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anklebreak
Profile Joined February 2012
92 Posts
October 13 2012 20:51 GMT
#501
yakoob i'm on fish server now channel t2vst3
Sinedd
Profile Joined July 2008
Poland7052 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-14 07:12:46
October 14 2012 07:12 GMT
#502
Can you post all the results here ?

And as I said before

Can you add a country from which players are ?

It would help me so much in adding bets on gg.net, which I want to actually do


thanks!
T H C makes ppl happy
greenelve
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1392 Posts
October 14 2012 08:57 GMT
#503
On October 14 2012 05:17 chrisolo wrote:
Oh this started today? I didnt know that t.t But I see this will be played on Fish? If so I cannot participate, I do not want to reestablish my server list every login -_- Hate that Why would you play a league with only NA and EU players on Fish... doesnt make sense to me tbh.

I dont understand this either... :/

As we couldent, my opponent and me, get our games working at Fish, we changed to Iccup for our Bo3....
z0r.de for your daily madness /// Who knows what evil lurks in the heart of men? The Shadow knows!
Plissken_2097
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Spain628 Posts
October 14 2012 08:59 GMT
#504
Wow, this already happen? I didn't follow this thread a lot, but since the OP wasn't updated very often I didn't realize it actually started. It would be nice if it had a little bit more info on there. I'll be there for next week ( if this is weekly :p)
Formerly Golondrin
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
October 14 2012 16:14 GMT
#505
All submitted results are in.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
yellowsmile
Profile Joined October 2011
United States293 Posts
October 14 2012 16:32 GMT
#506
On October 15 2012 01:14 Eywa- wrote:
All submitted results are in.

eywa, i won. fix it plz.
Modesty/widowkiller_
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10260 Posts
October 14 2012 17:24 GMT
#507
On October 14 2012 17:57 greenelve wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 05:17 chrisolo wrote:
Oh this started today? I didnt know that t.t But I see this will be played on Fish? If so I cannot participate, I do not want to reestablish my server list every login -_- Hate that Why would you play a league with only NA and EU players on Fish... doesnt make sense to me tbh.

I dont understand this either... :/

As we couldent, my opponent and me, get our games working at Fish, we changed to Iccup for our Bo3....

There is a .dll you can put on your desktop and double-click. It's very easy, search the [G] Korean Gateways thread.

Fish is the gold standard for BW servers. The reason you might not understand is because you don't play on it. It's definitely a legitimate authoritative decision given the caliber of players we have,
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
LML
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Germany1774 Posts
October 14 2012 18:02 GMT
#508
On October 14 2012 05:17 chrisolo wrote:
Oh this started today? I didnt know that t.t But I see this will be played on Fish? If so I cannot participate, I do not want to reestablish my server list every login -_- Hate that Why would you play a league with only NA and EU players on Fish... doesnt make sense to me tbh.


every time you start the iccup launcher it adds the iccup server to your registry on default.
LML
greenelve
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1392 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-14 18:28:22
October 14 2012 18:27 GMT
#509
On October 15 2012 02:24 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 17:57 greenelve wrote:
On October 14 2012 05:17 chrisolo wrote:
Oh this started today? I didnt know that t.t But I see this will be played on Fish? If so I cannot participate, I do not want to reestablish my server list every login -_- Hate that Why would you play a league with only NA and EU players on Fish... doesnt make sense to me tbh.

I dont understand this either... :/

As we couldent, my opponent and me, get our games working at Fish, we changed to Iccup for our Bo3....

There is a .dll you can put on your desktop and double-click. It's very easy, search the [G] Korean Gateways thread.

Fish is the gold standard for BW servers. The reason you might not understand is because you don't play on it. It's definitely a legitimate authoritative decision given the caliber of players we have,

Well, i dont about gold standard, but could be and i trust you at this point.

So if i play on fish, i might understand the reason? what? why...better latency or... you know say why it is better...just say it is, which doesnt help/answer much :/

And i cant find a .dll in the thread.. all i found was a regfile and mini, which i will try and look if this works better
I was using wlauncher to play on fish, but ingame my opponent got dropped and game stopped... i was also downloading mini but it took me over 3h for 5mb to download, so i couldnt try it at this point.

