With today's win, Soo ended another perfect last round 6-0.
Q: So Soo, "the winner of the last round", you've been winning everything in the last rounds, both in this season and last season, what are your thoughts with today's win? A: It was a really important game so I'm happy to win in the last game.
Q: Any special hints or things you do differently to have such good results in the last round? Do you eat anything? A: Well the last round is what really puts money in your pockets, so i think I just get better with the situation.
Q: So you get a money-buff in the last rounds... What do you think'll happen if SKT started to give you incentives if you won in the first couple rounds? A: I think i'll have to think about it ^^
Q: You can take the lead with this game, any last words? A: Well it's crucial we win, so I think the team will all play well.
Q: You must have felt panicked when Jaehoon rushed in, froze a lot of your army and pushed all the way to your front expansion. A: Yeah I almost lost because I had so many vultures die before the engagement. So his zealots rolled over my tanks.
Q: You were really in a sticky situation but you somehow pulled out. A: Yeah, I think it was because of the tanks at 1 that destroyed the Nexus while Jaehoon was pushing out.
Q: The response to your two tanks are viral online. People are saying it was the crucial point that won you the game. A: Actually I had forgotten about them when Jaehoon pushed out. I think I might have won a whole lot less stressfully if I remembered them and pulled them out to defend [T/N really?] but it led to a better game that I left them there.
Q: 2nd round you have such a good record but you've never gotten the daily MVP this round yet. What are you thoughts? A: Yeah I felt really sad when i never won, but when I won, a different player would win or the team would lose
Q: Anything you want to say about your MVP... Do you think you'll win it today? A: I felt bad not winning it ever this season, I hope I'll get it today and bring the win for the home.
T8 already knocked Samsung out of #1 with a 3-0 sweep (while fielding ryul2) and 3-0'ed SKT last round. I wouldn't be surprised at all to see another clean sweep.
On March 10 2012 02:00 reincremate wrote: T8 already knocked Samsung out of #1 with a 3-0 sweep (while fielding ryul2) and 3-0'ed SKT last round. I wouldn't be surprised at all to see another clean sweep.
All SKT has to do is 3-0 to lock down first place. But no matter which team ends up first, they'll have one of the least dominant first place records ever in terms of W-L ratio.
Oh, and I want to see Fantasy TvP. Either Jaehoon or Tyson would be good.
I don't want a Jaedong vs Bisu game... They're my two favorite players and right now, honestly they both need a confidence boost... Hopefully Jaedong crushes Fantasy and Bisu wins his game in a long but awesome and good game!!!
What the heck.... SKT always gets sooo good at the end of the season... Soo with a 5W streak, Bisu 2, Best 2, and Fanta at 2 or something... crazy... momentum to carry all the way to gold!!!
On March 10 2012 12:14 GeLaar wrote: That was fast. I know T8 has might possibly deliver an upset, but what the hell were they thinking sending out rookies against SKT...
On March 10 2012 12:14 GeLaar wrote: That was fast. I know T8 has might possibly deliver an upset, but what the hell were they thinking sending out rookies against SKT...
Might as well give the rookies some game time. Its the first set as well.
On March 10 2012 12:14 GeLaar wrote: That was fast. I know T8 has might possibly deliver an upset, but what the hell were they thinking sending out rookies against SKT...
uh experience?
Well, sure, if they don't mind potentially getting 3-0'd and giving SKT first place. But after their performance vs. Khan, I thought they wanted to finish the season with some awesome matches.
Well whatever, what are you going to do? Soo was doing a great job of denying scouting. All that Sang got to see was that his 3rd hatch was at a 3rd base. Going robo before stargate basically was the nail in the coffin since his corsair didnt' get out in time to see what was happening.
On March 10 2012 12:17 Dental Floss wrote: Well whatever, what are you going to do? Soo was doing a great job of denying scouting. All that Sang got to see was that his 3rd hatch was at a 3rd base. Going robo before stargate basically was the nail in the coffin since his corsair didnt' get out in time to see what was happening.
Pull Probes before the cannons die is one possibility.
On March 10 2012 12:14 GeLaar wrote: That was fast. I know T8 has might possibly deliver an upset, but what the hell were they thinking sending out rookies against SKT...
uh experience?
Well, sure, if they don't mind potentially getting 3-0'd and giving SKT first place. But after their performance vs. Khan, I thought they wanted to finish the season with some awesome matches.
Waaah? Why's Bisu getting the Weekly MVP title?! I love the guy, but his performence has been shaky recently, whereas players like Soo had a really good record, and might need the boost of confidence more.
