast with nina since we've been dating now for 3 months
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TL name: SnowFantasy
ID: Arcania
Race: Protoss
Max rank: C
Team: Jesus Team
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On October 02 2013 05:08 ihufa wrote:
I would like to cast with nina since we've been dating now for 3 months
RB
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Any updates from Week 1 games?
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US Easy vs sb results
+ Show Spoiler +sB.smokeybear <Oxide> flyingjelly
sB.RadekTheMST <New Heartbreak Ridge> castle[eMg]
sB.Artanis <Circuit Breaker> Lion(OD)
sB.Sero <Colosseum II> Jemah
sB.Splax <Neo Jade> greenelve(sub)
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On October 01 2013 14:37 LaZeRKiD45 wrote:
sero is soooo dreamy
this
I'm starting a Sero fan club if anyone wants to join. We need someone to write the first article explaining why he should be allowed in this league. There are many worthy candidates in this thread.
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On October 02 2013 15:29 Sero wrote:B SKILLS
haha, you win
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He hasn't proved it was him playing yet.
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Week 2 lineups are up!
Any updates from pSi2 vs Jesus from Week 1?
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New email address!
Send reps, including week 1 reps to cranksteamleague@gmail.com, the same email address as last season, not the one that was posted here earlier.
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On October 03 2013 10:06 SynC[gm] wrote:
Week 2 lineups are up!
Any updates from pSi2 vs Jesus from Week 1?
Only the score is 3:1 in favor of pSi2 can't remember which one of Jesus set that was won but that all I remember 
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http://www.psistorm.eu/news-1644 - we know the results for like two days now.
pSi2 3-2 Jesus
pSi2]Letalis > art_of_turtle @ Oxide
pSi2]GzzZZzz < ihufa @ New Heartbreak Ridge
pSi2]Corrupt > MVP @ Circuit Breaker
pSi2]Me_Toka > sGs.Lmaster @ Colosseum II
pSi2]TheMarine < KaiGreene @ Neo Jade
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me and sync are officially beefting
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On October 04 2013 02:07 Prodigy.MvP wrote:
me and sync are officially beefting
I have no idea what that means...
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Thank you draw for clarifying
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Beef so hard that shit cray
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Ting
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314 up, 183 down
Add to the end of a phrase. Makes the word stronger. very. Used in north London
That girls is a buff ting.
draws first link was right
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This is a lie, Indians don't eat cows, as they are sacred.
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n.stop)ikan please PM me.. I need a PP.
Would it be alright to play our game a few hours earlier? around 8:00- 9:00 EDT?
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im gonna switch to tvz tvp pvt
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On October 05 2013 14:17 Prodigy.MvP wrote:
im gonna switch to tvz tvp pvt
You still have to play zerg this week but I will change it for next week. Race switching needs to be done before lineups are submitted.
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Didn't see castle[emg] on; waited until half an hour after match time but now I have to go. Castle, contact me when you're available to play.
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I switching to Terran full time for the rest of crtl for your information
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When are the games typically casted? :D
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On October 07 2013 14:18 SnowFantasy wrote:
When are the games typically casted? :D
Whenever the casters are up to cast. No one has asked for anything to cast just yet, but we'll be sure to try and get everything from Week 1 casted all the way to the end.
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Next week I can cast all of the week 1 and week 2 games if got the replays
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On October 07 2013 21:11 SynC[gm] wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2013 14:18 SnowFantasy wrote:
When are the games typically casted? :D Whenever the casters are up to cast. No one has asked for anything to cast just yet, but we'll be sure to try and get everything from Week 1 casted all the way to the end.
Ok cool.
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mad love for my homie telecom
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On October 08 2013 03:11 Prodigy.MvP wrote:
mad love for my homie telecom
Right....you are a arrogant / ignorant child
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MVP vs Telecom
The rivalry lives on
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On October 07 2013 21:11 SynC[gm] wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2013 14:18 SnowFantasy wrote:
When are the games typically casted? :D Whenever the casters are up to cast. No one has asked for anything to cast just yet, but we'll be sure to try and get everything from Week 1 casted all the way to the end.
Gimme reps!
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Tonight he's sending my teammates paragraphs of bm via TL PM, rivalry ended when i 2-0d him
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as long as their is still shit talk it never ends
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On October 08 2013 02:46 LightningStrike wrote:Next week I can cast all of the week 1 and week 2 games if got the replays
On October 08 2013 06:59 L_Master wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2013 21:11 SynC[gm] wrote:On October 07 2013 14:18 SnowFantasy wrote:
When are the games typically casted? :D Whenever the casters are up to cast. No one has asked for anything to cast just yet, but we'll be sure to try and get everything from Week 1 casted all the way to the end. Gimme reps!
I'm posting reps in the OP from now on, as soon as i have collected all of that week's reps anyway. Week 1 reps are already posted. They're in the SCHEDULE AND RESULTS section under week 1
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When are lineups comming?
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Radley, I would to postpone the match due to getting home from a road trip by sunday. Can you pm the times you can play? Thanks!
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On October 08 2013 12:11 Prodigy.MvP wrote:Tonight he's sending my teammates paragraphs of bm via TL PM, rivalry ended when i 2-0d him
you are such a delusional BM child, you saying this here is BM. Why did I BM snowfantasy? B/c he gloated / brag about winning in a game where i wasn't even trying, and spoiled the results in thread like a fool. You 2-0'd me? You mean more like I won the first three bo3's and then you won the 4th one? So what that means it was like 7-2 in my favor? Ok then. Lets not even start talking about our overall record " PassiOn "
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He wasnt gloating, he was just asking when the normal casting dates are retard hahaha
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Only a simple minded young child like yourself would not see the truth behind asking such a question, why would anyone ask this question followed by a smiley face if they didn't win the game? You really are unbelievably ignorant "MvP", and completely arrogant as well considering how many times you've lost to me, but I guess that is understandable considering your age.
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On October 10 2013 06:06 GGzerG wrote:
Only a simple minded young child like yourself would not see the truth behind asking such a question, why would anyone ask this question followed by a smiley face if they didn't win the game? You really are unbelievably ignorant "MvP", and completely arrogant as well considering how many times you've lost to me, but I guess that is understandable considering your age.
I find it unlikely that you could beat anyone C- and above with anything except for 9/9 gate or cheese. Or I suppose perhaps you dropped them after failing your cheese so you could claim that they dropped themself?
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On October 10 2013 06:09 Birdie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2013 06:06 GGzerG wrote:
Only a simple minded young child like yourself would not see the truth behind asking such a question, why would anyone ask this question followed by a smiley face if they didn't win the game? You really are unbelievably ignorant "MvP", and completely arrogant as well considering how many times you've lost to me, but I guess that is understandable considering your age. I find it unlikely that you could beat anyone C- and above with anything except for 9/9 gate or cheese. Or I suppose perhaps you dropped them after failing your cheese so you could claim that they dropped themself?
lol Birdie , coincidentally dropping 3 times in a row when you were at a disadvantageous time in each game, and then accused me of hacking on iCCup, when I am streaming, when we were both on AH, classic. Go ahead and host the replays so people can see please. Or maybe you can just create another GM thread with a whole bunch of shit talk so you can lose again?
