I wonder if you thinks the same when you are not on the receiving end of these stuff :3
honestly, I don't, maybe one yong taek joke but thats it.
You must be kidding, right? You're one of the most prolific anti-Bisu anti-SKT pro-Flash pro-KT posters there is, period. Don't dish it out if you can't take it, it's hypocritical.
Also, who is insulting you? Basking in the despair of another is not an insult, I'm sure that's the way you feel when you say SKT/BISU TEARS/HE MADE BISU CRY whatever.
You're right, it's not an insult, it's socio-psychopathic (specifically, schadenfreude) and you need to see a psychologist if you don't understand how it makes other people feel. If you do understand it but still choose to do it then you aren't making logical decisions and should accept the consequences.
this thread reads like teenagers who have never watched or been a part of any kind of sport before. LOL at gloating = sociopsychopathy
Rather or not /how you personally identify the severity of issues has nothing to do with the nature of the actual issues. You can exhibit behaviours that are sociopathic / psychopathic in minor ways, that doesn't change the nature of it. Obviously the repercussions / how severe the consequences are to yourself / other people range greatly, I'm just making the point that you need to understand what you are doing. Being an ass to someone online that you have no personal stake in / probably will never see isn't different at all from being an ass to someone who's a close family friend in the nature of choosing to be an asshole, the only difference is one forces you to deal with the consequences.
I wonder if you thinks the same when you are not on the receiving end of these stuff :3
honestly, I don't, maybe one yong taek joke but thats it.
You must be kidding, right? You're one of the most prolific anti-Bisu anti-SKT pro-Flash pro-KT posters there is, period. Don't dish it out if you can't take it, it's hypocritical.
Also, who is insulting you? Basking in the despair of another is not an insult, I'm sure that's the way you feel when you say SKT/BISU TEARS/HE MADE BISU CRY whatever.
You're right, it's not an insult, it's socio-psychopathic (specifically, schadenfreude) and you need to see a psychologist if you don't understand how it makes other people feel. If you do understand it but still choose to do it then you aren't making logical decisions and should accept the consequences.
this thread reads like teenagers who have never watched or been a part of any kind of sport before. LOL at gloating = sociopsychopathy
Rather or not /how you personally identify the severity of issues has nothing to do with the nature of the actual issues. You can exhibit behaviours that are sociopathic / psychopathic in minor ways, that doesn't change the nature of it. Obviously the repercussions / how severe the consequences are to yourself / other people range greatly, I'm just making the point that you need to understand what you are doing. Being an ass to someone online that you have no personal stake in / probably will never see isn't different at all from being an ass to someone who's a close family friend in the nature of choosing to be an asshole, the only difference is one forces you to deal with the consequences.
You know, that is really great advice. I suggest you offer it to these people:
I wonder if you thinks the same when you are not on the receiving end of these stuff :3
honestly, I don't, maybe one yong taek joke but thats it.
You must be kidding, right? You're one of the most prolific anti-Bisu anti-SKT pro-Flash pro-KT posters there is, period. Don't dish it out if you can't take it, it's hypocritical.
Also, who is insulting you? Basking in the despair of another is not an insult, I'm sure that's the way you feel when you say SKT/BISU TEARS/HE MADE BISU CRY whatever.
You're right, it's not an insult, it's socio-psychopathic (specifically, schadenfreude) and you need to see a psychologist if you don't understand how it makes other people feel. If you do understand it but still choose to do it then you aren't making logical decisions and should accept the consequences.
this thread reads like teenagers who have never watched or been a part of any kind of sport before. LOL at gloating = sociopsychopathy
Rather or not /how you personally identify the severity of issues has nothing to do with the nature of the actual issues. You can exhibit behaviours that are sociopathic / psychopathic in minor ways, that doesn't change the nature of it. Obviously the repercussions / how severe the consequences are to yourself / other people range greatly, I'm just making the point that you need to understand what you are doing. Being an ass to someone online that you have no personal stake in / probably will never see isn't different at all from being an ass to someone who's a close family friend in the nature of choosing to be an asshole, the only difference is one forces you to deal with the consequences.
You know, that is really great advice. I suggest you offer it to these people:
You do realize I haven't defended either parties (be it fan or anti-fan) nor am I partaking in these activities right. I'm just making general statements for both sides. Text book ad hominem attacks don't help your own case. I would say the same thing to <insert team, organization, ethnicity, class, gender, etc> fan.