Soo : I Work so hard in killing scouting probes with my lings, and I made hydra's It's really easy actually to win versus a Protoss . Please look forward in the future in me making more hydras for an easy win . Thank you :D
On March 10 2012 12:22 Sawamura wrote: Soo : I Work so hard in killing scouting probes with my lings, and I made hydra's It's really easy actually to win versus a Protoss . Please look forward in the future in me making more hydras for an easy win . Thank you :D
On March 10 2012 12:14 GeLaar wrote: That was fast. I know T8 has might possibly deliver an upset, but what the hell were they thinking sending out rookies against SKT...
now that T8 is definitely out, levelling up the players makes sense. they are no longer on this season, but looking forward to the next. who knows once again they may find a gem like ryul2? the problem with t8 this season is their lineup is so predictable. with more rookies gaining experience, they will be a stronger team next season.
On March 10 2012 12:20 GeLaar wrote: Waaah? Why's Bisu getting the Weekly MVP title?! I love the guy, but his performence has been shaky recently, whereas players like Soo had a really good record, and might need the boost of confidence more.
In the last week, Bisu beat FBH in a relatively long game, and had an epic game vs Jangbi.
With today's win, Soo ended another perfect last round 6-0.
Q: So Soo, "the winner of the last round", you've been winning everything in the last rounds, both in this season and last season, what are your thoughts with today's win? A: It was a really important game so I'm happy to win in the last game.
Q: Any special hints or things you do differently to have such good results in the last round? Do you eat anything? A: Well the last round is what really puts money in your pockets, so i think I just get better with the situation.
Q: So you get a money-buff in the last rounds... What do you think'll happen if SKT started to give you incentives if you won in the first couple rounds? A: I think i'll have to think about it ^^
Q: You can take the lead with this game, any last words? A: Well it's crucial we win, so I think the team will all play well.
On March 10 2012 12:20 GeLaar wrote: Waaah? Why's Bisu getting the Weekly MVP title?! I love the guy, but his performence has been shaky recently, whereas players like Soo had a really good record, and might need the boost of confidence more.
In the last week, Bisu beat FBH in a relatively long game, and had an epic game vs Jangbi.
On March 10 2012 12:20 GeLaar wrote: Waaah? Why's Bisu getting the Weekly MVP title?! I love the guy, but his performence has been shaky recently, whereas players like Soo had a really good record, and might need the boost of confidence more.
In the last week, Bisu beat FBH in a relatively long game, and had an epic game vs Jangbi.
On March 10 2012 12:20 GeLaar wrote: Waaah? Why's Bisu getting the Weekly MVP title?! I love the guy, but his performence has been shaky recently, whereas players like Soo had a really good record, and might need the boost of confidence more.
In the last week, Bisu beat FBH in a relatively long game, and had an epic game vs Jangbi.
His losses came before this week.
his game vs FBH was really fucking sloppy
He won with carriers, so maybe thats why he got the MVP
Hehe commentators saying how it's kinda sad for Fanta that he didn't get the week MVP (he's never gotten it this season)... They're like, "he'd get it for sure if he beat Bisu... too bad they're on the same team.."
On March 10 2012 12:20 GeLaar wrote: Waaah? Why's Bisu getting the Weekly MVP title?! I love the guy, but his performence has been shaky recently, whereas players like Soo had a really good record, and might need the boost of confidence more.
In the last week, Bisu beat FBH in a relatively long game, and had an epic game vs Jangbi.
His losses came before this week.
Really?
FBH has almost casy like tvp.
40% winrate in that mu.
FBH true skills is in his TvZ and not TvP . If you want to watch a TvP master it has to be Flash or Fantasy.
On March 10 2012 12:27 Bisu-Fan wrote: Hehe commentators saying how it's kinda sad for Fanta that he didn't get the week MVP (he's never gotten it this season)... They're like, "he'd get it for sure if he beat Bisu... too bad they're on the same team.."
On March 10 2012 12:25 Torenhire wrote: Oooh, I F5 and now Zona is LRing, guess he's not watching basketball :p
Considering it's a matchup I wanted to see, it takes priority. =)
Fair enough, I was just about to start but you took over...I'd rather you do it anyways, I prefer to be an ignorant and slightly drunk spectator than caring about if they 9 pooled or not LOL
On March 10 2012 12:27 Bisu-Fan wrote: Hehe commentators saying how it's kinda sad for Fanta that he didn't get the week MVP (he's never gotten it this season)... They're like, "he'd get it for sure if he beat Bisu... too bad they're on the same team.."
On March 10 2012 12:20 GeLaar wrote: Waaah? Why's Bisu getting the Weekly MVP title?! I love the guy, but his performence has been shaky recently, whereas players like Soo had a really good record, and might need the boost of confidence more.
