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Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4179 Posts
April 08 2012 17:37 GMT
#7021
On April 09 2012 01:58 KristianJS wrote:
Honestly I'm happy for Bisu. It's been so long since he got to stand in the sun again, so nice he could take this last opportunity (given his failure to qualify for the OSL).

Flash, I hope he isn't too sad. KT won the last 2 years thanks to him, and made 2nd place which is great this year, so even if he lost both his games, he shouldn't feel sad. Of course he's still the greatest of all time.


Yeah that's right, can't win them all I guess. Hope he recovers soon and continues to dominate.
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5617 Posts
April 08 2012 17:38 GMT
#7022
I just rewatched the ace game. Holy shit, I love Brood War.

"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
SoLoCo
Profile Joined May 2009
United States13 Posts
April 08 2012 17:39 GMT
#7023
OMG!!!! I fell asleep after it was 2-2! Congrats SKT!!! Congrats BISU!
dont get stuck on stupid
Gosi
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Sweden9072 Posts
April 08 2012 17:39 GMT
#7024
On April 09 2012 02:36 konadora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 02:29 GeLaar wrote:
Thinking about it now, I don't think KT could have suffered a worse defeat than this. Had Soo and Ssak not won their games instead of choking, making it 4-0, it would have simply be a decisive win. But I don't think it would have driven Flash to tears. This way, letting it go to ace and defeating Flash twice along the way, had a far more crushing effect, especially since he probably felt responsible that his team lost.

One gem I found while rewatching the last game just now: Right after Bisu defends his proxy Gate from the marines, the observer goes back to Flash's base to see another perfectly placed manner pylon, at which point the commentators go:
"... How many hands does Bisu have?! It's like he's playing with four hands."

The best multi-tasker to ever play the game. No competition.

the thing is, in the post-game interviews, the KT coach revealed that flash actually strongly wanted to play in the ace match, when the coach had other players in mind

makes this kinda feel bad for flash, though a player like him should recover soon

I don't think anyone can or should blame Flash for that either. I mean, he is Flash of all people after all. And the ace match between Bisu and Flash gave the grand final the extra touch that made it all even more awesome. The only thing that could have made it more awesome was if Reach went out as ace and won lol. ^^
[13:40] <Qbek> gosi i dreanmt about you
Massing
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany354 Posts
April 08 2012 17:48 GMT
#7025
are there any vods up? link plz
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66364 Posts
April 08 2012 17:48 GMT
#7026
On April 09 2012 02:48 Massing wrote:
are there any vods up? link plz

go search ESPORTSTV on youtube
POGGERS
Spekulatius
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany2413 Posts
April 08 2012 17:50 GMT
#7027
Image if they'd sent out Stats. He might have lost and then people would be saying "well why didn't they send Flash. He's god after all".

It was a reasonable choice imo. It was gonna be either him or Stats. And KT has no specific Bisu snipers, given that you can't send a Zerg.

I'm still amazed how well the rest of the team did. Hoejja, playoff god <3
Always smile~
Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
April 08 2012 17:53 GMT
#7028
Best finals series in a long time. Set 2 was a sight to behold, what a change of pace to see Flash being the one constantly one step behind all game.

On April 09 2012 02:50 Spekulatius wrote:
Image if they'd sent out Stats. He might have lost and then people would be saying "well why didn't they send Flash. He's god after all".

It was a reasonable choice imo. It was gonna be either him or Stats. And KT has no specific Bisu snipers, given that you can't send a Zerg.

I'm still amazed how well the rest of the team did. Hoejja, playoff god <3


Yeah, I'm glad they sent Flash. I don't think Bisu vs. Stats would have been as fitting for the last BW final.
SCnai
Profile Joined February 2010
322 Posts
April 08 2012 17:58 GMT
#7029
I'm still lost for words. Perhaps these will do: Broodwar is so beautiful.
The legend of the fall, which everyone thought was only a dream, is being revived! Carriers, the symbol of Protoss, the hope of a million Protoss fans, are reviving the legend!
neobowman
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3324 Posts
April 08 2012 17:59 GMT
#7030
Last game. Oh my god. That early game micro. If Flash and Bisu were playing anyone other than each other, they would've won based on that alone. Holy shit. And that f*cking game. Oh my god. So epic.
GeLaar
Profile Joined January 2003
2421 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-08 18:02:22
April 08 2012 18:02 GMT
#7031
On April 09 2012 02:36 konadora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 02:29 GeLaar wrote:
Thinking about it now, I don't think KT could have suffered a worse defeat than this. Had Soo and Ssak not won their games instead of choking, making it 4-0, it would have simply be a decisive win. But I don't think it would have driven Flash to tears. This way, letting it go to ace and defeating Flash twice along the way, had a far more crushing effect, especially since he probably felt responsible that his team lost.

