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Maghetti
United States2429 Posts
On September 09 2012 15:23 GolemMadness wrote: To be fair, Fantasy did look atrocious against Oz more recently. I watched that game and from my perspective he got busted early being greedy and it had nothing to do with looking bad. Fantasy is perfectly capable of beating Oz. | ||
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Kal_rA
United States2925 Posts
On September 09 2012 14:42 BisuDagger wrote: Fanta was signed up to play in the third set. But thank you for answering. edit: LOL at everyone making the same soO joke as if they were the originators. oh dam.. didn't know that. Just assumed they wanted him in so he could bw it up next match. Not like it matters  | ||
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KobraKay
Portugal4231 Posts
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M2
Bulgaria4132 Posts
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PoP
France15446 Posts
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elagrion
Ukraine422 Posts
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hitthat
Poland2268 Posts
Oh, and Bisu too! HAHAHAHAHA! | ||
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Dansickle
177 Posts
He wasn't even at the match today. He was too sick to come. I agree they should've put Fantasy out there, he's done really well in SC2 in general, but their lineup was really thrown by the loss of Bisu in SC2, as sad as that might sound given his performance. | ||
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Qikz
United Kingdom12024 Posts
SKT T_T | ||
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Scarecrow
Korea (South)9172 Posts
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NicksonReyes
Philippines4431 Posts
On September 09 2012 18:41 Scarecrow wrote: Hero[join] has come so far from his rookie days. Winning consecutive ace matches is just sick, loved the warp prism play too Oh, how I wish Wooki was this clutch in post-season. Hero is a boss. | ||
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Hazzyboy
Estonia555 Posts
On September 09 2012 16:18 cujo2k wrote: Hmm I think Boxer was probably the best coach on the market, or do you mean another one? Boxer did nothing at the end. He mostly trained terran line and explained mechanics to zergs and protoss but at the end coach Park put a "tanking line". Boxer isn't the main coach, he's an assistant. But anyway I know Boxer would not be dumb not to put Fantasy/Rain and SKT would prolly celebrate another finals with him. Just as example when Team 8 went down they at least fielded best players - well done by coaching but SKT fielded worst... If coach Park played soO, Sacsri in 10 SC II series which went to ACE he would likely lose 10/10. Again no special built for soO against the better player Hero -> no coaching. Hero goes all-in again but soO plays a greedy macro built and even starts upgrades ---> no coaching. I stopped watching when Hero went for 8+ gates and soO started to get upgrades cuz it a was too painful to watch, knowing that SKT coaches did everything wrong and made soO go greedy built against all-in. He had no chance to win... When a player doesn't try to win - he's released from the team and coaches are in the same position. SKT owners can wait until this repeats in SC II or take action now to try and win next PL. Maybe promote Boxer to main coach and hire oov for assistant. | ||
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
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elagrion
Ukraine422 Posts
On September 09 2012 19:20 GolemMadness wrote: People sure are quick to turn on the guy who brought their team four straight finals appearances. Even the best SC coach in the world (Park) can make dumb thing. And personally I think that he wasn't doing great in both series agains CJ. Of course I don't know much of behind-the-scene information, and can be wrong, but heck, SKT lost and obviously something was done wrong (well, skt zergs was done wrong, but thats we all knew). | ||
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Kergy
Peru2011 Posts
lol SKT zergs | ||
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M2
Bulgaria4132 Posts
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elagrion
Ukraine422 Posts
On September 09 2012 18:58 Hazzyboy wrote: Boxer did nothing at the end. He mostly trained terran line and explained mechanics to zergs and protoss but at the end coach Park put a "tanking line". Boxer isn't the main coach, he's an assistant. But anyway I know Boxer would not be dumb not to put Fantasy/Rain and SKT would prolly celebrate another finals with him. Just as example when Team 8 went down they at least fielded best players - well done by coaching but SKT fielded worst... If coach Park played soO, Sacsri in 10 SC II series which went to ACE he would likely lose 10/10. Again no special built for soO against the better player Hero -> no coaching. Hero goes all-in again but soO plays a greedy macro built and even starts upgrades ---> no coaching. I stopped watching when Hero went for 8+ gates and soO started to get upgrades cuz it a was too painful to watch, knowing that SKT coaches did everything wrong and made soO go greedy built against all-in. He had no chance to win... When a player doesn't try to win - he's released from the team and coaches are in the same position. SKT owners can wait until this repeats in SC II or take action now to try and win next PL. Maybe promote Boxer to main coach and hire oov for assistant. Actually, I think that SoO for ACE in first day could have bring the victory (well, at least considering Sun schedule it was more justified). But anyways fanta for both days ACE could be better. Side node: the game vs Sea at the first day of T8 vs SKT was last Bisu BW game. Minute of silence (well, at least he won). And fantasy's was on second of T8 vs SKT day vs by.hero (he lost). | ||
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Hazzyboy
Estonia555 Posts
On September 09 2012 19:20 GolemMadness wrote: People sure are quick to turn on the guy who brought their team four straight finals appearances. In Brood War. He is a great BW coach but it's time to move on. There is zero BW PL's ahead and that's the number of finals for coach Park as well. Park owned BW but SKT can't win anything with BW anymore. Keep him for loyalty and see how players decline while he tries to understand the game. Again when by.Rain single-handed carried SKT into playoffs and you don't wanna field Fantasy, you appreciate your most hardworking player and let him play. Besides Rain won a BW game earlier and regained his confidence for a rematch. Now Rain had to watch helpless his team lose playoffs - it's the worst possible thing for a good player. Let him try his best instead of feeling the guilt that he isn't good enough to play. As far as everyone knows - Hyuk is the most hardworking guy in the training house not soO or Sacsri but yet he isn't given a damn game this season... Not to mention n.die.soO losing a SC II game #2 to an all-in and getting fielded in #3 Ace to get all-ined again => bad coaching. | ||
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ramon
Germany4842 Posts
now, onto cheering for Khan | ||
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jaQi
1121 Posts
I heard Fantasy is quite good. Otherwise an overplayed sun would still be a better option than soo, he does not even had a nice sniper build or anything? | ||
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