The two legends playing in the featured matches need no introduction, but here's one anyways:
Anytime, one of the few royal roaders and a legend among all the protoss players who have ever played the game.
Nada, one of the best players to have ever played the game, with 6 individual championships to his name. The first winner of the Golden Mouse.
But both players have been away from the game for some time. It's hard to say whom will have the advantage. But with Nada only recently retiring from progaming (despite it being that other game), and the depth of his strength, I'll predict that he will emerge victorious.
However, since Ongamenet is concerned that fans who watch the match will have their minds blown and be left unable to function for the rest of the day, they've kindly provided a special Bo5 afterwards for the audience to be brought back down to earth, where Fantasy will school soo.
(p.s. why can't I center the spoiler for aesthetics then uncenter the contents inside?)
Keen for this literally been looking forward to this match for the last 3 weeks Watching Nada play Bw live after only ever getting to see VODS should be a real treat and soo should put up a great fight
Riots will erupt in Seoul if Fantasy doesn't beat Soo.
Also the legend match is super depressing considering it will be Nada's last ever public appearance as a professional gamer. Unfortunately for him, Anytime is probably the most in-shape out of the legends (he plays and streams on Afreeca). As an added bonus though for Nada though, the map they will be playing on is Tau Cross, so, shit could magically happen.
I am pretty sure Anytime is gonna crush Nada since anytime is stil quite active in the korean amateur scene and to my knowledge nada has been playin sc2 which basically means inactivity. But maybe he can suprise him with an all in should be a nice game nevertheless. Osl is gonna be decided between the winner of Jangbi/Zero and fantasy since fantasy has with soo basically a walkover and a too much sc2 playing eg pretty sloppy playin flash no real competition on his side of the bracket. hope for jangbi though
On July 03 2012 15:20 N.geNuity wrote: poor soo. it must be tough to know you'll be raped. SKT fans have no respect for you even though you play for their team.
Nada vs. Anytime. FUCK YEAH. There's no amount of awesome that can properly describe this. Out of the retired legends, these two are quite possibly in the best form (though Nada played that other thing a lot and may be rusty on the REAL game).
fantasy always wins in team-kill scenarios. His TvZ is kind of funky, but let's admit it: any SKT zerg (not including HyuK, the pinnacle of awesome) is cannon fodder.
Anything but a one sided stomping will be bizarre. Because let's admit it, Shine had the right idea vs. a superior player: go for insane aggression and unconventional play and hope you get lucky. While fantasy's TvZ is by no means Flash level "this shit is broken yo" good, he's arguably the strongest management player out there, so anything reaching the midgame will end up with the inevitable destruction of anything but a top notch macro Zerg... which no SKT zerg is.
Everytime a proteam walks by me i get all warm and fuzzy inside. Looking forward to these matches alot just saw Nada walk in here looking awesome as ever. Anytime looking good aswell, but Nada llooked like he was ready to give his fans one last match of awesome. In tge fantasy vs soo match fantast is gonna take it I believe but soo might surprise everyone tonight
Can't wait to see Nada getting raped by Anytime. And Fantasy should win this match, hopefully it's gonna be interesting. This is the only Ro8 match I'm able to watch(damn you work), so it better be good :/
Hm, the [OSL] tag is missing in the title, isn't it?
On July 03 2012 17:47 Norada wrote: in house matches are always weird. remember forgg vs jd? lol its up in the air tonight imo
except forgg was always exceptional at tvz
not really, he just knew weird ass timings that caught jaedong off-guard
And the maps were gay as hell. A bit more seriously though, the game on Colloseum is Forgg's masterpiece, great execution and very smart reaction to what Jaedong had prepared, completely unexpected from the mindless macroer and two-facter that was forgg. Got to give him credit. Here I don't expect much from soO, and even less from NaDa
Just talled to Nada's old manager. he was both sad and excited for todays match incoming flowers from him to Nada. No sign from me this match, they let me watch from side area with the crew due to lack of space in the rest of the room
I'm hoping that in case Fantasy vs SoO produces games even half as entertaining (in both senses of the word) as I expect, we will get to see a KwarK writeup(TM) on the subject. For reference see the most hilarious Fantasy vs zerg bo5 ever - Fantasy vs Calm(Clam). For reference: + Show Spoiler +
-"(...)You know, I actually feel Fantasy owes me a letter of apology for having to watch that game twice." (g1) -"(...)still there with a staggering 21 drone kills between them. Calm has no drones left and Fantasy makes units with minerals and wins." (g2) -[4pool] "(...) Calm was showing a new level of intelligent play at this point. He made a pool, used that to make zerglings and then used the zerglings to attack." (g3) -[4pool] "(...)Calm (...) immidiately 4pooled. (...) short games would make Calm look better. That Calm guy, he's pretty smart. (...) Fantasy decided the time was ripe for a one base battlecruiser build." (g4) -[g5] "(...) Calm made a pretty bold play when he opened by making drones and I'm not sure I agree with it. I just don't know if Calm is really ready for builds more complicated than just making zerglings." -"Finally Calm's plan was revealed. He was going to make a lot of units and attack head on. (...) That makes the tanks easy to find. Despite his ability to make sure each and every one of Fantasy's tanks were involved in that battle, his hydralisks were still unable to break through that choke. I guessjust Calm got a unlucky there." -"Having proven himself worthy by defeating the mighty opponent Calm, Fantasy proceeded to the OSL finals."