One gem I found while rewatching the last game just now: Right after Bisu defends his proxy Gate from the marines, the observer goes back to Flash's base to see another perfectly placed manner pylon, at which point the commentators go:
"... How many hands does Bisu have?! It's like he's playing with four hands."

The best multi-tasker to ever play the game. No competition.

the thing is, in the post-game interviews, the KT coach revealed that flash actually strongly wanted to play in the ace match, when the coach had other players in mind

makes this kinda feel bad for flash, though a player like him should recover soon


Ouch. Yeah, that's gotta hurt if he insisted on getting the ace match. But in the end, it can happen to anyone. Other players have also gone 0-2 in one day of PL because they got the ace match after a loss. I'm sure he'll be back on his feet in no time.

That being said, I was actually relieved when they announced the ace match players, because I thought KT were going to send out Hoejja again. I couldn't really tell what Best did wrong, which is very scary, considering how badly he got owned. Hoejja was really dangerous today.
Brood War is alive and well.
GeLaar
Profile Joined January 2003
2421 Posts
April 08 2012 18:03 GMT
#7032
On April 09 2012 02:59 neobowman wrote:
Last game. Oh my god. That early game micro. If Flash and Bisu were playing anyone other than each other, they would've won based on that alone. Holy shit. And that f*cking game. Oh my god. So epic.


The commentators said exactly that thing during the early micro battles. "If they were not facing each other, each of them would have already won by now."
Brood War is alive and well.
neobowman
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3324 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-08 18:05:36
April 08 2012 18:05 GMT
#7033
On April 09 2012 03:03 GeLaar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 02:59 neobowman wrote:
Last game. Oh my god. That early game micro. If Flash and Bisu were playing anyone other than each other, they would've won based on that alone. Holy shit. And that f*cking game. Oh my god. So epic.


The commentators said exactly that thing during the early micro battles. "If they were not facing each other, each of them would have already won by now."

Which is exactly why I posted it =) Shamelessly stealing their thoughts for my own.
elagrion
Profile Joined April 2010
Ukraine422 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-08 18:06:23
April 08 2012 18:05 GMT
#7034
On April 09 2012 03:02 GeLaar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 02:36 konadora wrote:
On April 09 2012 02:29 GeLaar wrote:
Thinking about it now, I don't think KT could have suffered a worse defeat than this. Had Soo and Ssak not won their games instead of choking, making it 4-0, it would have simply be a decisive win. But I don't think it would have driven Flash to tears. This way, letting it go to ace and defeating Flash twice along the way, had a far more crushing effect, especially since he probably felt responsible that his team lost.

One gem I found while rewatching the last game just now: Right after Bisu defends his proxy Gate from the marines, the observer goes back to Flash's base to see another perfectly placed manner pylon, at which point the commentators go:
"... How many hands does Bisu have?! It's like he's playing with four hands."

The best multi-tasker to ever play the game. No competition.

the thing is, in the post-game interviews, the KT coach revealed that flash actually strongly wanted to play in the ace match, when the coach had other players in mind

makes this kinda feel bad for flash, though a player like him should recover soon


Ouch. Yeah, that's gotta hurt if he insisted on getting the ace match. But in the end, it can happen to anyone. Other players have also gone 0-2 in one day of PL because they got the ace match after a loss. I'm sure he'll be back on his feet in no time.

That being said, I was actually relieved when they announced the ace match players, because I thought KT were going to send out Hoejja again. I couldn't really tell what Best did wrong, which is very scary, considering how badly he got owned. Hoejja was really dangerous today.

The thing with (P)BeSt - he hasn't done anything wrong 'cos he hasn't done anything at all. He let zerg player get his tech and bases chilling. And (Z)HoeJJa just happily receive the gift .
Everything is a remix.
GeLaar
Profile Joined January 2003
2421 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-08 18:10:51
April 08 2012 18:10 GMT
#7035
On April 09 2012 03:05 neobowman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 03:03 GeLaar wrote:
On April 09 2012 02:59 neobowman wrote:
Last game. Oh my god. That early game micro. If Flash and Bisu were playing anyone other than each other, they would've won based on that alone. Holy shit. And that f*cking game. Oh my god. So epic.


