• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 11:11
CET 16:11
KST 00:11
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!9[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
Evil Geniuses - shutting down14ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier5Weekly Cups (October 12-18): 5.0.17 era begins1[$1250] International ShieldBattery League73Weekly Cups (October 5-11): Farewell to 5.0.167
StarCraft 2
General
How do you feel about the mass reverts in the 5.0.17 PTR? REPORT: StarCraft 2: Remastered In Development Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners No more SC2 streamers on team liquid? Evil Geniuses - shutting down
Tourneys
ScienceCraft (October 24-25) - Live Event Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier WORTEX Challenger Series — Open SC2 LAN in Budapes
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[G] How to playtest arcade maps [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Sweltering Sands
External Content
Mutation # 549 Endless Sparkles The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 548 Shining Bright Mutation # 547 Temple Of Terror
Brood War
General
Recent recommended BW games Oceanic Brood War - Join and chat! Sagi.gg Launcher Released Bot on ladder Do we even care about balance?
Tourneys
[ASL22] Grand Finals [$1250] International ShieldBattery League [BSL23] RO24 Group C Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) 50,000-Word Terran Builds Memo 2026-10-22 Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Mobile Legends: Bang Bang Armies of Exigo - YesYes? General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
Reynor Fan Club The Flash Fan Club Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Innovate or Game Over?
TrAiDoS
ShieldBattery on Mac
Kraekkling
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 9566 users

[SPL] STX Soul VS KT Rolster - Page 8

Forum Index > Brood War Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 6 7 8 9 10 50 Next All
Taekwon
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8155 Posts
January 17 2012 19:56 GMT
#141
If I'm not here for this, I think imma kill myself.
▲ ▲ ▲
George_the_man
Profile Joined May 2011
796 Posts
January 17 2012 20:48 GMT
#142
On January 18 2012 04:35 bearbuddy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2012 04:16 George_the_man wrote:
KT players are very mannered , gentlemans! They are not arrogant or offensive in interviews.
They are nice and respective to opponents, KT cant be evil,
Kiett loves us already , so do u even if u dont know it yet!


Name one team that is arrogant in their interview. I wish there's one team that would take up the bad boy mantle, or at least, a couple of players. It would be hilarious for Flash to just go, lol ez, put down the mike, then cross his arms.


wow... ok... i cant name u teams i can name u players
I dont think there is better example of being arrogant than Bests interview 30 minutes before PL 10-11 finals started , Flash literally opened his mouth when he heard Best trashing him.

Arrogance is also manifestating overconfidence - I can give u tons of examples here , literally tons, but id rather show u few behaviors i disliked in recent games
Recent Bisu interview - Winning Zergs doesnt feel like winning to me
Dear - he beat like 3 guys and " I want to face Flash , i can win him"
Stork building nexuses in his last game - its not arrogance but i think that was rude, its not like ACE can train as much as different teams , i would be very dissapointed if one of KT players would do that ...
I could give so many examples like that , even Last and Bogus wants to face Flash cause they think they can win him , cmon what is that ?

Im not saying being confident is bad, its good thing , but being to confident is something i dont like at all .

And now lets go to KT . Most interviews i remember they were talking over and over how hard they need to work , or how hard they were working to bring results they achieved, dont remember them being to confident or rude towards opponents.

And now Flash... I remember his last interview when he totally schooled Horang, he was actually pointing out his own mistakes that he needs to work on in the future to become better player - that is a mentality of true champion to me.
And out of all players he has the best reason to be arrogant like hell - i would probably be if i were him ;/

Thats just the way i see it , not gonna lie i train martial art and being respectful to your opponents in place i train is just a normal thing , thats why its pretty shocking to me seeing some stuff people write here..
pred470r
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Bulgaria3265 Posts
January 17 2012 20:55 GMT
#143
GOOOOOOOOOOO KTTTTTTTTTTTTT, this will be awesome!
Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
January 17 2012 21:12 GMT
#144
Fargin Iceholes.

Due to shitty work schedule, I can't watch live.

T_____________T
SirJolt: Well maybe if you weren't so big and stupid, it wouldn't have hit you.
bearbuddy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3442 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-17 21:51:21
January 17 2012 21:26 GMT
#145
On January 18 2012 05:48 George_the_man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2012 04:35 bearbuddy wrote:
On January 18 2012 04:16 George_the_man wrote:
KT players are very mannered , gentlemans! They are not arrogant or offensive in interviews.
They are nice and respective to opponents, KT cant be evil,
Kiett loves us already , so do u even if u dont know it yet!


