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elagrion
Profile Joined April 2010
Ukraine422 Posts
May 29 2012 23:38 GMT
#321
On May 29 2012 15:23 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2012 15:23 hmmm... wrote:
fantasy is god


no.

I recently started to study photography, and what I can say, that fantasy is more important than flash.
Everything is a remix.
elagrion
Profile Joined April 2010
Ukraine422 Posts
May 29 2012 23:42 GMT
#322
Honestly, after being destroyed in BW, this win doesn't really feel like a win...
Everything is a remix.
rebdomine
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
6040 Posts
May 29 2012 23:56 GMT
#323
On May 30 2012 08:42 elagrion wrote:
Honestly, after being destroyed in BW, this win doesn't really feel like a win...


And we feel awful after losing despite Bisu and Fantasy winning their BW sets like they should be.

Guess we're even.
"Just because you are correct doesn't mean you are right!"
GhoSt[shield]
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2131 Posts
May 30 2012 00:22 GMT
#324
+ Show Spoiler +
On May 30 2012 08:56 rebdomine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2012 08:42 elagrion wrote:
Honestly, after being destroyed in BW, this win doesn't really feel like a win...


And we feel awful after losing despite Bisu and Fantasy winning their BW sets like they should be.

Guess we're even.


Never thought it would be possible to be unhappy after watching Fantasy and Bisu win their sets in BW (especially after watching Fantasy's pleasing bio control.)

The Hype and Excitement of Proleague feels somehow emptier. Just a comment from a spectator and SKT fan.
sM.Zik
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2553 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-30 03:45:04
May 30 2012 03:44 GMT
#325
On May 30 2012 09:22 GhoSt[shield] wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On May 30 2012 08:56 rebdomine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2012 08:42 elagrion wrote:
Honestly, after being destroyed in BW, this win doesn't really feel like a win...


And we feel awful after losing despite Bisu and Fantasy winning their BW sets like they should be.

Guess we're even.


Never thought it would be possible to be unhappy after watching Fantasy and Bisu win their sets in BW (especially after watching Fantasy's pleasing bio control.)

The Hype and Excitement of Proleague feels somehow emptier. Just a comment from a spectator and SKT fan.


It is emptier. We shouldnt have 2 differents LR thread, most people on the Sc2 thread seem open about bw.. Well I know it has already been discussed a lot so I guess it won't happen.
Jaedong Fighting! | youtube.com/ZikGaming
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10346 Posts
May 30 2012 04:20 GMT
#326
I find that I am not adjusting to this hybrid league well at all. I miss BW ace matches so much
[21:07] <Shock710> whats wrong with her face [20:50] <dAPhREAk> i beat it the day after it came out | <BLinD-RawR> esports is a giant vagina
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
May 30 2012 05:06 GMT
#327
On May 30 2012 13:20 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
I find that I am not adjusting to this hybrid league well at all. I miss BW ace matches so much


Alternative being they still emphasize on BW would just means they have to had another transitional league after this one. They would just lose all of their BW fans if they went from a BW ace match league to a pure SC2 league, this way they at least make sure the BW fans have some degree of personal stake in SC2 and give it a chance. The goal is to transition BW players to SC2 unfortunately, if you go by this agenda this is pretty much they best they can do.
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
May 30 2012 06:55 GMT
#328
On May 30 2012 14:06 Caihead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2012 13:20 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
I find that I am not adjusting to this hybrid league well at all. I miss BW ace matches so much


Alternative being they still emphasize on BW would just means they have to had another transitional league after this one. They would just lose all of their BW fans if they went from a BW ace match league to a pure SC2 league, this way they at least make sure the BW fans have some degree of personal stake in SC2 and give it a chance. The goal is to transition BW players to SC2 unfortunately, if you go by this agenda this is pretty much they best they can do.

Problem with this is that PL is dead to many of us now.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6183 Posts
May 30 2012 06:59 GMT
#329
On May 30 2012 08:56 rebdomine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2012 08:42 elagrion wrote:
Honestly, after being destroyed in BW, this win doesn't really feel like a win...


And we feel awful after losing despite Bisu and Fantasy winning their BW sets like they should be.

