[TLS] Qualifier #4 - Page 3
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							corumjhaelen
							
							
						 
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						 On January 21 2013 04:09 figq wrote: Big surprise, a protoss hates ZvZ and TvT. Well, it's Kiante what do you expect ?^^ I hate PvP... | ||
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						 On January 21 2013 03:34 Prof. Protoss wrote: does anybody know radley's rank? just lost to his TvZ mech switch. so frustrating He's like C+ I think. Yea he does a gay mech/vessel switch, I lost to him like that too, it was frustrating. I have a bunch of excuses for losing tho. XD | ||
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						 On January 21 2013 04:46 mdb wrote: is tarmak octoberzerg? Yes | ||
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						 update: (spoilers) + Show Spoiler + vod > lossi vod > pike Voddy's TvZ is that good? Drone beat voddy and JimBG Hellerine, who is this? He beat Nemu and Ramms BioboyAT w t f? won gag and arcneon Dre on a good run, beat terror and Jumper I am expecting Flip or Julia to win this one. | ||
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						 On January 21 2013 04:52 dRaW wrote: who is dna , canadian T? beat rmust, bizzy? update: (spoilers) + Show Spoiler + vod > lossi vod > pike Voddy's TvZ is that good? Drone beat voddy and JimBG Hellerine, who is this? He beat Nemu and Ramms BioboyAT w t f? won gag and arcneon Dre on a good run, beat terror and Jumper I am expecting Flip or Julia to win this one. yea, its time a zerg advance from the qualifiers  | ||
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						Canada1470 Posts
						 On January 21 2013 03:34 Prof. Protoss wrote: does anybody know radley's rank? just lost to his TvZ mech switch. so frustrating He took down a bunch of good players in bwmn like cryoc and octzerg. | ||
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						 On January 21 2013 05:01 EnjoYmE wrote: yea, its time a zerg advance from the qualifiers  yeah man I am tired of there not being any zergs in foreign events edit: ... bioboyat aka? hellerine aka? lol, strangest TLS qualifier yet | ||
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						United States3616 Posts
						 The thing is, I don't actually know much about the foreign scene - does this reflect the race mix at the top for real, or is this flukey? And if this is the normal race mix, is it just that we have a lot of Zergs, or is there some balance (yes, the dreaded B word) that needs to be addressed (maps or strategic innovation)? If someone could give me a quick run-down, I'd appreciate it - this is the first BW tournament I've watched (other than Torenhire/Gem League) since Proleague jumped on the SC2 bandwagon. | ||
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						 http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/heyoka/TLLegacy/TLSQ4Ro3216.zip | ||
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							dRaW
							
							
						 
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						 On January 21 2013 05:09 VGhost wrote: I'm looking at this bracket, and - this is basically the TLZ at this point, isn't it. NTTAWWT. (Okay, yes there is.) The thing is, I don't actually know much about the foreign scene - does this reflect the race mix at the top for real, or is this flukey? And if this is the normal race mix, is it just that we have a lot of Zergs, or is there some balance (yes, the dreaded B word) that needs to be addressed (maps or strategic innovation)? If someone could give me a quick run-down, I'd appreciate it - this is the first BW tournament I've watched (other than Torenhire/Gem League) since Proleague jumped on the SC2 bandwagon. BW is incredibly balanced, the only problem is we are lacking top level terrans at the moment. It just happens to be coincidental that /most/ of the best terrans are inactive to evenly distribute racial balance. In general T > Z > P > T, so we have many Protosses and Zergs, but most Protosses die to Zergs, therefore we are getting tons of Zergs. The few good Terrans are killing a few zergs, but over many Bo1s it's probable that they will die to one of them. Good terrans that are inactive: Bizzy/Bibiane/Pro7ect/PatrOn/etc. Also, we have a few current terrans that could post slightly better results. The strangest thing is that Electric Circuit is a heavily terran > zerg map, yet the map stats are saying otherwise. | ||
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							VGhost
							
							
						 
						United States3616 Posts
						 On January 21 2013 05:14 dRaW wrote: BW is incredibly balanced, the only problem is we are lacking top level terrans at the moment. It just happens to be coincidental that /most/ of the best terrans are inactive to evenly distribute racial balance. In general T > Z > P > T, so we have many Protosses and Zergs, but most Protosses die to Zergs, therefore we are getting tons of Zergs. The few good Terrans are killing a few zergs, but over many Bo1s it's probable that they will die to one of them. Good terrans that are inactive: Bizzy/Bibiane/Pro7ect/PatrOn/etc. Also, we have a few current terrans that could post slightly better results. The strangest thing is that Electric Circuit is a heavily terran > zerg map, yet the map stats are saying otherwise. I remember big debates about TvZ on Electric Circuit - in proleague it came out heavily T > Z, but like 80% of games the Terran was Flash or Light, which had to have screwed the apparent balance up completely. Did that hold true in other tournaments up till now, then? | ||
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						 On January 21 2013 05:17 VGhost wrote: I remember big debates about TvZ on Electric Circuit - in proleague it came out heavily T > Z, but like 80% of games the Terran was Flash or Light, which had to have screwed the apparent balance up completely. Did that hold true in other tournaments up till now, then? For koreans only, I am not sure why the foreigners don't adopt their style of play. For instance in SSL (Sonic league) and other amateur korean leagues, players like mong completely destroy zergs on this map. | ||
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