Name one team that is arrogant in their interview. I wish there's one team that would take up the bad boy mantle, or at least, a couple of players. It would be hilarious for Flash to just go, lol ez, put down the mike, then cross his arms.


wow... ok... i cant name u teams i can name u players
I dont think there is better example of being arrogant than Bests interview 30 minutes before PL 10-11 finals started , Flash literally opened his mouth when he heard Best trashing him.

Arrogance is also manifestating overconfidence - I can give u tons of examples here , literally tons, but id rather show u few behaviors i disliked in recent games
Recent Bisu interview - Winning Zergs doesnt feel like winning to me
Dear - he beat like 3 guys and " I want to face Flash , i can win him"
Stork building nexuses in his last game - its not arrogance but i think that was rude, its not like ACE can train as much as different teams , i would be very dissapointed if one of KT players would do that ...
I could give so many examples like that , even Last and Bogus wants to face Flash cause they think they can win him , cmon what is that ?

Im not saying being confident is bad, its good thing , but being to confident is something i dont like at all .

And now lets go to KT . Most interviews i remember they were talking over and over how hard they need to work , or how hard they were working to bring results they achieved, dont remember them being to confident or rude towards opponents.

And now Flash... I remember his last interview when he totally schooled Horang, he was actually pointing out his own mistakes that he needs to work on in the future to become better player - that is a mentality of true champion to me.
And out of all players he has the best reason to be arrogant like hell - i would probably be if i were him ;/.


It's a cultural thing, I guess.

There's a difference between confidence and outright arrogance. Stork was arrogant (especially in his earlier days). FBH was arrogant. Oov was arrogant. Savior was arrogant (I'll destroy everyone in 2009. ok?). Dear, Bogus and Last are not. What are they suppose to say? I can't win? They didn't say I'm gonna destroy Flash ez k thanks. They want to go up against the best, not cower in fear. Those going in with a defeatist attitude shouldn't even be a professional gamer.

Every single progamer that has been interviewed has had interviews where they went like blah blah I'll work harder. Every. Single. One. Flash, like every pros, gives those generic response, but he also has had moments where he deviated from the norm. He had one ceremony where he essentially acknowledged his nickname "God" Young Ho (I don't think anyone calling himself God can be too humble. Just saying). Bisu is one of the shyest personalities, and gives plenty of "I'll work harder" responses as well as the lol-insurance-group ones. Seems like you're judging the players based on your selective memory.
ne4aJIb
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Russian Federation3209 Posts
January 17 2012 21:28 GMT
#146
Please God make the match between Flash and Last on Electric Circuit, let it be the most epic TvT one and a half hour long! And give Last the power to destroy Terminator!
Bisu,Best,Stork,Jangbi and Flash, Fantasy, Leta, Light and Jaedong, Hydra, Zero, Soulkey assemble in ACE now!
ne4aJIb
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Russian Federation3209 Posts
January 17 2012 21:35 GMT
#147
On January 18 2012 05:48 George_the_man wrote:


Stork building nexuses in his last game - its not arrogance but i think that was rude, its not like ACE can train as much as different teams , i would be very dissapointed if one of KT players would do that ...


I was really dissapointed when Stork did this. I think it is necessary to show respect for army people. Eventually, Piano is the soldier.
Bisu,Best,Stork,Jangbi and Flash, Fantasy, Leta, Light and Jaedong, Hydra, Zero, Soulkey assemble in ACE now!
elagrion
Profile Joined April 2010
Ukraine422 Posts
January 17 2012 22:05 GMT
#148
On January 18 2012 06:28 ne4aJIb wrote:
Please God make the match between Flash and Last on Electric Circuit, let it be the most epic TvT one and a half hour long! And give Last the power to destroy Terminator!

Amen!
Everything is a remix.
TheShimmy
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1808 Posts
January 17 2012 22:20 GMT
#149
On January 18 2012 04:19 NukeTheStars wrote:
I love banners like this, Shimmy. It even sparked a nebulous debate about good and evil in the thread. That's the sign of a good banner.



Haha thanks Nuke. You should totally cast this series if you're not planning on watching. It's the last one before the break anyways.
Hyvaa #1 Fan. Gogo STX, Dear, Bogus, Classic, and Mini! Always a BW fan!
George_the_man
Profile Joined May 2011
796 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-17 23:00:08
January 17 2012 22:53 GMT
#150
On January 18 2012 06:26 bearbuddy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2012 05:48 George_the_man wrote:
On January 18 2012 04:35 bearbuddy wrote:
On January 18 2012 04:16 George_the_man wrote:
KT players are very mannered , gentlemans! They are not arrogant or offensive in interviews.
They are nice and respective to opponents, KT cant be evil,
Kiett loves us already , so do u even if u dont know it yet!