In the last week, Bisu beat FBH in a relatively long game, and had an epic game vs Jangbi.
His losses came before this week.
Really?
FBH has almost casy like tvp.
40% winrate in that mu.
u cant judge a player stats of 40 % when his tvp up till 1 year ago were 2 factory push ...thats it. fbh has changed his tvp drastically since moved to ace .
On March 10 2012 12:27 Bisu-Fan wrote: Hehe commentators saying how it's kinda sad for Fanta that he didn't get the week MVP (he's never gotten it this season)... They're like, "he'd get it for sure if he beat Bisu... too bad they're on the same team.."
On March 10 2012 12:20 GeLaar wrote: Waaah? Why's Bisu getting the Weekly MVP title?! I love the guy, but his performence has been shaky recently, whereas players like Soo had a really good record, and might need the boost of confidence more.
In the last week, Bisu beat FBH in a relatively long game, and had an epic game vs Jangbi.
His losses came before this week.
Really?
FBH has almost casy like tvp.
40% winrate in that mu.
u cant judge a player stats of 40 % when his tvp up till 2 years ago were 2 factory push ...thats it. fbh has changed his tvp drastically since moved to ace .
That game between Bisu and FBH was pretty cringeworthy though :/
On March 10 2012 12:20 GeLaar wrote: Waaah? Why's Bisu getting the Weekly MVP title?! I love the guy, but his performence has been shaky recently, whereas players like Soo had a really good record, and might need the boost of confidence more.
In the last week, Bisu beat FBH in a relatively long game, and had an epic game vs Jangbi.
His losses came before this week.
Really?
FBH has almost casy like tvp.
40% winrate in that mu.
u cant judge a player stats of 40 % when his tvp up till 2 years ago were 2 factory push ...thats it. fbh has changed his tvp drastically since moved to ace .
Are you saying he actually got better at tvp, his alltime weakest matchup after he moved to ace?
On March 10 2012 12:20 GeLaar wrote: Waaah? Why's Bisu getting the Weekly MVP title?! I love the guy, but his performence has been shaky recently, whereas players like Soo had a really good record, and might need the boost of confidence more.
In the last week, Bisu beat FBH in a relatively long game, and had an epic game vs Jangbi.
His losses came before this week.
Really?
FBH has almost casy like tvp.
40% winrate in that mu.
u cant judge a player stats of 40 % when his tvp up till 2 years ago were 2 factory push ...thats it. fbh has changed his tvp drastically since moved to ace .
Are you saying he actually got better at tvp, his alltime weakest matchup after he moved to ace?
He did. Very good vulture harass from fanta, got 4 probe kill I think, pretty big advantage :/
On March 10 2012 12:20 GeLaar wrote: Waaah? Why's Bisu getting the Weekly MVP title?! I love the guy, but his performence has been shaky recently, whereas players like Soo had a really good record, and might need the boost of confidence more.
In the last week, Bisu beat FBH in a relatively long game, and had an epic game vs Jangbi.
His losses came before this week.
Really?
FBH has almost casy like tvp.
40% winrate in that mu.
u cant judge a player stats of 40 % when his tvp up till 2 years ago were 2 factory push ...thats it. fbh has changed his tvp drastically since moved to ace .
Are you saying he actually got better at tvp, his alltime weakest matchup after he moved to ace?
It was a pretty noticeable change, maybe taking the pressure off helped
On March 10 2012 12:20 GeLaar wrote: Waaah? Why's Bisu getting the Weekly MVP title?! I love the guy, but his performence has been shaky recently, whereas players like Soo had a really good record, and might need the boost of confidence more.
In the last week, Bisu beat FBH in a relatively long game, and had an epic game vs Jangbi.
His losses came before this week.
Really?
FBH has almost casy like tvp.
40% winrate in that mu.
u cant judge a player stats of 40 % when his tvp up till 2 years ago were 2 factory push ...thats it. fbh has changed his tvp drastically since moved to ace .
Are you saying he actually got better at tvp, his alltime weakest matchup after he moved to ace?
It was a pretty noticeable change, maybe taking the pressure off helped
yeah i thought this was pretty much agreed upon that fbh has improved his tvp a LOT
On March 10 2012 12:20 GeLaar wrote: Waaah? Why's Bisu getting the Weekly MVP title?! I love the guy, but his performence has been shaky recently, whereas players like Soo had a really good record, and might need the boost of confidence more.
In the last week, Bisu beat FBH in a relatively long game, and had an epic game vs Jangbi.
His losses came before this week.
Really?
FBH has almost casy like tvp.
