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I know it's not fair to compare PL Terrans to Taeja, but I can't stop doing it. I guess that's what happens when you watch a ten-hour TAC match.
Sea's on a different level from most pro SC2 Terrans. It's not a higher level, I guess, but it's different. I suppose I should cheer PL players for being creative, because a few of them will be creative in a good way, but pulling SCVs against storm is really silly, and I don't understand the thought process. It's not like Sea was far behind. If anything, he was slightly ahead economically.
Did Sun play in WCS? I was about to say he didn't do well there, but I don't see him on the brackets. Jaedong went 0-2 to Alive, but he looked really good during it (and Alive is really good), and Jaedong in the Ace match is starting to get legendary.
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On August 12 2012 17:09 Bruky wrote:
Sun is zerg killer. He has 75% winrate in PvZ in SC2
Oh dear... so he is the sniper? This is why I hope they don't use jaedong so often in Ace matches. Just opens him up to being sniped
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Any translations of bisu's interview?
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On August 12 2012 17:04 Nikon wrote:
Lol Bisu fans.
That game was honestly entertaining.
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On August 12 2012 17:10 Ribbon wrote:
I know it's not fair to compare PL Terrans to Taeja, but I can't stop doing it. I guess that's what happens when you watch a ten-hour TAC match.
Sea's on a different level from most pro SC2 Terrans. It's not a higher level, I guess, but it's different. I suppose I should cheer PL players for being creative, because a few of them will be creative in a good way, but pulling SCVs against storm is really silly, and I don't understand the thought process. It's not like Sea was far behind. If anything, he was slightly ahead economically.
Did Sun play in WCS? I was about to say he didn't do well there, but I don't see him on the brackets. Jaedong went 0-2 to Alive, but he looked really good during it (and Alive is really good), and Jaedong in the Ace match is starting to get legendary.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=358430
He got 2-0d .
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On August 12 2012 17:12 chuDr3t4 wrote:That game was honestly entertaining.
Entertaining. But not in the competitive way.
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On August 12 2012 17:13 ImNightmare wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2012 17:12 chuDr3t4 wrote:On August 12 2012 17:04 Nikon wrote:
Lol Bisu fans. That game was honestly entertaining. Entertaining. But not in the competitive way.
Welcome to the hybrid Proleague!
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On August 12 2012 17:11 ImNightmare wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2012 17:09 Bruky wrote:
Sun is zerg killer. He has 75% winrate in PvZ in SC2 Oh dear... so he is the sniper? This is why I hope they don't use jaedong so often in Ace matches. Just opens him up to being sniped
Sun has been our SC2 Ace pretty much from Day 1 of this season. He's not being sent in specifically as a sniper, he would've been sent anyway b/c he's SKT's best SC2 player.
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On August 12 2012 17:11 ImNightmare wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2012 17:09 Bruky wrote:
Sun is zerg killer. He has 75% winrate in PvZ in SC2 Oh dear... so he is the sniper? This is why I hope they don't use jaedong so often in Ace matches. Just opens him up to being sniped
Hey worked in bw for a long time. People always tried to snipe jaedong and would lose  .
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On August 12 2012 17:14 PineappleLumpsToss wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2012 17:11 ImNightmare wrote:On August 12 2012 17:09 Bruky wrote:
Sun is zerg killer. He has 75% winrate in PvZ in SC2 Oh dear... so he is the sniper? This is why I hope they don't use jaedong so often in Ace matches. Just opens him up to being sniped Sun has been our SC2 Ace pretty much from Day 1 of this season. He's not being sent in specifically as a sniper, he would've been sent anyway b/c he's SKT's best SC2 player.
Is he good? I have never watched SKT's games in sc2.lol.
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jesus terrans are so bad at sc2 lolol
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Awww.. Bisu looks so emotional. Must have been a tough ride for him
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On August 12 2012 17:16 ImNightmare wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2012 17:14 PineappleLumpsToss wrote:On August 12 2012 17:11 ImNightmare wrote:On August 12 2012 17:09 Bruky wrote:
Sun is zerg killer. He has 75% winrate in PvZ in SC2 Oh dear... so he is the sniper? This is why I hope they don't use jaedong so often in Ace matches. Just opens him up to being sniped Sun has been our SC2 Ace pretty much from Day 1 of this season. He's not being sent in specifically as a sniper, he would've been sent anyway b/c he's SKT's best SC2 player. Is he good? I have never watched SKT's games in sc2.lol.
JD looked better in the recent Bliz tournament, but Sun is definitely decent.