Name one team that is arrogant in their interview. I wish there's one team that would take up the bad boy mantle, or at least, a couple of players. It would be hilarious for Flash to just go, lol ez, put down the mike, then cross his arms.


wow... ok... i cant name u teams i can name u players
I dont think there is better example of being arrogant than Bests interview 30 minutes before PL 10-11 finals started , Flash literally opened his mouth when he heard Best trashing him.

Arrogance is also manifestating overconfidence - I can give u tons of examples here , literally tons, but id rather show u few behaviors i disliked in recent games
Recent Bisu interview - Winning Zergs doesnt feel like winning to me
Dear - he beat like 3 guys and " I want to face Flash , i can win him"
Stork building nexuses in his last game - its not arrogance but i think that was rude, its not like ACE can train as much as different teams , i would be very dissapointed if one of KT players would do that ...
I could give so many examples like that , even Last and Bogus wants to face Flash cause they think they can win him , cmon what is that ?

Im not saying being confident is bad, its good thing , but being to confident is something i dont like at all .

And now lets go to KT . Most interviews i remember they were talking over and over how hard they need to work , or how hard they were working to bring results they achieved, dont remember them being to confident or rude towards opponents.

And now Flash... I remember his last interview when he totally schooled Horang, he was actually pointing out his own mistakes that he needs to work on in the future to become better player - that is a mentality of true champion to me.
And out of all players he has the best reason to be arrogant like hell - i would probably be if i were him ;/.


It's a cultural thing, I guess.

There's a difference between confidence and outright arrogance. Stork was arrogant (especially in his earlier days). FBH was arrogant. Oov was arrogant. Savior was arrogant (I'll destroy everyone in 2009. ok?). Dear, Bogus and Last are not. What are they suppose to say? I can't win? They didn't say I'm gonna destroy Flash ez k thanks. They want to go up against the best, not cower in fear. Those going in with a defeatist attitude shouldn't even be a professional gamer.

Every single progamer that has been interviewed has had interviews where they went like blah blah I'll work harder. Every. Single. One. Flash, like every pros, gives those generic response, but he also has had moments where he deviated from the norm. He had one ceremony where he essentially acknowledged his nickname "God" Young Ho (I don't think anyone calling himself God can be too humble. Just saying). Bisu is one of the shyest personalities, and gives plenty of "I'll work harder" responses as well as the lol-insurance-group ones. Seems like you're judging the players based on your selective memory.



I know theres a difference thats why i explained that manifesting ur confidence means being arrogant - i actually checked up dictionary for that , have really no idea about players u mentioned because i watch BW like 1.5 year so cant have opinion about it.

I think i didnt made my last post clear
"Arrogance is also manifestating overconfidence - I can give u tons of examples here , literally tons, but id rather show u few behaviors i disliked in recent games"
I meant that i could give u a lot of examples people being to condifent but instead of that i will show u examples not being necessarily arrogant , but for whatever reasons i disliked them , therefore im not saying Last , Bogus are arrogant at all.
Im not saying that Dear shouldnt be condifent , but cmon ... Hon_Sin could also say he can beat every P on earth now left and right since he beat Bisu once and its not like everyone would have to like it what he says...

Its not that i have selective memory , nothing is only black or white , not saying Flash is perfect (dunno that interview with Flash but cmon thats the worst thing u could find for him?) i was just trying to make a point that KT players are probably the most manner players in PL, because they almost never sounds arrogant, overconfident or offensive towards their opponents, thats how i see it , therefore KT team shouldnt be disliked that much .. (but ofc i might be wrong because we see their interviews soooo rarelly - cmon KT fans translate more !)

I might be wrong because i am only a human who cant be 100% objective but thats the impression i got from reading every interview i could find in english.
Bisu-Fan
Profile Joined January 2010
Russian Federation3339 Posts
January 17 2012 23:06 GMT
#151
GOGOGO STX!!!
I like the vulture with Bogus :D Bogus for the win!!!
The Revolutionist Shall Rise Again! No. 1 Kim Taek Yong Fan 어헣↗ GO JAEDONG!!!!!!! GO ACE!!! 태연 <3 윤아 <3 승연 <3
bearbuddy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3442 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-17 23:57:05
January 17 2012 23:54 GMT
#152
On January 18 2012 07:53 George_the_man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2012 06:26 bearbuddy wrote:
On January 18 2012 05:48 George_the_man wrote:
On January 18 2012 04:35 bearbuddy wrote:
On January 18 2012 04:16 George_the_man wrote:
KT players are very mannered , gentlemans! They are not arrogant or offensive in interviews.
They are nice and respective to opponents, KT cant be evil,
Kiett loves us already , so do u even if u dont know it yet!