On July 03 2012 19:31 Kittan wrote: It's the BODYYYYYYYYYY!
I'm hoping that in case Fantasy vs SoO produces games even half as entertaining (in both senses of the word) as I expect, we will get to see a KwarK writeup(TM) on the subject. For reference see the most hilarious Fantasy vs zerg bo5 ever - Fantasy vs Calm(Clam). For reference: + Show Spoiler +
-"(...)You know, I actually feel Fantasy owes me a letter of apology for having to watch that game twice." (g1) -"(...)still there with a staggering 21 drone kills between them. Calm has no drones left and Fantasy makes units with minerals and wins." (g2) -[4pool] "(...) Calm was showing a new level of intelligent play at this point. He made a pool, used that to make zerglings and then used the zerglings to attack." (g3) -[4pool] "(...)Calm (...) immidiately 4pooled. (...) short games would make Calm look better. That Calm guy, he's pretty smart. (...) Fantasy decided the time was ripe for a one base battlecruiser build." (g4) -[g5] "(...) Calm made a pretty bold play when he opened by making drones and I'm not sure I agree with it. I just don't know if Calm is really ready for builds more complicated than just making zerglings." -"Finally Calm's plan was revealed. He was going to make a lot of units and attack head on. (...) That makes the tanks easy to find. Despite his ability to make sure each and every one of Fantasy's tanks were involved in that battle, his hydralisks were still unable to break through that choke. I guessjust Calm got a unlucky there." -"Having proven himself worthy by defeating the mighty opponent Calm, Fantasy proceeded to the OSL finals."
GOGO JUNG MYUN HOON!!!
Also Hyde banner best banner!
That serie is the biggest joke that ever happened in pro bw. I'm still mad about having watched this. I'd rather see triple BBS than something close to this.
On July 03 2012 19:43 Motivate wrote: nada cried? and why?
his dad died a few weeks before the osl started. people didn't think he'd be able to win because of this but he managed to overcome everyone's doubts and won.
On July 03 2012 19:40 s.Q.uelched wrote: Time for Death God to feed. Why is Nada's necklace over his shirt n not underneath? Now he looks like a douch :/
it's a medal that he received for winning all those StarLeagues
On July 03 2012 19:45 Poltergeist- wrote: Why does it seem that Nada looks way more like a boss in these booths than in the GSL booths? Or is it just me...
gsl booths dont have girls :/ and these booths look way better
On July 03 2012 19:40 s.Q.uelched wrote: Time for Death God to feed. Why is Nada's necklace over his shirt n not underneath? Now he looks like a douch :/
it's a medal that he received for winning all those StarLeagues
Thx. Can anyone verify this? Still won't change my opinion though. Haha...
Quick project I figured I might give a shot. If you pm ill write your name (real or nick) on one of the signs + the writting "thank you for everything" from your international fans" or something like that. Just PM me and Ill guve it ro him after the match
On July 03 2012 19:53 Vlanitak wrote: Quick project I figured I might give a shot. If you pm ill write your name (real or nick) on one of the signs + the writting "thank you for everything" from your international fans" or something like that. Just PM me and Ill guve it ro him after the match
Nada's forces moving close to anytime's nat, but he still has a deep, thin line - a strong one
but a templar gets up close and storms!
a few tanks by frozen units are getting cleaned up - Anytime now finally with a small supply advantage again...Nada leapfrogging forces forwards? no, he heads back, not going to try to save his frozen forces
A small attack on Nada's 4th, he has to flee because he has no forces nearby... still in a tight spot, Anytime re-maxing relatively slowly, but Nada is poor
oops, 2 goons walk into a minefield, and nothing walks out
mass vulture raid on Anytime's freshly established 7th at 12, pure vulture takes down the cannons....anytime attacking with a pretty small force vs Nada's really wide tank line not a good attack if you ask me...
On July 03 2012 20:25 Eshra wrote: Damn I wish i could understand korean.
same... seem the crowd are in great mood.. legends are legends. even though flash/bisu/jaedong can beat these legends easily now, these legends arent replaceable..
On July 03 2012 20:25 Eshra wrote: Damn I wish i could understand korean.
same... seem the crowd are in great mood.. legends are legends. even though flash/bisu/jaedong can beat these legends easily now, these legends arent replaceable..
