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[SPL] Woongjin Stars vs CJ Entus - Page 16

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Vuk_91
Profile Joined September 2010
Serbia1690 Posts
February 28 2012 12:08 GMT
#301
On February 28 2012 21:06 Kazius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2012 20:54 letian wrote:
The only fact that irritates me is when zergs of high caliber get busted like this

The metagame turns, and ages come and pass, leaving memories that become legend. Legend fades to myth, and even myth is long forgotten when the age that gave it birth comes again. He who must not be named's shift of the metagame in Zerg favor is finally over. People studied up... Zerg need a new hero, a few more innovators (because seriously, other than ZerO, Zerg players invented nothing new since the 3 base spire into 5 hatch hydra bust anti-Bisu build-build), not just people with sharp management games (SK, Hydra, I'm looking at you guys).

It seems like zergs have very little space for inovations,especially in ZvT...
yepenaxa
Profile Joined July 2011
Belarus2280 Posts
February 28 2012 12:08 GMT
#302
Woongjin Stars [1] vs [1] CJ Entus

Match 3: Neo Outlier
Zero @ 12 purple
Hydra @ 3 blue
War. Bloody War.
pencil-leads
Profile Joined November 2011
Singapore404 Posts
February 28 2012 12:08 GMT
#303
both scouting in the right directions
http://no-more-fairytales.com/scbw
Letmelose
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Korea (South)3227 Posts
February 28 2012 12:08 GMT
#304
With one factory expand and two starport wraiths being such viable builds even when properly scouted, it's near suicide to account for every single cheese terran can pull-off one base if terran denies you scouting by playing safe. A smart player can abuse their advantage in the number of viable strategies to no ends, and I've always felt that terran versus zerg was the match-up where the difference was the greatest.
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letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-28 12:08:49
February 28 2012 12:08 GMT
#305
On February 28 2012 21:06 Kazius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2012 20:54 letian wrote:
The only fact that irritates me is when zergs of high caliber get busted like this

The metagame turns, and ages come and pass, leaving memories that become legend. Legend fades to myth, and even myth is long forgotten when the age that gave it birth comes again. He who must not be named's shift of the metagame in Zerg favor is finally over. People studied up... Zerg need a new hero, a few more innovators (because seriously, other than ZerO, Zerg players invented nothing new since the 3 base spire into 5 hatch hydra bust anti-Bisu build-build), not just people with sharp management games (SK, Hydra, I'm looking at you guys).

SC needs new stars and new competition more than new zerg strategies.
Vuk_91
Profile Joined September 2010
Serbia1690 Posts
February 28 2012 12:09 GMT
#306
Ok,here we go,Zero vs Hydra,both players scouting correctly.
pencil-leads
Profile Joined November 2011
Singapore404 Posts
February 28 2012 12:09 GMT
#307
On February 28 2012 21:08 letian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2012 21:06 Kazius wrote:
On February 28 2012 20:54 letian wrote:
The only fact that irritates me is when zergs of high caliber get busted like this

The metagame turns, and ages come and pass, leaving memories that become legend. Legend fades to myth, and even myth is long forgotten when the age that gave it birth comes again. He who must not be named's shift of the metagame in Zerg favor is finally over. People studied up... Zerg need a new hero, a few more innovators (because seriously, other than ZerO, Zerg players invented nothing new since the 3 base spire into 5 hatch hydra bust anti-Bisu build-build), not just people with sharp management games (SK, Hydra, I'm looking at you guys).

SC needs new stars and new competition more than new zerg strategies.


but with the Bo5 format it is hard to introduce new stars without taking a certain level of risks....
http://no-more-fairytales.com/scbw
hellbound
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2242 Posts
February 28 2012 12:09 GMT
#308
On February 28 2012 21:06 Kazius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2012 20:54 letian wrote:
The only fact that irritates me is when zergs of high caliber get busted like this

The metagame turns, and ages come and pass, leaving memories that become legend. Legend fades to myth, and even myth is long forgotten when the age that gave it birth comes again. He who must not be named's shift of the metagame in Zerg favor is finally over. People studied up... Zerg need a new hero, a few more innovators (because seriously, other than ZerO, Zerg players invented nothing new since the 3 base spire into 5 hatch hydra bust anti-Bisu build-build), not just people with sharp management games (SK, Hydra, I'm looking at you guys).