Name one team that is arrogant in their interview. I wish there's one team that would take up the bad boy mantle, or at least, a couple of players. It would be hilarious for Flash to just go, lol ez, put down the mike, then cross his arms.


wow... ok... i cant name u teams i can name u players
I dont think there is better example of being arrogant than Bests interview 30 minutes before PL 10-11 finals started , Flash literally opened his mouth when he heard Best trashing him.

Arrogance is also manifestating overconfidence - I can give u tons of examples here , literally tons, but id rather show u few behaviors i disliked in recent games
Recent Bisu interview - Winning Zergs doesnt feel like winning to me
Dear - he beat like 3 guys and " I want to face Flash , i can win him"
Stork building nexuses in his last game - its not arrogance but i think that was rude, its not like ACE can train as much as different teams , i would be very dissapointed if one of KT players would do that ...
I could give so many examples like that , even Last and Bogus wants to face Flash cause they think they can win him , cmon what is that ?

Im not saying being confident is bad, its good thing , but being to confident is something i dont like at all .

And now lets go to KT . Most interviews i remember they were talking over and over how hard they need to work , or how hard they were working to bring results they achieved, dont remember them being to confident or rude towards opponents.

And now Flash... I remember his last interview when he totally schooled Horang, he was actually pointing out his own mistakes that he needs to work on in the future to become better player - that is a mentality of true champion to me.
And out of all players he has the best reason to be arrogant like hell - i would probably be if i were him ;/.


It's a cultural thing, I guess.

There's a difference between confidence and outright arrogance. Stork was arrogant (especially in his earlier days). FBH was arrogant. Oov was arrogant. Savior was arrogant (I'll destroy everyone in 2009. ok?). Dear, Bogus and Last are not. What are they suppose to say? I can't win? They didn't say I'm gonna destroy Flash ez k thanks. They want to go up against the best, not cower in fear. Those going in with a defeatist attitude shouldn't even be a professional gamer.

Every single progamer that has been interviewed has had interviews where they went like blah blah I'll work harder. Every. Single. One. Flash, like every pros, gives those generic response, but he also has had moments where he deviated from the norm. He had one ceremony where he essentially acknowledged his nickname "God" Young Ho (I don't think anyone calling himself God can be too humble. Just saying). Bisu is one of the shyest personalities, and gives plenty of "I'll work harder" responses as well as the lol-insurance-group ones. Seems like you're judging the players based on your selective memory.



I know theres a difference thats why i explained that manifesting ur confidence means being arrogant - i actually checked up dictionary for that , have really no idea about players u mentioned because i watch BW like 1.5 year so cant have opinion about it.

I think i didnt made my last post clear
"Arrogance is also manifestating overconfidence - I can give u tons of examples here , literally tons, but id rather show u few behaviors i disliked in recent games"
I meant that i could give u a lot of examples people being to condifent but instead of that i will show u examples not being necessarily arrogant , but for whatever reasons i disliked them , therefore im not saying Last , Bogus are arrogant at all.
Im not saying that Dear shouldnt be condifent , but cmon ... Hon_Sin could also say he can beat every P on earth now left and right since he beat Bisu once and its not like everyone would have to like it what he says...

Its not that i have selective memory , nothing is only black or white , not saying Flash is perfect (dunno that interview with Flash but cmon thats the worst thing u could find for him?) i was just trying to make a point that KT players are probably the most manner players in PL, because they almost never sounds arrogant, overconfident or offensive towards their opponents, thats how i see it , therefore KT team shouldnt be disliked that much .. (but ofc i might be wrong because we see their interviews soooo rarelly - cmon KT fans translate more !)

I might be wrong because i am only a human who cant be 100% objective but thats the impression i got from reading every interview i could find in english.