They could play worse than me, I would still have chills all over my body watching them play.
even if the legend matches weren't super high skill i enjoyed all of them <3 makes me sad seeing all the old pros moving on and thinking of the future of bw
On July 03 2012 20:28 bioboyAT wrote: even if the legend matches weren't super high skill i enjoyed all of them <3 makes me sad seeing all the old pros moving on and thinking of the future of bw
boxer and nada... two greatest t legends are both here... sorry oov and flash.. you two are good too, but, when i think of t's legend, boxer, nada come first..
Still time to get on the international fans list to nada pm me quickly. And yeah those guys have been watching the game from the side whwre I have been standing since the event started brings a tearto my eye
On July 03 2012 20:36 Vlanitak wrote: Still time to get on the international fans list to nada pm me quickly. And yeah those guys have been watching the game from the side whwre I have been standing since the event started brings a tearto my eye
On July 03 2012 20:45 Zona wrote: I wonder if Fantasy vs soo will be over faster than all of that
Something tells me they might fool around and do some funky shit. With Fantasy coming out the winner at the end obviously.
I don't expect that... since matchfixing is super taboo.
Well not exactly match fixing, we all know that we don't want that. But more of them pulling out weird builds. And then they'll both start getting serious as the game progresses. And a serious Fanta > serious Soo.
On July 03 2012 20:19 Zona wrote: Nada concedes! Great game!
Zona, only after I have dipped my hand in LR'ing a couple times have I realised just how hard it is to pull off properly. You are a hero! Thanks for doing that for all them years.
On July 03 2012 20:19 Zona wrote: Nada concedes! Great game!
Zona, only after I have dipped my hand in LR'ing a couple times have I realised just how hard it is to pull off properly. You are a hero! Thanks for doing that for all them years.
On July 03 2012 20:19 Zona wrote: Nada concedes! Great game!
Zona, only after I have dipped my hand in LR'ing a couple times have I realised just how hard it is to pull off properly. You are a hero! Thanks for doing that for all them years.
No problem. It's almost over though...
Fantasy with the fist as he enters the booth...with the superior stargirl.
On July 03 2012 20:45 Zona wrote: I wonder if Fantasy vs soo will be over faster than all of that
Something tells me they might fool around and do some funky shit. With Fantasy coming out the winner at the end obviously.
I don't expect that... since matchfixing is super taboo.
It's a part of the BW history now. Every sport that matters has some match fixing scandal.
What I don't get is why they are using all those sentimental moments and collages. Because to me they are only a reminder of how good BW was(and still is) and all the great moments that came to past...contrasting with the crap that's comming. I think it will only hurt their(OGN) position.
I doubt Fantasy will be able to concentrate on the game. He has the cute booth girl. Can't concentrate with that. Soo will win first game. Same thing happened with Flash vs Shine. Shine lost due to having the cute girl in the booth in other words. breaking his concentration :D
On July 03 2012 20:45 Zona wrote: I wonder if Fantasy vs soo will be over faster than all of that
Something tells me they might fool around and do some funky shit. With Fantasy coming out the winner at the end obviously.
I don't expect that... since matchfixing is super taboo.
It's a part of the BW history now. Every sport that matters has some match fixing scandal.
What I don't get is why they are using all those sentimental moments and collages. Because to me they are only a reminder of how good BW was(and still is) and all the great moments that came to past...contrasting with the crap that's comming. I think it will only hurt their(OGN) position.
Yeah, but the players/Kespa are still really sensitive about it.
And I really can't begrudge OGN trying its best to promote its business. I'm not going to like it though.
On July 03 2012 20:55 BgSBendeR wrote: I doubt Fantasy will be able to concentrate on the game. He has the cute booth girl. Can't concentrate with that. Soo will win first game.
I notice all these KT fans that don't want Fantasy to win, they are scared and don't want them to even play because they don't have confidence in Flash I guess.
On July 03 2012 20:45 Zona wrote: I wonder if Fantasy vs soo will be over faster than all of that
Something tells me they might fool around and do some funky shit. With Fantasy coming out the winner at the end obviously.
I don't expect that... since matchfixing is super taboo.
It's a part of the BW history now. Every sport that matters has some match fixing scandal.
What I don't get is why they are using all those sentimental moments and collages. Because to me they are only a reminder of how good BW was(and still is) and all the great moments that came to past...contrasting with the crap that's comming. I think it will only hurt their(OGN) position.
I don't think the people working on the production of these shows like the decision to switch. The commentators certainly do not.
On July 03 2012 20:45 Zona wrote: I wonder if Fantasy vs soo will be over faster than all of that
Something tells me they might fool around and do some funky shit. With Fantasy coming out the winner at the end obviously.
I don't expect that... since matchfixing is super taboo.
It's a part of the BW history now. Every sport that matters has some match fixing scandal.
What I don't get is why they are using all those sentimental moments and collages. Because to me they are only a reminder of how good BW was(and still is) and all the great moments that came to past...contrasting with the crap that's comming. I think it will only hurt their(OGN) position.