On March 04 2012 16:25 Hyde wrote: [quote] nom nom nom :D
:/
people get upset when they are insulted.
I wonder if you thinks the same when you are not on the receiving end of these stuff :3
honestly, I don't, maybe one yong taek joke but thats it.
You must be kidding, right? You're one of the most prolific anti-Bisu anti-SKT pro-Flash pro-KT posters there is, period. Don't dish it out if you can't take it, it's hypocritical.
Also, who is insulting you? Basking in the despair of another is not an insult, I'm sure that's the way you feel when you say SKT/BISU TEARS/HE MADE BISU CRY whatever.
You're right, it's not an insult, it's socio-psychopathic (specifically, schadenfreude) and you need to see a psychologist if you don't understand how it makes other people feel. If you do understand it but still choose to do it then you aren't making logical decisions and should accept the consequences.
this thread reads like teenagers who have never watched or been a part of any kind of sport before. LOL at gloating = sociopsychopathy
Rather or not /how you personally identify the severity of issues has nothing to do with the nature of the actual issues. You can exhibit behaviours that are sociopathic / psychopathic in minor ways, that doesn't change the nature of it. Obviously the repercussions / how severe the consequences are to yourself / other people range greatly, I'm just making the point that you need to understand what you are doing. Being an ass to someone online that you have no personal stake in / probably will never see isn't different at all from being an ass to someone who's a close family friend in the nature of choosing to be an asshole, the only difference is one forces you to deal with the consequences.
You know, that is really great advice. I suggest you offer it to these people:
You do realize I haven't defended either parties (be it fan or anti-fan) nor am I partaking in these activities right. I'm just making general statements for both sides. Text book ad hominem attacks don't help your own case. I would say the same thing to <insert team, organization, ethnicity, class, gender, etc> fan.
Conveniently right after a KT's loss, were these awesome standards on vacation in the other occasions (some of which were quoted by Kiett)?
Seriously, your team-tag is spoiling your (hehe, hopefully) good intentions. I suggest you wait until after a KT win, their fans do their usual things, if you dump these stuff on them then, it's gonna make a lot more people take you seriously. You have to time your moral attacks better man.
On March 04 2012 16:25 Hyde wrote: [quote] nom nom nom :D
:/
people get upset when they are insulted.
I wonder if you thinks the same when you are not on the receiving end of these stuff :3
honestly, I don't, maybe one yong taek joke but thats it.
You must be kidding, right? You're one of the most prolific anti-Bisu anti-SKT pro-Flash pro-KT posters there is, period. Don't dish it out if you can't take it, it's hypocritical.
Also, who is insulting you? Basking in the despair of another is not an insult, I'm sure that's the way you feel when you say SKT/BISU TEARS/HE MADE BISU CRY whatever.
You're right, it's not an insult, it's socio-psychopathic (specifically, schadenfreude) and you need to see a psychologist if you don't understand how it makes other people feel. If you do understand it but still choose to do it then you aren't making logical decisions and should accept the consequences.
this thread reads like teenagers who have never watched or been a part of any kind of sport before. LOL at gloating = sociopsychopathy
Rather or not /how you personally identify the severity of issues has nothing to do with the nature of the actual issues. You can exhibit behaviours that are sociopathic / psychopathic in minor ways, that doesn't change the nature of it. Obviously the repercussions / how severe the consequences are to yourself / other people range greatly, I'm just making the point that you need to understand what you are doing. Being an ass to someone online that you have no personal stake in / probably will never see isn't different at all from being an ass to someone who's a close family friend in the nature of choosing to be an asshole, the only difference is one forces you to deal with the consequences.
You know, that is really great advice. I suggest you offer it to these people:
You do realize I haven't defended either parties (be it fan or anti-fan) nor am I partaking in these activities right. I'm just making general statements for both sides. Text book ad hominem attacks don't help your own case. I would say the same thing to <insert team, organization, ethnicity, class, gender, etc> fan.
Maybe so. But I didn't see you offering your lovely sentiments at these same people when we were the ones being attacked. You chose this specific time (KT fans at the receiving end) to come in and launch your spiel at a specific person (an SKT fan who was merely returning the favor from the last game). That may well be a coincidence, but forgive me if I refrain from giving you the benefit of the doubt.