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On October 10 2013 06:18 GGzerG wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2013 06:09 Birdie wrote:On October 10 2013 06:06 GGzerG wrote:
Only a simple minded young child like yourself would not see the truth behind asking such a question, why would anyone ask this question followed by a smiley face if they didn't win the game? You really are unbelievably ignorant "MvP", and completely arrogant as well considering how many times you've lost to me, but I guess that is understandable considering your age. I find it unlikely that you could beat anyone C- and above with anything except for 9/9 gate or cheese. Or I suppose perhaps you dropped them after failing your cheese so you could claim that they dropped themself? lol Birdie , coincidentally dropping 3 times in a row when you were at a disadvantageous time in each game, and then accused me of hacking on iCCup, when I am streaming, when we were both on AH, classic. Go ahead and host the replays so people can see please. Or maybe you can just create another GM thread with a whole bunch of shit talk so you can lose again?
Nah, now that I'm no longer D- there's no point in me playing you again, it wouldn't be a challenge for me. Besides, you'd just drop me again. Pulling out your cable on your router isn't detected by you streaming nor by iCCup's antihack.
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Yeah birdie. Don't be so arrogant
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lol, " wouldn't be a challenge for me ", Then we can just ladder, and the person who drops will lose the points. I understand the fear of losing ANOTHER grudge match to me , since I have never lost one. I completely understand your fear birdie.
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On October 10 2013 06:41 GGzerG wrote:
lol, " wouldn't be a challenge for me ", Then we can just ladder, and the person who drops will lose the points. I understand the fear of losing ANOTHER grudge match to me , since I have never lost one. I completely understand your fear birdie.
Stream yourself playing with a webcam showing all of your body, preferably with your router in view, and stream your entire screen, and I'll do the same. Then we can talk.
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On October 10 2013 06:44 Birdie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2013 06:41 GGzerG wrote:
lol, " wouldn't be a challenge for me ", Then we can just ladder, and the person who drops will lose the points. I understand the fear of losing ANOTHER grudge match to me , since I have never lost one. I completely understand your fear birdie. Stream yourself playing with a webcam showing all of your body, preferably with your router in view, and stream your entire screen, and I'll do the same. Then we can talk.
All my body and router in view ? LOL , what am I going to do, unplug the router / click the reset button with my foot? I'll be glad to stream with my whole body and router in view, are we talking about another grudge match that you'll lose?
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On October 10 2013 07:31 GGzerG wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2013 06:44 Birdie wrote:On October 10 2013 06:41 GGzerG wrote:
lol, " wouldn't be a challenge for me ", Then we can just ladder, and the person who drops will lose the points. I understand the fear of losing ANOTHER grudge match to me , since I have never lost one. I completely understand your fear birdie. Stream yourself playing with a webcam showing all of your body, preferably with your router in view, and stream your entire screen, and I'll do the same. Then we can talk. All my body and router in view ? LOL , what am I going to do, unplug the router / click the reset button with my foot? I'll be glad to stream with my whole body and router in view, are we talking about another grudge match that you'll lose?
No, we're talking about a grudge match that I'll win
I have exams in two week's time, any day after that should be good.
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On October 10 2013 07:31 GGzerG wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2013 06:44 Birdie wrote:On October 10 2013 06:41 GGzerG wrote:
lol, " wouldn't be a challenge for me ", Then we can just ladder, and the person who drops will lose the points. I understand the fear of losing ANOTHER grudge match to me , since I have never lost one. I completely understand your fear birdie. Stream yourself playing with a webcam showing all of your body, preferably with your router in view, and stream your entire screen, and I'll do the same. Then we can talk. All my body and router in view ? LOL , what am I going to do, unplug the router / click the reset button with my foot? I'll be glad to stream with my whole body and router in view, are we talking about another grudge match that you'll lose?
My internet cable is literally 8 inches from my foot under my desk. I've disconnected it before.
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You're Canadian. What do you know about inches?
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hey folks!!!
Poll: Whose better? Birdie or TeletubbieBirdie (18) 62% telecom (11) 38% 29 total votes Your vote: Whose better? Birdie or Teletubbie (Vote): telecom
(Vote): Birdie
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On October 10 2013 11:08 Prodigy.MvP wrote:hey folks!!! Poll: Whose better? Birdie or TeletubbieBirdie (18) 62% telecom (11) 38% 29 total votes Your vote: Whose better? Birdie or Teletubbie (Vote): telecom
(Vote): Birdie
You should make another yes / no poll to see if your age shows through your posts.
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On October 10 2013 11:08 Prodigy.MvP wrote:hey folks!!! Poll: Whose better? Birdie or TeletubbieBirdie (18) 62% telecom (11) 38% 29 total votes Your vote: Whose better? Birdie or Teletubbie (Vote): telecom
(Vote): Birdie
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How does this poll result even make sense right now?
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On October 11 2013 01:33 Fazers wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2013 11:08 Prodigy.MvP wrote:hey folks!!! Poll: Whose better? Birdie or TeletubbieBirdie (18) 62% telecom (11) 38% 29 total votes Your vote: Whose better? Birdie or Teletubbie (Vote): telecom
(Vote): Birdie
... How does this poll result even make sense right now?
![[image loading]](http://cdn.meme.li/i/ilkg6.jpg)
User was warned for this post
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On October 11 2013 01:57 t0ssboy wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2013 01:33 Fazers wrote:On October 10 2013 11:08 Prodigy.MvP wrote:hey folks!!! Poll: Whose better? Birdie or TeletubbieBirdie (18) 62% telecom (11) 38% 29 total votes Your vote: Whose better? Birdie or Teletubbie (Vote): telecom
(Vote): Birdie
... How does this poll result even make sense right now?
lol, well played.
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On October 11 2013 01:57 t0ssboy wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2013 01:33 Fazers wrote:On October 10 2013 11:08 Prodigy.MvP wrote:hey folks!!! Poll: Whose better? Birdie or TeletubbieBirdie (18) 62% telecom (11) 38% 29 total votes Your vote: Whose better? Birdie or Teletubbie (Vote): telecom
(Vote): Birdie
... How does this poll result even make sense right now? User was warned for this post
There is absolutely no way that Birdie is better than Telecom...
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On October 11 2013 03:35 Fazers wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2013 01:57 t0ssboy wrote:On October 11 2013 01:33 Fazers wrote:On October 10 2013 11:08 Prodigy.MvP wrote:hey folks!!! Poll: Whose better? Birdie or TeletubbieBirdie (18) 62% telecom (11) 38% 29 total votes Your vote: Whose better? Birdie or Teletubbie (Vote): telecom
(Vote): Birdie
... How does this poll result even make sense right now? User was warned for this post There is absolutely no way that Birdie is better than Telecom...
We played a grudge match a while back when I was D-, the macro game we played I won without difficulty, and he could only beat me by doing 9/9 gate twice, which at the time I didn't know how to beat. He's not very good.
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Thanks for making the BW community look great guys.
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where the week 2/3 casts?
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On October 11 2013 20:17 dRaW wrote:
where the week 2/3 casts?
Week 3 is this Sunday. We'll get Week 2 replays uploaded once Week 1 games have been casted.
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On October 11 2013 06:18 Birdie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2013 03:35 Fazers wrote:On October 11 2013 01:57 t0ssboy wrote:On October 11 2013 01:33 Fazers wrote:On October 10 2013 11:08 Prodigy.MvP wrote:hey folks!!! Poll: Whose better? Birdie or TeletubbieBirdie (18) 62% telecom (11) 38% 29 total votes Your vote: Whose better? Birdie or Teletubbie (Vote): telecom
(Vote): Birdie
... How does this poll result even make sense right now? User was warned for this post There is absolutely no way that Birdie is better than Telecom... We played a grudge match a while back when I was D-, the macro game we played I won without difficulty, and he could only beat me by doing 9/9 gate twice, which at the time I didn't know how to beat. He's not very good.