I don't think the people working on the production of these shows like the decision to switch. The commentators certainly do not.
It happens everywhere, sometimes you have go with the stream even if no one really likes it.
On July 03 2012 20:45 Zona wrote: I wonder if Fantasy vs soo will be over faster than all of that
Something tells me they might fool around and do some funky shit. With Fantasy coming out the winner at the end obviously.
I don't expect that... since matchfixing is super taboo.
It's a part of the BW history now. Every sport that matters has some match fixing scandal.
What I don't get is why they are using all those sentimental moments and collages. Because to me they are only a reminder of how good BW was(and still is) and all the great moments that came to past...contrasting with the crap that's comming. I think it will only hurt their(OGN) position.
I don't think the people working on the production of these shows like the decision to switch. The commentators certainly do not.
What are they going to do, jump ship to another channel? MBCGame closing up shop was a huge shift...now OGN are the masters and Kespa the beggars.
You know it's the last OSL ever: if Fantasy loses a teamkill if we're going to see a Bo5 of the 2 last terran heroes if there's a sequel to the epic Fantasy vs Jangbi; or if Flash defeats the 2 finalists of the previous season to break the records.
Whatever. I prefer not seeing soo in the Ro4 just like last season(KILLER!!! ). Go Fantasy!!!
pure marine being picked off but mutas in fantasy's main but he has mnmnf rushign frowards soo adding sunkens as his mutas continue to fight but mutas rallied get DESTROYED by mobile mnm!
noooo...soo moved out with his lurkers unmorphed, his mutas pick off a vessel but his ground forces gets vaporized....fantasy now beelining NW nydus done
vessels irradiating lurkers - not guardians? like 8 guardians bearing down but fantasy just rushes forwards to the 4th and mows down the hatch - and now the guardians getting cleanedup
On July 03 2012 21:32 moochu wrote: Gg fantasy is in a different class.
Does this kid remind anyone else of sea?
No, Soo is in a different class
...of bad.
I'm still rather convinced he could've won the game when he had mutas in Fanta's base, if he handled them properly and committed more to focusing on them.
On July 03 2012 21:34 letian wrote: When I see a TvZ like this, I can't get rid of JD flashbacks and how he handled all those terrans pretty everywhere, ahh, sweet old times
I remember him having some problems with late game mech tbh.
On July 03 2012 21:34 letian wrote: When I see a TvZ like this, I can't get rid of JD flashbacks and how he handled all those terrans pretty everywhere, ahh, sweet old times
I remember him having some problems with late game mech tbh.
I don't remember a good game from JD at all recently tbh)))
On July 03 2012 21:34 letian wrote: When I see a TvZ like this, I can't get rid of JD flashbacks and how he handled all those terrans pretty everywhere, ahh, sweet old times
I remember him having some problems with late game mech tbh.
I don't remember a good game from JD at all recently tbh)))
On July 03 2012 21:31 letian wrote: I think Soo's only bet is some cheese, since he simply can't win Fanta in macro game. Pretty one-sided.
I haven't seen any zerg solve the latest version of the late game vulture/mine/tank transition (employed primarily by Flash, and today by Fantasy)
Queens!!
Maybe... The emphasis is actually on mines first so that the zerg can't do anything (and mass turrets at expos to limit the strength of drops), the tanks come later I do wish we had more of an opportunity to see some of the woongjin zergs take a crack at this style of play.
On July 03 2012 21:31 letian wrote: I think Soo's only bet is some cheese, since he simply can't win Fanta in macro game. Pretty one-sided.
I haven't seen any zerg solve the latest version of the late game vulture/mine/tank transition (employed primarily by Flash, and today by Fantasy)
Queens!!
ALternatively, you can do a Calm and use hydras (you need the den for lurkers anyway), mass them and atack head on into a tight choke where all the mech is gonna be. Since you will be able to find all the tanks. the battle surely will go in your favour :D
On July 03 2012 21:34 letian wrote: When I see a TvZ like this, I can't get rid of JD flashbacks and how he handled all those terrans pretty everywhere, ahh, sweet old times
I remember him having some problems with late game mech tbh.
I don't remember a good game from JD at all recently tbh)))
On July 03 2012 21:25 Sawamura wrote: fanta gives up playing bio because it isn't very good and switches to mech.
Are we watching the same damn game? Have you paid attention to the last couple seasons of BW?
Fantasy's damn good with bio now. And I'm shocked (not) that you can't recognize your favorite player's standard endgame strategy.
he was losing a lot of mnm to mutas in the middle of the game and I call that bad play when you have 5 rax pumping mnm all the time .
lol ok
Actually those mm losses in the middle and failed natural bust, would be an autowin for a any good zerg. Maybe Soo is just bad. Fantasy didn't play that well at all in the beginning.
