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bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
January 10 2012 11:46 GMT
#621
On January 10 2012 20:45 sinistral wrote:
I guess it's just JD underestimating Flash being cross position on the map.

that would never happen 2 years ago or whenever JD felt his game
Stork[gm]
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
January 10 2012 11:46 GMT
#622
stop saying it was a rookie mistake, it wasn't

there was a lot of psychological warfare going on between the two players

Jaedong thought: we are cross position, i only saw 8 marines, he's just trying to make me build sunkens to waste my econ, aint falling for that shit

Flash thought: I'm going to fake him into thinking i'm just faking it, and rape him with MMF

Flash won at a higher level, Jaedong lost the mind game, it wasn't a "rookie mistake".
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
oldgregg
Profile Joined February 2011
New Zealand1176 Posts
January 10 2012 11:46 GMT
#623
On January 10 2012 20:45 Doraemon wrote:
i think we've lost the old jd for good...=[ that is so sad to say.


It's only when we've lost everything that we're free to do anything
Calculatedly addicted to Substance D for profit by drug terrorists
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States6479 Posts
January 10 2012 11:46 GMT
#624
On January 10 2012 20:45 Doraemon wrote:
i think we've lost the old jd for good...=[ that is so sad to say.

Yeah. Old JD would have had like a dozen lings while rushing 2 hatch muta. Thing is, the game still would have been five minutes.
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
mnesthes
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
5433 Posts
January 10 2012 11:46 GMT
#625
so much foe hype. I cant watch atm but this is the first game from flsh that I vote no
<+LighTofHeaveN> Ppl call this "Indigo Children"
George_the_man
Profile Joined May 2011
796 Posts
January 10 2012 11:46 GMT
#626
btw fun stats on sniper ridge PvT: 5-1 (83.3%)
Stork said its unfriendly PvT map >< tosses said maps are unfriendly for them even before PL started , PROTOSSES LIES
gngfn
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1726 Posts
January 10 2012 11:47 GMT
#627
On January 10 2012 20:43 okum wrote:
Is there actually something unusual about this exact timing attack that made Jaedong fail to defend it?

I think it depends on the marines already being in the middle of the map. Ordinarily you can't move out with 5-6 marines, because if the Zerg happened to make a decent number of lings, you're going to lose all of them and be in bad shape when mutas pop. The marines already being there let Flash get to the nat really fast, preventing Jaedong from making sunkens on reaction, which I think is what all top Zerg players do now in order to maximize their economy.
BookTwo
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
1985 Posts
January 10 2012 11:47 GMT
#628
On January 10 2012 20:46 Cambium wrote:
stop saying it was a rookie mistake, it wasn't

there was a lot of psychological warfare going on between the two players

Jaedong thought: we are cross position, i only saw 8 marines, he's just trying to make me build sunkens to waste my econ, aint falling for that shit

Flash thought: I'm going to fake him into thinking i'm just faking it, and rape him with MMF

Flash won at a higher level, Jaedong lost the mind game, it wasn't a "rookie mistake".


wasn't flash at cross position against soo too?
Aus)MaCrO
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia349 Posts
January 10 2012 11:47 GMT
#629
JD going the way of his predecessor, our sAviOr. Albeit without the matchfixing.
DarkMatter_
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada1774 Posts
January 10 2012 11:47 GMT
#630
Fuck this, I'm going to go watch Forgg vs. MC.
Shurayuki
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2665 Posts
January 10 2012 11:47 GMT
#631
so from the Lr i take it JD got soOd? SKT Zergs redeemed lol^^;

why u doin dis 2 me dong ;_;
なまいきになんなよ~ Don't be too stakka~ ☆ SKT Harlequin ☆ n.Die_soO Hoppin You ♪ 愛 am BeSt ♪ ワイフ♥小早川りんこ
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
January 10 2012 11:47 GMT
#632
On January 10 2012 20:46 oldgregg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2012 20:45 Doraemon wrote:
i think we've lost the old jd for good...=[ that is so sad to say.


