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On January 07 2012 13:46 Cambium wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2012 13:45 Harem wrote:On January 07 2012 13:44 Zona wrote:On January 07 2012 13:36 friendbg wrote:On January 07 2012 13:33 Dakkas wrote:On January 07 2012 13:33 friendbg wrote:On January 07 2012 13:30 Zona wrote:On January 07 2012 13:29 RelZo wrote:The problem is, that after this game ppl will keep saying that Best has a good PvZ when he doesn't. Hoejja was just bad  Well I guess owning Jaedong this season doesn't count for anything either, right? jaedong isn't on his game vs p. Not a good exapmple Hydra, however, is a good example what has the world become, hydra being the benchmark for good zerg The guy's pretty good nowadays. And starleague winner and all that. Hydra never won a starleague. except the msl over great...
But the MSL isn't a starleague - cuz OGN sez so!
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On January 07 2012 13:46 Xiphos wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2012 13:44 ArvickHero wrote:
in regards to Bisu vs Wooki, Wooki actually would've had a huge advantage that game had he built a forge for a cannon to stop the advancement of cannons to his expo. With that one cannon, he'd be free to build up his probe count and the necessary units to kill the 2 cannons at his main, giving himself a better econ and tech over Bisu.
Everything is 20/20 in hindsight though. Basically, Protosses only need to scout for Brave's variation of Cannon rush, as that one is impossible to beat once the cannons are up. Bisu's variation is easily blocked once you think of the counter Khan's variation is much cleaner and versatile, is that what you are saying?
it's just more deadly, but easily scouted. Both are allins lol
The crucial difference is the location of the proxy pylon.
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On January 07 2012 13:45 Harem wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2012 13:44 Zona wrote:On January 07 2012 13:36 friendbg wrote:On January 07 2012 13:33 Dakkas wrote:On January 07 2012 13:33 friendbg wrote:On January 07 2012 13:30 Zona wrote:On January 07 2012 13:29 RelZo wrote:The problem is, that after this game ppl will keep saying that Best has a good PvZ when he doesn't. Hoejja was just bad Well I guess owning Jaedong this season doesn't count for anything either, right? jaedong isn't on his game vs p. Not a good exapmple Hydra, however, is a good example what has the world become, hydra being the benchmark for good zerg The guy's pretty good nowadays. And starleague winner and all that. Hydra never won a starleague.
Wonder how many ppl will walk into this trap...
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On January 07 2012 13:47 Harem wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2012 13:46 Cambium wrote:On January 07 2012 13:45 Harem wrote:On January 07 2012 13:44 Zona wrote:On January 07 2012 13:36 friendbg wrote:On January 07 2012 13:33 Dakkas wrote:On January 07 2012 13:33 friendbg wrote:On January 07 2012 13:30 Zona wrote:On January 07 2012 13:29 RelZo wrote:The problem is, that after this game ppl will keep saying that Best has a good PvZ when he doesn't. Hoejja was just bad Well I guess owning Jaedong this season doesn't count for anything either, right? jaedong isn't on his game vs p. Not a good exapmple Hydra, however, is a good example what has the world become, hydra being the benchmark for good zerg The guy's pretty good nowadays. And starleague winner and all that. Hydra never won a starleague. except the msl over great... http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Starleague
oh c'mon </3
that was a good troll, i've fallen behind on these 'news'
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On January 07 2012 13:47 Harem wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2012 13:46 Cambium wrote:On January 07 2012 13:45 Harem wrote:On January 07 2012 13:44 Zona wrote:On January 07 2012 13:36 friendbg wrote:On January 07 2012 13:33 Dakkas wrote:On January 07 2012 13:33 friendbg wrote:On January 07 2012 13:30 Zona wrote:On January 07 2012 13:29 RelZo wrote:The problem is, that after this game ppl will keep saying that Best has a good PvZ when he doesn't. Hoejja was just bad Well I guess owning Jaedong this season doesn't count for anything either, right? jaedong isn't on his game vs p. Not a good exapmple Hydra, however, is a good example what has the world become, hydra being the benchmark for good zerg The guy's pretty good nowadays. And starleague winner and all that. Hydra never won a starleague. except the msl over great... http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Starleague
sigh... i never tire of you pulling out that card.
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On January 07 2012 13:46 Kipsate wrote:
At the end of the day we have
Flash V SoO - Roflstomp
Action - Hyuk - ZvZ, but a pretty decent one, didn't mind this one.
Bisu - Wooki - (-.-)
Best - Hoejja (this could have been awesome, but it was meh).
So dissapointing.
Blame KT for their lack of depth then. If they didn't only have 2 good players, they wouldn't have to keep saving them for the match that never happens.