40% winrate in that mu.
u cant judge a player stats of 40 % when his tvp up till 2 years ago were 2 factory push ...thats it. fbh has changed his tvp drastically since moved to ace .
Are you saying he actually got better at tvp, his alltime weakest matchup after he moved to ace?
It was a pretty noticeable change, maybe taking the pressure off helped
I know he was focusing exclusively on tvp before he moved to ace and got a little better at it.
But it wasn't amazing, he's still pretty bad at it.
i started watching a little late - can someone describe to me what was special about jaehoon's build? i saw he had multiple shuttles, waited a while to get zeals... anything else?
Tank above Jaehoon's re-warping 4th sieges up - now mass vultures moving out - goons clear out that drop but once again Jaehoon transfers his probes into a vulture pack...
still, all vultures lost to the goons nearby
but more vultures finishing off the remnants of the probes lolz
Taking out the fourth saved Fantasy this game. Jaehoon would have been in an almost unloseable position if he had kept the fourth while expanded to his 5th.
Oh wow, 9 kill zealot on 6th, DT and zealot going rampage on 9th. Fantasy now gathering with 3 SCV but Jaehoon also only have 1rd up, which is being attacked by Terran deathball!
Such an epic game!!!! So happy I wathed it... On the end of my chair the whole time... I love BW... Only in BW can a game this back and forth happen... YES SKT!!!!
That was sad Jaehoon, with cleaner execution, you should have won the game easily. Those reavers fail were really bad, and you shouldn't lose an expo to two tanks. Good crisis management by Fanta though.
On March 10 2012 12:56 c3rberUs wrote: jaehoon almost had it there, but his macro faltered after fantasy's push.
Still, good game!
He didn't have resources actually he was only running on one base with saturated probes while the top right didn't have many probes in the first place . So he can't macro when he doesn't have enough resources ....
On March 10 2012 12:55 Xiphos wrote: Best PvT of the season.
Bogus vs Stats was better, jaehoon was too sloppy though it was entertaining
Agreed, but Jaehoon vs Fantasy a VERY close second....Jaehoon sloppy plays aside, you'd be lying if you said that wasn't an exciting TvP for a majority of the game
On March 10 2012 12:53 friendbg wrote: how did fantasy get back from this
He had so many mines which not only look bits of Jaehoons armry but also gave him time to move around the map, catching a ton of probes helped too
Jaehoon's critical mistake was pressing into Fantasy's natural when he successfully broke the huge tank line. If he sent the rest of his army to kill the CC at Fantasy's 3rd there is no way for Fantasy to come back. By going into his natural he traded the rest of his army for a few more tanks.
The game was so close because fantasy didn't scan to adapt his army composition. Jaehoon made a lots of zealots, while fanta was massing tanks. Had he produced 5 vultures instead of 3 tanks he would have rolled much faster because he did a lot of damage with vultures prior to first encounter.
I wondered if Jaehoon opted for a recall at the third would it have leaded to a better advantage for hoon ? Or Fanta would take it as an opportunity to roll in to jaehoon natural and lock it down . That game was really close.....
On March 10 2012 12:53 Jealous wrote: I think this justifies fantasy GG timing at least in this case
I don't know about that.
It's more like jaehoon macro << fantasy macro.
So much bad multitasking and aweful play by jaehoon in that game.
Probes needlessly got killed and reavers didn't have scarabs..I mean c'mon.
Wouldn't that be a justification for fantasy GG timing? You hope that your enemy makes a mistake? If you're saying that's what happened, then we agree imo ^^
On March 10 2012 12:53 Jealous wrote: I think this justifies fantasy GG timing at least in this case
I don't know about that.
It's more like jaehoon macro << fantasy macro.
So much bad multitasking and aweful play by jaehoon in that game.
Probes needlessly got killed and reavers didn't have scarabs..I mean c'mon.
Wouldn't that be a justification for fantasy GG timing? You hope that your enemy makes a mistake? If you're saying that's what happened, then we agree imo ^^
Although being a Zerg fan and have little to no interested in the warfare of other races, I have to admit that I am starting to fall in love with the Protoss vs Terran matchup. Unlike the bloody Zerg vs Terran or the tech battle of Protoss vs Zerg, PvT is all all about grinding armies together until one comes out victorious.
On March 10 2012 12:53 Jealous wrote: I think this justifies fantasy GG timing at least in this case
I don't know about that.
It's more like jaehoon macro << fantasy macro.
So much bad multitasking and aweful play by jaehoon in that game.
Probes needlessly got killed and reavers didn't have scarabs..I mean c'mon.