It's only when we've lost everything that we're free to do anything


win OSL? yes please
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37110 Posts
January 10 2012 11:48 GMT
#633
Flash vs Jaedong...... Disappointment? THAT RARELY EVER HAPPENS THOUGH!!!
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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Dakkas
Profile Joined October 2010
2550 Posts
January 10 2012 11:48 GMT
#634
On January 10 2012 20:47 BookTwo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2012 20:46 Cambium wrote:
stop saying it was a rookie mistake, it wasn't

there was a lot of psychological warfare going on between the two players

Jaedong thought: we are cross position, i only saw 8 marines, he's just trying to make me build sunkens to waste my econ, aint falling for that shit

Flash thought: I'm going to fake him into thinking i'm just faking it, and rape him with MMF

Flash won at a higher level, Jaedong lost the mind game, it wasn't a "rookie mistake".


wasn't flash at cross position against soo too?


That was just because soo is bad
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
January 10 2012 11:48 GMT
#635
On January 10 2012 20:46 Cambium wrote:
stop saying it was a rookie mistake, it wasn't

there was a lot of psychological warfare going on between the two players

Jaedong thought: we are cross position, i only saw 8 marines, he's just trying to make me build sunkens to waste my econ, aint falling for that shit

Flash thought: I'm going to fake him into thinking i'm just faking it, and rape him with MMF

Flash won at a higher level, Jaedong lost the mind game, it wasn't a "rookie mistake".

JD was a loser in a mind game BECAUSE he felt like a weaker player, if he thought he HAD to take that risk says much about his confidence... its sad because in a state he is now he cant project his vision of the game anymore
Stork[gm]
friendbg
Profile Joined November 2010
Bulgaria576 Posts
January 10 2012 11:49 GMT
#636
On January 10 2012 20:48 Seeker wrote:
Flash vs Jaedong...... Disappointment? THAT RARELY EVER HAPPENS THOUGH!!!

actually that happens a lot
Why leave today's work for tomorrow, when you can do it the day after
oldgregg
Profile Joined February 2011
New Zealand1176 Posts
January 10 2012 11:49 GMT
#637
On January 10 2012 20:47 Doraemon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2012 20:46 oldgregg wrote:
On January 10 2012 20:45 Doraemon wrote:
i think we've lost the old jd for good...=[ that is so sad to say.


It's only when we've lost everything that we're free to do anything


win OSL? yes please


Jangbang did it, JD can too!
Calculatedly addicted to Substance D for profit by drug terrorists
corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
January 10 2012 11:49 GMT
#638
On January 10 2012 20:47 gngfn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2012 20:43 okum wrote:
Is there actually something unusual about this exact timing attack that made Jaedong fail to defend it?

I think it depends on the marines already being in the middle of the map. Ordinarily you can't move out with 5-6 marines, because if the Zerg happened to make a decent number of lings, you're going to lose all of them and be in bad shape when mutas pop. The marines already being there let Flash get to the nat really fast, preventing Jaedong from making sunkens on reaction, which I think is what all top Zerg players do now in order to maximize their economy.

I agree with this analysis and I'll add very good scouting denial (it's hard to get overlord near the terran base on this map), and those lost lings made it hard for Jaedong to know if Flash's pressure was real or not.
‎numquam se plus agere quam nihil cum ageret, numquam minus solum esse quam cum solus esset
pvzvt
Profile Joined October 2009
Israel2097 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-10 11:51:07
January 10 2012 11:49 GMT
#639
On January 10 2012 20:45 Hazzyboy wrote:
n.die.Jaedong = n.die.soO
Absoulutly same level of play vs Flash. Team 8 is doomed to suck.

guessing by the big number of comments u have in your account
u and your 2 brothers should wait for the premiere in april
thats when the hobbit comes out
till than plz leave us with your stupid remarks
i say we dust off and nuke it from orbit
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66364 Posts
January 10 2012 11:49 GMT
#640
just 1 ling at natural could have stopped that
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