We've been robbed of fantasy v flash and fantasy v stats cuz KT zergs can't win a single game 
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Bah, we don't have to drink the OGN koolaid.
Individual league victory.
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SKT winning KT lol
All is well and expected except one thing: Best winning PvZs
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On January 07 2012 13:47 Harem wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2012 13:46 Cambium wrote:On January 07 2012 13:45 Harem wrote:On January 07 2012 13:44 Zona wrote:On January 07 2012 13:36 friendbg wrote:On January 07 2012 13:33 Dakkas wrote:On January 07 2012 13:33 friendbg wrote:On January 07 2012 13:30 Zona wrote:On January 07 2012 13:29 RelZo wrote:The problem is, that after this game ppl will keep saying that Best has a good PvZ when he doesn't. Hoejja was just bad Well I guess owning Jaedong this season doesn't count for anything either, right? jaedong isn't on his game vs p. Not a good exapmple Hydra, however, is a good example what has the world become, hydra being the benchmark for good zerg The guy's pretty good nowadays. And starleague winner and all that. Hydra never won a starleague. except the msl over great... http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Starleague
gg wp.
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On January 07 2012 13:48 alypse wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2012 13:45 Harem wrote:On January 07 2012 13:44 Zona wrote:On January 07 2012 13:36 friendbg wrote:On January 07 2012 13:33 Dakkas wrote:On January 07 2012 13:33 friendbg wrote:On January 07 2012 13:30 Zona wrote:On January 07 2012 13:29 RelZo wrote:The problem is, that after this game ppl will keep saying that Best has a good PvZ when he doesn't. Hoejja was just bad Well I guess owning Jaedong this season doesn't count for anything either, right? jaedong isn't on his game vs p. Not a good exapmple Hydra, however, is a good example what has the world become, hydra being the benchmark for good zerg The guy's pretty good nowadays. And starleague winner and all that. Hydra never won a starleague. Wonder how many ppl will walk into this trap...
That's why he has a hammer^^
SWAG!
Sexy ACE walking in, thread migration?
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On another note, I am extremely glad that Bisu finally learned from God how to properly cheese.
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On January 07 2012 13:48 Kiett wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2012 13:46 Kipsate wrote:
At the end of the day we have
Flash V SoO - Roflstomp
Action - Hyuk - ZvZ, but a pretty decent one, didn't mind this one.
Bisu - Wooki - (-.-)
Best - Hoejja (this could have been awesome, but it was meh).
So dissapointing.
Blame KT for their lack of depth then. If they didn't only have 2 good players, they wouldn't have to keep saving them for the match that never happens. We've been robbed of fantasy v flash and fantasy v stats cuz KT zergs can't win a single game
We've been robbed of fantasy v flash and fantasy v stats cuz Bisu learned how to cheese from Flash. =)
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On January 07 2012 13:47 Harem wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2012 13:46 Cambium wrote:On January 07 2012 13:45 Harem wrote:On January 07 2012 13:44 Zona wrote:On January 07 2012 13:36 friendbg wrote:On January 07 2012 13:33 Dakkas wrote:On January 07 2012 13:33 friendbg wrote:On January 07 2012 13:30 Zona wrote:On January 07 2012 13:29 RelZo wrote:The problem is, that after this game ppl will keep saying that Best has a good PvZ when he doesn't. Hoejja was just bad Well I guess owning Jaedong this season doesn't count for anything either, right? jaedong isn't on his game vs p. Not a good exapmple Hydra, however, is a good example what has the world become, hydra being the benchmark for good zerg The guy's pretty good nowadays. And starleague winner and all that. Hydra never won a starleague. except the msl over great... http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Starleague
Well, you got me.
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On January 07 2012 13:47 Harem wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2012 13:46 Cambium wrote:On January 07 2012 13:45 Harem wrote:On January 07 2012 13:44 Zona wrote:On January 07 2012 13:36 friendbg wrote:On January 07 2012 13:33 Dakkas wrote:On January 07 2012 13:33 friendbg wrote:On January 07 2012 13:30 Zona wrote:On January 07 2012 13:29 RelZo wrote:The problem is, that after this game ppl will keep saying that Best has a good PvZ when he doesn't. Hoejja was just bad Well I guess owning Jaedong this season doesn't count for anything either, right? jaedong isn't on his game vs p. Not a good exapmple Hydra, however, is a good example what has the world become, hydra being the benchmark for good zerg The guy's pretty good nowadays. And starleague winner and all that. Hydra never won a starleague. except the msl over great... http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Starleague
Saw this one coming a mile away... hook line and sinker.
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On January 07 2012 13:51 sviatoslavrichter wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2012 13:48 Kiett wrote:On January 07 2012 13:46 Kipsate wrote:
At the end of the day we have
Flash V SoO - Roflstomp
Action - Hyuk - ZvZ, but a pretty decent one, didn't mind this one.