There is no such thing as a 5 hat bust -___-

To many zerg heroes got booted out of pro BW. Can you believe that once upon a time there was a high level zerg whose' best match-up was ZvT? And he'd go and boot Flash out of a starleague? Sounds like some sort of weird fantasy nowadays
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
February 28 2012 12:09 GMT
#309
On February 28 2012 21:07 Kiett wrote:
Stars is pretty screwed. Light vs 3 CJ Tosses.

Unless Zero wins this one, then they might send hon_sin with some crazy shit against Snow/Movie.
But its Zero playing ZvZ, who knows what will happen.
btw, is free on the bench?
La parole nous a été donnée pour déguiser notre pensée
[V]
Profile Joined November 2011
United States905 Posts
February 28 2012 12:09 GMT
#310
On February 28 2012 21:06 Kazius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2012 20:54 letian wrote:
The only fact that irritates me is when zergs of high caliber get busted like this

The metagame turns, and ages come and pass, leaving memories that become legend. Legend fades to myth, and even myth is long forgotten when the age that gave it birth comes again. He who must not be named's shift of the metagame in Zerg favor is finally over. People studied up... Zerg need a new hero, a few more innovators (because seriously, other than ZerO, Zerg players invented nothing new since the 3 base spire into 5 hatch hydra bust anti-Bisu build-build), not just people with sharp management games (SK, Hydra, I'm looking at you guys).

I read it with a LoTR voice over mood. Nice post!
Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici
Vuk_91
Profile Joined September 2010
Serbia1690 Posts
February 28 2012 12:10 GMT
#311
Mirror builds thus far
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50601 Posts
February 28 2012 12:10 GMT
#312
dafuq zero?
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Vuk_91
Profile Joined September 2010
Serbia1690 Posts
February 28 2012 12:10 GMT
#313
wtf is this?
TRAP[yoo]
Profile Joined December 2009
Hungary6026 Posts
February 28 2012 12:10 GMT
#314
mass ling i guess
FTD
Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
February 28 2012 12:11 GMT
#315
On February 28 2012 21:09 Itachii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2012 21:07 Kiett wrote:
Stars is pretty screwed. Light vs 3 CJ Tosses.

Unless Zero wins this one, then they might send hon_sin with some crazy shit against Snow/Movie.
But its Zero playing ZvZ, who knows what will happen.
btw, is free on the bench?

Yeah I'm wondering if Free is going to play tonight, I haven't seen him in a while.
Stars can still with this with Free and Hon_Sin. They can win with light too, as long as he doesn't play standard
Because when you left, Brood War was all spotlights and titans. Now, with the death of the big leagues, Brood War has moved to the basements and carparks. Now, Brood War is unlicensed brawls, lost teeth, and bloody fights for fistfulls of money - SirJolt
Vuk_91
Profile Joined September 2010
Serbia1690 Posts
February 28 2012 12:11 GMT
#316
Zero thinks that Hydra is stupid and he won`t realize that 2nd hatch has to be somewhere?
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50601 Posts
February 28 2012 12:11 GMT
#317
On February 28 2012 21:10 Vuk_91 wrote:
Mirror builds thus far

On February 28 2012 21:10 Vuk_91 wrote:
wtf is this?


priceless response.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TRAP[yoo]
Profile Joined December 2009
Hungary6026 Posts
February 28 2012 12:11 GMT
#318
On February 28 2012 21:11 Hyde wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2012 21:09 Itachii wrote:
On February 28 2012 21:07 Kiett wrote:
Stars is pretty screwed. Light vs 3 CJ Tosses.

Unless Zero wins this one, then they might send hon_sin with some crazy shit against Snow/Movie.
But its Zero playing ZvZ, who knows what will happen.
btw, is free on the bench?

Yeah I'm wondering if Free is going to play tonight, I haven't seen him in a while.
Stars can still with this with Free and Hon_Sin. They can win with light too, as long as he doesn't play standard

he has to pull off bbs or a 2fact :D
FTD
hellbound
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2242 Posts
February 28 2012 12:11 GMT
#319
Hydra MUST realise that that is 12hat timing, please?
[V]
Profile Joined November 2011
United States905 Posts
February 28 2012 12:12 GMT
#320
Now with the information out for both,
All please seat back and enjoy some clutch Hydra decision making!
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