Oh my bad, I misread that part. I assumed that when you stated you know tons of examples of arrogance that you were going to state a few. Hence, I maintain that progamers are too tame and well-mannered to have a diverse character (I really doubt you can give me literally tons of examples), and wish that Flash would be a little more BM. I mean, it's clear that he's very good, and he knows it. It was quite a mold breaker when he held up that sign saying he's God Young Ho. There's a sense that he's holding back because it's the "right" thing to do. Curse you Reach and your good role-modeling.
Bisu-Fan
Profile Joined January 2010
Russian Federation3339 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-18 00:11:18
January 18 2012 00:09 GMT
#153
On January 18 2012 07:53 George_the_man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2012 06:26 bearbuddy wrote:
On January 18 2012 05:48 George_the_man wrote:
On January 18 2012 04:35 bearbuddy wrote:
On January 18 2012 04:16 George_the_man wrote:
KT players are very mannered , gentlemans! They are not arrogant or offensive in interviews.
They are nice and respective to opponents, KT cant be evil,
Kiett loves us already , so do u even if u dont know it yet!


Name one team that is arrogant in their interview. I wish there's one team that would take up the bad boy mantle, or at least, a couple of players. It would be hilarious for Flash to just go, lol ez, put down the mike, then cross his arms.


wow... ok... i cant name u teams i can name u players
I dont think there is better example of being arrogant than Bests interview 30 minutes before PL 10-11 finals started , Flash literally opened his mouth when he heard Best trashing him.

Arrogance is also manifestating overconfidence - I can give u tons of examples here , literally tons, but id rather show u few behaviors i disliked in recent games
Recent Bisu interview - Winning Zergs doesnt feel like winning to me
Dear - he beat like 3 guys and " I want to face Flash , i can win him"
Stork building nexuses in his last game - its not arrogance but i think that was rude, its not like ACE can train as much as different teams , i would be very dissapointed if one of KT players would do that ...
I could give so many examples like that , even Last and Bogus wants to face Flash cause they think they can win him , cmon what is that ?

Im not saying being confident is bad, its good thing , but being to confident is something i dont like at all .

And now lets go to KT . Most interviews i remember they were talking over and over how hard they need to work , or how hard they were working to bring results they achieved, dont remember them being to confident or rude towards opponents.

And now Flash... I remember his last interview when he totally schooled Horang, he was actually pointing out his own mistakes that he needs to work on in the future to become better player - that is a mentality of true champion to me.
And out of all players he has the best reason to be arrogant like hell - i would probably be if i were him ;/.


It's a cultural thing, I guess.

There's a difference between confidence and outright arrogance. Stork was arrogant (especially in his earlier days). FBH was arrogant. Oov was arrogant. Savior was arrogant (I'll destroy everyone in 2009. ok?). Dear, Bogus and Last are not. What are they suppose to say? I can't win? They didn't say I'm gonna destroy Flash ez k thanks. They want to go up against the best, not cower in fear. Those going in with a defeatist attitude shouldn't even be a professional gamer.

Every single progamer that has been interviewed has had interviews where they went like blah blah I'll work harder. Every. Single. One. Flash, like every pros, gives those generic response, but he also has had moments where he deviated from the norm. He had one ceremony where he essentially acknowledged his nickname "God" Young Ho (I don't think anyone calling himself God can be too humble. Just saying). Bisu is one of the shyest personalities, and gives plenty of "I'll work harder" responses as well as the lol-insurance-group ones. Seems like you're judging the players based on your selective memory.



I know theres a difference thats why i explained that manifesting ur confidence means being arrogant - i actually checked up dictionary for that , have really no idea about players u mentioned because i watch BW like 1.5 year so cant have opinion about it.

I think i didnt made my last post clear
"Arrogance is also manifestating overconfidence - I can give u tons of examples here , literally tons, but id rather show u few behaviors i disliked in recent games"
I meant that i could give u a lot of examples people being to condifent but instead of that i will show u examples not being necessarily arrogant , but for whatever reasons i disliked them , therefore im not saying Last , Bogus are arrogant at all.
Im not saying that Dear shouldnt be condifent , but cmon ... Hon_Sin could also say he can beat every P on earth now left and right since he beat Bisu once and its not like everyone would have to like it what he says...

Its not that i have selective memory , nothing is only black or white , not saying Flash is perfect (dunno that interview with Flash but cmon thats the worst thing u could find for him?) i was just trying to make a point that KT players are probably the most manner players in PL, because they almost never sounds arrogant, overconfident or offensive towards their opponents, thats how i see it , therefore KT team shouldnt be disliked that much .. (but ofc i might be wrong because we see their interviews soooo rarelly - cmon KT fans translate more !)

I might be wrong because i am only a human who cant be 100% objective but thats the impression i got from reading every interview i could find in english.