I dont have anything against fish, just that iccup is known to everybody... the situation was like: ok DRIT all games will be played on fish, do it.
z0r.de for your daily madness /// Who knows what evil lurks in the heart of men? The Shadow knows!
reps)Plumbum
Profile Joined July 2011
Russian Federation484 Posts
October 14 2012 18:44 GMT
#510
On October 14 2012 16:12 Sinedd wrote:
Can you post all the results here ?

And as I said before

Can you add a country from which players are ?

It would help me so much in adding bets on gg.net, which I want to actually do


thanks!


wow, thought that gosugamers.net died 5 years ago o_O
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
October 15 2012 02:04 GMT
#511
Okay so as far as casting....obviously there are absurd numbers of games and it isn't really castable in one sitting so we have a couple options.

Poll: Method of Casting?

Cast "selected games" from each of the 3 CWs (9)
 
45%

Focus on Tier 1/2 games, with selected "key" games from other Tiers (6)
 
30%

Cast CW in it's entirety, knowing that all three may not get done (3)
 
15%

Other (explain) (2)
 
10%

20 total votes

Your vote: Method of Casting?

(Vote): Cast "selected games" from each of the 3 CWs
(Vote): Cast CW in it's entirety, knowing that all three may not get done
(Vote): Focus on Tier 1/2 games, with selected "key" games from other Tiers
(Vote): Other (explain)




EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-15 03:21:11
October 15 2012 03:20 GMT
#512
I don't know how many days a week/ how many games per cast you want to cast, but everyone is going to want to see themselves play (especially people who otherwise would never get casted). I would recommend every tier 1 game, and 1 game from all the other Bo3s.

Spoilers:
+ Show Spoiler +
Except for my set. Everyone needs to see the entirety my excellence in all it's glory.
Protoss: Best, Paralyze, Jangbi, Nal_Ra || Terran: Oov, Boxer, Fantasy, Hiya|| Zerg: Yellow, Zero
Jaevlaterran
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden578 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-15 03:44:53
October 15 2012 03:43 GMT
#513
Why would anyone want to see only one game from a bo3? Talk about anticlimactic when the caster casts the first game and then tells you that the other player made an epic comeback and won in the games we won't be watching. Better to choose 2 series (or however many you think you can manage) at random, and do all tiers in that series. Everyone won't be casted every week, but everyone will be casted some week. I don't like reading half books or watching half movies either
Need a light?
hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-15 04:29:16
October 15 2012 04:12 GMT
#514
I don't think that is terribly important for me personally. But you could still have suspense by always casting one of the games that the winner of the series wins, so you know if your guy ends up winning this game, they win the series.
Protoss: Best, Paralyze, Jangbi, Nal_Ra || Terran: Oov, Boxer, Fantasy, Hiya|| Zerg: Yellow, Zero
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
October 15 2012 04:29 GMT
#515
On October 15 2012 12:43 Jaevlaterran wrote:
Why would anyone want to see only one game from a bo3? Talk about anticlimactic when the caster casts the first game and then tells you that the other player made an epic comeback and won in the games we won't be watching. Better to choose 2 series (or however many you think you can manage) at random, and do all tiers in that series. Everyone won't be casted every week, but everyone will be casted some week. I don't like reading half books or watching half movies either


The Bo3 can involve up to six different players (3 from both teams). So the comebacks will be done by different players.

Better to choose 2 series (or however many you think you can manage) at random, and do all tiers in that series.


One CW can be up to 19 games (assuming ace is Bo1) so even one CW is going to be a really long 4-5+ hr cast. So, done in it's entirety one per day is pretty much the max possible. I may be able to get to 2, or even all 3 fairly often; but of course it's no guarantee.

I'm totally fine with the overall concept though.

Obviously, if there is someone else that's wants to cast then it should be pretty doable to cast entire CW's, and all of them, every week.
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
ghrur
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3786 Posts
October 15 2012 05:18 GMT
#516
I told Eywa I'd be up for casting some of these, but I never really got a response.
darkness overpowering
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10260 Posts
October 15 2012 05:38 GMT
#517
On October 15 2012 03:27 greenelve wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2012 02:24 Jealous wrote:
On October 14 2012 17:57 greenelve wrote:
On October 14 2012 05:17 chrisolo wrote:
Oh this started today? I didnt know that t.t But I see this will be played on Fish? If so I cannot participate, I do not want to reestablish my server list every login -_- Hate that Why would you play a league with only NA and EU players on Fish... doesnt make sense to me tbh.