The commentators said exactly that thing during the early micro battles. "If they were not facing each other, each of them would have already won by now."

Which is exactly why I posted it =) Shamelessly stealing their thoughts for my own.



Gods, it's been several hours now, and the feeling of happiness hasn't subsided... Don't know if I'll get any work done now.

On April 09 2012 03:05 elagrion wrote:
The thing with (P)BeSt - he hasn't done anything wrong 'cos he hasn't done anything at all. He let zerg player get his tech and bases chilling. And (Z)HoeJJa just happily receive the gift .


Yeah, but his BO was pretty standard. He should have punished a greedy Zerg, sure. But at the same time, he had to worry about Hydra busts and Lurkers clearing the temples and going up the ramp. Overall, it seemed to me like he was very far behind just by playing standard.
Brood War is alive and well.
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
April 08 2012 18:10 GMT
#7036
On April 09 2012 03:05 elagrion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 03:02 GeLaar wrote:
On April 09 2012 02:36 konadora wrote:
On April 09 2012 02:29 GeLaar wrote:
Thinking about it now, I don't think KT could have suffered a worse defeat than this. Had Soo and Ssak not won their games instead of choking, making it 4-0, it would have simply be a decisive win. But I don't think it would have driven Flash to tears. This way, letting it go to ace and defeating Flash twice along the way, had a far more crushing effect, especially since he probably felt responsible that his team lost.

One gem I found while rewatching the last game just now: Right after Bisu defends his proxy Gate from the marines, the observer goes back to Flash's base to see another perfectly placed manner pylon, at which point the commentators go:
"... How many hands does Bisu have?! It's like he's playing with four hands."

The best multi-tasker to ever play the game. No competition.

the thing is, in the post-game interviews, the KT coach revealed that flash actually strongly wanted to play in the ace match, when the coach had other players in mind

makes this kinda feel bad for flash, though a player like him should recover soon


Ouch. Yeah, that's gotta hurt if he insisted on getting the ace match. But in the end, it can happen to anyone. Other players have also gone 0-2 in one day of PL because they got the ace match after a loss. I'm sure he'll be back on his feet in no time.

That being said, I was actually relieved when they announced the ace match players, because I thought KT were going to send out Hoejja again. I couldn't really tell what Best did wrong, which is very scary, considering how badly he got owned. Hoejja was really dangerous today.

The thing with (P)BeSt - he hasn't done anything wrong 'cos he hasn't done anything at all. He let zerg player get his tech and bases chilling. And (Z)HoeJJa just happily receive the gift .


Thought that if he didn't build a fuckload of Zealots and went for more archon centric army, he could have had a better fighting chance.
2014 - ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ Raise your bows brood warriors! ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ
Nefas
Profile Joined July 2011
11 Posts
April 08 2012 18:11 GMT
#7037
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Live for the Swarm!
Jaeger
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1150 Posts
April 08 2012 18:17 GMT
#7038
On April 09 2012 02:59 neobowman wrote:
Last game. Oh my god. That early game micro. If Flash and Bisu were playing anyone other than each other, they would've won based on that alone. Holy shit. And that f*cking game. Oh my god. So epic.


Basically my thoughts exactly when watching this, and then again while rewatching it after waking up.
https://www.dotabuff.com/players/8137911
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-08 18:20:19
April 08 2012 18:19 GMT
#7039
On April 09 2012 01:28 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 01:27 GTR wrote:
In my past eight or so years of watching professional Starcraft, this has probably without a doubt been the best finals I've ever witnessed. All of the games were actually fun to watch and the final set was probably one of the most hilarious in Proleague history.


thats big man really big.

I was going to say the same, maybe my word is worth not as much as GTR and other veterans, but i never had as amazing experience contained in 1 match. Even if i am fan of KHAN im glad they didnt went to the finals, it would mean this experience would never exist. You can say im fan of game first fanboy second. I hope i won't get eaten for this later

I had a tear in my eyes when Fanta jumped to the parents after beating Flash in best TvT since MSL. Epic epic epic epic epic. This whole series contained more emotion, vibe and spirit than whole year of SC2 (for me personally). Im not trying to do a sarcastic remark im just saying the truth. I became personally attached while not being really a fan of both teams.

Its really comparable to Jangbi vs Fanta (whats up with this fanta making BW epic :D), it shaped me.
Stork[gm]
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
April 08 2012 18:20 GMT
#7040
Too bad we didn't have a NY gathering in Flushing :/ IT WOULD'VE BEEN EPIC!
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
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