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letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-13 13:57:16
March 13 2012 13:50 GMT
#1001
On March 13 2012 22:43 Elroi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2012 22:41 letian wrote:
Well as you may all have seen, all what is needed for ANY team to get to playoffs are two STABLE players.

T8 had all the deck on its hands, why did Sea underperformed so horrendously, why Baby could not catch up with his momentum once again, and why JD did lose those unnecessary games? (but I would not put it all on JD, honestly)
Sea could have been that second "Stats" for T8 and we would join the fun in playoffs, fuck! JD OZ strikes again.

It feels like I'm going through so much unnecessary pain (yes, pain) by being first a fan of OZ and then T8, I should just hop on the SKT or KT bandwagons. Atleast they can just buy their way through if something goes wrong.

yes, I thought that a lot too. In fact the only reason for us to like Oz and now T8 was JD (at least for me). I like Baby a lot, and respect Sea as a decent player, but who else?
I guess I should switch to KHAN, I like more players in KHAN than in T8, lol!
Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
March 13 2012 13:50 GMT
#1002
On March 13 2012 22:46 Ryo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2012 22:44 Hyde wrote:
On March 13 2012 22:41 letian wrote:
Well as you may all have seen, all what is needed for ANY team to get to playoffs are two STABLE players.

T8 had all the deck on its hands, why did Sea underperformed so horrendously, why Baby could not catch up with his momentum once again, and why JD did lose those unnecessary games? (but I would not put it all on JD, honestly)
Sea could have been that second "Stats" for T8 and we would join the fun in playoffs, fuck! JD OZ strikes again.

Honestly, I don't think they would last in the PO, they're already struggling with Bo5, I don't think they'd do any better in a Bo7 :/
On March 13 2012 22:43 Elroi wrote:
On March 13 2012 22:41 letian wrote:
Well as you may all have seen, all what is needed for ANY team to get to playoffs are two STABLE players.

T8 had all the deck on its hands, why did Sea underperformed so horrendously, why Baby could not catch up with his momentum once again, and why JD did lose those unnecessary games? (but I would not put it all on JD, honestly)
Sea could have been that second "Stats" for T8 and we would join the fun in playoffs, fuck! JD OZ strikes again.

It feels like I'm going through so much unnecessary pain (yes, pain) by being first a fan of OZ and then T8, I should just hop on the SKT or KT bandwagons. Atleast they can just buy their way through if something goes wrong.

-________-

Being in the POs is good for team morale, also good for sponsorship potential.

Yes, it's true that being in the PO is better than not being in the PO. I just don't think they would come out alive.
Because when you left, Brood War was all spotlights and titans. Now, with the death of the big leagues, Brood War has moved to the basements and carparks. Now, Brood War is unlicensed brawls, lost teeth, and bloody fights for fistfulls of money - SirJolt
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
March 13 2012 13:51 GMT
#1003
On March 13 2012 22:43 Elroi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2012 22:41 letian wrote:
Well as you may all have seen, all what is needed for ANY team to get to playoffs are two STABLE players.

T8 had all the deck on its hands, why did Sea underperformed so horrendously, why Baby could not catch up with his momentum once again, and why JD did lose those unnecessary games? (but I would not put it all on JD, honestly)
Sea could have been that second "Stats" for T8 and we would join the fun in playoffs, fuck! JD OZ strikes again.

It feels like I'm going through so much unnecessary pain (yes, pain) by being first a fan of OZ and then T8, I should just hop on the SKT or KT bandwagons. Atleast they can just buy their way through if something goes wrong.


The team you root for was literally patched together of the best players from 3 different teams put together into what was viewed as a "dream" team. When was the last time KT or SKT "bought" their way to a title? KT's won two in a row and the biggest contributor who isn't pure KT was...Action. With like 2 wins from last season's playoffs.
Remember Violet.
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-13 13:53:44
March 13 2012 13:51 GMT
#1004
On March 13 2012 22:50 letian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2012 22:43 Elroi wrote:
On March 13 2012 22:41 letian wrote:
Well as you may all have seen, all what is needed for ANY team to get to playoffs are two STABLE players.