I dont understand this either... :/

As we couldent, my opponent and me, get our games working at Fish, we changed to Iccup for our Bo3....

There is a .dll you can put on your desktop and double-click. It's very easy, search the [G] Korean Gateways thread.

Fish is the gold standard for BW servers. The reason you might not understand is because you don't play on it. It's definitely a legitimate authoritative decision given the caliber of players we have,

Well, i dont about gold standard, but could be and i trust you at this point.

So if i play on fish, i might understand the reason? what? why...better latency or... you know say why it is better...just say it is, which doesnt help/answer much :/

And i cant find a .dll in the thread.. all i found was a regfile and mini, which i will try and look if this works better
I was using wlauncher to play on fish, but ingame my opponent got dropped and game stopped... i was also downloading mini but it took me over 3h for 5mb to download, so i couldnt try it at this point.

I dont have anything against fish, just that iccup is known to everybody... the situation was like: ok DRIT all games will be played on fish, do it.

It's better because it has more activity, more active players, a built-in smurf filter (obviously not perfect, but who has even that?), the same LAN latency, and a higher average skill level. By gold standard I was inferring that the best opportunities for high level play at a public level exists there. I also meant .reg in my powt, that is my mistake. WLauncher should work if updated. ICCup being known to everyone is a questionable fact, but the fact that even this knowledge does not stipulate greater activity and therefore greater use of this knowledge is undeniable; fish is simply way more active and competitive. I'm sure a lot more high-level Koreans play on fish than ICC, probably mid-tier players as well - meaning a majority of players play on it..
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jaevlaterran
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden578 Posts
October 15 2012 07:56 GMT
#518
On October 15 2012 14:38 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2012 03:27 greenelve wrote:
On October 15 2012 02:24 Jealous wrote:
On October 14 2012 17:57 greenelve wrote:
On October 14 2012 05:17 chrisolo wrote:
Oh this started today? I didnt know that t.t But I see this will be played on Fish? If so I cannot participate, I do not want to reestablish my server list every login -_- Hate that Why would you play a league with only NA and EU players on Fish... doesnt make sense to me tbh.

I dont understand this either... :/

As we couldent, my opponent and me, get our games working at Fish, we changed to Iccup for our Bo3....

There is a .dll you can put on your desktop and double-click. It's very easy, search the [G] Korean Gateways thread.

Fish is the gold standard for BW servers. The reason you might not understand is because you don't play on it. It's definitely a legitimate authoritative decision given the caliber of players we have,

Well, i dont about gold standard, but could be and i trust you at this point.

So if i play on fish, i might understand the reason? what? why...better latency or... you know say why it is better...just say it is, which doesnt help/answer much :/

And i cant find a .dll in the thread.. all i found was a regfile and mini, which i will try and look if this works better
I was using wlauncher to play on fish, but ingame my opponent got dropped and game stopped... i was also downloading mini but it took me over 3h for 5mb to download, so i couldnt try it at this point.

I dont have anything against fish, just that iccup is known to everybody... the situation was like: ok DRIT all games will be played on fish, do it.

It's better because it has more activity, more active players, a built-in smurf filter (obviously not perfect, but who has even that?), the same LAN latency, and a higher average skill level. By gold standard I was inferring that the best opportunities for high level play at a public level exists there. I also meant .reg in my powt, that is my mistake. WLauncher should work if updated. ICCup being known to everyone is a questionable fact, but the fact that even this knowledge does not stipulate greater activity and therefore greater use of this knowledge is undeniable; fish is simply way more active and competitive. I'm sure a lot more high-level Koreans play on fish than ICC, probably mid-tier players as well - meaning a majority of players play on it..


I still don't get why we have to play on Fish. As far as I see it, nothing of what you mentioned affects us who actually play. I only see
1. people dropping out because they don't want to go through the trouble of adding Fish etc,
2. people having to create new accounts for Fish and fixing Fish, launchers etc that they're not used to,
3. and people playing their games on ICCUP instead because things didn't work properly.