Wow... I'm really surprised that Bisu said that winning against zergs doesn't feel like winning any more... Because I've just looked up "SKT interview" in the search bar, and went through like back to the first round of last year (when you started watching BW I'm guessing) and except for 2/3 times where Bisu says, "I'm going to get revenge" or "I'm going to win for sure" he's pretty much saying, "I was extremely lucky", "The opponent made a crucial mistake so my mistake of not doing something was covered" or "I was extremely lucky" (Yes I repeat on purpose) And in this interview, Bisu even says his PvZ is "terrible"... http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=208016

As you can see, I'm a fan of Bisu... my fricking ID is "Bisu-Fan" and I've followed him for ... wow has it already been 5ish years now? And while watching live interviews in Korean or reading translated versions, I've seen a mighty lot of "luck" being given credit for the win... I've even read comments to his interviews saying he's being ridiculous when he says he was lucky winning his 2nd all kill or something... But that's just my opinion defending Bisu... Yes, I fully understand you not liking people being arrogant... Citing basketball, I'm a Lebron James hater, and I love seeing Lebron making the worst choices in interviews... The first interview that comes to mind is his response to his loss in the finals at Dallas... He literally says to the reporters, "I'm better than you guys and I'm going to keep living the way I live... whether you like it or not" puahaha Sorry LBJ fans~ but that was just too juicy for everyone not to report about~ And yes, I fully agree with you, no one likes this kind of arrogance... But I think what bearbuddy in the beginning meant was that he would like to see some personality in some of teh gamers who speak their minds without just saying the boring, generic, answers... It's part of the sport in my opinion... Michael Jordan (the best player to have every played basketball) was one of the biggest trash talkers in the NBA... Everyone loved it~ I would occasionally love to see some confidence and character in some of these pros~ It'd be awesome... That's why we all watch the "talk-show" like MSL(RIP)/OSL group selection ceremonies right? :D

Edit: yeah bearbuddy does clarify~
The Revolutionist Shall Rise Again! No. 1 Kim Taek Yong Fan 어헣↗ GO JAEDONG!!!!!!! GO ACE!!! 태연 <3 윤아 <3 승연 <3
The Final Boss
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1839 Posts
January 18 2012 00:22 GMT
#154
Everybody's talking about how Rocky loses to the Russian, but let's not forget another story of an underdog vs. a Russian:



Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
January 18 2012 00:22 GMT
#155
On January 18 2012 09:09 Bisu-Fan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2012 07:53 George_the_man wrote:
On January 18 2012 06:26 bearbuddy wrote:
On January 18 2012 05:48 George_the_man wrote:
On January 18 2012 04:35 bearbuddy wrote:
On January 18 2012 04:16 George_the_man wrote:
KT players are very mannered , gentlemans! They are not arrogant or offensive in interviews.
They are nice and respective to opponents, KT cant be evil,
Kiett loves us already , so do u even if u dont know it yet!


Name one team that is arrogant in their interview. I wish there's one team that would take up the bad boy mantle, or at least, a couple of players. It would be hilarious for Flash to just go, lol ez, put down the mike, then cross his arms.


wow... ok... i cant name u teams i can name u players
I dont think there is better example of being arrogant than Bests interview 30 minutes before PL 10-11 finals started , Flash literally opened his mouth when he heard Best trashing him.

Arrogance is also manifestating overconfidence - I can give u tons of examples here , literally tons, but id rather show u few behaviors i disliked in recent games
Recent Bisu interview - Winning Zergs doesnt feel like winning to me
Dear - he beat like 3 guys and " I want to face Flash , i can win him"
Stork building nexuses in his last game - its not arrogance but i think that was rude, its not like ACE can train as much as different teams , i would be very dissapointed if one of KT players would do that ...
I could give so many examples like that , even Last and Bogus wants to face Flash cause they think they can win him , cmon what is that ?

Im not saying being confident is bad, its good thing , but being to confident is something i dont like at all .

And now lets go to KT . Most interviews i remember they were talking over and over how hard they need to work , or how hard they were working to bring results they achieved, dont remember them being to confident or rude towards opponents.

And now Flash... I remember his last interview when he totally schooled Horang, he was actually pointing out his own mistakes that he needs to work on in the future to become better player - that is a mentality of true champion to me.
And out of all players he has the best reason to be arrogant like hell - i would probably be if i were him ;/.


It's a cultural thing, I guess.

