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Baddieko
Profile Joined October 2008
Singapore855 Posts
March 13 2012 13:35 GMT
#981
On March 13 2012 22:29 o[twist] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2012 22:29 Baddieko wrote:
On March 13 2012 22:25 letian wrote:
On March 13 2012 22:24 yepenaxa wrote:
nice mental game by stats
how could baby lose that??

actually, he was never ahead)



He was way ahead. In PvT one mistake costs you. If Baby saw and EMP the arbiter he will win the game.


catching an arbiter with an emp is gosu. letting somebody recall is not a "mistake" per se.



its a mistake if there is science vessel close to the arbiter, able to close in and hit a high accuracy emp. He was distracted and didn't see it
o[twist]
Profile Joined May 2008
United States4903 Posts
March 13 2012 13:35 GMT
#982
On March 13 2012 22:32 SkelA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2012 22:30 letian wrote:
lol, ppl judging the advantage in PvT by limit count


Yea lol... Stats was on 5 bases for so long time then Baby killed 2 and Stats killed 3rd of Baby. Baby was never ahead maybe at best even because he had army but no expos and no mobility.


well, baby did seem ahead. like i said, if he had had good mine defense or enough turrets to actually kill the arbiter or had been lucky in some other way, i think he would have won. even bases is an advantage for T and he was dominant enough on the map that he was going to be able to be the next to expand. a little bit of thinking about recall defense would have gone a long way, but to say things like baby threw away the game because protoss has recall and it happened to work is just ridiculous.
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
March 13 2012 13:35 GMT
#983
On March 13 2012 22:31 Elroi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2012 22:26 Hyde wrote:
On March 13 2012 22:25 Ryo wrote:
Sigh. Jaehoon vs Stats would have been a better matchup.

Lousy day for me. No Flash, only one MBC player was fielded and he lost badly.

Hopefully they find a sponsor and do a lot better next season, if there is a next season.

Seriously they need better practice environment and more practice partners, to have a fantastic player like Sea play on that level is just incredibly bad for the entire scene. It is a miracle that Jaedong performes as well as he does.

They should buy proper beds or at least mattresses for the players. I know Koreans are used to sleeping on the floor but these players had well-furnished hostels in the past. Can't be easy living in a place with close to no furnishings.
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
March 13 2012 13:35 GMT
#984
Sea is in horrible mental form, in fact T8 appears to be good old JD Oz again, no matter who you put in there Sea, Baby? If Jaehoon looks reliable in comparison with the rest, what can you tell about the team perspectives? But that's an old and painful story.
Nice games today, gg
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-13 13:38:04
March 13 2012 13:36 GMT
#985
Poll: Recommend Set 3?

No (6)
 
100%

Yes (0)
 
0%

6 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Set 3?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No


Poll: Recommend Set 4?

Yes (9)
 
82%

No (2)
 
18%

11 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Set 4?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No


Poll: Recommend Set 5?

Yes (19)
 
95%

No (1)
 
5%

20 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Set 5?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No



(other 2 sets I already made polls.)
+ Show Spoiler [Results] +
Team 8 2-3 KT Rolster
(Z)Jaedong <Neo Chain Reaction> (P)PerfectMan
(T)Speed <Jade> (T)BarrackS
(Z)Killer <Neo Outlier> (Z)HoeJJa
(T)Sea <Ground Zero> (Z)Action
(T)BaBy <Sniper Ridge> (P)Stats
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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o[twist]
Profile Joined May 2008
United States4903 Posts
March 13 2012 13:37 GMT
#986
On March 13 2012 22:35 letian wrote:
Sea is in horrible mental form, in fact T8 appears to be good old JD Oz again, no matter who you put in there Sea, Baby? If Jaehoon looks reliable in comparison with the rest, what can you tell about the team perspectives? But that's an old and painful story.
Nice games today, gg


baby is so streaky, which hasn't helped the team. started out 4-0, then went 4-4, now closed it out 0-3.
Baddieko
Profile Joined October 2008
Singapore855 Posts
March 13 2012 13:37 GMT
#987
On March 13 2012 22:32 SkelA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2012 22:30 letian wrote:
lol, ppl judging the advantage in PvT by limit count


Yea lol... Stats was on 5 bases for so long time then Baby killed 2 and Stats killed 3rd of Baby. Baby was never ahead maybe at best even because he had army but no expos and no mobility.