Neither are you.
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On October 11 2013 22:38 Fazers wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2013 06:18 Birdie wrote:On October 11 2013 03:35 Fazers wrote:On October 11 2013 01:57 t0ssboy wrote:On October 11 2013 01:33 Fazers wrote:On October 10 2013 11:08 Prodigy.MvP wrote:hey folks!!! Poll: Whose better? Birdie or TeletubbieBirdie (18) 62% telecom (11) 38% 29 total votes Your vote: Whose better? Birdie or Teletubbie (Vote): telecom
(Vote): Birdie
... How does this poll result even make sense right now? User was warned for this post There is absolutely no way that Birdie is better than Telecom... We played a grudge match a while back when I was D-, the macro game we played I won without difficulty, and he could only beat me by doing 9/9 gate twice, which at the time I didn't know how to beat. He's not very good. Neither are you.
I know I never denied that.
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My friend and I have been trying out our hand at casting. We'd like to try to do some casts for the league. We can't cast live, but can you provide us with the replays?
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Replays are under the Schedule and Results section in the OP. Just go to Week 1 and the replays are in a .zip folder.
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On October 11 2013 03:35 Fazers wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2013 01:57 t0ssboy wrote:On October 11 2013 01:33 Fazers wrote:On October 10 2013 11:08 Prodigy.MvP wrote:hey folks!!! Poll: Whose better? Birdie or TeletubbieBirdie (18) 62% telecom (11) 38% 29 total votes Your vote: Whose better? Birdie or Teletubbie (Vote): telecom
(Vote): Birdie
... How does this poll result even make sense right now? User was warned for this post There is absolutely no way that Birdie is better than Telecom...
You should listen to this guy,
he's in [Shield] [gm] etc etc with Telecom, they're both A+ Korean smurfs.
+ Show Spoiler +
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On October 13 2013 04:33 arb wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2013 03:35 Fazers wrote:On October 11 2013 01:57 t0ssboy wrote:On October 11 2013 01:33 Fazers wrote:On October 10 2013 11:08 Prodigy.MvP wrote:hey folks!!! Poll: Whose better? Birdie or TeletubbieBirdie (18) 62% telecom (11) 38% 29 total votes Your vote: Whose better? Birdie or Teletubbie (Vote): telecom
(Vote): Birdie
... How does this poll result even make sense right now? User was warned for this post There is absolutely no way that Birdie is better than Telecom... You should listen to this guy, he's in [Shield] [gm] etc etc with Telecom, they're both A+ Korean smurfs. + Show Spoiler +
yeah because that's my reasoning LOL what a joke.
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On October 10 2013 11:08 Prodigy.MvP wrote:hey folks!!! Poll: Whose better? Birdie or TeletubbieBirdie (18) 62% telecom (11) 38% 29 total votes Your vote: Whose better? Birdie or Teletubbie (Vote): telecom
(Vote): Birdie
http://repdepot.net/replay.php?id=54300
Must-watch replay, will show Birdie's amazing skill
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Insta-DL'd.
EDIT: There are too many hilarious "derp" moments in this game, it must be watched.
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good god that game was probably the most awful game ive ever seen
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i think my team stayed out drinking too much yesterday.
all MIA
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It's funny, there is always a direct correlation between the people so angry / BMing me, to the people who cannot beat me, hmmm......
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A very large absence from Jesus team, lol...
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suuuuuuuup just woke up an hour late, breach PM me when u wanna play mayne
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On October 14 2013 03:32 SynC[gm] wrote:
A very large absence from Jesus team, lol...
They must be at church.
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yeh it's sunday pray to the holy christ and savior
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heathens expecting us to show up on the lords day. its sacrilege. >.>
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Just a note about the replays. You may want to consider that in the current required replay format many of the filenames are too long and can't be viewed. Might put a damper on any eventual casting.
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Just a note about the replays. You may want to consider that in the current required replay format many of the filenames are too long and can't be viewed. Might put a damper on any eventual casting.
rename the replays to a shorter name and it will work.
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What's the max # of characters?
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On October 14 2013 03:54 L3gendary wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2013 03:32 SynC[gm] wrote:
A very large absence from Jesus team, lol... They must be at church.
LoLz
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Quirinus, if you're reading the thread and still want to play please contact me before Wednesday. I can't play past Thursday most likely.
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LightingStrike, if you're reading the thread and still want to play please contact me before Wednesday. I can't play past Thursday most likely.
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my stream sort of works, few kinks in it still as it goes randomly offline while my OBS is still running. Once I get it fixed I will let you know, then I can cast any reps to catch this up to date.
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wish my team didnt boot me when i was going through a rough time at my house ...
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On October 15 2013 11:35 Siz)Beggar wrote:
wish my team didnt boot me when i was going through a rough time at my house ...
The only thing you said was "this will be my last time on here" and didnt say anything after for 2 weeks. What were we supposed to think of that? I will add you back if you want to play though.
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Protoss C moldylunchboxx USEasy
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I'll be casting the first round of CRTL matches with KwarK at 17:00 GMT (+00:00) today. It's on the calendar so it should be easy to find.
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Which games will you be casting?
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On October 15 2013 18:15 Lakituo wrote:
Protoss C moldylunchboxx USEasy
I played vs you so much with Solar and Hippy on east maybe west too :O. GL!
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On October 16 2013 01:33 Jemah wrote:
Which games will you be casting?
Hopefully all of them, if it isn't too much.
On October 16 2013 01:46 Freakling wrote:
No stream link?
It's on the calendar. The stream will pop up on there.
Might start a little late, say 5-10 min late.
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Well, it's also not in the calendar yet.
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Magic Woods9326 Posts
No stream attached to the event? Have to close if nothing gets attached soon.
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Only link there links back to this thread.
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I hope it's just a bad mic, because otherwise the other guy has clearly been infested.
You should really hide the replay progress bar!
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I casting week 2 on Thursday October 17th(most likely a solo cast).
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United States42184 Posts
Artanis has speakers so my good mic picks up my voice, sends it to his computer which then streams it and plays it simultaneously which his mic then picks up and streams.
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+ Show Spoiler +As far as I know, sB won every game vs Jesus team or else the other player didn't win, which makes that 5-0?
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On October 16 2013 15:25 Birdie wrote:+ Show Spoiler +As far as I know, sB won every game vs Jesus team or else the other player didn't win, which makes that 5-0?
wtf i asked breach when we could play, he never replied or responded -_-
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On October 16 2013 15:52 Prodigy.MvP wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2013 15:25 Birdie wrote:+ Show Spoiler +As far as I know, sB won every game vs Jesus team or else the other player didn't win, which makes that 5-0? wtf i asked breach when we could play, he never replied or responded -_-
He told me he asked you to play and received no reply.
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lol? nah he didn't i recieved no pm or anything
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Tomorrow at CRTL time I will cast Week 2 by myself unless anyone else want to cast with me (pm me)
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On October 17 2013 23:02 radley wrote:
I'll cast with you.
Okay!!! and going live in a hour and 17 minutes from now
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you should add event to calendar.
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On October 18 2013 02:02 radley wrote:
you should add event to calendar.
I just did submit it and hopefully it will get through just waiting on the staff to pick it up
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Any vods from the cast?
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On October 18 2013 12:23 SnowFantasy wrote:Any vods from the cast?