On that note, lighten up. If I shed a tear for every time an antifan gloated, I'd be a dry husk already. It's the internet, people gloat, don't take it seriously, and get over it.
I wonder if you thinks the same when you are not on the receiving end of these stuff :3
honestly, I don't, maybe one yong taek joke but thats it.
You must be kidding, right? You're one of the most prolific anti-Bisu anti-SKT pro-Flash pro-KT posters there is, period. Don't dish it out if you can't take it, it's hypocritical.
Also, who is insulting you? Basking in the despair of another is not an insult, I'm sure that's the way you feel when you say SKT/BISU TEARS/HE MADE BISU CRY whatever.
You're right, it's not an insult, it's socio-psychopathic (specifically, schadenfreude) and you need to see a psychologist if you don't understand how it makes other people feel. If you do understand it but still choose to do it then you aren't making logical decisions and should accept the consequences.
I actually didn't say anything besides call Blind-Rawr on his hypocrisy, I think going around saying "xxx tears" is a dick move and pathetic as well, not much different from yong-taeking at every opportunity.
I wonder if you thinks the same when you are not on the receiving end of these stuff :3
honestly, I don't, maybe one yong taek joke but thats it.
You must be kidding, right? You're one of the most prolific anti-Bisu anti-SKT pro-Flash pro-KT posters there is, period. Don't dish it out if you can't take it, it's hypocritical.
Also, who is insulting you? Basking in the despair of another is not an insult, I'm sure that's the way you feel when you say SKT/BISU TEARS/HE MADE BISU CRY whatever.
You're right, it's not an insult, it's socio-psychopathic (specifically, schadenfreude) and you need to see a psychologist if you don't understand how it makes other people feel. If you do understand it but still choose to do it then you aren't making logical decisions and should accept the consequences.
this thread reads like teenagers who have never watched or been a part of any kind of sport before. LOL at gloating = sociopsychopathy
Rather or not /how you personally identify the severity of issues has nothing to do with the nature of the actual issues. You can exhibit behaviours that are sociopathic / psychopathic in minor ways, that doesn't change the nature of it. Obviously the repercussions / how severe the consequences are to yourself / other people range greatly, I'm just making the point that you need to understand what you are doing. Being an ass to someone online that you have no personal stake in / probably will never see isn't different at all from being an ass to someone who's a close family friend in the nature of choosing to be an asshole, the only difference is one forces you to deal with the consequences.
You know, that is really great advice. I suggest you offer it to these people:
You do realize I haven't defended either parties (be it fan or anti-fan) nor am I partaking in these activities right. I'm just making general statements for both sides. Text book ad hominem attacks don't help your own case. I would say the same thing to <insert team, organization, ethnicity, class, gender, etc> fan.
Maybe so. But I didn't see you offering your lovely sentiments at these same people when we were the ones being attacked. You chose this specific time (KT fans at the receiving end) to come in and launch your spiel at a specific person (an SKT fan who was merely returning the favor from the last game).
The funny part is that I didn't even return any favors or anything lol, I berated someone else for being hypocritical and he came to defend THAT.
give me a break,sure I make fun of him a lot but that doesn't take away the fact that I do respect him, his fans on the other hand well...its no secret I don't like them, but I make sure to keep peace with most of them..
Anti-SKT?
I take it as a job of being a KT fan.:p
ProFlash/KT.
I'm a KT fan being pro KT is what I am supposed to do, but then again I don't like many of my own either, specifically the ones who wear the badge for Flash and not really for KT.
I don't care for Flash as much as I used to anymore, sure it sucks when he loses but I hate it when KT loses more.
Edit: also I don't really mind you calling me out either, its always good to know that people do have an opinion of me and would so kind to disclose them, theres always time to re-evaluate yourself.
I wonder if you thinks the same when you are not on the receiving end of these stuff :3
honestly, I don't, maybe one yong taek joke but thats it.
You must be kidding, right? You're one of the most prolific anti-Bisu anti-SKT pro-Flash pro-KT posters there is, period. Don't dish it out if you can't take it, it's hypocritical.