Guess we're even.

hehe well at least I am happy just becouse Fantasy and Bisu won! both are players that I've loved since their beginning. I don't watch sc2.
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19366 Posts
May 30 2012 14:49 GMT
#330
On May 30 2012 15:59 Piste wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2012 08:56 rebdomine wrote:
On May 30 2012 08:42 elagrion wrote:
Honestly, after being destroyed in BW, this win doesn't really feel like a win...


And we feel awful after losing despite Bisu and Fantasy winning their BW sets like they should be.

Guess we're even.

hehe well at least I am happy just becouse Fantasy and Bisu won! both are players that I've loved since their beginning. I don't watch sc2.

I'm just confused why Fantasy wasn't played in the ACE match. I was hoping at least SKT would continue to play their S-class players in the ACE match unlike other teams like KT that keep playing Lizzy. It makes me furious. If the leagues must coexist then let me see my favorite players play ! I'm really glad they won the BW section and those games were awesome to watch but the results of this match made me very sad and start to rethink the PL direction. /confused.

+ Show Spoiler [KT Rage] +
And yes, I hate KT even more now because they play that stupid kid with that god aweful name and he's ruining it for a team that felt so complete last season. At least KT looked respectable last season.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
rysecake
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2632 Posts
May 30 2012 21:24 GMT
#331
On May 30 2012 23:49 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2012 15:59 Piste wrote:
On May 30 2012 08:56 rebdomine wrote:
On May 30 2012 08:42 elagrion wrote:
Honestly, after being destroyed in BW, this win doesn't really feel like a win...


And we feel awful after losing despite Bisu and Fantasy winning their BW sets like they should be.

Guess we're even.

hehe well at least I am happy just becouse Fantasy and Bisu won! both are players that I've loved since their beginning. I don't watch sc2.

I'm just confused why Fantasy wasn't played in the ACE match. I was hoping at least SKT would continue to play their S-class players in the ACE match unlike other teams like KT that keep playing Lizzy. It makes me furious. If the leagues must coexist then let me see my favorite players play ! I'm really glad they won the BW section and those games were awesome to watch but the results of this match made me very sad and start to rethink the PL direction. /confused.

+ Show Spoiler [KT Rage] +
And yes, I hate KT even more now because they play that stupid kid with that god aweful name and he's ruining it for a team that felt so complete last season. At least KT looked respectable last season.


With some of the other teams, their aces are actually their best/or top tier sc2 player. Like effort for cj, jaedong may not be the best sc2 player on his team but he looks like one of the best, when compared to jaehoon anyway...

Fantasy on the other hand looked kinda underwhelming in sc2. Probably still practicing a lot of sc1.
The Notorious Winkles
rebdomine
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
6040 Posts
May 31 2012 02:23 GMT
#332
On May 31 2012 06:24 rysecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2012 23:49 BisuDagger wrote:
On May 30 2012 15:59 Piste wrote:
On May 30 2012 08:56 rebdomine wrote:
On May 30 2012 08:42 elagrion wrote:
Honestly, after being destroyed in BW, this win doesn't really feel like a win...


And we feel awful after losing despite Bisu and Fantasy winning their BW sets like they should be.

Guess we're even.

hehe well at least I am happy just becouse Fantasy and Bisu won! both are players that I've loved since their beginning. I don't watch sc2.

I'm just confused why Fantasy wasn't played in the ACE match. I was hoping at least SKT would continue to play their S-class players in the ACE match unlike other teams like KT that keep playing Lizzy. It makes me furious. If the leagues must coexist then let me see my favorite players play ! I'm really glad they won the BW section and those games were awesome to watch but the results of this match made me very sad and start to rethink the PL direction. /confused.

+ Show Spoiler [KT Rage] +
And yes, I hate KT even more now because they play that stupid kid with that god aweful name and he's ruining it for a team that felt so complete last season. At least KT looked respectable last season.


With some of the other teams, their aces are actually their best/or top tier sc2 player. Like effort for cj, jaedong may not be the best sc2 player on his team but he looks like one of the best, when compared to jaehoon anyway...

Fantasy on the other hand looked kinda underwhelming in sc2. Probably still practicing a lot of sc1.