Took me forever and Nal_Ra to give the list to Nada. But he got it and was very moved by the support he had internationally. Only thing we failed at was getting the sign properly in a photo as i only got to take one before he had to move on to all the other fans waiting for him. Everyone who pmed me was on the list and Ill upload a photo of the sign aswell as Nada and me in a blog post Ill be writting in not to long. Thank you for all those who have supported Nada
side note: i missed a lot of fanatasy vs soo, but i did hear something about guardians o.o
On July 03 2012 21:42 Vlanitak wrote: Took me forever and Nal_Ra to give the list to Nada. But he got it and was very moved by the support he had internationally. Only thing we failed at was getting the sign properly in a photo as i only got to take one before he had to move on to all the other fans waiting for him. Everyone who pmed me was on the list and Ill upload a photo of the sign aswell as Nada and me in a blog post Ill be writting in not to long. Thank you for all those who have supported Nada
side note: i missed a lot of fanatasy vs soo, but i did hear something about guardians o.o
On July 03 2012 21:42 Vlanitak wrote: Took me forever and Nal_Ra to give the list to Nada. But he got it and was very moved by the support he had internationally. Only thing we failed at was getting the sign properly in a photo as i only got to take one before he had to move on to all the other fans waiting for him. Everyone who pmed me was on the list and Ill upload a photo of the sign aswell as Nada and me in a blog post Ill be writting in not to long. Thank you for all those who have supported Nada
side note: i missed a lot of fanatasy vs soo, but i did hear something about guardians o.o
Amazing, thanks a lot! Yeah, soo made guardians, game 1 was pretty good.
On July 03 2012 21:42 Vlanitak wrote: Took me forever and Nal_Ra to give the list to Nada. But he got it and was very moved by the support he had internationally. Only thing we failed at was getting the sign properly in a photo as i only got to take one before he had to move on to all the other fans waiting for him. Everyone who pmed me was on the list and Ill upload a photo of the sign aswell as Nada and me in a blog post Ill be writting in not to long. Thank you for all those who have supported Nada
side note: i missed a lot of fanatasy vs soo, but i did hear something about guardians o.o
On July 03 2012 21:47 sharkie wrote: Why would you ever ever make NOT A WALL AS TERRAN?
uhh do you watch SC2 by any chance?
what does this have to do with sc2?
because walling in is less common in BW than in SC2
actually wallings used in almost every matchup minus TvT, its always just a way to be safe
nope
1 rax FE in TvP you don't wall and it's become the standard walling is also not a necessity in TvZ, it's not unheard of however generally proxy or forward rax is more common in TvT
it's less common than in sc2 where you will see a wall in 100% of the time vs Z for instance
On July 03 2012 21:50 arb wrote: think soo might have this one if he plays it well
On July 03 2012 21:50 Motivate wrote:
On July 03 2012 21:48 sharkie wrote:
On July 03 2012 21:48 Motivate wrote:
On July 03 2012 21:47 sharkie wrote: Why would you ever ever make NOT A WALL AS TERRAN?
uhh do you watch SC2 by any chance?
what does this have to do with sc2?
because walling in is less common in BW than in SC2
actually wallings used in almost every matchup minus TvT, its always just a way to be safe
nope
1 rax FE in TvP you don't wall and it's become the standard walling is also not a necessity in TvZ, it's not unheard of however generally proxy or forward rax is more common in TvT
i should have probably said it's not essential... it's still common, but it's less common than in sc2 where you will see a wall in 100% of the time vs Z for instance
maybe ive been away from BW for too long then.. >.>
On July 03 2012 21:53 Ghostcom wrote: This is Soo's game to lose, but I have an eerie feeling that he will somehow find a way to do so... I really hope I'm wrong though >_>
On July 03 2012 21:53 Ghostcom wrote: This is Soo's game to lose, but I have an eerie feeling that he will somehow find a way to do so... I really hope I'm wrong though >_>
You were saying? :-)))))))))))
Sadly I was right I'm still kinda amazed how he managed to do so though!
soO lost when he decided to open with a muta harass and 99% of Zergs would do that vs a T. No way mutas can kill wraiths and hydra switch was late when he saw wraiths.
On July 03 2012 21:57 BlindKill wrote: another noob question: why didnt fantasy make valkries? arent those AoE anti air ( played campaign when i was like 7)?
On July 03 2012 21:57 BlindKill wrote: another noob question: why didnt fantasy make valkries? arent those AoE anti air ( played campaign when i was like 7)?
He needed invisibility from Wraiths and ground attack to kill lings harass or sunkens.
On July 03 2012 21:58 Hazzyboy wrote: soO lost when he decided to open with a muta harass and 99% of Zergs would do that vs a T. No way mutas can kill wraiths and hydra switch was late when he saw wraiths.
Continuing to produce lings would have won, methinks, but it's a difficult choice to make since soo had only 2 hatcheries' worth of larva but with fantasy's walls getting broken and no vulture speed (or even machine shop) that could have done it
On July 03 2012 21:57 BlindKill wrote: another noob question: why didnt fantasy make valkries? arent those AoE anti air ( played campaign when i was like 7)?
