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lol, it is inevitable that no matter what, I am the bad guy and am given the penalties and harsh treatments always in the BW foreign scene, i'll admit I was wrong for being BM, but in all honesty you would have been BM as well if you had to deal with this little 16 year old MVP and all the immature shit he says.
I really don't care if i'm banned from this tournament, wish everyone the best of luck in the rest of it but anyways what really happened is that me and MVP were playing the BO3....
I lost the first game after a failed proxy 2gate cheese, 2nd game I won after a pretty long game, 3rd game I was winning 100% when he disconnected, right then and there I should of just not RE'd him and taken the 2-1 victory because when he disconnected I had the game won 100%, I was being nice and decided to re him which I shouldn't have because I was already mad at how this little kid acts.
I re him and he wins and I was angry as hell since I originally had the game won 2-1 before he disconnected, he totally agree'd that it was bullshit and here is proof with our skype logs to prove to you all that i'm not lying.... ___________________________________________________________________________________________________ [7/19/2013 1:52:50 AM] Ever)P(TelecoM: ok ill be honest i dont think u should of got the rematch in the first place but im high and feeling nice which was stupid [7/19/2013 1:53:41 AM] Ever)P(TelecoM: anyways whatever, im mad because i think i deserved the win after the bo3 [7/19/2013 1:53:56 AM] Ever)P(TelecoM: then the rematch was just stupid [7/19/2013 1:54:25 AM] Ever)P(TelecoM: but whatever [7/19/2013 1:59:27 AM] saurabh sharma: im sorry man [7/19/2013 2:00:27 AM] Ever)P(TelecoM: go again [7/19/2013 2:00:54 AM] saurabh sharma: will you promise [7/19/2013 2:00:56 AM] saurabh sharma: to not get mad [7/19/2013 2:00:58 AM] saurabh sharma: if i win ? [7/19/2013 2:01:04 AM] saurabh sharma: i feel like shit when you do [7/19/2013 2:01:08 AM] saurabh sharma: its a gay feeling [7/19/2013 2:01:18 AM] saurabh sharma: i feel you though [7/19/2013 2:01:19 AM] Ever)P(TelecoM: u would be mad too at this stupid ass situation that u shouldnt have won [7/19/2013 2:01:22 AM] saurabh sharma: i know why [7/19/2013 2:01:24 AM] saurabh sharma: ur mad and shit [7/19/2013 2:01:32 AM] saurabh sharma: and you have a good reason to be mad [7/19/2013 2:01:34 AM] Ever)P(TelecoM: i want a re for me reing you and then we will be even [7/19/2013 2:01:38 AM] saurabh sharma: yes [7/19/2013 2:01:38 AM] saurabh sharma: ok [7/19/2013 2:01:42 AM] saurabh sharma: i think thats [7/19/2013 2:01:45 AM] saurabh sharma: fair [7/19/2013 2:01:50 AM] Ever)P(TelecoM: ok [7/19/2013 2:01:52 AM] saurabh sharma: and it should make it equal .. ? [7/19/2013 2:01:57 AM] saurabh sharma: im really sorry man [7/19/2013 2:02:04 AM] Ever)P(TelecoM: k [7/19/2013 2:02:05 AM] saurabh sharma: i swear i didnt mean to be rude [7/19/2013 2:02:08 AM] saurabh sharma: and when i left [7/19/2013 2:02:10 AM] saurabh sharma: and said gg [7/19/2013 2:02:12 AM] saurabh sharma: i wasnt meaning [7/19/2013 2:02:13 AM] saurabh sharma: to say bm [7/19/2013 2:02:18 AM] saurabh sharma: i left because i was [7/19/2013 2:02:20 AM] saurabh sharma: really sore [7/19/2013 2:02:22 AM] saurabh sharma: my arms and shit [7/19/2013 2:02:23 AM] saurabh sharma: drained [7/19/2013 2:02:28 AM] saurabh sharma: oki mvp / 1 [7/19/2013 2:02:35 AM] saurabh sharma: and i didnt want to hear bm  [7/19/2013 2:02:40 AM] Ever)P(TelecoM: k [7/19/2013 2:10:15 AM] saurabh sharma: gg [7/19/2013 2:10:16 AM] saurabh sharma: telecom [7/19/2013 2:10:19 AM] saurabh sharma: you deserve it [7/19/2013 2:10:20 AM] saurabh sharma: gj [7/19/2013 2:11:17 AM] Ever)P(TelecoM: thx..gg... [7/19/2013 2:11:18 AM] saurabh