T8 had all the deck on its hands, why did Sea underperformed so horrendously, why Baby could not catch up with his momentum once again, and why JD did lose those unnecessary games? (but I would not put it all on JD, honestly)
Sea could have been that second "Stats" for T8 and we would join the fun in playoffs, fuck! JD OZ strikes again.

It feels like I'm going through so much unnecessary pain (yes, pain) by being first a fan of OZ and then T8, I should just hop on the SKT or KT bandwagons. Atleast they can just buy their way through if something goes wrong.

yes, I thought that a lot too. In fact the only reason for us to like Oz and now T8 was JD (at least for me). I like Baby a lot, and respect Sea as a decent player, but who else?
I guess I should switch to KHAN, I like more player in KHAN than in T8, lol!


Jaehoon, Tyson and Killer are not respectable players ?

I am actually much more of a tyson fan because of that game where that hero dt mine drag in to a 5 marines and a tank killing them in an instant . My favourite protoss to root for in mbc game hero even though I am a kt fan . It was if I recall Baby v Tyson on fighting spirit ...
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
March 13 2012 13:53 GMT
#1005
On March 13 2012 22:51 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2012 22:43 Elroi wrote:
On March 13 2012 22:41 letian wrote:
Well as you may all have seen, all what is needed for ANY team to get to playoffs are two STABLE players.

T8 had all the deck on its hands, why did Sea underperformed so horrendously, why Baby could not catch up with his momentum once again, and why JD did lose those unnecessary games? (but I would not put it all on JD, honestly)
Sea could have been that second "Stats" for T8 and we would join the fun in playoffs, fuck! JD OZ strikes again.

It feels like I'm going through so much unnecessary pain (yes, pain) by being first a fan of OZ and then T8, I should just hop on the SKT or KT bandwagons. Atleast they can just buy their way through if something goes wrong.


The team you root for was literally patched together of the best players from 3 different teams put together into what was viewed as a "dream" team. When was the last time KT or SKT "bought" their way to a title? KT's won two in a row and the biggest contributor who isn't pure KT was...Action. With like 2 wins from last season's playoffs.

Crazy-hydra has contributed a fair bit to your team, especially this season.
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-13 13:56:14
March 13 2012 13:54 GMT
#1006
On March 13 2012 22:49 Sawamura wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2012 22:43 Elroi wrote:
On March 13 2012 22:41 letian wrote:
Well as you may all have seen, all what is needed for ANY team to get to playoffs are two STABLE players.

T8 had all the deck on its hands, why did Sea underperformed so horrendously, why Baby could not catch up with his momentum once again, and why JD did lose those unnecessary games? (but I would not put it all on JD, honestly)
Sea could have been that second "Stats" for T8 and we would join the fun in playoffs, fuck! JD OZ strikes again.

It feels like I'm going through so much unnecessary pain (yes, pain) by being first a fan of OZ and then T8, I should just hop on the SKT or KT bandwagons. Atleast they can just buy their way through if something goes wrong.


You are merely suggesting a what if scenario, many factors can play apart in to individuals of the team not performing well, the stress of the need to perform well to attract sponsors maybe apart of the problem that is causing them to falter in their performance and also new environment will also take time to adjust . If you are a true fan, you will stick to them even though they maybe feeling down and that's the only thing a fan can do in their power.

I always wondered, how ppl like and always do give advises in situations they have never been.
I have been a long time OZ fan and now T8, my fantasy team has Sea and Baby even, but I'm tired of constant disappointment, that cheering for them gives me, it seems like a neverending rain of grey days. Cheering for bottom feeders drains my energy so badly.
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
March 13 2012 13:56 GMT
#1007
whoa action beat sea too... i guess the question if it was more action playing good or sea choking D:
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
March 13 2012 13:59 GMT
#1008
On March 13 2012 22:51 Sawamura wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2012 22:50 letian wrote:
On March 13 2012 22:43 Elroi wrote:
On March 13 2012 22:41 letian wrote:
Well as you may all have seen, all what is needed for ANY team to get to playoffs are two STABLE players.