You can say that Fish is gold standard all you want, it won't change the fact that most non-Koreans play on ICCUP. Being pragmatic, all that's relevant here is if it causes trouble or not. Fish in this case, caused trouble last time we played.
Need a light?
LML
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Germany1774 Posts
October 15 2012 08:38 GMT
#519
On October 15 2012 16:56 Jaevlaterran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2012 14:38 Jealous wrote:
On October 15 2012 03:27 greenelve wrote:
On October 15 2012 02:24 Jealous wrote:
On October 14 2012 17:57 greenelve wrote:
On October 14 2012 05:17 chrisolo wrote:
Oh this started today? I didnt know that t.t But I see this will be played on Fish? If so I cannot participate, I do not want to reestablish my server list every login -_- Hate that Why would you play a league with only NA and EU players on Fish... doesnt make sense to me tbh.

I dont understand this either... :/

As we couldent, my opponent and me, get our games working at Fish, we changed to Iccup for our Bo3....

There is a .dll you can put on your desktop and double-click. It's very easy, search the [G] Korean Gateways thread.

Fish is the gold standard for BW servers. The reason you might not understand is because you don't play on it. It's definitely a legitimate authoritative decision given the caliber of players we have,

Well, i dont about gold standard, but could be and i trust you at this point.

So if i play on fish, i might understand the reason? what? why...better latency or... you know say why it is better...just say it is, which doesnt help/answer much :/

And i cant find a .dll in the thread.. all i found was a regfile and mini, which i will try and look if this works better
I was using wlauncher to play on fish, but ingame my opponent got dropped and game stopped... i was also downloading mini but it took me over 3h for 5mb to download, so i couldnt try it at this point.

I dont have anything against fish, just that iccup is known to everybody... the situation was like: ok DRIT all games will be played on fish, do it.

It's better because it has more activity, more active players, a built-in smurf filter (obviously not perfect, but who has even that?), the same LAN latency, and a higher average skill level. By gold standard I was inferring that the best opportunities for high level play at a public level exists there. I also meant .reg in my powt, that is my mistake. WLauncher should work if updated. ICCup being known to everyone is a questionable fact, but the fact that even this knowledge does not stipulate greater activity and therefore greater use of this knowledge is undeniable; fish is simply way more active and competitive. I'm sure a lot more high-level Koreans play on fish than ICC, probably mid-tier players as well - meaning a majority of players play on it..


I still don't get why we have to play on Fish. As far as I see it, nothing of what you mentioned affects us who actually play. I only see
1. people dropping out because they don't want to go through the trouble of adding Fish etc,
2. people having to create new accounts for Fish and fixing Fish, launchers etc that they're not used to,
3. and people playing their games on ICCUP instead because things didn't work properly.

You can say that Fish is gold standard all you want, it won't change the fact that most non-Koreans play on ICCUP. Being pragmatic, all that's relevant here is if it causes trouble or not. Fish in this case, caused trouble last time we played.


2weeks ago when I hit C- I had to wait ages to find opponents on C-. By now there are tons of foreigners who play mainly on fish, and all leagues of Eywa have been played there since ages, aswell.
Adding fish is just so simply, double click a .reg file and you're done. If you didn't have chaos launcher by now, go and get it. Creating a new account takes 30seconds.. and idk what you mean by fixing fish, chaos launcher was the launcher used long ago when ppl still played on europe.
Ppl playing on iccup because things didn't work properly is their fault, it's anything but hard to play on fish.
Get chaoslauncher with LatencyChanger, get the .reg and double click it, join fish and create an account. Takes a total of a couple of minutes.
All the qq'ing here takes up more time than setting up fish.

Here is the .reg file: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/15287110/allscservers.reg
When you want to play on iccup again just start your iccup launcher, it adds the iccup server to your registry every time you start it.
LML
Sinedd
Profile Joined July 2008
Poland7052 Posts
October 15 2012 11:04 GMT
#520
On October 15 2012 03:44 reps)Plumbum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 16:12 Sinedd wrote:
Can you post all the results here ?

And as I said before

Can you add a country from which players are ?

It would help me so much in adding bets on gg.net, which I want to actually do


thanks!


wow, thought that gosugamers.net died 5 years ago o_O

lol.. of course not !

its alive and working quite good actually
T H C makes ppl happy
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