Jaehonn macro was top notch imho. His reaver micro/multitasking failed him. Fanatsy was never really behind in my opinion, but if Jaehoone had done a few more things right he would have been completely dead.
On March 10 2012 12:53 Jealous wrote: I think this justifies fantasy GG timing at least in this case
I don't know about that.
It's more like jaehoon macro << fantasy macro.
So much bad multitasking and aweful play by jaehoon in that game.
Probes needlessly got killed and reavers didn't have scarabs..I mean c'mon.
Wouldn't that be a justification for fantasy GG timing? You hope that your enemy makes a mistake? If you're saying that's what happened, then we agree imo ^^
On March 10 2012 13:03 Zona wrote: With this SF2 Proleague promo... it makes me ask, since when did SKT's SF2 team become so dominant?
When I paid attention they were worse than estro... (but that was like a few years ago?)
STX SF2 team best SF2 team <3
They're going to finish 3rd this season though, although their PO spot is already guaranteed. But yeah, the STX SF2 team is just about the only team with charisma.
On March 10 2012 13:05 Xiphos wrote: Although being a Zerg fan and have little to no interested in the warfare of other races, I have to admit that I am starting to fall in love with the Protoss vs Terran matchup. Unlike the bloody Zerg vs Terran or the tech battle of Protoss vs Zerg, PvT is all all about grinding armies together until one comes out victorious.
"Grinding armies together" sounds like sexy times.
Oh yeah, the date went really good we ended up grinding armies together.
On March 10 2012 12:53 Jealous wrote: I think this justifies fantasy GG timing at least in this case
I don't know about that.
It's more like jaehoon macro << fantasy macro.
So much bad multitasking and aweful play by jaehoon in that game.
Probes needlessly got killed and reavers didn't have scarabs..I mean c'mon.
Jaehonn macro was top notch imho. His reaver micro/multitasking failed him. Fanatsy was never really behind in my opinion, but if Jaehoone had done a few more things right he would have been completely dead.
How do you figure? o.O
He should have had enough gateways/reinforcements to take the match after he killed so many tanks.
But he didn't and suddenly fantasy had more units than him.
On March 10 2012 12:53 Jealous wrote: I think this justifies fantasy GG timing at least in this case
I don't know about that.
It's more like jaehoon macro << fantasy macro.
So much bad multitasking and aweful play by jaehoon in that game.
Probes needlessly got killed and reavers didn't have scarabs..I mean c'mon.
Jaehonn macro was top notch imho. His reaver micro/multitasking failed him. Fanatsy was never really behind in my opinion, but if Jaehoone had done a few more things right he would have been completely dead.
Don't agree with that Jaehoon bashing. He was behind from the beginning after Fantas brilliant vulture bait and then played a straight up macro game vs. the best (sans Flash) TvPer in the world and almost won.
Q: You must have felt panicked when Jaehoon rushed in, froze a lot of your army and pushed all the way to your front expansion. A: Yeah I almost lost because I had so many vultures die before the engagement. So his zealots rolled over my tanks.
Q: You were really in a sticky situation but you somehow pulled out. A: Yeah, I think it was because of the tanks at 1 that destroyed the Nexus while Jaehoon was pushing out.
Q: The response to your two tanks are viral online. People are saying it was the crucial point that won you the game. A: Actually I had forgotten about them when Jaehoon pushed out. I think I might have won a whole lot less stressfully if I remembered them and pulled them out to defend [T/N really?] but it led to a better game that I left them there.
Q: 2nd round you have such a good record but you've never gotten the daily MVP this round yet. What are you thoughts? A: Yeah I felt really sad when i never won, but when I won, a different player would win or the team would lose
Q: Anything you want to say about your MVP... Do you think you'll win it today? A: I felt bad not winning it ever this season, I hope I'll get it today and bring the win for the home.
On March 10 2012 12:53 Jealous wrote: I think this justifies fantasy GG timing at least in this case
I don't know about that.
It's more like jaehoon macro << fantasy macro.
So much bad multitasking and aweful play by jaehoon in that game.
Probes needlessly got killed and reavers didn't have scarabs..I mean c'mon.
Jaehonn macro was top notch imho. His reaver micro/multitasking failed him. Fanatsy was never really behind in my opinion, but if Jaehoone had done a few more things right he would have been completely dead.
Don't agree with that Jaehoon bashing. He was behind from the beginning after Fantas brilliant vulture bait and then played a straight up macro game vs. the best (sans Flash) TvPer in the world and almost won.
He did a lot of thing right in that game, but that reaver control is unexcusable. Its just nerves really, he's a damn good player.