Sadly I didn't save the cast but I still learning how to like save vods because I thought it would save automatic. Turns out it got to be manual I guess
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It is automatic, you just have to check it on twitch site in settings ^^
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It's pretty easy to upload to YouTube too
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On October 19 2013 01:02 radley wrote:
It is automatic, you just have to check it on twitch site in settings ^^
Thank you for telling me where to find that and tonight I will attempt to connect it to my youtube account but it seem to be buggy atm O_o
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No problem, it's in your settings, under tab 'Videos'. It's called 'Automatically archive my broadcasts'. Remember that after broadcast you will need to open recorded video, and using it's settings click on Save Forever function. Without it, videos will be deleted from server after some time ( I don't remember exactly, maybe month or 2 weeks).
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On October 19 2013 01:20 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2013 01:02 radley wrote:
It is automatic, you just have to check it on twitch site in settings ^^ Thank you for telling me where to find that and tonight I will attempt to connect it to my youtube account but it seem to be buggy atm O_o
I'm pretty sure OBS and Xsplit saves your recording under your Videos folder on your computer, and you can just upload that video file onto Youtube.
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On October 19 2013 03:20 SynC[gm] wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2013 01:20 LightningStrike wrote:On October 19 2013 01:02 radley wrote:
It is automatic, you just have to check it on twitch site in settings ^^ Thank you for telling me where to find that and tonight I will attempt to connect it to my youtube account but it seem to be buggy atm O_o I'm pretty sure OBS and Xsplit saves your recording under your Videos folder on your computer, and you can just upload that video file onto Youtube.
Couldn't find it but I wont make that mistake again.
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i just lost 3-0 to sero, i think it's time to remove him from the league.
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On October 19 2013 11:46 dRaW wrote:
i just lost 3-0 to sero, i think it's time to remove him from the league.
Sero, you can move down to D ranks if you want.
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On October 19 2013 11:46 dRaW wrote:
i just lost 3-0 to sero, i think it's time to remove him from the league.
Or maybe it's just time for you to quit this game.
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On October 19 2013 15:35 L_Master wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2013 11:46 dRaW wrote:
i just lost 3-0 to sero, i think it's time to remove him from the league. Sero, you can move down to D ranks if you want.
Sero you can now do Gambit Cup now.
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sB.Smokeybear would like a postponement of a few hours, something came up unexpectedly. Sorry for the late notification.
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Starting this week late replays and lineups will result in -1 map score per day for that team instead of the captain penalty.
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Any idea how I can msg [T3] ? I hate W.O. I'd like to play and fast -,-
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On October 19 2013 22:12 radley wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2013 11:46 dRaW wrote:
i just lost 3-0 to sero, i think it's time to remove him from the league. Or maybe it's just time for you to quit this game.
SHOTS FIRED!!
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On October 21 2013 16:06 Letalis wrote:
Any idea how I can msg [T3] ? I hate W.O. I'd like to play and fast -,-
prepare for cheese plz
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i updated the OP with a player ranking up until the end of week 3.
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Casting CRTL Week 3 tomorrow with Talent and Radley(maybe he still needs to confirm uf he can or can not cast with me)!
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Save vods this time please!
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Did you already cast this Lightning?
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On October 25 2013 00:07 Jemah wrote:
Did you already cast this Lightning?
I got it on the calendar again since for some reason that one got removed(I accidently put week 4 too so they must of deleted that and week 3) but neverless casting it in 1 hour 56 minutes!
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Thanks for the cast! You/ Reese/ and !!WHITERA!! were good casters hahaha
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On October 25 2013 07:50 Jemah wrote:
Thanks for the cast! You/ Reese/ and !!WHITERA!! were good casters hahaha
It was Radley who casting with me and Talent .
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I want to nab a series or two this next time to do. If anyone wants to co-cast with me please PM me. There is no way I want to go solo. That shit isn't fun.
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What's with all the hate T_T.
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On October 25 2013 21:19 t0ssboy wrote:
What's with all the hate T_T.
It's a joke about how your captain in the last of CRTL smurfed in there and all of you being in BG that's all
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On October 25 2013 23:21 LightningStrike wrote:It's a joke about how your captain in the last of CRTL smurfed in there and all of you being in BG that's all
My question was more about why you guys say i'm a cheeser .I fucking hate cheese.
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On October 26 2013 00:36 t0ssboy wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2013 23:21 LightningStrike wrote:On October 25 2013 21:19 t0ssboy wrote:
What's with all the hate T_T. It's a joke about how your captain in the last of CRTL smurfed in there and all of you being in BG that's all My question was more about why you guys say i'm a cheeser .I fucking hate cheese.
Most of the games I watched of you when I casting or watching someone casting was you doing cheeses :O
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He hates being cheesed* not cheese in and of itself ;D
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Is the new time for CRTL 2:00 CDT or what the deal is for the rest of CRTL?
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On October 28 2013 03:23 LightningStrike wrote:
Is the new time for CRTL 2:00 CDT or what the deal is for the rest of CRTL?
Yes, the games have been pushed back for an hour for the Americans. Europeans will be the same time, taking into account their daylight saving time.
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DST for north america is next week so we're going to keep the time as 2pm EST / 8pm CET from next week on. Its just this week that's screwed up, I didn't even know about the european DST.
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rulzbooom missing. t.t
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He hasn't been on skype either something must have come up. He is usually always around
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We were going to postpone until "90 minutes after the default time".
This DST stuff maybe causing the problem?
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I need to sleep. Someone shared his skype contact with me so meh. glgg
edit: kk we played!
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Is it still possible to join CRTL now?
If so I'd like to apply to join Jesus team (since most TAKK members are on Jesus).
ICCup Nicks: BaD]Seed, BaD]Gosu, tO_cReAtiVee
TLnet acc: chrisolo
Rank: D+/C- (will train some 1on1 so I get legit C- for this league!)
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On October 28 2013 21:58 chrisolo wrote:
Is it still possible to join CRTL now?
If so I'd like to apply to join Jesus team (since most TAKK members are on Jesus).
ICCup Nicks: BaD]Seed, BaD]Gosu, tO_cReAtiVee
TLnet acc: chrisolo
Rank: D+/C- (will train some 1on1 so I get legit C- for this league!)
Sure if jesus team is alright with that. This is actually the last week for sign ups because we are entering round 2.
Speaking of which, this means there's a new map pool starting this week.
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On October 29 2013 06:39 L3gendary wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2013 21:58 chrisolo wrote:
Is it still possible to join CRTL now?
If so I'd like to apply to join Jesus team (since most TAKK members are on Jesus).
ICCup Nicks: BaD]Seed, BaD]Gosu, tO_cReAtiVee
TLnet acc: chrisolo
Rank: D+/C- (will train some 1on1 so I get legit C- for this league!) Sure if jesus team is alright with that. This is actually the last week for sign ups because we are entering round 2. Speaking of which, this means there's a new map pool starting this week.
ye they accepted. I forgot to post my race tho.
I ll be playing Protoss.
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Arcania the one man show, gj.
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Can someone tell GGzzZZZzz to check his teamliquid pm and contact me back please? Thanks!
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I have some very unfortunate news today-
I had hoped that Sero would step up to the plate and make a confession before it got to this point. But, now that we are scheduled to play in a Week 6 Stealth Bunnies vs USEasy match, I feel compelled to share this evidence of Sero's performance enhancing drug use with the members of CRTL2, and all members of the Teamliquid/Iccup community.
Exhibit A: + Show Spoiler +
This is likely the cause of his recent, unexplained surge through the Iccup ranks and undefeated frolic through CRTL. We must repair the integrity of this league and banish him forever. I hope admins will take appropriate action.