I don't blame him. Not when it looks like this OSL is pretty much winnable.
"Just because you are correct doesn't mean you are right!"
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19366 Posts
May 31 2012 02:56 GMT
#333
On May 31 2012 11:23 rebdomine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2012 06:24 rysecake wrote:
On May 30 2012 23:49 BisuDagger wrote:
On May 30 2012 15:59 Piste wrote:
On May 30 2012 08:56 rebdomine wrote:
On May 30 2012 08:42 elagrion wrote:
Honestly, after being destroyed in BW, this win doesn't really feel like a win...


And we feel awful after losing despite Bisu and Fantasy winning their BW sets like they should be.

Guess we're even.

hehe well at least I am happy just becouse Fantasy and Bisu won! both are players that I've loved since their beginning. I don't watch sc2.

I'm just confused why Fantasy wasn't played in the ACE match. I was hoping at least SKT would continue to play their S-class players in the ACE match unlike other teams like KT that keep playing Lizzy. It makes me furious. If the leagues must coexist then let me see my favorite players play ! I'm really glad they won the BW section and those games were awesome to watch but the results of this match made me very sad and start to rethink the PL direction. /confused.

+ Show Spoiler [KT Rage] +
And yes, I hate KT even more now because they play that stupid kid with that god aweful name and he's ruining it for a team that felt so complete last season. At least KT looked respectable last season.


With some of the other teams, their aces are actually their best/or top tier sc2 player. Like effort for cj, jaedong may not be the best sc2 player on his team but he looks like one of the best, when compared to jaehoon anyway...

Fantasy on the other hand looked kinda underwhelming in sc2. Probably still practicing a lot of sc1.


I don't blame him. Not when it looks like this OSL is pretty much winnable.


True, but he still looks very good in both IMO. Bisu is underwhelming in SC2 however. But Best seemed like a good option too.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
Sethronu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United Kingdom450 Posts
May 31 2012 05:12 GMT
#334
It's not like Sun is some no-name B-teamer either, really. I don't really see why are people angry about that; sure I'd love to see more of FBB, but there's nothing wrong with playing Sun either!
sM.Zik
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2553 Posts
May 31 2012 06:50 GMT
#335
Teams are still figuring out Sc2, these games doesnt mean much keep that in mind. Everything should be back to normal after a couple of weeks of PL.
Jaedong Fighting! | youtube.com/ZikGaming
Hazzyboy
Profile Joined January 2012
Estonia555 Posts
May 31 2012 10:23 GMT
#336
On May 30 2012 07:27 rslee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2012 05:20 Hazzyboy wrote:
Explain how SKT winning 3-2 had to play an ACE game which made it 3-3 an Stars won? WTF is SC2 win = 2 BW wins or what am I missing? Kespa is a joke with their pathetic hybrid system which is a failure which makes players play different game. Hey lets make a Hybrid football/basketball league with same players struggling to entertain us.


It's really not that hard to understand. Don't blame KeSPA for you're inability to understand a simple duel Bo3.

I watched PL for eternity and BO3 means that a team to 3 wins 1st wins. Duel system is for OSL/MSL and PL was always about team system. Kespa showed once again that they don't have a clue and created a slave league of some sort where a B-Teamer who would have 0 pro games is an ACE clutch playah.
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19366 Posts
May 31 2012 13:04 GMT
#337
On May 31 2012 19:23 Hazzyboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2012 07:27 rslee wrote:
On May 30 2012 05:20 Hazzyboy wrote:
Explain how SKT winning 3-2 had to play an ACE game which made it 3-3 an Stars won? WTF is SC2 win = 2 BW wins or what am I missing? Kespa is a joke with their pathetic hybrid system which is a failure which makes players play different game. Hey lets make a Hybrid football/basketball league with same players struggling to entertain us.


It's really not that hard to understand. Don't blame KeSPA for you're inability to understand a simple duel Bo3.

I watched PL for eternity and BO3 means that a team to 3 wins 1st wins. Duel system is for OSL/MSL and PL was always about team system. Kespa showed once again that they don't have a clue and created a slave league of some sort where a B-Teamer who would have 0 pro games is an ACE clutch playah.


I wouldn't say Lizzy is clutch. His inexperience def shows. I agree with the above post that we must wait a few more weeks to see if it equalizes yet. However, I don't like having my team lose so be prepared to have nerd rage ensue soon.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
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