Also, who is insulting you? Basking in the despair of another is not an insult, I'm sure that's the way you feel when you say SKT/BISU TEARS/HE MADE BISU CRY whatever.
You're right, it's not an insult, it's socio-psychopathic (specifically, schadenfreude) and you need to see a psychologist if you don't understand how it makes other people feel. If you do understand it but still choose to do it then you aren't making logical decisions and should accept the consequences.
this thread reads like teenagers who have never watched or been a part of any kind of sport before. LOL at gloating = sociopsychopathy
Rather or not /how you personally identify the severity of issues has nothing to do with the nature of the actual issues. You can exhibit behaviours that are sociopathic / psychopathic in minor ways, that doesn't change the nature of it. Obviously the repercussions / how severe the consequences are to yourself / other people range greatly, I'm just making the point that you need to understand what you are doing. Being an ass to someone online that you have no personal stake in / probably will never see isn't different at all from being an ass to someone who's a close family friend in the nature of choosing to be an asshole, the only difference is one forces you to deal with the consequences.
You know, that is really great advice. I suggest you offer it to these people:
You do realize I haven't defended either parties (be it fan or anti-fan) nor am I partaking in these activities right. I'm just making general statements for both sides. Text book ad hominem attacks don't help your own case. I would say the same thing to <insert team, organization, ethnicity, class, gender, etc> fan.
Conveniently right after a KT's loss, were these awesome standards on vacation in the other occasions (some of which were quoted by Kiett)?
Seriously, your team-tag is spoiling your (hehe, hopefully) good intentions. I suggest you wait until after a KT win, their fans do their usual things, if you dump these stuff on them then, it's gonna make a lot more people take you seriously. You have to time your moral attacks better man.
Have you seen my posts in the thread of STX vs KT where Dear won over flash? How are these "attacks" exactly.
I wonder if you thinks the same when you are not on the receiving end of these stuff :3
honestly, I don't, maybe one yong taek joke but thats it.
You must be kidding, right? You're one of the most prolific anti-Bisu anti-SKT pro-Flash pro-KT posters there is, period. Don't dish it out if you can't take it, it's hypocritical.
Also, who is insulting you? Basking in the despair of another is not an insult, I'm sure that's the way you feel when you say SKT/BISU TEARS/HE MADE BISU CRY whatever.
You're right, it's not an insult, it's socio-psychopathic (specifically, schadenfreude) and you need to see a psychologist if you don't understand how it makes other people feel. If you do understand it but still choose to do it then you aren't making logical decisions and should accept the consequences.
this thread reads like teenagers who have never watched or been a part of any kind of sport before. LOL at gloating = sociopsychopathy
Rather or not /how you personally identify the severity of issues has nothing to do with the nature of the actual issues. You can exhibit behaviours that are sociopathic / psychopathic in minor ways, that doesn't change the nature of it. Obviously the repercussions / how severe the consequences are to yourself / other people range greatly, I'm just making the point that you need to understand what you are doing. Being an ass to someone online that you have no personal stake in / probably will never see isn't different at all from being an ass to someone who's a close family friend in the nature of choosing to be an asshole, the only difference is one forces you to deal with the consequences.
You know, that is really great advice. I suggest you offer it to these people:
You do realize I haven't defended either parties (be it fan or anti-fan) nor am I partaking in these activities right. I'm just making general statements for both sides. Text book ad hominem attacks don't help your own case. I would say the same thing to <insert team, organization, ethnicity, class, gender, etc> fan.
Maybe so. But I didn't see you offering your lovely sentiments at these same people when we were the ones being attacked. You chose this specific time (KT fans at the receiving end) to come in and launch your spiel at a specific person (an SKT fan who was merely returning the favor from the last game). That may well be a coincidence, but forgive me if I refrain from giving you the benefit of the doubt.
On that note, lighten up. If I shed a tear for every time an antifan gloated, I'd be a dry husk already. It's the internet, people gloat, don't take it seriously, and get over it.
Look at my posts in the thread of KT vs STX where Flash lost. Again these are entirely ad hominem, what fan I personally am has nothing to do with it. I'm not upset over the fact I just think this community would benefit from less animosity.
I wonder if you thinks the same when you are not on the receiving end of these stuff :3
honestly, I don't, maybe one yong taek joke but thats it.