Thank you
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GGzzZZZzz if you read I need either to play 2 hours before CRTL time tomorrow and all day Monday . Just message me when you can play. Thanks!
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pSi2(Corrupt, please check your PMs... I have to reschedule...
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Nevermind GGzzZZZzz I can play on time so just show up and we can play
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For clarification, CRTL starts exactly 2 hours from this post!
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Who is playing? No calendar update
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I should mention I have STL cast today, and will need a PP
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Games would be in 37 minutes as of this post.
On November 04 2013 02:03 dRaW wrote:
Who is playing? No calendar update
O.o The lineups are posted in the OP.
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![[image loading]](http://i43.tinypic.com/15phfub.jpg)
proof of show Lion(OD) week6
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Can you put week 5 replays in the op please legendary? I casting it Thursday but it not in the op atm. Thanks!
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On November 04 2013 16:11 dRaW wrote:
where results at?
Results are always delayed but there should be a set result by the upcoming Wednesday/Thursday. Games are always getting postponed and what have you for various reasons.
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I would like to change my race matchups from PvAll to PvT, PvZ, ZvP.
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Finally an opportunity to rectify redaxis undefeated record against me!
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On November 08 2013 17:21 Dazed_Spy wrote:
Finally an opportunity to rectify redaxis undefeated record against me!
We meet at last...
BBS vs 4pool?
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On November 09 2013 01:34 SynC[gm] wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2013 17:21 Dazed_Spy wrote:
Finally an opportunity to rectify redaxis undefeated record against me! We meet at last... BBS vs 4pool? See you there! :D
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Telecom I'm possibly going to be late for the game so if you want to sleep in go ahead. I'll PM you or bugger your skype off someone if you're not online so we can get the game played. Sorreh for the late notice
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no worrys brotha, i still have to play game from last week , haven't been able to get in touch with hollowman lol ;p
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TBH I never got contacted back by GGzzZZZzz and it been about a week? I got to take the walkover due to no contact from GGzzZZZzz after a Week and 1 day. Sorry pSi2
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On November 11 2013 23:39 LightningStrike wrote:TBH I never got contacted back by GGzzZZZzz and it been about a week? I got to take the walkover due to no contact from GGzzZZZzz after a Week and 1 day. Sorry pSi2
Yes seems fair!
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I'd like to ask for pp against my psi2 opponent.
I can play pretty much anytime on Monday and Tuesday.
thx
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On November 16 2013 06:02 dRaW wrote:
When next cast?
Most likely Sunday as I was busy this week sorry!
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What's going on with pSi2? Not getting any lineups or results from them.
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From now on if I don't get lineups by Wednesday at the latest I will be using that team's lineup from the previous week.
Also, updated with week 6 and 7 results and reps.
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Hey jesus team, whoever is playing me (flyingjelly) im gonna be out of town this weekend so if we could play sometime thursday/friday it would be swell.
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Why Vesk0 did u take FFL against me in week 7 without giving sign of your life? I tried to contact you and play this match ;o
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On November 22 2013 01:09 radley wrote:
Why Vesk0 did u take FFL against me in week 7 without giving sign of your life? I tried to contact you and play this match ;o
uh well let me know what happened and i can change the results if necessary.
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Where can I get the reps? The casts are going by slow. I can get week 8 casted if I get the reps.
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sGs.Lmaster did not know he was playing me this week.He said we can play it monday 23pm cet.
If its ok to pp till then.
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Ever)P(TelecoM, PM me if you want to play our match. I've been waiting in the channel for 2 hours. I'm going to play SC2 now and that's your fault :D
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I logged in at 12:00 since the thread says 12:00 PDT, but it's PST now so I was an hour late. Regg, let me know if we can still play.
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On November 25 2013 05:09 Letalis wrote:
Ever)P(TelecoM, PM me if you want to play our match. I've been waiting in the channel for 2 hours. I'm going to play SC2 now and that's your fault :D
My GF came over sorry ill be available to play in bout 15-20 min, do u have a skype / way to contact u ?
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On November 24 2013 08:52 dRaW wrote:
Where can I get the reps? The casts are going by slow. I can get week 8 casted if I get the reps.
I upload reps when I have them all. Im still waiting on sb vs jesus team results and reps for week 8.
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On November 25 2013 06:50 GGzerG wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2013 05:09 Letalis wrote:
Ever)P(TelecoM, PM me if you want to play our match. I've been waiting in the channel for 2 hours. I'm going to play SC2 now and that's your fault :D My GF came over sorry ill be available to play in bout 15-20 min, do u have a skype / way to contact u ?
I can play today. Can you, what time? Skype: letalis_
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yea ive tried to msg vesko for game no reply please reply
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sGs.Lmaster did not show at pp time monday 23pm cet.
i guess i win by forfeit or lmaster contact me if you wana play it.
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I trying to upload my cast on to youtube at the moment so in the mean time it on my twitch account www.twitch.tv/stardomod it should be my first highlight on the left.
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Smokeybear would like to play ZvT from now on.
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Sky would like to play ZvZ from now on.
So going forward he's PvT/PvP/ZvZ.
Thanks
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considering that vesko hasnt replied to thread or pm it looks like im unfortunately going to have to take a wo
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On November 29 2013 05:43 Birdie wrote:
Smokeybear would like to play ZvT from now on.
On November 29 2013 06:01 dcemberzerg wrote:
Sky would like to play ZvZ from now on.
So going forward he's PvT/PvP/ZvZ.
Thanks
Okay, changed. Remember this takes effect starting next week in the playoffs.
edit: oh and btw I normally don't allow players to play more than 1 mirror so if there's a conflict sky will have to change his race. For example against a zerg that dodges zvz, sky would need to pvz.
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On November 30 2013 10:02 Siz)Beggar wrote:
considering that vesko hasnt replied to thread or pm it looks like im unfortunately going to have to take a wo
I'm 90% sure vesk0 hasn't got a TL account.Just message him on skype(vesk0win) instead of trying to take a w.o.
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I cant play this week, can we do a sub?
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On November 30 2013 10:47 L3gendary wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2013 05:43 Birdie wrote:
Smokeybear would like to play ZvT from now on. Show nested quote +On November 29 2013 06:01 dcemberzerg wrote:
Sky would like to play ZvZ from now on.
So going forward he's PvT/PvP/ZvZ.
Thanks Okay, changed. Remember this takes effect starting next week in the playoffs. edit: oh and btw I normally don't allow players to play more than 1 mirror so if there's a conflict sky will have to change his race. For example against a zerg that dodges zvz, sky would need to pvz.
Why would you force Sky to play a Matchup he wants to dodge, so another guy does not need to dodge?
Its the same when a Zerg plays ZvP ZvT TvZ, then he dodges ZvZ. Sky dodges PvZ (which is more than understandable tbh). Why would you give the advantage to the Zerg? Have both Dodgers play their offrace, no problem in this imho.
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grats zimp, you are the man :D
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On November 30 2013 17:33 chrisolo wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2013 10:47 L3gendary wrote:On November 29 2013 05:43 Birdie wrote:
Smokeybear would like to play ZvT from now on. On November 29 2013 06:01 dcemberzerg wrote:
Sky would like to play ZvZ from now on.
So going forward he's PvT/PvP/ZvZ.