They are hard to micro and less mobile
+expensive and die easily
He probably didn't want to spend that extra money on the armory either.
On July 03 2012 21:57 BlindKill wrote: another noob question: why didnt fantasy make valkries? arent those AoE anti air ( played campaign when i was like 7)?
He needed invisibility from Wraiths and ground attack to kill lings harass or sunkens.
dahhhhh if hes in a position to attack sunkens with wraiths im pretty sure he's won any way
On July 03 2012 21:57 BlindKill wrote: another noob question: why didnt fantasy make valkries? arent those AoE anti air ( played campaign when i was like 7)?
He needed invisibility from Wraiths and ground attack to kill lings harass or sunkens.
You also have to wait a long time for valks - +armory/+control tower
On July 03 2012 21:57 BlindKill wrote: another noob question: why didnt fantasy make valkries? arent those AoE anti air ( played campaign when i was like 7)?
They are hard to micro and less mobile
+expensive and die easily
He probably didn't want to spend that extra money on the armory either.
also 2 scourge will destroy a valk in small numbers, its extremly high risk.
On July 03 2012 21:57 BlindKill wrote: another noob question: why didnt fantasy make valkries? arent those AoE anti air ( played campaign when i was like 7)?
He needed invisibility from Wraiths and ground attack to kill lings harass or sunkens.
You also have to wait a long time for valks - +armory/+control tower
To be fair he did already have the control tower for cloak though.
On July 03 2012 22:02 sharkie wrote: So terrans dont do wallins because it costs what 100 minerals more in the long run?
Haha why are you so bugged about it? I personally avoid walling in because not just that I'm losing mining time in the very early game, but the depots also makes going in or out of the base harder in case of drops or just pumping stuff like tanks.
On July 03 2012 22:02 sharkie wrote: So terrans dont do wallins because it costs what 100 minerals more in the long run?
Haha why are you so bugged about it? I personally avoid walling in because not just that I'm losing mining time in the very early game, but the depots also makes going in or out of the base harder in case of drops or just pumping stuff like tanks.
It's bugging me because I have seen quite a lot of terrans die to zerglings because they refused to make wallins.
So I was just wondering what I have missed that makes wallins bad.
On July 03 2012 22:02 sharkie wrote: So terrans dont do wallins because it costs what 100 minerals more in the long run?
Haha why are you so bugged about it? I personally avoid walling in because not just that I'm losing mining time in the very early game, but the depots also makes going in or out of the base harder in case of drops or just pumping stuff like tanks.
It's bugging me because I have seen quite a lot of terrans die to zerglings because they refused to make wallins.
So I was just wondering what I have missed that makes wallins bad.
In the mid/late game you have a depot standing there at your ramp, mindfucking the shit out of the AI, when you are producing from a lot of structures
For a last OSL we have pretty good finish I think. Of course people would have prefered Fantasy, Flash, Bisu, Jaedong, Stork a combination of those players to be there, but this is too unrealistic anyway. However, now we have all 3 races + an epic semi FvF fighting for the Terran throne + perhaps top 3 zerg for the last couple of years vs top 3 protoss for the last couple of years fighting who will challenge terran dominion in the finals + guranteed non mirror final. More or less we have everything there
On July 03 2012 22:25 M2 wrote: For a last OSL we have pretty good finish I think. Of course people would have prefered Fantasy, Flash, Bisu, Jaedong, Stork a combination of those players to be there, but this is too unrealistic anyway. However, now we have all 3 races + an epic semi FvF fighting for the Terran throne + perhaps top 3 zerg for the last couple of years vs top 3 protoss for the last couple of years fighting who will challenge terran dominion in the finals + guranteed non mirror final. More or less we have everything there
Yeah. First of all, we have Fantasy and Flash. And Jangbi and Zero are top tier, too.
I said it already, but it cannot be overstated enough!
THANK YOU FOR THE PRO LR ZONA! I hope you will be there for us for the rest of the OSL (FvF and finals especially). Also thanks for the awesome banner, Hyde. Hyde banna best banna!
(Vote): Jangbi vs Fantasy (Vote): Flash vs Zero (Vote): Jangbi vs Flash (Vote): Zero vs Fantasy
The best final is obviously JvF (either Flash or Fantasy, no preference here) due to the fact that ZerO just can't seem to perform up to par vs either of the two....
In this season of SK Proleague alone, Fantasy is now on a 4-0 winning streak against ZerO, whereas Flash is 7-4 against ZerO all time...
ZerO has indeed shown S-class in his play, but as displayed in the ABC Mart MSL Finals, his performance does worry me versus the best of the best. :/ This is mainly the reason why I want JangBi to win. He beat Fantasy in JinAir and recently Flash in the group stages. My biggest concern for JangBi is that PvZ is going to be very difficult vs ZerO...T_T
I do think it would be nice to see either fanta win his second gold and end his BW career with a bang or Flash acquiring the his fourth OSL and finally break NaDa's all time record of six individual league titles.
