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Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
September 09 2012 06:22 GMT
#441
To be honest, there was far too much pressure on Sun this season. Being the Proleague ace and playing in two individual leagues at the same time isn't the kind of schedule/life he's used to.

Next season he'll carry us to the end. But I feel like T1 should sign certain 3 Protoss players just in case.
doothegee
Profile Joined December 2009
Korea (South)3011 Posts
September 09 2012 06:22 GMT
#442
On September 09 2012 15:21 Hazzyboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2012 15:17 doothegee wrote:
On September 09 2012 15:14 Hazzyboy wrote:
On September 09 2012 15:12 doothegee wrote:
On September 09 2012 15:11 Hazzyboy wrote:
On September 09 2012 15:09 Neo7 wrote:
So much for SKT have a "strong SC2 lineup" when they first got their hands on the game.

Fantasy, Rain are top tier SC II for SKT and after one day slump coach Park pulls best player away and doesn't play 2nd best... What you just saw was WORST SKT players.

To be fair, Hero did whoop Rain twice in SC2 on the first day.

Exactly my point about one day only! When Ssak whooped Flash during his prime it was a one day only group miracle!!!!!!! Coach Park just showed that losing twice on one day makes you go from best to worst on his record book...

Ehh. Hero is certainly a lot better than Ssak was when he upset Flash that one time. For example, if Stork had beaten Flash twice on the first day (in BW) and KT sent Stats out for the ace match on the second day, wouldn't that be more defensible?

Point is that by.Rain is statistically better than Hero right now in all SC II leagues. So no point to believe that Rain didn't have a bad day. Besides things were so bad that believing in UR BEST player on most important game would give confidence to him even if he loses but now he feels that he isn't best anymore.

Yep, I do see your point there. Although I will say that Hero probably prepared with 90% PvP in mind, as I'm sure noone expected anyone else than Rain.
웅진 멘쓰즈
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
September 09 2012 06:23 GMT
#443
On September 09 2012 15:15 Maghetti wrote:
Nothing today made sense. Fantasy destroyed herO the last time they faced so why not send him as ace? Why not use Bisu and fantasy in the regular sets?


To be fair, Fantasy did look atrocious against Oz more recently.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
September 09 2012 06:26 GMT
#444
anyone else see this ad during osl?


if those are real results, i must get one!
age: 84 | location: california | sex: 잘함
Hazzyboy
Profile Joined January 2012
Estonia555 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-09 06:35:12
September 09 2012 06:26 GMT
#445
On September 09 2012 15:22 doothegee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2012 15:21 Hazzyboy wrote:
On September 09 2012 15:17 doothegee wrote:
On September 09 2012 15:14 Hazzyboy wrote:
On September 09 2012 15:12 doothegee wrote:
On September 09 2012 15:11 Hazzyboy wrote:
On September 09 2012 15:09 Neo7 wrote:
So much for SKT have a "strong SC2 lineup" when they first got their hands on the game.

Fantasy, Rain are top tier SC II for SKT and after one day slump coach Park pulls best player away and doesn't play 2nd best... What you just saw was WORST SKT players.

To be fair, Hero did whoop Rain twice in SC2 on the first day.

Exactly my point about one day only! When Ssak whooped Flash during his prime it was a one day only group miracle!!!!!!! Coach Park just showed that losing twice on one day makes you go from best to worst on his record book...

Ehh. Hero is certainly a lot better than Ssak was when he upset Flash that one time. For example, if Stork had beaten Flash twice on the first day (in BW) and KT sent Stats out for the ace match on the second day, wouldn't that be more defensible?

Point is that by.Rain is statistically better than Hero right now in all SC II leagues. So no point to believe that Rain didn't have a bad day. Besides things were so bad that believing in UR BEST player on most important game would give confidence to him even if he loses but now he feels that he isn't best anymore.

Yep, I do see your point there. Although I will say that Hero probably prepared with 90% PvP in mind, as I'm sure noone expected anyone else than Rain.

Play a terran Fantasy who is mentally prepared for ACE.
Yes but so did Rain prepared for PvP and it was almost a certain rematch that he could prepare now that SKT saw Hero on a roll they knew CJ would play a player on an ACE winning streak. I could go easy with Fanta/Rain losing cuz it could be best choice for an ace but throwing soO into ACE SC II when he never ACEd anything in his life was a white flag and terrible coaching.

Also n.die.soO played a standard macro game when it was obvious all-in #5 in a row by CJ ---> no special snipe built or anything prepared from SKT coaches. Why should they keep their jobs when a team loses 2 days in a row to same all-in tactic? Good coach would at least try to change the game and prepare something to counter or try to counter but SKT coaching didn't change a thing ---> play macro and lose game #1,#2,#3,#4 and again #5 same loss.

And Oz is a professional SC II player for a long time who would beat any Kespa player, so losing one game to him doesn't make Fantasy bad.

Hope the best for SKT and getting coaches who CARE about winning enough to try and change the game to win it, instead of keeping up the losing tactic until last game.
my 2 cents on all that crap of SKT performance.
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
September 09 2012 06:42 GMT
#446
I didn't say that losing the game made him look bad. I said that he looked bad while losing it.
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Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-09 06:44:54
September 09 2012 06:42 GMT
#447
Wait WHAT?!