Thanks Okay, changed. Remember this takes effect starting next week in the playoffs. edit: oh and btw I normally don't allow players to play more than 1 mirror so if there's a conflict sky will have to change his race. For example against a zerg that dodges zvz, sky would need to pvz. Why would you force Sky to play a Matchup he wants to dodge, so another guy does not need to dodge? Its the same when a Zerg plays ZvP ZvT TvZ, then he dodges ZvZ. Sky dodges PvZ (which is more than understandable tbh). Why would you give the advantage to the Zerg? Have both Dodgers play their offrace, no problem in this imho.
Because race picking is only an issue when you allow more than 1 mirror. This is the rule from last season but I didn't make the sign-up thread this season so I couldn't enforce it. I don't like the idea of race picking at all but allowing players to dodge the mirror at least makes it more entertaining. 2 players playing their offrace would just make it a joke.
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Hey Hollowman I'm gonna need a PP. Im working all day tomorrow, and cant take the day off. Either PM me or get to me on skype
Skype:Brainsmasher80
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On November 30 2013 16:38 t0ssboy wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2013 10:02 Siz)Beggar wrote:
considering that vesko hasnt replied to thread or pm it looks like im unfortunately going to have to take a wo I'm 90% sure vesk0 hasn't got a TL account.Just message him on skype(vesk0win) instead of trying to take a w.o.
i said i dont want to take the wo and ive tried to contact him for over a week now so i figured someone in his team has a tl account and would tell him ...
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On December 01 2013 03:58 L3gendary wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2013 17:33 chrisolo wrote:On November 30 2013 10:47 L3gendary wrote:On November 29 2013 05:43 Birdie wrote:
Smokeybear would like to play ZvT from now on. On November 29 2013 06:01 dcemberzerg wrote:
Sky would like to play ZvZ from now on.
So going forward he's PvT/PvP/ZvZ.
Thanks Okay, changed. Remember this takes effect starting next week in the playoffs. edit: oh and btw I normally don't allow players to play more than 1 mirror so if there's a conflict sky will have to change his race. For example against a zerg that dodges zvz, sky would need to pvz. Why would you force Sky to play a Matchup he wants to dodge, so another guy does not need to dodge? Its the same when a Zerg plays ZvP ZvT TvZ, then he dodges ZvZ. Sky dodges PvZ (which is more than understandable tbh). Why would you give the advantage to the Zerg? Have both Dodgers play their offrace, no problem in this imho. Because race picking is only an issue when you allow more than 1 mirror. This is the rule from last season but I didn't make the sign-up thread this season so I couldn't enforce it. I don't like the idea of race picking at all but allowing players to dodge the mirror at least makes it more entertaining. 2 players playing their offrace would just make it a joke.
Make them play PvT
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On December 01 2013 03:58 L3gendary wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2013 17:33 chrisolo wrote:On November 30 2013 10:47 L3gendary wrote:On November 29 2013 05:43 Birdie wrote:
Smokeybear would like to play ZvT from now on. On November 29 2013 06:01 dcemberzerg wrote:
Sky would like to play ZvZ from now on.
So going forward he's PvT/PvP/ZvZ.
Thanks Okay, changed. Remember this takes effect starting next week in the playoffs. edit: oh and btw I normally don't allow players to play more than 1 mirror so if there's a conflict sky will have to change his race. For example against a zerg that dodges zvz, sky would need to pvz. Why would you force Sky to play a Matchup he wants to dodge, so another guy does not need to dodge? Its the same when a Zerg plays ZvP ZvT TvZ, then he dodges ZvZ. Sky dodges PvZ (which is more than understandable tbh). Why would you give the advantage to the Zerg? Have both Dodgers play their offrace, no problem in this imho. Because race picking is only an issue when you allow more than 1 mirror. This is the rule from last season but I didn't make the sign-up thread this season so I couldn't enforce it. I don't like the idea of race picking at all but allowing players to dodge the mirror at least makes it more entertaining. 2 players playing their offrace would just make it a joke.
I think it is a joke giving the advantage to one player, letting him play his mainrace, while enforcing the other to play his offrace. What makes dodging a mirror better than dodging an other matchup? Just because the majority does not like mirrors? There are people (f.e. me) that enjoy mirror matches, just as much as other matchups. Really there is no reason to force one player into his offrace and having the other play his mainrace, when BOTH players want to dodge. There should be no preference in the choice of dodging. What is your reasoning for not allowing racepicking? Just because you dont like it? What if someone signs up as TvT PvP ZvZ, will you force him to play one race, when this matchup constellation is actually his mainrace? That would be (as harsh and inappropriate as this wording might be in this situation) discrimination. ^^
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On December 01 2013 18:15 chrisolo wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2013 03:58 L3gendary wrote:On November 30 2013 17:33 chrisolo wrote:On November 30 2013 10:47 L3gendary wrote:On November 29 2013 05:43 Birdie wrote:
Smokeybear would like to play ZvT from now on. On November 29 2013 06:01 dcemberzerg wrote:
Sky would like to play ZvZ from now on.
So going forward he's PvT/PvP/ZvZ.
Thanks Okay, changed. Remember this takes effect starting next week in the playoffs. edit: oh and btw I normally don't allow players to play more than 1 mirror so if there's a conflict sky will have to change his race. For example against a zerg that dodges zvz, sky would need to pvz. Why would you force Sky to play a Matchup he wants to dodge, so another guy does not need to dodge? Its the same when a Zerg plays ZvP ZvT TvZ, then he dodges ZvZ. Sky dodges PvZ (which is more than understandable tbh). Why would you give the advantage to the Zerg? Have both Dodgers play their offrace, no problem in this imho. Because race picking is only an issue when you allow more than 1 mirror. This is the rule from last season but I didn't make the sign-up thread this season so I couldn't enforce it. I don't like the idea of race picking at all but allowing players to dodge the mirror at least makes it more entertaining. 2 players playing their offrace would just make it a joke. I think it is a joke giving the advantage to one player, letting him play his mainrace, while enforcing the other to play his offrace. What makes dodging a mirror better than dodging an other matchup? Just because the majority does not like mirrors? There are people (f.e. me) that enjoy mirror matches, just as much as other matchups. Really there is no reason to force one player into his offrace and having the other play his mainrace, when BOTH players want to dodge. There should be no preference in the choice of dodging. What is your reasoning for not allowing racepicking? Just because you dont like it? What if someone signs up as TvT PvP ZvZ, will you force him to play one race, when this matchup constellation is actually his mainrace? That would be (as harsh and inappropriate as this wording might be in this situation) discrimination. ^^
what are you talking about. he is allowing race picking. he just said that if there is a conflict, the player with more mirror matchups has to change. its understandable i think.
edit: as an additional rule though i would say if someone is only picking the "easy" matchups (pvt, zvp, tvz) and there is a conflict, than they should change.
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No maybe you shoudl read again.
Following scenario
Player X with matchups ZvT ZvP and TvZ
against
Player Y with matchups PvT PvP and ZvZ
Then he wants to force Player Y to play PvZ instead of ZvZ. So he is forcing Player Y to play his offrace (he picked ZvZ for a reason right?) against the mainrace of Player X, which is simply unfair.
Fairest solution would be a (Player X) T vs Z (Player Y), where both players are forced to play their offrace. And still player X has a small advantage, as he intended to play TvZ, while Player Y has a complete offrace. But this is fairer than forcing PvZ anyways, imho.
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On December 01 2013 19:59 zimp wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2013 18:15 chrisolo wrote:On December 01 2013 03:58 L3gendary wrote:On November 30 2013 17:33 chrisolo wrote:On November 30 2013 10:47 L3gendary wrote:On November 29 2013 05:43 Birdie wrote:
Smokeybear would like to play ZvT from now on. On November 29 2013 06:01 dcemberzerg wrote:
Sky would like to play ZvZ from now on.