At this point, I do not care who wins - all players in the semifinals are competent so all I request is that good games be shown in this last Starcraft tournament that actually matters.
Is there any way or place where one could watch the ceremony with NaDa and AnyTime before and after their Legends Match at OSL Ro8? The youtube channel esports.tv only has the actual match, not the interviews and NaDa presented with flowers from many other well-known players. Did anyone re-stream it?
Maybe this will be my first BW match I watch live Can't wait for FvF! The biggest nerd chills I have ever had is when Flash stepped onto the stage after Fantasy came on in the SPL 10-11 finals.
And the most pissed off I've been after watching a game, coincidently, is that game I was rooting for Flash
as much as I like Fantasy and think he's gonna go down as one of the best Terrans of all time... it needs to be JangBi vs Flash... back to back titles for Protoss since GARIMTO vs 4 BW OSL titles
Hahahaha and Fantasy consumes another of his teammates in the typical cannibalistic ritual he always does. FvF! I don't know if I'll be able to watch it though D:
Oh and Nada... You will never be forgotten as one of the greatest Terrans of all time, Lee Yoon Yeol. T___T I'll always remember your epic games back in your heyday.
On July 04 2012 06:45 amazingoopah wrote: as much as I like Fantasy and think he's gonna go down as one of the best Terrans of all time... it needs to be JangBi vs Flash... back to back titles for Protoss since GARIMTO vs 4 BW OSL titles
meh.. I always wondered, why people get so exited for some stupid numbers.
Fantasy and Zero, because they are my favorite terran and zerg (both for creativity and "unusualness" in playstyle).
On July 04 2012 03:30 Proseat wrote: Is there any way or place where one could watch the ceremony with NaDa and AnyTime before and after their Legends Match at OSL Ro8? The youtube channel esports.tv only has the actual match, not the interviews and NaDa presented with flowers from many other well-known players. Did anyone re-stream it?
Told ya. Fantasy is raping this season, he plays an extremely high lvl broodwar. His strategical dismantling of Zero in SPL is also a testimony of his current shape. He deserves to win it all or at least go out with a bang against Flash or Jangbi in the finals.
On July 04 2012 08:25 dRaW wrote: wow I expected Fantasy to win this OSL, but goddamn he destroyed soo easily!
He didn't "win this OSL", he merely beat his team mate Soo which was kind of expected anyway. The real challenge for him lies in the Round of 4 against Flash.
On July 04 2012 08:25 dRaW wrote: wow I expected Fantasy to win this OSL, but goddamn he destroyed soo easily!
He didn't "win this OSL", he merely beat his team mate Soo which was kind of expected anyway. .
Um. He's saying he predicted fantasy to win the OSL, but implies that he's surprised SoO didn't put up a better fight along fantasy's path to the title. He doesn't think fantasy just won the OSL... So snide.
:/
Holy hell on earth, Soo control and rally points basically cost him any chance of winning a game. Would have liked to see a valk though!
On July 04 2012 10:28 rebdomine wrote: I wonder though. Who are these guys practicing with?
I'm sure a lot of their teammates would rather spend their time preparing for the future (which is unfortunately SC2).
I really wonder how the remaining OSL players practice.
For ro8 it was something like this/
JangBi Jangbi: "Hey, Brave, you will help me practice BW PvP. Problems?"
ZerO Zero: "I'm better then you!" Soulkey: "You kidding, right?" Zero: "You will never become better then me if you can't win in.... bo101!" Soulkey: "prepare yourself then, bo101 starting now!" Zero to himself: mission accomplished
Flash Flash: "Hey coach I need some BW zerg to rape" Coach Lee: "Of course, your Godness. Would you like younger one with pretty face?" Flash: "What? No! I need zerg for practice!" Coach Lee: "Oh, sorry for misunderstanding, please show your mercy", to ktzergs: "hey slaves, stop doing whats your doing and play vs Flash, or no food for you!"
Fantasy s2: "hey Fanta, need a practice partner?" Fantasy: "What practice? I have Soo in ro8" s2: "he is right behind you" Fantasy: "shit, I guess I need to play a couple of games, pretending preparing, or kid will feel bad otherwise"
On July 04 2012 10:28 rebdomine wrote: I wonder though. Who are these guys practicing with?
I'm sure a lot of their teammates would rather spend their time preparing for the future (which is unfortunately SC2).
I really wonder how the remaining OSL players practice.
For ro8 it was something like this/
JangBi Jangbi: "Hey, Brave, you will help me practice BW PvP. Problems?"