Khan is actually waiting in the grand finals?! O_O I had no idea, though we were seeded somewhere but not waiting right in the grand finals :O yess~!

GOGO SAMSUNG KHAN WHOOO!!!

And of course, GG CJ poor Sun.
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
Hazzyboy
Profile Joined January 2012
Estonia555 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-09 06:56:40
September 09 2012 06:54 GMT
#448
On September 09 2012 15:42 GolemMadness wrote:
I didn't say that losing the game made him look bad. I said that he looked bad while losing it.

Fantasy went macro while Oz timed correctly to punish him if I remember correctly. Any Kespa player would look as bad against that at some point.


BTW By.Rain is the reason SKT got in playoffs and Coach Park sits him down for n.die.soO who LOST a game already. So never playing ACE and losing a game along with preparing no special build ----> elimination decider game. I can only imagine what Rain is feeling right now... so much hard work for dragging team into playoffs for not even trying to win...

SKT should pickup Roro and Zero after releasing their pathetic Zerg line. Also get a good SC II coach cuz BW is over just like Park.
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
September 09 2012 06:55 GMT
#449
At least we won BW games, honor is intact.

gg CJ.
ॐ
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
September 09 2012 06:59 GMT
#450
There is no way Khan will go down without a fight for Roro, should SKT choose to try for him.

fwiw they do apparently have a lot of money though so :/
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
KamMoye
Profile Joined December 2010
United States721 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-09 07:06:32
September 09 2012 07:01 GMT
#451
When is Finals? 21st or 22nd?

EDIT: 22nd.
GTPGlitch
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
5061 Posts
September 09 2012 07:11 GMT
#452
SEEEEEEEEEE

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MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10348 Posts
September 09 2012 07:14 GMT
#453
On September 09 2012 15:59 Aerisky wrote:
There is no way Khan will go down without a fight for Roro, should SKT choose to try for him.

fwiw they do apparently have a lot of money though so :/

Why RorO? Surely Shine is a better acquisition if he were available?
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Ryusei-R1
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States2106 Posts
September 09 2012 07:15 GMT
#454
The two SC2 powerhouses of KeSPA are about to have a showdown.

It's about to go down.
Jaedong plz
cujo2k
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada1044 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-09 07:18:22
September 09 2012 07:18 GMT
#455

On September 09 2012 15:42 GolemMadness wrote:
SKT should pickup Roro and Zero after releasing their pathetic Zerg line. Also get a good SC II coach cuz BW is over just like Park.


Hmm I think Boxer was probably the best coach on the market, or do you mean another one?
THE ANSWER IS 288
haka
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1414 Posts
September 09 2012 07:20 GMT
#456
gg cj

woulda liked to see fanta in the ace. soo no no.
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-09 07:24:13
September 09 2012 07:23 GMT
#457
Khan need to take this. CJ really don't deserve to win in the finals after what happened past 3 night.

I cheer for Jangbi, and Stork, and Roro, and Shine, and Reality, and January, and whoever will represent Khan on the 22nd.
☺
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
September 09 2012 07:30 GMT
#458
Oh yeah, Release

On September 09 2012 16:14 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2012 15:59 Aerisky wrote:
There is no way Khan will go down without a fight for Roro, should SKT choose to try for him.

fwiw they do apparently have a lot of money though so :/

Why RorO? Surely Shine is a better acquisition if he were available?

Shine isn't available as a free agent while RorO is
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
schaf
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1326 Posts
September 09 2012 07:30 GMT
#459
On September 09 2012 15:54 Hazzyboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2012 15:42 GolemMadness wrote:
I didn't say that losing the game made him look bad. I said that he looked bad while losing it.

Fantasy went macro while Oz timed correctly to punish him if I remember correctly. Any Kespa player would look as bad against that at some point.


BTW By.Rain is the reason SKT got in playoffs and Coach Park sits him down for n.die.soO who LOST a game already. So never playing ACE and losing a game along with preparing no special build ----> elimination decider game. I can only imagine what Rain is feeling right now... so much hard work for dragging team into playoffs for not even trying to win...

SKT should pickup Roro and Zero after releasing their pathetic Zerg line. [b]Also get a good SC II coach cuz BW is over just like Park.[b]


hehe... hahahahabwahahahaa! (strange laughter at the notion Slayers`Boxer being not a good SC2 coach)

Kicking people from the Team ist much too early right now, dude. This is not the point where you are able to say who can manage the transition and who wont...
Axiom wins more than it loses. Most viewers don't. - <3 TB
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10348 Posts
September 09 2012 07:37 GMT
#460
On September 09 2012 16:30 Aerisky wrote:
Oh yeah, Release

Show nested quote +
On September 09 2012 16:14 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
On September 09 2012 15:59 Aerisky wrote:
There is no way Khan will go down without a fight for Roro, should SKT choose to try for him.

fwiw they do apparently have a lot of money though so :/

Why RorO? Surely Shine is a better acquisition if he were available?

Shine isn't available as a free agent while RorO is

So KHAN gave Shine a 2 year contract and Roro only one, even though they picked up RorO first? I've never been too educated on KESPA free agency or contracts. Other than the big Jaedong FA fiasco.
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