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[TLS] Qualifier #4 - Page 3

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corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
January 20 2013 19:08 GMT
#41
I think Drone can do it !
‎numquam se plus agere quam nihil cum ageret, numquam minus solum esse quam cum solus esset
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
January 20 2013 19:09 GMT
#42
Big surprise, a protoss hates ZvZ and TvT.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
January 20 2013 19:13 GMT
#43
On January 21 2013 04:09 figq wrote:
Big surprise, a protoss hates ZvZ and TvT.

Well, it's Kiante what do you expect ?^^
I hate PvP...
‎numquam se plus agere quam nihil cum ageret, numquam minus solum esse quam cum solus esset
quirinus
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Croatia2489 Posts
January 20 2013 19:16 GMT
#44
On January 21 2013 03:34 Prof. Protoss wrote:
does anybody know radley's rank? just lost to his TvZ mech switch. so frustrating


He's like C+ I think. Yea he does a gay mech/vessel switch, I lost to him like that too, it was frustrating. I have a bunch of excuses for losing tho. XD
All candles lit within him, and there was purity. | First auto-promoted BW LP editor.
mdb
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Bulgaria4059 Posts
January 20 2013 19:46 GMT
#45
is tarmak octoberzerg?
corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
January 20 2013 19:47 GMT
#46
On January 21 2013 04:46 mdb wrote:
is tarmak octoberzerg?

Yes
‎numquam se plus agere quam nihil cum ageret, numquam minus solum esse quam cum solus esset
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-20 19:59:29
January 20 2013 19:52 GMT
#47
who is dna , canadian T? beat rmust, bizzy?

update: (spoilers)
+ Show Spoiler +

vod > lossi
vod > pike
Voddy's TvZ is that good?

Drone beat voddy and JimBG
Hellerine, who is this? He beat Nemu and Ramms
BioboyAT w t f? won gag and arcneon
Dre on a good run, beat terror and Jumper


I am expecting Flip or Julia to win this one.
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
vanatir
Profile Joined May 2008
Germany355 Posts
January 20 2013 20:01 GMT
#48
On January 21 2013 04:52 dRaW wrote:
who is dna , canadian T? beat rmust, bizzy?

update: (spoilers)
+ Show Spoiler +

vod > lossi
vod > pike
Voddy's TvZ is that good?

Drone beat voddy and JimBG
Hellerine, who is this? He beat Nemu and Ramms
BioboyAT w t f? won gag and arcneon
Dre on a good run, beat terror and Jumper


I am expecting Flip or Julia to win this one.


yea, its time a zerg advance from the qualifiers
aka EnjoYmE - streaming on http://www.twitch.tv/myprobe
L3gendary
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1470 Posts
January 20 2013 20:02 GMT
#49
On January 21 2013 03:34 Prof. Protoss wrote:
does anybody know radley's rank? just lost to his TvZ mech switch. so frustrating

He took down a bunch of good players in bwmn like cryoc and octzerg.
Watching Jaedong play purifies my eyes. -Coach Ju Hoon
corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
January 20 2013 20:04 GMT
#50
oO Bioboy, grats. Also,who is Hellerine ?
‎numquam se plus agere quam nihil cum ageret, numquam minus solum esse quam cum solus esset
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-20 20:09:57
January 20 2013 20:08 GMT
#51
On January 21 2013 05:01 EnjoYmE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2013 04:52 dRaW wrote:
who is dna , canadian T? beat rmust, bizzy?

update: (spoilers)
+ Show Spoiler +

vod > lossi
vod > pike
Voddy's TvZ is that good?

Drone beat voddy and JimBG
Hellerine, who is this? He beat Nemu and Ramms
BioboyAT w t f? won gag and arcneon
Dre on a good run, beat terror and Jumper


I am expecting Flip or Julia to win this one.


yea, its time a zerg advance from the qualifiers


yeah man I am tired of there not being any zergs in foreign events

edit: ... bioboyat aka? hellerine aka? lol, strangest TLS qualifier yet
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
VGhost
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3616 Posts
January 20 2013 20:09 GMT
#52
I'm looking at this bracket, and - this is basically the TLZ at this point, isn't it. NTTAWWT. (Okay, yes there is.)

The thing is, I don't actually know much about the foreign scene - does this reflect the race mix at the top for real, or is this flukey? And if this is the normal race mix, is it just that we have a lot of Zergs, or is there some balance (yes, the dreaded B word) that needs to be addressed (maps or strategic innovation)?

If someone could give me a quick run-down, I'd appreciate it - this is the first BW tournament I've watched (other than Torenhire/Gem League) since Proleague jumped on the SC2 bandwagon.
#4427 || I am not going to scan a ferret.
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
January 20 2013 20:10 GMT
#53
REPLAYS WHILE YOU WAIT

http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/heyoka/TLLegacy/TLSQ4Ro3216.zip
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
Burned Toast *
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada2040 Posts
January 20 2013 20:12 GMT
#54
What is this song playing ?
TvT matchup is sometimes worse than jailtime
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
January 20 2013 20:14 GMT
#55
On January 21 2013 05:09 VGhost wrote:
I'm looking at this bracket, and - this is basically the TLZ at this point, isn't it. NTTAWWT. (Okay, yes there is.)