You must be kidding, right? You're one of the most prolific anti-Bisu anti-SKT pro-Flash pro-KT posters there is, period. Don't dish it out if you can't take it, it's hypocritical.
Also, who is insulting you? Basking in the despair of another is not an insult, I'm sure that's the way you feel when you say SKT/BISU TEARS/HE MADE BISU CRY whatever.
You're right, it's not an insult, it's socio-psychopathic (specifically, schadenfreude) and you need to see a psychologist if you don't understand how it makes other people feel. If you do understand it but still choose to do it then you aren't making logical decisions and should accept the consequences.
I actually didn't say anything besides call Blind-Rawr on his hypocrisy, I think going around saying "xxx tears" is a dick move and pathetic as well, not much different from yong-taeking at every opportunity.
I wonder if you thinks the same when you are not on the receiving end of these stuff :3
honestly, I don't, maybe one yong taek joke but thats it.
You must be kidding, right? You're one of the most prolific anti-Bisu anti-SKT pro-Flash pro-KT posters there is, period. Don't dish it out if you can't take it, it's hypocritical.
Also, who is insulting you? Basking in the despair of another is not an insult, I'm sure that's the way you feel when you say SKT/BISU TEARS/HE MADE BISU CRY whatever.
You're right, it's not an insult, it's socio-psychopathic (specifically, schadenfreude) and you need to see a psychologist if you don't understand how it makes other people feel. If you do understand it but still choose to do it then you aren't making logical decisions and should accept the consequences.
this thread reads like teenagers who have never watched or been a part of any kind of sport before. LOL at gloating = sociopsychopathy
Rather or not /how you personally identify the severity of issues has nothing to do with the nature of the actual issues. You can exhibit behaviours that are sociopathic / psychopathic in minor ways, that doesn't change the nature of it. Obviously the repercussions / how severe the consequences are to yourself / other people range greatly, I'm just making the point that you need to understand what you are doing. Being an ass to someone online that you have no personal stake in / probably will never see isn't different at all from being an ass to someone who's a close family friend in the nature of choosing to be an asshole, the only difference is one forces you to deal with the consequences.
You know, that is really great advice. I suggest you offer it to these people:
You do realize I haven't defended either parties (be it fan or anti-fan) nor am I partaking in these activities right. I'm just making general statements for both sides. Text book ad hominem attacks don't help your own case. I would say the same thing to <insert team, organization, ethnicity, class, gender, etc> fan.
Maybe so. But I didn't see you offering your lovely sentiments at these same people when we were the ones being attacked. You chose this specific time (KT fans at the receiving end) to come in and launch your spiel at a specific person (an SKT fan who was merely returning the favor from the last game).
The funny part is that I didn't even return any favors or anything lol, I berated someone else for being hypocritical and he came to defend THAT.
I'm not defending Blind for what he may have said in the past, I just found the bold part of your reply highly ridiculous. I didn't comment on rather Blind was correct or not, and I went out of my way to state that these are general statements at anyone who behaves this way and should accept the consequences of said actions.
On March 05 2012 12:09 BLinD-RawR wrote: Anti-Bisu?
give me a break,sure I make fun of him a lot but that doesn't take away the fact that I do respect him, his fans on the other hand well...its no secret I don't like them, but I make sure to keep peace with most of them..
Anti-SKT?
I take it as a job of being a KT fan.:p
ProFlash/KT.
I'm a KT fan being pro KT is what I am supposed to do, but then again I don't like many of my own either, specifically the ones who wear the badge for Flash and not really for KT.
I don't care for Flash as much as I used to anymore, sure it sucks when he loses but I hate it when KT loses more.
Edit: also I don't really mind you calling me out either, its always good to know that people do have an opinion of me and would so kind to disclose them, theres always time to re-evaluate yourself.
I wonder how many KT fans would change their icon if flash changed teams.
( Yeah I know it will never happen, just in theory. )
I wonder if you thinks the same when you are not on the receiving end of these stuff :3
honestly, I don't, maybe one yong taek joke but thats it.
You must be kidding, right? You're one of the most prolific anti-Bisu anti-SKT pro-Flash pro-KT posters there is, period. Don't dish it out if you can't take it, it's hypocritical.
Also, who is insulting you? Basking in the despair of another is not an insult, I'm sure that's the way you feel when you say SKT/BISU TEARS/HE MADE BISU CRY whatever.