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On August 12 2012 17:16 ImNightmare wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2012 17:14 PineappleLumpsToss wrote:On August 12 2012 17:11 ImNightmare wrote:On August 12 2012 17:09 Bruky wrote:
Sun is zerg killer. He has 75% winrate in PvZ in SC2 Oh dear... so he is the sniper? This is why I hope they don't use jaedong so often in Ace matches. Just opens him up to being sniped Sun has been our SC2 Ace pretty much from Day 1 of this season. He's not being sent in specifically as a sniper, he would've been sent anyway b/c he's SKT's best SC2 player. Is he good? I have never watched SKT's games in sc2.lol.
He's quite solid, he has one of the best PL records if not the best.
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On August 12 2012 17:16 ImNightmare wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2012 17:14 PineappleLumpsToss wrote:On August 12 2012 17:11 ImNightmare wrote:On August 12 2012 17:09 Bruky wrote:
Sun is zerg killer. He has 75% winrate in PvZ in SC2 Oh dear... so he is the sniper? This is why I hope they don't use jaedong so often in Ace matches. Just opens him up to being sniped Sun has been our SC2 Ace pretty much from Day 1 of this season. He's not being sent in specifically as a sniper, he would've been sent anyway b/c he's SKT's best SC2 player. Is he good? I have never watched SKT's games in sc2.lol.
He's actually pretty decent. 13-6 overall, 6-2 vZ.
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On August 12 2012 17:10 NguN wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2012 17:04 Obelisco wrote:
Sea was like, huh i have eco advantage? better start suiciding scvs until i die Any eco advantage was negated when Sea lost his hidden base.. PLUS all the units that died for almost nothing. The game was somewhat even a little in Bisu's favor because of army, and tech advantage (2 Collosus when no Vikings are out). But, Bisu then lost that lead when he threw away 2 collosus, and some gateway army. Sea was probably like, I killed 2 collosus, most of the gateway army (especially Sentries) are gone, I have 5 rax full of production. If I pull some scv's I can kill the Protoss before they power up too much. Not the most optimal strategy, but I can only imagine that's what he thought lol.
I know I'm harping on the Taeja thing, but he's playing a completely different game then other Terrans, and it's starting to convince me all the other PL and GSL Terrans are playing the game wrong, and that was a good example of wrong play. But I have trouble putting into words why. Day[9] did a daily on Taeja's TvZ where he talked about how everything Taeja did was not to do damage but to maintain control. I see bits of that in his TvP as well, where he only cares about killing Tripods/Templar and fuck the gateway units who gives a shit if I lose the battle. PL (and many GSL) players are all about "and then I kill him", but that way leads to overextension and throwing away leads.
If I were smarter, I feel like I could learn a lot of comparing the Bisu/Sea game to the Taeja/Yonghwa game earlier today.
edit: Day[9] daily in question: http://day9.tv/d/Day9/tvz-from-terran-perspective/
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On August 12 2012 17:18 Ribbon wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2012 17:10 NguN wrote:On August 12 2012 17:04 Obelisco wrote:
Sea was like, huh i have eco advantage? better start suiciding scvs until i die Any eco advantage was negated when Sea lost his hidden base.. PLUS all the units that died for almost nothing. The game was somewhat even a little in Bisu's favor because of army, and tech advantage (2 Collosus when no Vikings are out). But, Bisu then lost that lead when he threw away 2 collosus, and some gateway army. Sea was probably like, I killed 2 collosus, most of the gateway army (especially Sentries) are gone, I have 5 rax full of production. If I pull some scv's I can kill the Protoss before they power up too much. Not the most optimal strategy, but I can only imagine that's what he thought lol. I know I'm harping on the Taeja thing, but he's playing a completely different game then other Terrans, and it's starting to convince me all the other PL and GSL Terrans are playing the game wrong, and that was a good example of wrong play. But I have trouble putting into words why. Day[9] did a daily on Taeja's TvZ where he talked about how everything Taeja did was not to do damage but to maintain control. I see bits of that in his TvP as well, where he only cares about killing Tripods/Templar and fuck the gateway units who gives a shit if I lose the battle. PL (and many GSL) players are all about "and then I kill him", but that way leads to overextension and throwing away leads. If I were smarter, I feel like I could learn a lot of comparing the Bisu/Sea game to the Taeja/Yonghwa game earlier today.
You might want to focus less on Day9's analysis. That guy contradicts himself. I like him, but he isn't like the ultimate encyclopedia in sc2.
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Sun in red at the 3. Jaedong in blue at the 9.
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EPT