T8 had all the deck on its hands, why did Sea underperformed so horrendously, why Baby could not catch up with his momentum once again, and why JD did lose those unnecessary games? (but I would not put it all on JD, honestly)
Sea could have been that second "Stats" for T8 and we would join the fun in playoffs, fuck! JD OZ strikes again.

It feels like I'm going through so much unnecessary pain (yes, pain) by being first a fan of OZ and then T8, I should just hop on the SKT or KT bandwagons. Atleast they can just buy their way through if something goes wrong.

yes, I thought that a lot too. In fact the only reason for us to like Oz and now T8 was JD (at least for me). I like Baby a lot, and respect Sea as a decent player, but who else?
I guess I should switch to KHAN, I like more player in KHAN than in T8, lol!


Jaehoon, Tyson and Killer are not respectable players ?

I am actually much more of a tyson fan because of that game where that hero dt mine drag in to a 5 marines and a tank killing them in an instant . My favourite protoss to root for in mbc game hero even though I am a kt fan . It was if I recall Baby v Tyson on fighting spirit ...

I didn't say they were not decent, if I had to choose I would not choose them.
Its a matter of watching games, I do not watch all Tyson or Jaehoon games for obvious reasons. But very often do watch Sea or Baby
letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-13 14:02:16
March 13 2012 14:02 GMT
#1009
On March 13 2012 22:51 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2012 22:43 Elroi wrote:
On March 13 2012 22:41 letian wrote:
Well as you may all have seen, all what is needed for ANY team to get to playoffs are two STABLE players.

T8 had all the deck on its hands, why did Sea underperformed so horrendously, why Baby could not catch up with his momentum once again, and why JD did lose those unnecessary games? (but I would not put it all on JD, honestly)
Sea could have been that second "Stats" for T8 and we would join the fun in playoffs, fuck! JD OZ strikes again.

It feels like I'm going through so much unnecessary pain (yes, pain) by being first a fan of OZ and then T8, I should just hop on the SKT or KT bandwagons. Atleast they can just buy their way through if something goes wrong.


The team you root for was literally patched together of the best players from 3 different teams put together into what was viewed as a "dream" team. When was the last time KT or SKT "bought" their way to a title? KT's won two in a row and the biggest contributor who isn't pure KT was...Action. With like 2 wins from last season's playoffs.

this is a common overstatement on TL, I've never thought of T8 as a dream team. Dream team is Bisu, Flash, JD, Fantasy.
The truth is not far though, T8 could have been a solid middler.
Nikon
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bulgaria5710 Posts
March 13 2012 14:02 GMT
#1010
On March 13 2012 22:50 letian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2012 22:43 Elroi wrote:
On March 13 2012 22:41 letian wrote:
Well as you may all have seen, all what is needed for ANY team to get to playoffs are two STABLE players.

T8 had all the deck on its hands, why did Sea underperformed so horrendously, why Baby could not catch up with his momentum once again, and why JD did lose those unnecessary games? (but I would not put it all on JD, honestly)
Sea could have been that second "Stats" for T8 and we would join the fun in playoffs, fuck! JD OZ strikes again.

It feels like I'm going through so much unnecessary pain (yes, pain) by being first a fan of OZ and then T8, I should just hop on the SKT or KT bandwagons. Atleast they can just buy their way through if something goes wrong.

yes, I thought that a lot too. In fact the only reason for us to like Oz and now T8 was JD (at least for me). I like Baby a lot, and respect Sea as a decent player, but who else?
I guess I should switch to KHAN, I like more players in KHAN than in T8, lol!