You're right, it's not an insult, it's socio-psychopathic (specifically, schadenfreude) and you need to see a psychologist if you don't understand how it makes other people feel. If you do understand it but still choose to do it then you aren't making logical decisions and should accept the consequences.
this thread reads like teenagers who have never watched or been a part of any kind of sport before. LOL at gloating = sociopsychopathy
Rather or not /how you personally identify the severity of issues has nothing to do with the nature of the actual issues. You can exhibit behaviours that are sociopathic / psychopathic in minor ways, that doesn't change the nature of it. Obviously the repercussions / how severe the consequences are to yourself / other people range greatly, I'm just making the point that you need to understand what you are doing. Being an ass to someone online that you have no personal stake in / probably will never see isn't different at all from being an ass to someone who's a close family friend in the nature of choosing to be an asshole, the only difference is one forces you to deal with the consequences.
You know, that is really great advice. I suggest you offer it to these people:
You do realize I haven't defended either parties (be it fan or anti-fan) nor am I partaking in these activities right. I'm just making general statements for both sides. Text book ad hominem attacks don't help your own case. I would say the same thing to <insert team, organization, ethnicity, class, gender, etc> fan.
Conveniently right after a KT's loss, were these awesome standards on vacation in the other occasions (some of which were quoted by Kiett)?
Seriously, your team-tag is spoiling your (hehe, hopefully) good intentions. I suggest you wait until after a KT win, their fans do their usual things, if you dump these stuff on them then, it's gonna make a lot more people take you seriously. You have to time your moral attacks better man.
Have you seen my posts in the thread of STX vs KT where Dear won over flash? How are these "attacks" exactly.
Ahh.. I was just trying to make a pun on "timing-attack", but i guess that doesn't come out right. Bah.
Well, if you would point your posts out, then i guess we can have something to talk about? Cos i don't know what you wrote there.
On March 05 2012 12:09 BLinD-RawR wrote: Anti-Bisu?
give me a break,sure I make fun of him a lot but that doesn't take away the fact that I do respect him, his fans on the other hand well...its no secret I don't like them, but I make sure to keep peace with most of them..
On March 05 2012 12:09 BLinD-RawR wrote: Anti-Bisu?
give me a break,sure I make fun of him a lot but that doesn't take away the fact that I do respect him, his fans on the other hand well...its no secret I don't like them, but I make sure to keep peace with most of them..
Anti-SKT?
I take it as a job of being a KT fan.:p
ProFlash/KT.
I'm a KT fan being pro KT is what I am supposed to do, but then again I don't like many of my own either, specifically the ones who wear the badge for Flash and not really for KT.
I don't care for Flash as much as I used to anymore, sure it sucks when he loses but I hate it when KT loses more.
Edit: also I don't really mind you calling me out either, its always good to know that people do have an opinion of me and would so kind to disclose them, theres always time to re-evaluate yourself.
I wonder how many KT fans would change their icon if flash changed teams.
( Yeah I know it will never happen, just in theory. )
I wonder how many SKT fans would have change their icon if bisu changes team .
( I know it won't happen, you know it's a question of life that you have to ask once in a while ).
honestly, I don't, maybe one yong taek joke but thats it.
You must be kidding, right? You're one of the most prolific anti-Bisu anti-SKT pro-Flash pro-KT posters there is, period. Don't dish it out if you can't take it, it's hypocritical.
Also, who is insulting you? Basking in the despair of another is not an insult, I'm sure that's the way you feel when you say SKT/BISU TEARS/HE MADE BISU CRY whatever.
You're right, it's not an insult, it's socio-psychopathic (specifically, schadenfreude) and you need to see a psychologist if you don't understand how it makes other people feel. If you do understand it but still choose to do it then you aren't making logical decisions and should accept the consequences.
this thread reads like teenagers who have never watched or been a part of any kind of sport before. LOL at gloating = sociopsychopathy
Rather or not /how you personally identify the severity of issues has nothing to do with the nature of the actual issues. You can exhibit behaviours that are sociopathic / psychopathic in minor ways, that doesn't change the nature of it. Obviously the repercussions / how severe the consequences are to yourself / other people range greatly, I'm just making the point that you need to understand what you are doing. Being an ass to someone online that you have no personal stake in / probably will never see isn't different at all from being an ass to someone who's a close family friend in the nature of choosing to be an asshole, the only difference is one forces you to deal with the consequences.