sharma: oh and [7/19/2013 2:11:21 AM] saurabh sharma: gl with future ysl bro [7/19/2013 2:11:29 AM] saurabh sharma: take it home [7/19/2013 2:11:32 AM] Ever)P(TelecoM: im sorry i got mad it was the situation not u.. [7/19/2013 2:11:43 AM] saurabh sharma: its ok [7/19/2013 2:11:45 AM] saurabh sharma: it was bs [7/19/2013 2:11:46 AM] saurabh sharma: i guess [7/19/2013 2:11:48 AM] Ever)P(TelecoM: guess old habits die hard... [7/19/2013 2:11:55 AM] saurabh sharma: its ok man [7/19/2013 2:11:57 AM] saurabh sharma: stuff happens [7/19/2013 2:12:01 AM] KeT[PaiN] (Chase): ye [7/19/2013 2:12:03 AM] saurabh sharma: i wish you luck in the next rounds [7/19/2013 2:12:04 AM] saurabh sharma: gl [7/19/2013 2:12:06 AM] KeT[PaiN] (Chase): you guys duke it out like men [7/19/2013 2:12:08 AM] KeT[PaiN] (Chase): bo5 [7/19/2013 2:12:19 AM] KeT[PaiN] (Chase): gj ______________________________________________________________________________________________________
So then we both agreed to another game to make it even, I won the last game he says " gg , gl in the rest of ysl " ect., making it 3-2 or 4-2 if you include the disconnect in which I was going to win anyways....and then he F removes me on skype, and goes to shimmy and tells him a different story, and when I try to talk to him on Fish about it he pretends hes korean, and then goes into op Ever- clan to try and make the clan members mad at me lol....Would you be upset? Ok then. Then last night the kid calls me on skype and talks shit / BM's and acts immature for 30-40 minutes, I just laugh it up and tell him how I felt and explained to him my side of the story, while he continues to talk shit nonstop and say the most ridiculous BM and rude things, meanwhile I am the bad guy as usual.
I just wished him the best of luck in his future games and I wish the tournament the best of luck as well in the future, glad I was able to participate in it. Thanks
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btw telecom, it was a bo1 to begin with
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On July 23 2013 03:03 sabas123 wrote: btw telecom, it was a bo1 to begin with
somebody wasn't reading the format. xD
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Telecom,
If you would prefer, I'll declare it a win for MVP by DQ. If that would make you feel better. Youre actions are the reason you are out, not your play.
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Making a bigger ass out of yourself after making an ass out of yourself is rarely an effective strategy.
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Well hard to say, both Telecom and MVP act sometimes like immature (without any offence, i just see this whole time on forum and/or game server), so most probably they are both guilty this situation.
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Fuck my life glio,take w.o.Forgot to come home sorry.
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I dunno from what I've seen it looked like MVP conceded the match to Telecom.
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TBH if what telecom said happened,it should be a rematch.Just imo.
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On July 23 2013 04:58 tonight wrote: I dunno from what I've seen it looked like MVP conceded the match to Telecom. It seems to me that MVP is in the wrong. Why is Telecom being punished?
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Let's see all the replays, if they had some verbal agreement in the games then you can decide from that, not from heresay through skype messages (which can be edited)
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It'd be best if MVP would just say if it were true or not. I mean, somebody has to be lying, but I doubt either one is going to say it.