ZerO Zero: "I'm better then you!" Soulkey: "You kidding, right?" Zero: "You will never become better then me if you can't win in.... bo101!" Soulkey: "prepare yourself then, bo101 starting now!" Zero to himself: mission accomplished
Flash Flash: "Hey coach I need some BW zerg to rape" Coach Lee: "Of course, your Godness. Would you like younger one with pretty face?" Flash: "What? No! I need zerg for practice!" Coach Lee: "Oh, sorry for misunderstanding, please show your mercy", to ktzergs: "hey slaves, stop doing whats your doing and play vs Flash, or no food for you!"
Fantasy s2: "hey Fanta, need a practice partner?" Fantasy: "What practice? I have Soo in ro8" s2: "he is right behind you" Fantasy: "shit, I guess I need to play a couple of games, pretending preparing, or kid will feel bad otherwise"
Chuckled at Flash, then LOLed at Fantasy. I'm not sure how Fanta's gonna prepare though, KT has LOLMind for Flash to beat up on.
On July 04 2012 10:28 rebdomine wrote: I wonder though. Who are these guys practicing with?
I'm sure a lot of their teammates would rather spend their time preparing for the future (which is unfortunately SC2).
I really wonder how the remaining OSL players practice.
For ro8 it was something like this/
JangBi Jangbi: "Hey, Brave, you will help me practice BW PvP. Problems?"
ZerO Zero: "I'm better then you!" Soulkey: "You kidding, right?" Zero: "You will never become better then me if you can't win in.... bo101!" Soulkey: "prepare yourself then, bo101 starting now!" Zero to himself: mission accomplished
Flash Flash: "Hey coach I need some BW zerg to rape" Coach Lee: "Of course, your Godness. Would you like younger one with pretty face?" Flash: "What? No! I need zerg for practice!" Coach Lee: "Oh, sorry for misunderstanding, please show your mercy", to ktzergs: "hey slaves, stop doing whats your doing and play vs Flash, or no food for you!"
Fantasy s2: "hey Fanta, need a practice partner?" Fantasy: "What practice? I have Soo in ro8" s2: "he is right behind you" Fantasy: "shit, I guess I need to play a couple of games, pretending preparing, or kid will feel bad otherwise"
On July 04 2012 10:28 rebdomine wrote: I wonder though. Who are these guys practicing with?
I'm sure a lot of their teammates would rather spend their time preparing for the future (which is unfortunately SC2).
I really wonder how the remaining OSL players practice.
For ro8 it was something like this/
JangBi Jangbi: "Hey, Brave, you will help me practice BW PvP. Problems?"
ZerO Zero: "I'm better then you!" Soulkey: "You kidding, right?" Zero: "You will never become better then me if you can't win in.... bo101!" Soulkey: "prepare yourself then, bo101 starting now!" Zero to himself: mission accomplished
Flash Flash: "Hey coach I need some BW zerg to rape" Coach Lee: "Of course, your Godness. Would you like younger one with pretty face?" Flash: "What? No! I need zerg for practice!" Coach Lee: "Oh, sorry for misunderstanding, please show your mercy", to ktzergs: "hey slaves, stop doing whats your doing and play vs Flash, or no food for you!"
Fantasy s2: "hey Fanta, need a practice partner?" Fantasy: "What practice? I have Soo in ro8" s2: "he is right behind you" Fantasy: "shit, I guess I need to play a couple of games, pretending preparing, or kid will feel bad otherwise"
Flash vs Fantasy will obviously be the most contested/competitive match, and I'm sort of hoping for a Fantasy vs Jangbi final. Could be the start of another rivalry.
Meanwhile, Zero is the most erratic zerg ever and I highly doubt anything exciting will result from him being in a final. Zero always falls under pressure.
On July 04 2012 10:28 rebdomine wrote: I wonder though. Who are these guys practicing with?
I'm sure a lot of their teammates would rather spend their time preparing for the future (which is unfortunately SC2).
I really wonder how the remaining OSL players practice.
For ro8 it was something like this/
JangBi Jangbi: "Hey, Brave, you will help me practice BW PvP. Problems?"
ZerO Zero: "I'm better then you!" Soulkey: "You kidding, right?" Zero: "You will never become better then me if you can't win in.... bo101!" Soulkey: "prepare yourself then, bo101 starting now!" Zero to himself: mission accomplished
Flash Flash: "Hey coach I need some BW zerg to rape" Coach Lee: "Of course, your Godness. Would you like younger one with pretty face?" Flash: "What? No! I need zerg for practice!" Coach Lee: "Oh, sorry for misunderstanding, please show your mercy", to ktzergs: "hey slaves, stop doing whats your doing and play vs Flash, or no food for you!"
Fantasy s2: "hey Fanta, need a practice partner?" Fantasy: "What practice? I have Soo in ro8" s2: "he is right behind you" Fantasy: "shit, I guess I need to play a couple of games, pretending preparing, or kid will feel bad otherwise"
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NaDa < Tau Cross > 
Anytime
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literally been looking forward to this match for the last 3 weeks 
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