Dunno, I used to like Hwaseung Oz in about its entirety, the state that Team 8 is in now is...
There's Jaedong and Killer, but the others haven't given me any reasons to like them more than I did when they played for their respective teams. Not to mention having run-ins with aggro MBC-Jaehoon fans T_T This shit is like an emotional rollercoaster that goes in 3 different directions at the same time.
Kleinmuuhg
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Vanuatu4091 Posts
March 13 2012 14:06 GMT
#1011
On March 13 2012 22:56 rabidch wrote:
whoa action beat sea too... i guess the question if it was more action playing good or sea choking D:

that was more action being good then sea being bad.
This is our town, scrub
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
March 13 2012 14:09 GMT
#1012
KT fans, please be understanding. Team 8 might disband any time due to lack of funds. You guys don't know the feeling of living at the edge of life and death.
2014 - ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ Raise your bows brood warriors! ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5599 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-13 14:16:19
March 13 2012 14:14 GMT
#1013
On March 13 2012 22:51 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2012 22:43 Elroi wrote:
On March 13 2012 22:41 letian wrote:
Well as you may all have seen, all what is needed for ANY team to get to playoffs are two STABLE players.

T8 had all the deck on its hands, why did Sea underperformed so horrendously, why Baby could not catch up with his momentum once again, and why JD did lose those unnecessary games? (but I would not put it all on JD, honestly)
Sea could have been that second "Stats" for T8 and we would join the fun in playoffs, fuck! JD OZ strikes again.

It feels like I'm going through so much unnecessary pain (yes, pain) by being first a fan of OZ and then T8, I should just hop on the SKT or KT bandwagons. Atleast they can just buy their way through if something goes wrong.


The team you root for was literally patched together of the best players from 3 different teams put together into what was viewed as a "dream" team. When was the last time KT or SKT "bought" their way to a title? KT's won two in a row and the biggest contributor who isn't pure KT was...Action. With like 2 wins from last season's playoffs.

I only said that they can do it, and they would if they performed badly. T8 doesn't even have a sponsor and can't afford practice partners..

Who did KT buy? What about Crazy-Hydra, Action, Mind. And just before that Luxury, ForGG etc...?

SKT didn't buy a lot, except some b-class zergs, but they bought this guy called Bisu from MBC...
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
March 13 2012 14:17 GMT
#1014
On March 13 2012 23:14 Elroi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2012 22:51 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On March 13 2012 22:43 Elroi wrote:
On March 13 2012 22:41 letian wrote:
Well as you may all have seen, all what is needed for ANY team to get to playoffs are two STABLE players.

T8 had all the deck on its hands, why did Sea underperformed so horrendously, why Baby could not catch up with his momentum once again, and why JD did lose those unnecessary games? (but I would not put it all on JD, honestly)
Sea could have been that second "Stats" for T8 and we would join the fun in playoffs, fuck! JD OZ strikes again.

It feels like I'm going through so much unnecessary pain (yes, pain) by being first a fan of OZ and then T8, I should just hop on the SKT or KT bandwagons. Atleast they can just buy their way through if something goes wrong.


The team you root for was literally patched together of the best players from 3 different teams put together into what was viewed as a "dream" team. When was the last time KT or SKT "bought" their way to a title? KT's won two in a row and the biggest contributor who isn't pure KT was...Action. With like 2 wins from last season's playoffs.

I only said that they can do it, and they would if they performed badly. T8 doesn't even have a sponsor and can't afford practice partners..

Who did KT buy? What about Crazy-Hydra, Action, Mind. And just before that Luxury, ForGG etc...?

SKT didn't buy a lot, except some b-class zergs, but they bought this guy called Bisu from MBC...


Not to mention PerfectMan and dare I say Flash himself!
2014 - ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ Raise your bows brood warriors! ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ
letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-13 14:26:07
March 13 2012 14:19 GMT
#1015
On March 13 2012 23:14 Elroi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2012 22:51 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On March 13 2012 22:43 Elroi wrote:
On March 13 2012 22:41 letian wrote:
Well as you may all have seen, all what is needed for ANY team to get to playoffs are two STABLE players.

T8 had all the deck on its hands, why did Sea underperformed so horrendously, why Baby could not catch up with his momentum once again, and why JD did lose those unnecessary games? (but I would not put it all on JD, honestly)
Sea could have been that second "Stats" for T8 and we would join the fun in playoffs, fuck! JD OZ strikes again.