Bisu - Wooki - (-.-)
Best - Hoejja (this could have been awesome, but it was meh).
So dissapointing.
Blame KT for their lack of depth then. If they didn't only have 2 good players, they wouldn't have to keep saving them for the match that never happens. We've been robbed of fantasy v flash and fantasy v stats cuz KT zergs can't win a single game We've been robbed of fantasy v flash and fantasy v stats cuz Bisu learned how to cheese from Flash. =)
Bro, Bisu was cheesin fools into retirement years ago.
And I meant, providing everyone still tries their hardest to win (Bisu and Best aren't going to throw their games for your amusement), all it would have taken to see those matches would be ONE KT Zerg win. But they just couldn't do it lol. They're 0-5 against SKT this season.
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On January 07 2012 13:42 sviatoslavrichter wrote:
Man, coach should not have sent Flash out first. Flash set 2, Stats set 4, and Action set 1 would have gotten them the MUs on the right maps to win it. Have no idea what the coach was thinking
Yea, after watching the game you say "Coach should have sent out players XYZ on map ABC" etc.. Geez get real. Clairvoyance isn't a prereq for a coach.
And like the other guy mentioned, a T out on Outlier is.. highly unlikely.. Mind was the only one, and thus an.. outlier :p
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On January 07 2012 13:55 Kiett wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2012 13:51 sviatoslavrichter wrote:On January 07 2012 13:48 Kiett wrote:On January 07 2012 13:46 Kipsate wrote:
At the end of the day we have
Flash V SoO - Roflstomp
Action - Hyuk - ZvZ, but a pretty decent one, didn't mind this one.
Bisu - Wooki - (-.-)
Best - Hoejja (this could have been awesome, but it was meh).
So dissapointing.
Blame KT for their lack of depth then. If they didn't only have 2 good players, they wouldn't have to keep saving them for the match that never happens. We've been robbed of fantasy v flash and fantasy v stats cuz KT zergs can't win a single game We've been robbed of fantasy v flash and fantasy v stats cuz Bisu learned how to cheese from Flash. =) Bro, Bisu was cheesin fools into retirement years ago. And I meant, providing everyone still tries their hardest to win (Bisu and Best aren't going to throw their games for your amusement), all it would have taken to see those matches would be ONE KT Zerg win. But they just couldn't do it lol
repeat it 10 times more please
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On January 07 2012 13:55 Kiett wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2012 13:51 sviatoslavrichter wrote:On January 07 2012 13:48 Kiett wrote:On January 07 2012 13:46 Kipsate wrote:
At the end of the day we have
Flash V SoO - Roflstomp
Action - Hyuk - ZvZ, but a pretty decent one, didn't mind this one.
Bisu - Wooki - (-.-)
Best - Hoejja (this could have been awesome, but it was meh).
So dissapointing.
Blame KT for their lack of depth then. If they didn't only have 2 good players, they wouldn't have to keep saving them for the match that never happens. We've been robbed of fantasy v flash and fantasy v stats cuz KT zergs can't win a single game We've been robbed of fantasy v flash and fantasy v stats cuz Bisu learned how to cheese from Flash. =) Bro, Bisu was cheesin fools into retirement years ago. And I meant, providing everyone still tries their hardest to win (Bisu and Best aren't going to throw their games for your amusement), all it would have taken to see those matches would be ONE KT Zerg win. But they just couldn't do it lol
and wtf, why would people assume bisu would've lost had he not cheesed...? if anything cheesing put him at much higher risk of losing =/
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Aaaah, KT versus SKT is always biggest fanboy matchup, I love it. Daymu I'm so tired, but I'll still stay up to watch ggaemo face JD,,,, and laugh.
Hmmm, write battle reports, battle reports of my night out, PM Kipsate about Fantasy fanfic, NaDa's Body song, blog series, another blog series, another blog series..... nah Imma lay back and relax. Korean commentators screaming is the most relaxing thing in the world to me, puts me right to sleep (: (: <3 u guise
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On January 07 2012 13:58 bITt.mAN wrote:
Aaaah, KT versus SKT is always biggest fanboy matchup, I love it. Daymu I'm so tired, but I'll still stay up to watch ggaemo face JD,,,, and laugh.
Hmmm, write battle reports, battle reports of my night out, PM Kipsate about Fantasy fanfic, NaDa's Body song, blog series, another blog series, another blog series..... nah Imma lay back and relax. Korean commentators screaming is the most relaxing thing in the world to me, puts me right to sleep (: (: <3 u guise
Yeah well about that...haha...
Europeans staying strong! Sleep is for Terrans!
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