There's a difference between confidence and outright arrogance. Stork was arrogant (especially in his earlier days). FBH was arrogant. Oov was arrogant. Savior was arrogant (I'll destroy everyone in 2009. ok?). Dear, Bogus and Last are not. What are they suppose to say? I can't win? They didn't say I'm gonna destroy Flash ez k thanks. They want to go up against the best, not cower in fear. Those going in with a defeatist attitude shouldn't even be a professional gamer.

Every single progamer that has been interviewed has had interviews where they went like blah blah I'll work harder. Every. Single. One. Flash, like every pros, gives those generic response, but he also has had moments where he deviated from the norm. He had one ceremony where he essentially acknowledged his nickname "God" Young Ho (I don't think anyone calling himself God can be too humble. Just saying). Bisu is one of the shyest personalities, and gives plenty of "I'll work harder" responses as well as the lol-insurance-group ones. Seems like you're judging the players based on your selective memory.



I know theres a difference thats why i explained that manifesting ur confidence means being arrogant - i actually checked up dictionary for that , have really no idea about players u mentioned because i watch BW like 1.5 year so cant have opinion about it.

I think i didnt made my last post clear
"Arrogance is also manifestating overconfidence - I can give u tons of examples here , literally tons, but id rather show u few behaviors i disliked in recent games"
I meant that i could give u a lot of examples people being to condifent but instead of that i will show u examples not being necessarily arrogant , but for whatever reasons i disliked them , therefore im not saying Last , Bogus are arrogant at all.
Im not saying that Dear shouldnt be condifent , but cmon ... Hon_Sin could also say he can beat every P on earth now left and right since he beat Bisu once and its not like everyone would have to like it what he says...

Its not that i have selective memory , nothing is only black or white , not saying Flash is perfect (dunno that interview with Flash but cmon thats the worst thing u could find for him?) i was just trying to make a point that KT players are probably the most manner players in PL, because they almost never sounds arrogant, overconfident or offensive towards their opponents, thats how i see it , therefore KT team shouldnt be disliked that much .. (but ofc i might be wrong because we see their interviews soooo rarelly - cmon KT fans translate more !)

I might be wrong because i am only a human who cant be 100% objective but thats the impression i got from reading every interview i could find in english.


Wow... I'm really surprised that Bisu said that winning against zergs doesn't feel like winning any more... Because I've just looked up "SKT interview" in the search bar, and went through like back to the first round of last year (when you started watching BW I'm guessing) and except for 2/3 times where Bisu says, "I'm going to get revenge" or "I'm going to win for sure" he's pretty much saying, "I was extremely lucky", "The opponent made a crucial mistake so my mistake of not doing something was covered" or "I was extremely lucky" (Yes I repeat on purpose) And in this interview, Bisu even says his PvZ is "terrible"... http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=208016

As you can see, I'm a fan of Bisu... my fricking ID is "Bisu-Fan" and I've followed him for ... wow has it already been 5ish years now? And while watching live interviews in Korean or reading translated versions, I've seen a mighty lot of "luck" being given credit for the win... I've even read comments to his interviews saying he's being ridiculous when he says he was lucky winning his 2nd all kill or something... But that's just my opinion defending Bisu... Yes, I fully understand you not liking people being arrogant... Citing basketball, I'm a Lebron James hater, and I love seeing Lebron making the worst choices in interviews... The first interview that comes to mind is his response to his loss in the finals at Dallas... He literally says to the reporters, "I'm better than you guys and I'm going to keep living the way I live... whether you like it or not" puahaha Sorry LBJ fans~ but that was just too juicy for everyone not to report about~ And yes, I fully agree with you, no one likes this kind of arrogance... But I think what bearbuddy in the beginning meant was that he would like to see some personality in some of teh gamers who speak their minds without just saying the boring, generic, answers... It's part of the sport in my opinion... Michael Jordan (the best player to have every played basketball) was one of the biggest trash talkers in the NBA... Everyone loved it~ I would occasionally love to see some confidence and character in some of these pros~ It'd be awesome... That's why we all watch the "talk-show" like MSL(RIP)/OSL group selection ceremonies right? :D

Edit: yeah bearbuddy does clarify~


Bisu said it in a postmatch interview a couples matches ago against.......Effort?I believe.
WriterXiao8~~
TheShimmy
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1808 Posts
January 18 2012 00:27 GMT
#156
On January 18 2012 09:22 The Final Boss wrote:
Everybody's talking about how Rocky loses to the Russian, but let's not forget another story of an underdog vs. a Russian:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGACsSW4Iqw



Adding this to the hype later!
Hyvaa #1 Fan. Gogo STX, Dear, Bogus, Classic, and Mini! Always a BW fan!
The Final Boss
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1839 Posts
January 18 2012 00:28 GMT
#157
On January 18 2012 09:27 TheShimmy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2012 09:22 The Final Boss wrote:
Everybody's talking about how Rocky loses to the Russian, but let's not forget another story of an underdog vs. a Russian:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGACsSW4Iqw



Adding this to the hype later!