You know, that is really great advice. I suggest you offer it to these people:
You do realize I haven't defended either parties (be it fan or anti-fan) nor am I partaking in these activities right. I'm just making general statements for both sides. Text book ad hominem attacks don't help your own case. I would say the same thing to <insert team, organization, ethnicity, class, gender, etc> fan.
Conveniently right after a KT's loss, were these awesome standards on vacation in the other occasions (some of which were quoted by Kiett)?
Seriously, your team-tag is spoiling your (hehe, hopefully) good intentions. I suggest you wait until after a KT win, their fans do their usual things, if you dump these stuff on them then, it's gonna make a lot more people take you seriously. You have to time your moral attacks better man.
Have you seen my posts in the thread of STX vs KT where Dear won over flash? How are these "attacks" exactly.
Ahh.. I was just trying to make a pun on "timing-attack", but i guess that doesn't come out right. Bah.
Well, if you would point your posts out, then i guess we can have something to talk about? Cos i don't know what you wrote there.
On March 01 2012 03:44 beachbeachy wrote: okay so everyone is making a big deal out of this.
dear hid his tech and flash missed it. whoop dido. dear didn't crush, outplay, or outsmart flash.
You know, I heard that studying your opponents scouting and scanning patterns, then using their lack of information to your advantage is considered outsmarting someone.
still believe it was a fluke.
Coincidences happen in Starcraft, Dear hid the tech and made an obs first / pylon walled his third to give flash the false sense of security against reavers, and the location he hid his tech /shuttle at was at a location flash isn't known to scan / be able to scout at that point in the game; these are all things Dear did right and is brilliant mind gaming / preparation ahead of time. But Dear couldn't have possibly predicted that Flash would cancel his turrets when he saw the pylon wall at his third, that's something only someone as ballsy as flash would do just to squeeze out any possible advantage they could get. But at the end of the day Dear executed his well prepared snipe strategy well and he did outplay flash in this game.
As much as I am a personal fan of flash, there shouldn't exist someone who's 100% dominant in a competitive scene; especially in a game like starcraft, if there was an perfect strategy or build order where the only barrier was execution (apm, macro, micro, scouting, etc) and the only counter was executing the strategy better, then the game would grow stale and be boring to watch to everyone except statistic analysts and video-game programmers.
The fact that there is this much community attention in flash just losing one game is already proof that he is a great player (perhaps one of the greatest of all time and definitely the best right now), and we should be happy that he is making other players push themselves to find inventive strategies (dear did 1 gate expand -> robo -> obs /shuttle -> shuttle speed / 1 reaver + 2 lot drop while hiding his tech, the reaver, the shuttle, as well as shuttle speed from flash who is known to have very good scans, then followed it up with a bull dog break with 2 shuttles before flash's third was up and flash's macro could kick in) and making the BW scene much more competitive and enjoyable to watch. As we can see from the post-game audience reaction and interview, Dear was ecstatic and more motivated than ever to be a great progamer as a rookie (which is exactly what we need to keep the BW pro-scene active), and flash was contemplative but not negatively effected by the loss - he's still going to keep winning, refining his strategy, and learn from his mistake. Results like this we should be happy to see and GOOD FOR ESPORTS, rather than fighting among each other and segregating the community.
On March 01 2012 12:05 LunarDestiny wrote: There goes Power Rank number 2: Dear. Reason? Beat Flash.
You mean Flash #2 right?
#1 Dear. If you don't know why, then you don't deserve to know why.
#2 Flash If you don't know why, then you don't deserve to know why.
#3 Does it really matter at this point?
I will refer you to my post on page 51.
Why is anyone attempting to promote segregation and anger between segments of the community when events like this are only good for esports? It was an interesting build and an interesting game. No need to tell ANY fan "they don't deserve to know why" and just ignore all other players beside Flash and Dear.
I didn't want to quote because it would be a big wall but yea, here's an instance where KT fans were dismissing Dear's win over flash and general badness and how I responded. I've said what I wanted to say on the issue. Thanks.
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Cos i don't know what you wrote there.