Only 3 bases were mining though. He put down many nexus but didnt get to mine.
Sidders
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands41 Posts
March 13 2012 13:37 GMT
#988
So sad, no Flash
SlayerS/oGs fan - Former journalist for sites such as MYM/Cadred/LLL and TEK-9 - exCOD4 pro gamer
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
March 13 2012 13:39 GMT
#989
On March 13 2012 22:37 o[twist] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2012 22:35 letian wrote:
Sea is in horrible mental form, in fact T8 appears to be good old JD Oz again, no matter who you put in there Sea, Baby? If Jaehoon looks reliable in comparison with the rest, what can you tell about the team perspectives? But that's an old and painful story.
Nice games today, gg


baby is so streaky, which hasn't helped the team. started out 4-0, then went 4-4, now closed it out 0-3.

Kind of reflects the mental state of the whole team. Despite what Jaedong said in an interview, I still think the players are terribly low on confidence.
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
March 13 2012 13:41 GMT
#990
Well as you may all have seen, all what is needed for ANY team to get to playoffs are two STABLE players.

T8 had all the deck on its hands, why did Sea underperformed so horrendously, why Baby could not catch up with his momentum once again, and why JD did lose those unnecessary games? (but I would not put it all on JD, honestly)
Sea could have been that second "Stats" for T8 and we would join the fun in playoffs, fuck! JD OZ strikes again.
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5595 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-13 13:43:59
March 13 2012 13:43 GMT
#991
On March 13 2012 22:41 letian wrote:
Well as you may all have seen, all what is needed for ANY team to get to playoffs are two STABLE players.

T8 had all the deck on its hands, why did Sea underperformed so horrendously, why Baby could not catch up with his momentum once again, and why JD did lose those unnecessary games? (but I would not put it all on JD, honestly)
Sea could have been that second "Stats" for T8 and we would join the fun in playoffs, fuck! JD OZ strikes again.

It feels like I'm going through so much unnecessary pain (yes, pain) by being first a fan of OZ and then T8, I should just hop on the SKT or KT bandwagons. Atleast they can just buy their way through if something goes wrong.
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
dibban
Profile Joined July 2008
Sweden1279 Posts
March 13 2012 13:43 GMT
#992
Where's MoustacheZerg when you need him. OzSucksWithoutMe just ain't enough!
이제동 - 이영호 since '07.
Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-13 13:45:39
March 13 2012 13:44 GMT
#993
On March 13 2012 22:41 letian wrote:
Well as you may all have seen, all what is needed for ANY team to get to playoffs are two STABLE players.

T8 had all the deck on its hands, why did Sea underperformed so horrendously, why Baby could not catch up with his momentum once again, and why JD did lose those unnecessary games? (but I would not put it all on JD, honestly)
Sea could have been that second "Stats" for T8 and we would join the fun in playoffs, fuck! JD OZ strikes again.

Honestly, I don't think they would last in the PO, they're already struggling with Bo5, I don't think they'd do any better in a Bo7 :/
On March 13 2012 22:43 Elroi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2012 22:41 letian wrote:
Well as you may all have seen, all what is needed for ANY team to get to playoffs are two STABLE players.

T8 had all the deck on its hands, why did Sea underperformed so horrendously, why Baby could not catch up with his momentum once again, and why JD did lose those unnecessary games? (but I would not put it all on JD, honestly)
Sea could have been that second "Stats" for T8 and we would join the fun in playoffs, fuck! JD OZ strikes again.

It feels like I'm going through so much unnecessary pain (yes, pain) by being first a fan of OZ and then T8, I should just hop on the SKT or KT bandwagons. Atleast they can just buy their way through if something goes wrong.

-________-
Because when you left, Brood War was all spotlights and titans. Now, with the death of the big leagues, Brood War has moved to the basements and carparks. Now, Brood War is unlicensed brawls, lost teeth, and bloody fights for fistfulls of money - SirJolt
Sinedd
Profile Joined July 2008
Poland7052 Posts
March 13 2012 13:44 GMT
#994
someone created this thread and didnt even fill out the sections ?

nice..
T H C makes ppl happy
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
March 13 2012 13:44 GMT
#995
On March 13 2012 22:35 BLinD-RawR wrote:
KT is kinda BM for not sending Flash out when his dad is in the studio.