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me and telecom played game 1 and 2 and he won one i won the other. game 3 i disconnected because the people who sublet in my basement always fiddle around with the fuse box, telecom agreed to a rematch, once i won the re, he started cussing me out over skype and on sc. when you edit a skype message it leaves a mark on the left indicating it was edited also i took about 6-7 screenshots of him just rlentlessly bming me on fish he kept annoying me to play another game but, i sent shimmy a pm saying that we completed bo3 and i mentioned that i disconnected and we re'd and whether i get the point or telecom wins through that first d/c
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On July 23 2013 05:04 Sero wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2013 04:58 tonight wrote: I dunno from what I've seen it looked like MVP conceded the match to Telecom. It seems to me that MVP is in the wrong. Why is Telecom being punished?
It's kind of a crappy situation for Telecom, but didn't he agree to regame? :\
But I personally think the "punishment" is overly-aggressive, because there are some known unknowns, but there are also some unknown unknowns (things that we don't know that we don't know), like what if, hypothetically, Telecom is correct in his version of the story that MVP told a different story to TheShimmy after their matches? If I were in Telecom's shoes, I would be mad too, but if someone hypothetically talked smack to me over skype calls and then came into my progamer Korean channel, I'd call the police too. I'd call 911 and ask for the U.S. Marines and drone strikes on their house. I'd call President Obeezy and he'd have my back cuz we both down, ya know what I sayin? You can only push someone so far before they freak out and start biting you like a zombie or a cornered dog, or a zombie-dog who is cornered.
Think about THAT for a minute, then tell me for whom the bell tolls.
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Telecom was punished for the messages he sent to MVP, myself, and a friend of MVP. Not for his play or the dc situation. I will post them if he would prefer.
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lol i didn't go into his channel -_- he msg'd me to go into his channel, i just wanted to discuss and talk to him about the situation, and he just bm'd me so i took screen shots of the whole conversation, and how did i go on skype with him if he said "he removed me from skype" (i blocked him) he's making stuff up now ..
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I thought that the Ro8 was Winner of A vs H B vs G C vs F
and so on...TheShimmy could you confirm if this is the correct format? Or the one listed in the Liquipedia page.
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On July 23 2013 06:11 SlowBullets wrote: I thought that the Ro8 was Winner of A vs H B vs G C vs F
and so on...TheShimmy could you confirm if this is the correct format? Or the one listed in the Liquipedia page. Does it matter now? Ro8 starts in following week, not current. Much more important are ro32 scores, cause players need to schedule time to play.
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On July 23 2013 05:46 INFAMOUS_MVP wrote: when you edit a skype message it leaves a mark on the left indicating it was edited also i took about 6-7 screenshots of him just rlentlessly bming me on fish he kept annoying me to play another game but, i sent shimmy a pm saying that we completed bo3 and i mentioned that i disconnected and we re'd and whether i get the point or telecom wins through that first d/c
WOW.......dude are you really going to sit here and lie to everyone on these forums? I didn't edit the skype logs at all and there is like 2 other people ( KeT / ScaryZerg (Roscoe ) ) who i'm sure would vouch for me ....and yes you did come into op ever- channel pretending to be korean saying I was the badmanner one and all this stupid stuff. I was BM because of the situation at hand, and how YOU went about it. I am not lying about anything I said and MVP is literally saying lie after lie in this thread and to shimmy, I'm being given penalty for the PM's I sent to MVP? lol... I did send you a PM shimmy but i'm pretty sure I was just addressing the situation and never really said anything rude to you...if anyone was in my shoes, i'm sure they would have been as upset as I was as well...go watch the first 3 replays and tell me that I shouldn't have won....
And then you can say well I agreed to a rematch, yeah I did. And then after I lost that rematch, I discussed MVP about how much bullshit it was that I had the whole series won and he disconnected, then the outcome was totally switched due to the rematch, I then asked for another game to make it fair and he agreed, he lost and then F removed me from skype, told shimmy what happened (TO AN EXTENT), avoided me on fish when I tried to talk to him and pretended to be korean, and he is now in here lying to everyone in BW foreign scene and just making me look even more bad then I already do, which isn't hard to do when everyone here already hates me.
What is done is done, I don't really care if I am not allowed to play in this tournament till season 3, and I am def. not going to write an apology because I am not wrong in this situation, for once.
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