[SPL] STX Soul VS KT Rolster - Page 8

On January 18 2012 04:35 bearbuddy wrote:


Name one team that is arrogant in their interview. I wish there's one team that would take up the bad boy mantle, or at least, a couple of players. It would be hilarious for Flash to just go, lol ez, put down the mike, then cross his arms.

On January 18 2012 05:48 George_the_man wrote:


wow... ok... i cant name u teams i can name u players
I dont think there is better example of being arrogant than Bests interview 30 minutes before PL 10-11 finals started , Flash literally opened his mouth when he heard Best trashing him.

Arrogance is also manifestating overconfidence - I can give u tons of examples here , literally tons, but id rather show u few behaviors i disliked in recent games
Recent Bisu interview - Winning Zergs doesnt feel like winning to me
Dear - he beat like 3 guys and " I want to face Flash , i can win him"
Stork building nexuses in his last game - its not arrogance but i think that was rude, its not like ACE can train as much as different teams , i would be very dissapointed if one of KT players would do that ...
I could give so many examples like that , even Last and Bogus wants to face Flash cause they think they can win him , cmon what is that ?

Im not saying being confident is bad, its good thing , but being to confident is something i dont like at all .

And now lets go to KT . Most interviews i remember they were talking over and over how hard they need to work , or how hard they were working to bring results they achieved, dont remember them being to confident or rude towards opponents.

And now Flash... I remember his last interview when he totally schooled Horang, he was actually pointing out his own mistakes that he needs to work on in the future to become better player - that is a mentality of true champion to me.
And out of all players he has the best reason to be arrogant like hell - i would probably be if i were him ;/.

On January 18 2012 05:48 George_the_man wrote:


Stork building nexuses in his last game - its not arrogance but i think that was rude, its not like ACE can train as much as different teams , i would be very dissapointed if one of KT players would do that ...

On January 18 2012 06:28 ne4aJIb wrote:
Please God make the match between Flash and Last on Electric Circuit, let it be the most epic TvT one and a half hour long! And give Last the power to destroy Terminator!

On January 18 2012 04:19 NukeTheStars wrote:
I love banners like this, Shimmy. It even sparked a nebulous debate about good and evil in the thread. That's the sign of a good banner.

On January 18 2012 06:26 bearbuddy wrote:


It's a cultural thing, I guess.

There's a difference between confidence and outright arrogance. Stork was arrogant (especially in his earlier days). FBH was arrogant. Oov was arrogant. Savior was arrogant (I'll destroy everyone in 2009. ok?). Dear, Bogus and Last are not. What are they suppose to say? I can't win? They didn't say I'm gonna destroy Flash ez k thanks. They want to go up against the best, not cower in fear. Those going in with a defeatist attitude shouldn't even be a professional gamer.

Every single progamer that has been interviewed has had interviews where they went like blah blah I'll work harder. Every. Single. One. Flash, like every pros, gives those generic response, but he also has had moments where he deviated from the norm. He had one ceremony where he essentially acknowledged his nickname "God" Young Ho (I don't think anyone calling himself God can be too humble. Just saying). Bisu is one of the shyest personalities, and gives plenty of "I'll work harder" responses as well as the lol-insurance-group ones. Seems like you're judging the players based on your selective memory.

On January 18 2012 07:53 George_the_man wrote:



I know theres a difference thats why i explained that manifesting ur confidence means being arrogant - i actually checked up dictionary for that , have really no idea about players u mentioned because i watch BW like 1.5 year so cant have opinion about it.

I think i didnt made my last post clear
"Arrogance is also manifestating overconfidence - I can give u tons of examples here , literally tons, but id rather show u few behaviors i disliked in recent games"
I meant that i could give u a lot of examples people being to condifent but instead of that i will show u examples not being necessarily arrogant , but for whatever reasons i disliked them , therefore im not saying Last , Bogus are arrogant at all.
Im not saying that Dear shouldnt be condifent , but cmon ... Hon_Sin could also say he can beat every P on earth now left and right since he beat Bisu once and its not like everyone would have to like it what he says...

Its not that i have selective memory , nothing is only black or white , not saying Flash is perfect (dunno that interview with Flash but cmon thats the worst thing u could find for him?) i was just trying to make a point that KT players are probably the most manner players in PL, because they almost never sounds arrogant, overconfident or offensive towards their opponents, thats how i see it , therefore KT team shouldnt be disliked that much .. (but ofc i might be wrong because we see their interviews soooo rarelly - cmon KT fans translate more !)

I might be wrong because i am only a human who cant be 100% objective but thats the impression i got from reading every interview i could find in english.

On January 18 2012 09:09 Bisu-Fan wrote:


Wow... I'm really surprised that Bisu said that winning against zergs doesn't feel like winning any more... Because I've just looked up "SKT interview" in the search bar, and went through like back to the first round of last year (when you started watching BW I'm guessing) and except for 2/3 times where Bisu says, "I'm going to get revenge" or "I'm going to win for sure" he's pretty much saying, "I was extremely lucky", "The opponent made a crucial mistake so my mistake of not doing something was covered" or "I was extremely lucky" (Yes I repeat on purpose) And in this interview, Bisu even says his PvZ is "terrible"... http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=208016

As you can see, I'm a fan of Bisu... my fricking ID is "Bisu-Fan" and I've followed him for ... wow has it already been 5ish years now? And while watching live interviews in Korean or reading translated versions, I've seen a mighty lot of "luck" being given credit for the win... I've even read comments to his interviews saying he's being ridiculous when he says he was lucky winning his 2nd all kill or something... But that's just my opinion defending Bisu... Yes, I fully understand you not liking people being arrogant... Citing basketball, I'm a Lebron James hater, and I love seeing Lebron making the worst choices in interviews... The first interview that comes to mind is his response to his loss in the finals at Dallas... He literally says to the reporters, "I'm better than you guys and I'm going to keep living the way I live... whether you like it or not" puahaha Sorry LBJ fans~ but that was just too juicy for everyone not to report about~ And yes, I fully agree with you, no one likes this kind of arrogance... But I think what bearbuddy in the beginning meant was that he would like to see some personality in some of teh gamers who speak their minds without just saying the boring, generic, answers... It's part of the sport in my opinion... Michael Jordan (the best player to have every played basketball) was one of the biggest trash talkers in the NBA... Everyone loved it~ I would occasionally love to see some confidence and character in some of these pros~ It'd be awesome... That's why we all watch the "talk-show" like MSL(RIP)/OSL group selection ceremonies right? :D

Edit: yeah bearbuddy does clarify~

On January 18 2012 09:22 The Final Boss wrote:
Everybody's talking about how Rocky loses to the Russian, but let's not forget another story of an underdog vs. a Russian:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGACsSW4Iqw

On January 18 2012 09:27 TheShimmy wrote:


Adding this to the hype later!

On January 18 2012 09:27 TheShimmy wrote:


Adding this to the hype later!

On January 18 2012 09:59 red4ce wrote:
Wait a second here. Flash's picture should be the one photoshopped onto Rocky's body and Calm should be the one on Drago. Remember this is Rocky IV we're talking about here. Rocky Balboa was already a multiple winning World Champion at the time of the fight just like KT is now. Just like Rocky, KT has a powerful lefty, a loose association with the mafia, an unbreakable chin and ends his fights in a flash. STX is Drago, the competitor who came into the spotlight by beating down the ex champ Apollo Creed (SKT) whom Rocky had himself beaten in order to become world champion (last 2 proleague finals).