It feels like I'm going through so much unnecessary pain (yes, pain) by being first a fan of OZ and then T8, I should just hop on the SKT or KT bandwagons. Atleast they can just buy their way through if something goes wrong.


The team you root for was literally patched together of the best players from 3 different teams put together into what was viewed as a "dream" team. When was the last time KT or SKT "bought" their way to a title? KT's won two in a row and the biggest contributor who isn't pure KT was...Action. With like 2 wins from last season's playoffs.

I only said that they can do it, and they would if they performed badly. T8 doesn't even have a sponsor and can't afford practice partners..

Who did KT buy? What about Crazy-Hydra, Action, Mind. And just before that Luxury, ForGG etc...?

SKT didn't buy a lot, except some b-class zergs, but they bought this guy called Bisu from MBC...

It doesn't matter who buys who, we've seen that even Bisu can slump.
It is something else, something that seems like a whole complex of reasons, it's difficult for me at least to guess why T8 is not in PO.
Remember when JD just was starting his career in OZ, JD + Anytime combo kicked asses, and there was their old coach.
Why this is not happening today? I still think that a coach has a lot to answer for.
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
March 13 2012 14:21 GMT
#1016
On March 13 2012 22:53 Ryo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2012 22:51 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On March 13 2012 22:43 Elroi wrote:
On March 13 2012 22:41 letian wrote:
Well as you may all have seen, all what is needed for ANY team to get to playoffs are two STABLE players.

T8 had all the deck on its hands, why did Sea underperformed so horrendously, why Baby could not catch up with his momentum once again, and why JD did lose those unnecessary games? (but I would not put it all on JD, honestly)
Sea could have been that second "Stats" for T8 and we would join the fun in playoffs, fuck! JD OZ strikes again.

It feels like I'm going through so much unnecessary pain (yes, pain) by being first a fan of OZ and then T8, I should just hop on the SKT or KT bandwagons. Atleast they can just buy their way through if something goes wrong.


The team you root for was literally patched together of the best players from 3 different teams put together into what was viewed as a "dream" team. When was the last time KT or SKT "bought" their way to a title? KT's won two in a row and the biggest contributor who isn't pure KT was...Action. With like 2 wins from last season's playoffs.

Crazy-hydra has contributed a fair bit to your team, especially this season.

His initial salary wasn't as big as actions afaik, afaik woongjin traded him the same way that kwanro went from cj to stars and then to SKT1
In the woods, there lurks..
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
March 13 2012 14:22 GMT
#1017
So if I get the message you are trying to convey to us kt fan's that is we have it easy just because we can buy players and hope to win ? Maybe you can say that is true if Luxury was still in KT and Forgg didn't retire from kt . Violet was also one of our home grown players who was one of the supporting cast that help kt win the play off and even Tempest was there to help us out this was of course before the transfer of Mind,Crazy Hydra.

BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
Gescom
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada3482 Posts
March 13 2012 14:23 GMT
#1018
*sigh*.. so close again T8.

Jaedong > Perfectman
Speed < Barracks
Killer > Hoejja
Sea < Action
Baby < Stats
Jaedong Hyuk || Bisu Jangbi || Fantasy Flash
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
March 13 2012 14:24 GMT
#1019
On March 13 2012 23:23 Gescom wrote:
*sigh*.. so close again T8.

Jaedong > Perfectman
Speed < Barracks
Killer > Hoejja
Sea < Action
Baby < Stats


No FlaSh? That's kinda weird IMO.
kiss kiss fall in love
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50584 Posts
March 13 2012 14:27 GMT
#1020
On March 13 2012 23:24 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2012 23:23 Gescom wrote:
*sigh*.. so close again T8.

Jaedong > Perfectman
Speed < Barracks
Killer > Hoejja
Sea < Action
Baby < Stats


No FlaSh? That's kinda weird IMO.


KT most BM for not playing Flash too.

his dad was in the studio, although Action's dad was in the studio too(yes the godfather himself) and action won.
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