Wow... why so many tosses from T8... what's coach thinking??? I mean you have Ty, Sea, Jaedong, and Killer who were sooo hyped at the beginning of the season!!! Maybe for a Bisu snipe???
On March 10 2012 12:53 Jealous wrote: I think this justifies fantasy GG timing at least in this case
I don't know about that.
It's more like jaehoon macro << fantasy macro.
So much bad multitasking and aweful play by jaehoon in that game.
Probes needlessly got killed and reavers didn't have scarabs..I mean c'mon.
Jaehonn macro was top notch imho. His reaver micro/multitasking failed him. Fanatsy was never really behind in my opinion, but if Jaehoone had done a few more things right he would have been completely dead.
How do you figure? o.O
He should have had enough gateways/reinforcements to take the match after he killed so many tanks.
But he didn't and suddenly fantasy had more units than him.
sloppy sloppy sloppy
Did you just completely missed Fantasy's drop on the cliff of right corner? That killed an expansion. Without the incomes, he doesn't have the requirement to produce. It was more of Fantasy's ingenuity than Failhoon taking place.
On March 10 2012 12:53 Jealous wrote: I think this justifies fantasy GG timing at least in this case
I don't know about that.
It's more like jaehoon macro << fantasy macro.
So much bad multitasking and aweful play by jaehoon in that game.
Probes needlessly got killed and reavers didn't have scarabs..I mean c'mon.
Jaehonn macro was top notch imho. His reaver micro/multitasking failed him. Fanatsy was never really behind in my opinion, but if Jaehoone had done a few more things right he would have been completely dead.
How do you figure? o.O
He should have had enough gateways/reinforcements to take the match after he killed so many tanks.
But he didn't and suddenly fantasy had more units than him.
sloppy sloppy sloppy
Did you just completely missed Fantasy's drop on the cliff of right corner? That killed an expansion. Without the incomes, he doesn't have the requirement to produce. It was more of Fantasy's ingenuity than Failhoon taking place.
On March 10 2012 12:53 Jealous wrote: I think this justifies fantasy GG timing at least in this case
I don't know about that.
It's more like jaehoon macro << fantasy macro.
So much bad multitasking and aweful play by jaehoon in that game.
Probes needlessly got killed and reavers didn't have scarabs..I mean c'mon.
Jaehonn macro was top notch imho. His reaver micro/multitasking failed him. Fanatsy was never really behind in my opinion, but if Jaehoone had done a few more things right he would have been completely dead.
How do you figure? o.O
He should have had enough gateways/reinforcements to take the match after he killed so many tanks.
But he didn't and suddenly fantasy had more units than him.
sloppy sloppy sloppy
Did you just completely missed Fantasy's drop on the cliff of right corner? That killed an expansion. Without the incomes, he doesn't have the requirement to produce. It was more of Fantasy's ingenuity than Failhoon taking place.
Yes those two siege tank on top of the ramp made a lot of difference ..... especially probes can't do much against tank in that kind of position.
Tyson has obs scouting around Best's main Scouts the shuttle loading up the reaver 2 more gates for Tyson being added, 4 total Best moving his goons towards Tyson's nat Shuttle and reaver slightly ahead and take some shots from Best's goons But both players pull back
Best pulled all the way back to his nat, in a defensive position Second reaver out for Best Citadel up for Tyson, also archives Best's citadel still coming up, forge for him also
2 more gates being added for Tyson, 6 total 6 total for Best also Tyson moving out his army towards Best Best with his army split somewhat Two reavers of Tyson weaken a number of goons
Both players about to meet mid map Archons and HT in the mix for Tyson Only archons for Best 169-166 Best-Tyson Best going to push into the 9 oclock! Tyson's reavers both die immediately Tyson not storming!
Tyson's army is crushed, and the 9 oclock is open Best is smiling, drops two reavers and they kill about 20 kills at Tyson's nat Tyson down to 42 supply, and falling Huge train of zealots frmo Best running into Tyson's main 154-30 GG from Tyson SKT 3-0 T8 + Show Spoiler +
On March 10 2012 13:22 okum wrote: Distressingly bad showing by T8. Best macrolls invincibly. But must he always do that stupid smirk when he or anyone on his team wins a game...
It was not Best macro, it was Tyson stupid positionating. His zeas were back, his reavers were out of the shuttle in front, his goons were versus the zeas, no a single storm was done. He fucked everything. Too bad for T8 :c
Holy shit, what a fight! Equal armies, with Best having no Templars. A few seconds of chaos, and then all of Best's Zealots connect with Tyson's Dragoons! From 160-160 to 130 vs 65 population within the span of 15 seconds... breath-taking.