So going forward he's PvT/PvP/ZvZ.
Thanks Okay, changed. Remember this takes effect starting next week in the playoffs. edit: oh and btw I normally don't allow players to play more than 1 mirror so if there's a conflict sky will have to change his race. For example against a zerg that dodges zvz, sky would need to pvz. Why would you force Sky to play a Matchup he wants to dodge, so another guy does not need to dodge? Its the same when a Zerg plays ZvP ZvT TvZ, then he dodges ZvZ. Sky dodges PvZ (which is more than understandable tbh). Why would you give the advantage to the Zerg? Have both Dodgers play their offrace, no problem in this imho. Because race picking is only an issue when you allow more than 1 mirror. This is the rule from last season but I didn't make the sign-up thread this season so I couldn't enforce it. I don't like the idea of race picking at all but allowing players to dodge the mirror at least makes it more entertaining. 2 players playing their offrace would just make it a joke. I think it is a joke giving the advantage to one player, letting him play his mainrace, while enforcing the other to play his offrace. What makes dodging a mirror better than dodging an other matchup? Just because the majority does not like mirrors? There are people (f.e. me) that enjoy mirror matches, just as much as other matchups. Really there is no reason to force one player into his offrace and having the other play his mainrace, when BOTH players want to dodge. There should be no preference in the choice of dodging. What is your reasoning for not allowing racepicking? Just because you dont like it? What if someone signs up as TvT PvP ZvZ, will you force him to play one race, when this matchup constellation is actually his mainrace? That would be (as harsh and inappropriate as this wording might be in this situation) discrimination. ^^ what are you talking about. he is allowing race picking. he just said that if there is a conflict, the player with more mirror matchups has to change. its understandable i think. edit: as an additional rule though i would say if someone is only picking the "easy" matchups (pvt, zvp, tvz) and there is a conflict, than they should change.
also if someone has a razer mouse or two monitors they should switch
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All this race picking argument is a joke. Stop being pussies and pick 1 race. When you decide to be a race picker, you subject yourself to whatever race picking conflict rules are in place.
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On December 01 2013 21:05 chrisolo wrote:
No maybe you shoudl read again.
Following scenario
Player X with matchups ZvT ZvP and TvZ
against
Player Y with matchups PvT PvP and ZvZ
Then he wants to force Player Y to play PvZ instead of ZvZ. So he is forcing Player Y to play his offrace (he picked ZvZ for a reason right?) against the mainrace of Player X, which is simply unfair.
Fairest solution would be a (Player X) T vs Z (Player Y), where both players are forced to play their offrace. And still player X has a small advantage, as he intended to play TvZ, while Player Y has a complete offrace. But this is fairer than forcing PvZ anyways, imho.
sorry man but thats wrong again. you said it: "this matchup constellation is actually his mainrace" so if you force a T v Z in this situation than you still let X to play his picked main race while Y has to play his totall offrace, as an original P player he probably knows the less of the other two races' matchups (zvt).
btw maybe legendary did but i never said they should exactly play pvz, they can, or they can play tvz, its up to them i think, its just that one of them has to change race and it should be Y. but probably all Y player will decide to play PvZ here instead of a ZvT...
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On December 01 2013 21:15 SnowFantasy wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2013 19:59 zimp wrote:On December 01 2013 18:15 chrisolo wrote:On December 01 2013 03:58 L3gendary wrote:On November 30 2013 17:33 chrisolo wrote:On November 30 2013 10:47 L3gendary wrote:On November 29 2013 05:43 Birdie wrote:
Smokeybear would like to play ZvT from now on. On November 29 2013 06:01 dcemberzerg wrote:
Sky would like to play ZvZ from now on.
So going forward he's PvT/PvP/ZvZ.
Thanks Okay, changed. Remember this takes effect starting next week in the playoffs. edit: oh and btw I normally don't allow players to play more than 1 mirror so if there's a conflict sky will have to change his race. For example against a zerg that dodges zvz, sky would need to pvz. Why would you force Sky to play a Matchup he wants to dodge, so another guy does not need to dodge? Its the same when a Zerg plays ZvP ZvT TvZ, then he dodges ZvZ. Sky dodges PvZ (which is more than understandable tbh). Why would you give the advantage to the Zerg? Have both Dodgers play their offrace, no problem in this imho. Because race picking is only an issue when you allow more than 1 mirror. This is the rule from last season but I didn't make the sign-up thread this season so I couldn't enforce it. I don't like the idea of race picking at all but allowing players to dodge the mirror at least makes it more entertaining. 2 players playing their offrace would just make it a joke. I think it is a joke giving the advantage to one player, letting him play his mainrace, while enforcing the other to play his offrace. What makes dodging a mirror better than dodging an other matchup? Just because the majority does not like mirrors? There are people (f.e. me) that enjoy mirror matches, just as much as other matchups. Really there is no reason to force one player into his offrace and having the other play his mainrace, when BOTH players want to dodge. There should be no preference in the choice of dodging. What is your reasoning for not allowing racepicking? Just because you dont like it? What if someone signs up as TvT PvP ZvZ, will you force him to play one race, when this matchup constellation is actually his mainrace? That would be (as harsh and inappropriate as this wording might be in this situation) discrimination. ^^ what are you talking about. he is allowing race picking. he just said that if there is a conflict, the player with more mirror matchups has to change. its understandable i think. edit: as an additional rule though i would say if someone is only picking the "easy" matchups (pvt, zvp, tvz) and there is a conflict, than they should change. also if someone has a razer mouse or two monitors they should switch
yea you can make jokes but theres this problem of conflict with race picking, thats why its not allowed by kespa. and if you allow it you must make well thought-out rules of conflicts as well.
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On December 02 2013 03:34 zimp wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2013 21:05 chrisolo wrote:
No maybe you shoudl read again.
Following scenario
Player X with matchups ZvT ZvP and TvZ
against
Player Y with matchups PvT PvP and ZvZ
Then he wants to force Player Y to play PvZ instead of ZvZ. So he is forcing Player Y to play his offrace (he picked ZvZ for a reason right?) against the mainrace of Player X, which is simply unfair.
Fairest solution would be a (Player X) T vs Z (Player Y), where both players are forced to play their offrace. And still player X has a small advantage, as he intended to play TvZ, while Player Y has a complete offrace. But this is fairer than forcing PvZ anyways, imho. sorry man but thats wrong again. you said it: "this matchup constellation is actually his mainrace" so if you force a T v Z in this situation than you still let X to play his picked main race while Y has to play his totall offrace, as an original P player he probably knows the less of the other two races' matchups (zvt). btw maybe legendary did but i never said they should exactly play pvz, they can, or they can play tvz, its up to them i think, its just that one of them has to change race and it should be Y. but probably all Y player will decide to play PvZ here instead of a ZvT...
Sorry but discussing with you has no point when you cannot comprehend what I am saying.
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proof of presence
no idea who is psi2]vesk0 it says not exist on iccup.
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On December 02 2013 03:56 chrisolo wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2013 03:34 zimp wrote:On December 01 2013 21:05 chrisolo wrote:
No maybe you shoudl read again.
Following scenario
Player X with matchups ZvT ZvP and TvZ
against
Player Y with matchups PvT PvP and ZvZ
Then he wants to force Player Y to play PvZ instead of ZvZ. So he is forcing Player Y to play his offrace (he picked ZvZ for a reason right?) against the mainrace of Player X, which is simply unfair.