STX underdog fighting ^^
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8182 Posts
January 18 2012 00:47 GMT
#158
On January 18 2012 09:27 TheShimmy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2012 09:22 The Final Boss wrote:
Everybody's talking about how Rocky loses to the Russian, but let's not forget another story of an underdog vs. a Russian:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGACsSW4Iqw



Adding this to the hype later!




this clip is better
Free Palestine
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-18 01:02:27
January 18 2012 00:59 GMT
#159
Wait a second here. Flash's picture should be the one photoshopped onto Rocky's body and Calm should be the one on Drago. Remember this is Rocky IV we're talking about here. Rocky Balboa was already a multiple winning World Champion at the time of the fight just like KT is now. Just like Rocky, KT has a powerful lefty, a loose association with the mafia, an unbreakable chin and ends his fights in a flash. STX is Drago, the competitor who came into the spotlight by beating down the ex champ Apollo Creed (SKT) whom Rocky had himself beaten in order to become world champion (last 2 proleague finals).
Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
January 18 2012 01:18 GMT
#160
On January 18 2012 09:59 red4ce wrote:
Wait a second here. Flash's picture should be the one photoshopped onto Rocky's body and Calm should be the one on Drago. Remember this is Rocky IV we're talking about here. Rocky Balboa was already a multiple winning World Champion at the time of the fight just like KT is now. Just like Rocky, KT has a powerful lefty, a loose association with the mafia, an unbreakable chin and ends his fights in a flash. STX is Drago, the competitor who came into the spotlight by beating down the ex champ Apollo Creed (SKT) whom Rocky had himself beaten in order to become world champion (last 2 proleague finals).


Gold star :D

IDC who is who, as long as STX wins :p
SirJolt: Well maybe if you weren't so big and stupid, it wouldn't have hit you.
Prev 1 6 7 8 9 10 50 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
WardiTV Weekly
21:00
WardiTV Mondays #110
IntoTheiNu 1221
WardiTV923
OGKoka 305
IndyStarCraft 204
Rex148
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Lowko448
OGKoka 305
IndyStarCraft 204
Rex 148
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 4347
BeSt 1326
EffOrt 823
Shuttle 659
Horang2 613
Soma 593
Mini 453
Light 362
Larva 354
Snow 303
[ Show more ]
Hyuk 271
ZerO 243
ggaemo 206
Soulkey 126
Rush 120
Zeus 110
Dewaltoss 89
Mind 85
Sharp 55
JYJ 41
Mong 38
Shinee 32
Terrorterran 31
Killer 29
Trap 28
ToSsGirL 27
Bishop 25
Hm[arnc] 22
Aegong 19
Sacsri 17
Shine 16
Sexy 16
sorry 15
Movie 14
zelot 14
yabsab 11
Dota 2
Gorgc17465
qojqva1443
syndereN247
BananaSlamJamma128
Counter-Strike
dupreeh503
byalli450
Heroes of the Storm
Trikslyr26
Other Games
singsing2389
B2W.Neo1311
hiko1274
Liquid`RaSZi1092
Beastyqt566
Pyrionflax283
crisheroes246
Mlord241
Hui .180
XaKoH 175
Liquid`VortiX144
RotterdaM110
Liquid`LucifroN66
QueenE38
ZerO(Twitch)12
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL32469
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 5
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• Michael_bg 3
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 1880
• WagamamaTV496
League of Legends
• Nemesis2125
• Jankos768
• TFBlade512
Upcoming Events
IntoTheTV X SOOP
19h 49m
ByuN vs Lambo
MaxPax vs Bunny
PiGosaur Cup
1d 8h
The PondCast
1d 18h
Kung Fu Cup
1d 19h
IntoTheTV X SOOP
2 days
SHIN vs GuMiho
Clem vs Classic
WardiTV Invitational
3 days
GSL
3 days
Epic.LAN
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
[ Show More ]
Epic.LAN
4 days
Yamato Cup
5 days
Map Test Tournament
6 days
WardiTV Weekly
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #5 - GSC
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HCC Season 3

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
ShieldBattery League 1
BSL Season 23
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026

Upcoming

IPSL Winter 2026-27
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.