On March 10 2012 13:23 GeLaar wrote: Holy shit, what a fight! Equal armies, with Best having no Templars. A few seconds of chaos, and then all of Best's Zealots connect with Tyson's Dragoons! From 160-160 to 130 vs 65 population within the span of 15 seconds... breath-taking.
lol more like Tyson lost the game with horrible reaver control and not researching storms.
On March 10 2012 13:23 GeLaar wrote: Holy shit, what a fight! Equal armies, with Best having no Templars. A few seconds of chaos, and then all of Best's Zealots connect with Tyson's Dragoons! From 160-160 to 130 vs 65 population within the span of 15 seconds... breath-taking.
It's hard to tell whether you're serious. Did you not see the reavers getting gang-banged by zealots and Tyson moving his army back without attacking?
Yeah I honestly though tyson's templars were going to murder there, but blahh
On March 10 2012 13:25 konadora wrote: SK TELECOM T1 STRAIGHT IN FINALS AND I'LL BE THERE FOR THE FIRST TIME TO WATCH IT LIVE IN 7 YEARS :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
On March 10 2012 13:24 PineappleLumpsToss wrote: Beautiful engagement from BeSt. I haven't seen two reavers (not in a shuttle) disappear that quickly in a while.
That happens when you look like you're purposefully dropping reavers on top of zealots. Tyson's positioning was hilariously bad, Best's macro still as good as ever though.
On March 10 2012 13:25 Taekwon wrote: lol imagining how awkward taking that banner back home wouldve been if t1 lost
Well after every grand finals there's boxes of "We're the champion" shirts and caps that have to disappear without a trace as the other team breaks out THEIR shirts and caps.
Macro was not the issue here. Tyson was going for a faster tech, so he cut units in comparison to Best. The problem was forgetting storm (which he clearly intended to use), and pretty much epicly fucking up his positioning and micro
On March 10 2012 13:25 Taekwon wrote: lol imagining how awkward taking that banner back home wouldve been if t1 lost
Well after every grand finals there's boxes of "We're the champion" shirts and caps that have to disappear without a trace as the other team breaks out THEIR shirts and caps.
On March 10 2012 13:25 Taekwon wrote: lol imagining how awkward taking that banner back home wouldve been if t1 lost
Well after every grand finals there's boxes of "We're the champion" shirts and caps that have to disappear without a trace as the other team breaks out THEIR shirts and caps.
That's pretty much a general final's tradition for any sport though.
The only units doing damage for Tyson during the battle were his goons. He forgot his zealots in the back. Then when he realized that he moved-commanded them into scarabs and archons. His reavers didnt fire a single scarab and his ht's didn't storm.
On March 10 2012 13:25 Taekwon wrote: lol imagining how awkward taking that banner back home wouldve been if t1 lost
Well after every grand finals there's boxes of "We're the champion" shirts and caps that have to disappear without a trace as the other team breaks out THEIR shirts and caps.
That's pretty much a general final's tradition for any sport though.
Sure. It was just a comment on your comment about having to take that prepared banner home if they didn't win 3-0.
Congrats to SKT (and fans) on the first place. It was well deserved. CJ, KT and Khan all looked strong for brief periods of the season, but SKT came out looking most solid and consistent in the end.
On March 10 2012 13:28 pylonsalad wrote: The only units doing damage for Tyson during the battle were his goons. He forgot his zealots in the back. Then when he realized that he moved-commanded them into scarabs and archons. His reavers didnt fire a single scarab and his ht's didn't storm.
Best is good at picking moments like that to attack, though.
On March 10 2012 13:28 pylonsalad wrote: The only units doing damage for Tyson during the battle were his goons. He forgot his zealots in the back. Then when he realized that he moved-commanded them into scarabs and archons. His reavers didnt fire a single scarab and his ht's didn't storm.
Best is good at picking moments like that to attack, though.
Agreed. It was his decision to finally move over to the other side of the map even though he wanted to a few times prior to that final attack. He caught Tyson with his pants down.
On March 10 2012 13:25 Taekwon wrote: lol imagining how awkward taking that banner back home wouldve been if t1 lost
Well after every grand finals there's boxes of "We're the champion" shirts and caps that have to disappear without a trace as the other team breaks out THEIR shirts and caps.
That's pretty much a general final's tradition for any sport though.
Sure. It was just a comment on your comment about having to take that prepared banner home if they didn't win 3-0.
On March 10 2012 13:31 PineappleLumpsToss wrote: Thanks for the thread and the streams.
Weird season for SKT, but I guess we came right when it mattered. Now we just need to hold our form for the GF.
My pleasure!