That noob would have just lost to a Protoss again anyway.
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
March 13 2012 13:46 GMT
#996
On March 13 2012 22:44 Hyde wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2012 22:41 letian wrote:
Well as you may all have seen, all what is needed for ANY team to get to playoffs are two STABLE players.

T8 had all the deck on its hands, why did Sea underperformed so horrendously, why Baby could not catch up with his momentum once again, and why JD did lose those unnecessary games? (but I would not put it all on JD, honestly)
Sea could have been that second "Stats" for T8 and we would join the fun in playoffs, fuck! JD OZ strikes again.

Honestly, I don't think they would last in the PO, they're already struggling with Bo5, I don't think they'd do any better in a Bo7 :/
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2012 22:43 Elroi wrote:
On March 13 2012 22:41 letian wrote:
Well as you may all have seen, all what is needed for ANY team to get to playoffs are two STABLE players.

T8 had all the deck on its hands, why did Sea underperformed so horrendously, why Baby could not catch up with his momentum once again, and why JD did lose those unnecessary games? (but I would not put it all on JD, honestly)
Sea could have been that second "Stats" for T8 and we would join the fun in playoffs, fuck! JD OZ strikes again.

It feels like I'm going through so much unnecessary pain (yes, pain) by being first a fan of OZ and then T8, I should just hop on the SKT or KT bandwagons. Atleast they can just buy their way through if something goes wrong.

-________-

Being in the POs is good for team morale, also good for sponsorship potential.
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-13 13:47:36
March 13 2012 13:46 GMT
#997
On March 13 2012 22:37 Baddieko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2012 22:32 SkelA wrote:
On March 13 2012 22:30 letian wrote:
lol, ppl judging the advantage in PvT by limit count


Yea lol... Stats was on 5 bases for so long time then Baby killed 2 and Stats killed 3rd of Baby. Baby was never ahead maybe at best even because he had army but no expos and no mobility.


Only 3 bases were mining though. He put down many nexus but didnt get to mine.

As Pro7ect did say in his stream, Baby HAD to do something FAST with his push, not just kill off two expos, but to disintegrate the production facilities of a toss, its hard to do with an army up the ramp shielded by arbiter and protecting the middle expo at the same time from all the possible directions. I'm not talking about 6 oclock, that Baby simply could not save technically. Stats is a good toss and being a good toss in that situation is recalling all your chit to terran base, crumpling his production and halting the push even further.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-13 13:48:24
March 13 2012 13:47 GMT
#998
On March 13 2012 22:43 Elroi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2012 22:41 letian wrote:
Well as you may all have seen, all what is needed for ANY team to get to playoffs are two STABLE players.

T8 had all the deck on its hands, why did Sea underperformed so horrendously, why Baby could not catch up with his momentum once again, and why JD did lose those unnecessary games? (but I would not put it all on JD, honestly)
Sea could have been that second "Stats" for T8 and we would join the fun in playoffs, fuck! JD OZ strikes again.

It feels like I'm going through so much unnecessary pain (yes, pain) by being first a fan of OZ and then T8, I should just hop on the SKT or KT bandwagons. Atleast they can just buy their way through if something goes wrong.

-__________-
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TL+ Member
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
March 13 2012 13:48 GMT
#999
Well I guess thats it then, I hope that T8 can get a sponsor but its not looking very good right now.
WriterXiao8~~
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
March 13 2012 13:49 GMT
#1000
On March 13 2012 22:43 Elroi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2012 22:41 letian wrote:
Well as you may all have seen, all what is needed for ANY team to get to playoffs are two STABLE players.

T8 had all the deck on its hands, why did Sea underperformed so horrendously, why Baby could not catch up with his momentum once again, and why JD did lose those unnecessary games? (but I would not put it all on JD, honestly)
Sea could have been that second "Stats" for T8 and we would join the fun in playoffs, fuck! JD OZ strikes again.

It feels like I'm going through so much unnecessary pain (yes, pain) by being first a fan of OZ and then T8, I should just hop on the SKT or KT bandwagons. Atleast they can just buy their way through if something goes wrong.


You are merely suggesting a what if scenario, many factors can play apart in to individuals of the team not performing well, the stress of the need to perform well to attract sponsors maybe apart of the problem that is causing them to falter in their performance and also new environment will also take time to adjust . If you are a true fan, you will stick to them even though they maybe feeling down and that's the only thing a fan can do in their power.
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
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