The thing is, I don't actually know much about the foreign scene - does this reflect the race mix at the top for real, or is this flukey? And if this is the normal race mix, is it just that we have a lot of Zergs, or is there some balance (yes, the dreaded B word) that needs to be addressed (maps or strategic innovation)?

If someone could give me a quick run-down, I'd appreciate it - this is the first BW tournament I've watched (other than Torenhire/Gem League) since Proleague jumped on the SC2 bandwagon.



BW is incredibly balanced, the only problem is we are lacking top level terrans at the moment. It just happens to be coincidental that /most/ of the best terrans are inactive to evenly distribute racial balance.

In general T > Z > P > T, so we have many Protosses and Zergs, but most Protosses die to Zergs, therefore we are getting tons of Zergs. The few good Terrans are killing a few zergs, but over many Bo1s it's probable that they will die to one of them.

Good terrans that are inactive: Bizzy/Bibiane/Pro7ect/PatrOn/etc. Also, we have a few current terrans that could post slightly better results.

The strangest thing is that Electric Circuit is a heavily terran > zerg map, yet the map stats are saying otherwise.
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
VGhost
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3616 Posts
January 20 2013 20:17 GMT
#56
On January 21 2013 05:14 dRaW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2013 05:09 VGhost wrote:
I'm looking at this bracket, and - this is basically the TLZ at this point, isn't it. NTTAWWT. (Okay, yes there is.)

The thing is, I don't actually know much about the foreign scene - does this reflect the race mix at the top for real, or is this flukey? And if this is the normal race mix, is it just that we have a lot of Zergs, or is there some balance (yes, the dreaded B word) that needs to be addressed (maps or strategic innovation)?

If someone could give me a quick run-down, I'd appreciate it - this is the first BW tournament I've watched (other than Torenhire/Gem League) since Proleague jumped on the SC2 bandwagon.



BW is incredibly balanced, the only problem is we are lacking top level terrans at the moment. It just happens to be coincidental that /most/ of the best terrans are inactive to evenly distribute racial balance.

In general T > Z > P > T, so we have many Protosses and Zergs, but most Protosses die to Zergs, therefore we are getting tons of Zergs. The few good Terrans are killing a few zergs, but over many Bo1s it's probable that they will die to one of them.

Good terrans that are inactive: Bizzy/Bibiane/Pro7ect/PatrOn/etc. Also, we have a few current terrans that could post slightly better results.

The strangest thing is that Electric Circuit is a heavily terran > zerg map, yet the map stats are saying otherwise.


I remember big debates about TvZ on Electric Circuit - in proleague it came out heavily T > Z, but like 80% of games the Terran was Flash or Light, which had to have screwed the apparent balance up completely. Did that hold true in other tournaments up till now, then?
#4427 || I am not going to scan a ferret.
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
January 20 2013 20:23 GMT
#57
On January 21 2013 05:17 VGhost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2013 05:14 dRaW wrote:
On January 21 2013 05:09 VGhost wrote:
I'm looking at this bracket, and - this is basically the TLZ at this point, isn't it. NTTAWWT. (Okay, yes there is.)

The thing is, I don't actually know much about the foreign scene - does this reflect the race mix at the top for real, or is this flukey? And if this is the normal race mix, is it just that we have a lot of Zergs, or is there some balance (yes, the dreaded B word) that needs to be addressed (maps or strategic innovation)?

If someone could give me a quick run-down, I'd appreciate it - this is the first BW tournament I've watched (other than Torenhire/Gem League) since Proleague jumped on the SC2 bandwagon.



BW is incredibly balanced, the only problem is we are lacking top level terrans at the moment. It just happens to be coincidental that /most/ of the best terrans are inactive to evenly distribute racial balance.

In general T > Z > P > T, so we have many Protosses and Zergs, but most Protosses die to Zergs, therefore we are getting tons of Zergs. The few good Terrans are killing a few zergs, but over many Bo1s it's probable that they will die to one of them.

Good terrans that are inactive: Bizzy/Bibiane/Pro7ect/PatrOn/etc. Also, we have a few current terrans that could post slightly better results.

The strangest thing is that Electric Circuit is a heavily terran > zerg map, yet the map stats are saying otherwise.


I remember big debates about TvZ on Electric Circuit - in proleague it came out heavily T > Z, but like 80% of games the Terran was Flash or Light, which had to have screwed the apparent balance up completely. Did that hold true in other tournaments up till now, then?


For koreans only, I am not sure why the foreigners don't adopt their style of play. For instance in SSL (Sonic league) and other amateur korean leagues, players like mong completely destroy zergs on this map.
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
January 20 2013 20:25 GMT
#58
I think there was a Flash interview where Flash basically said that T>>Z midgame on EC, but Z>T lategame if Z got there on equal footing.
‎numquam se plus agere quam nihil cum ageret, numquam minus solum esse quam cum solus esset
0kz
Profile Joined January 2010
Italy1118 Posts
January 20 2013 20:39 GMT
#59
Oh man I love this strat, so fun ahaha
Darpa
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada4413 Posts
January 20 2013 20:40 GMT
#60
I wish the casters would use there players ID's instead of other names their known as. As someone who isnt up to date on current brood war players, I have no idea who they are talking about half the time.
"losers always whine about their best, Winners go home and fuck the prom queen"
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