Once again, thank you everyone for posting and joining me in the celebrations! I always bring good karma to live matches it seems (viewing or threading)..
Come to think of it, it would actually have been more exciting if SKT had lost exactly one game. First, because we'd probably have gotten Bisu vs Jaedong, but more importantly because it would have forced KT to go 3-0 twice in order to steal the first spot.
Oh wow that 3-0 ! I just got up, read the PL recap and saw :
Good news for the fans of SKT in the form of a guaranteed playoff spot, and if they can best Team 8 three zero this week they will be ensured the coveted first place that they managed to achieve last season.
Then I jumped on the results here... fuck yeah ! See you on April 7th SKT T1 !
On March 10 2012 16:26 Galtakar wrote: Going there to see them play live with a hangover the size of an elephant was not worth it.
Even worse to come back home and realize that the KT vs ACE game was something I SHOULD have watched.
Sad day
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Some people don't appreciate what they have...
Oh I do. But I've gotten used quite hard to it so. And especially since I was forced to go back home, missing out on ACE.
(+ being a T8 fan kind of breaks your heart to see them lose so hard).
On another notice, I met the players when I was searching for a restaurant with my friend. We sadly just stood and pointed and couldn't bring up the courage to ask for a pic.
Especially Sea. He downright stared at me when he walked by.
That's still not 1½. In fact, it can go quite faster than 1 hour if there's only a few people on the subway (which it was). And its not exactly wasted either so...
holy shit how did fanta won that 2nd game !!! wow..
Honestly Jaehoon helped him a lot to win. But the more awful game was the third, wth reavers doing nothing and high templars without storms are lets say not so effective -.- should at least make an archon out of them.
Bad luck... Soo just no skilled his way to another zvp win. I hate Soo more and more for every game. Jaehoon droped the ball against Fanta when he had the game won, twice. You have to be more lucky to win against SKT. I'm not even mad.
Hmm not a good idea to thank Bisu-fan for the translation.. it's kind of obvious who won. Like when I saw Okum or Blind-rawr being super happy about the KT vods being up fast, thanking the guy who loaded them up.. I just know who won before seing the game. I know how hard it is to avoid those kinds of spolers though.
Nice way to spoil my mood after glancing that KT lost to ace, and having SKT secure 1st place. I hope to hell that SKT gets schooled by any team that enters the finals, preferably not KT
On March 10 2012 21:54 Elroi wrote: Bad luck... Soo just no skilled his way to another zvp win. I hate Soo more and more for every game. Jaehoon droped the ball against Fanta when he had the game won, twice. You have to be more lucky to win against SKT. I'm not even mad.
Hmm not a good idea to thank Bisu-fan for the translation.. it's kind of obvious who won. Like when I saw Okum or Blind-rawr being super happy about the KT vods being up fast, thanking the guy who loaded them up.. I just know who won before seing the game. I know how hard it is to avoid those kinds of spolers though.
He was going to do all the translations regardless, and I made an entire MS Paint banner for it, kinda indicates that it was pre-planned no? Therefore I think no cognizance of results can be justifiably asserted.
On March 10 2012 21:54 Elroi wrote: Bad luck... Soo just no skilled his way to another zvp win. I hate Soo more and more for every game. Jaehoon droped the ball against Fanta when he had the game won, twice. You have to be more lucky to win against SKT. I'm not even mad.
Hmm not a good idea to thank Bisu-fan for the translation.. it's kind of obvious who won. Like when I saw Okum or Blind-rawr being super happy about the KT vods being up fast, thanking the guy who loaded them up.. I just know who won before seing the game. I know how hard it is to avoid those kinds of spolers though.
He was going to do all the translations regardless, and I made an entire MS Paint banner for it, kinda indicates that it was pre-planned no? Therefore I think no cognizance of results can be justifiably asserted.
You are right.. It's just my head playing tricks on me then
So, KT lost to ace (bonus Flash lost to reaver again) and SKT won 3-0. Must be happiest day of my life! I actually stopped watching these games live due having paranoid of SKT losing everytime I do that, and going to keep it. This is just too good to be true
On March 10 2012 17:07 Lucumo wrote: Seriously, what was up with that line-up. Coach is biased, wanted SKT to win :<
He didn't seem biased at all when his team 3-0ed SKT in round 2, with Jaehoon and Tyson winning their games.
He probably didn't expect them to win.
Seeing as how Team 8 had no chance to qualify anymore, I don't think it's a bad decision to let a rookie, Sang, play his first match of the season. Also, Tyson won Bisu in thier last encounter, so sending him out when both Best and Bisu were still to come is not a bad decision; it's not the fault of the coach that Tyson engaged horribly.
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