Fairest solution would be a (Player X) T vs Z (Player Y), where both players are forced to play their offrace. And still player X has a small advantage, as he intended to play TvZ, while Player Y has a complete offrace. But this is fairer than forcing PvZ anyways, imho. sorry man but thats wrong again. you said it: "this matchup constellation is actually his mainrace" so if you force a T v Z in this situation than you still let X to play his picked main race while Y has to play his totall offrace, as an original P player he probably knows the less of the other two races' matchups (zvt). btw maybe legendary did but i never said they should exactly play pvz, they can, or they can play tvz, its up to them i think, its just that one of them has to change race and it should be Y. but probably all Y player will decide to play PvZ here instead of a ZvT... Sorry but discussing with you has no point when you cannot comprehend what I am saying.
lol
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Ye you have totally logically deconstructed it. You won, congratz.
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hey im changing racce to protoss
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On December 01 2013 21:05 chrisolo wrote:
No maybe you shoudl read again.
Following scenario
Player X with matchups ZvT ZvP and TvZ
against
Player Y with matchups PvT PvP and ZvZ
Then he wants to force Player Y to play PvZ instead of ZvZ. So he is forcing Player Y to play his offrace (he picked ZvZ for a reason right?) against the mainrace of Player X, which is simply unfair.
Fairest solution would be a (Player X) T vs Z (Player Y), where both players are forced to play their offrace. And still player X has a small advantage, as he intended to play TvZ, while Player Y has a complete offrace. But this is fairer than forcing PvZ anyways, imho.
What makes you think player Y has any experience with ZvT? This would be a huge advantage for player X who is prepared for TvZ already. Forcing player X to TvZ isn't forcing him to offrace because that's the race he picked...And I didn't mean to say that sky would need to PvZ, he can ZvT I suppose but I would assume he'd rather PvZ since he's originally a protoss player. Bottom line is that he'd have to choose a matchup that works for the other player.
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psi2]corrupt no show week 10
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On December 02 2013 07:13 L3gendary wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2013 21:05 chrisolo wrote:
No maybe you shoudl read again.
Following scenario
Player X with matchups ZvT ZvP and TvZ
against
Player Y with matchups PvT PvP and ZvZ
Then he wants to force Player Y to play PvZ instead of ZvZ. So he is forcing Player Y to play his offrace (he picked ZvZ for a reason right?) against the mainrace of Player X, which is simply unfair.
Fairest solution would be a (Player X) T vs Z (Player Y), where both players are forced to play their offrace. And still player X has a small advantage, as he intended to play TvZ, while Player Y has a complete offrace. But this is fairer than forcing PvZ anyways, imho. What makes you think player Y has any experience with ZvT? This would be a huge advantage for player X who is prepared for TvZ already. Forcing player X to TvZ isn't forcing him to offrace because that's the race he picked...And I didn't mean to say that sky would need to PvZ, he can ZvT I suppose but I would assume he'd rather PvZ since he's originally a protoss player. Bottom line is that he'd have to choose a matchup that works for the other player.
Why not just settle it with a PVZ or TVT? Neither player has experience in either of those matchups.
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On December 02 2013 07:10 Prodigy.MvP wrote:
hey im changing racce to protoss
no
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so dazed no showed also, i didnt take a picture cuzz im too good for that. But as we can see from dna88 pic, jacklinks is in channel and dazed is not. If dazed wants to play tomorrow or the next day im fine with that
im pacific timezone working 11am to 8 pm
msg me with times you can play dazed
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Anyone know sB vs Team 6 result?
Also, what maps are going to be used for the playoffs?
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On December 02 2013 17:42 fearthequeen wrote:
Anyone know sB vs Team 6 result?
Not finished yet, one game to go.
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On December 02 2013 07:59 fearthequeen wrote:psi2]corrupt no show week 10
Why did you take w.o when we discussed a PP?
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im changing race to protoss
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On December 03 2013 02:03 Prodigy.MvP wrote:
im changing race to protoss
no
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On December 03 2013 02:03 Prodigy.MvP wrote:
im changing race to protoss
lol, lose a game ? Switch your race, Win with Protoss? Must mean I should play Protoss! Let me let everyone know i'm switching races again! lol........You shouldn't be allowed to switch races in this tournament for the 15th time.
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anyone know how to get a hold of the hollowman?
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On December 02 2013 23:58 t0ssboy wrote:Why did you take w.o when we discussed a PP?
If corrupt wants to contact me to play today/tomorrow he can. I only post that in case he doesn't. (because psi2 has been famously afk all season)
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On December 02 2013 23:58 t0ssboy wrote:Why did you take w.o when we discussed a PP?
well no one contacted me or my teammates from pSi2 for a pp except for you after CRTL already started. as much as i don't like taking walkovers i dislike chasing team members around trying to schedule game times even more.
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im changing race to protoss
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My apologies for not showing on sunday. Didn't realize I was on the line-up for week 10. In fact, I wasn't even supposed to participate in this tournament like, at all.. it was mr. Inf3cted who signed me in without telling. To tell the truth, besides the scheduled CRTL games I wasn't even able to touch Brood War during those weeks. :\
P.S.
Sent you a PM, fearthequeen
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r.i.p team jesus
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I need PP. Hope that's ok. I could play any time on Tuesday and Wednesday.
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I need PP too for this Sunday. Hollowman please tell me when its good for you to play next week. TY!
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proof of my presence
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oxyacety msg me to schedule a game time
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there are no walkovers for these matches btw. please reschedule with your opponents and get them played when you can.
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Results/Cast of the finals week?
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On December 31 2013 17:46 fearthequeen wrote:
Results/Cast of the finals week?
+1, says Dec 22nd
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I will cast week 9 as soon as I get rid of this cold then the day after I will cast Week 10 then the playoffs will be casted 2 days later for first round of the playoffs. Then the next day I will do the 3rd place match. The next day I will cast the finals unless someone else wants to.
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I uploaded the semifinal reps.
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Had the CRTL finals been played yet? Or the 3rd place match? Just wondering
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4 of the sB vs smurfs game were played, maybe the 5th has been played by now too but I don't know.
The results for 3 of the USez vs team 6 were posted in OP and I would bet that the 2 with no result will never get played.
Thanks for organizing this league Redaxis and L3gendary/whoever else was involved. Thanks as well for casting Stardom. It's unfortunate that is has been so anticlimactic.
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Russian Federation58 Posts
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Update!
Finally got all the reps together, at least for the finals games. 3rd place match is still unresolved. Hopefully the finals will be cast soon. In the meantime I would like to gauge interest for a season 3! Which individuals or teams would be interested? And what kind of league format would you like to see?
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I would be interested. I'll stick with Team Jesus if they want to take me again or I'll go into Free Agent status.
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Russian Federation58 Posts
+1
I would be interested too.
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United Kingdom12022 Posts
I'd also be interested although this'd be my first CRTL. I still haven't hit C- yet but I keep coming very close. :p
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CRTL 3 got a unknown start time Qikz
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United Kingdom12022 Posts
On March 15 2014 23:41 LightningStrike wrote:CRTL 3 got a unknown start time Qikz
I would like to gauge interest for a season 3!
I know :p
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EPT
sB.Breach <Oxide> 
sB.Splax <New Heartbreak Ridge> 
sB.smokeybear <Circuit Breaker> ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/jvJsRfO.png)
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/z9zJFOL.png)
pSi2]Vesk0![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/fxgcbyQ.jpg)
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/yfKm0mU.jpg)
