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On January 07 2012 13:40 elagrion wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2012 13:30 hacklebeast wrote:On January 07 2012 13:29 X10A wrote:
July, please come back and show Best he's not even close to being good at PvZ
Please? TT YOU BITE YOUR TONGUE Why? I would love to see another in-form tushin vs best finals =). But not gonna happen =(
that was the worst finals the osl has ever had, and should be stricken from the record, and the golden mouse reposesed. July shouldn't have even gotten there but was lucky enough to face backho and then rock. The fucking rock. How the hell did he even make it to the Ro4??? AAARRRGGHH
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On January 07 2012 13:42 Zona wrote:
Hoejja burned a lot of his economic potential with the early mass of burrowing lings, so even his attempt to mass hydralisks was pretty unimpressive
Hoejja got sent out on the wrong map for ZvP. He should have been played in set 3
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On January 07 2012 13:42 sviatoslavrichter wrote:
Man, coach should not have sent Flash out first. Flash set 2, Stats set 4, and Action set 1 would have gotten them the MUs on the right maps to win it. Have no idea what the coach was thinking
Coach Park on SKT has a pretty good record of being able to read other coaches and get favourable matches. Might have also been worried about getting Flash sniped.
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On January 07 2012 13:42 sviatoslavrichter wrote:
Man, coach should not have sent Flash out first. Flash set 2, Stats set 4, and Action set 1 would have gotten them the MUs on the right maps to win it. Have no idea what the coach was thinking
There's a reason Terrans don't get sent out on Outlier. I hope you understand that.
I know he's Flash, but this map is HELL.
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On January 07 2012 13:43 hacklebeast wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2012 13:40 elagrion wrote:On January 07 2012 13:30 hacklebeast wrote:On January 07 2012 13:29 X10A wrote:
July, please come back and show Best he's not even close to being good at PvZ
Please? TT YOU BITE YOUR TONGUE Why? I would love to see another in-form tushin vs best finals =). But not gonna happen =( that was the worst finals the osl has ever had, and should be stricken from the record, and the golden mouse reposesed. July shouldn't have even gotten there but was lucky enough to face backho and then rock. The fucking rock. How the hell did he even make it to the Ro4??? AAARRRGGHH
Hey, don't you dare hate on the God of War!
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in regards to Bisu vs Wooki, Wooki actually would've had a huge advantage that game had he built a forge for a cannon to stop the advancement of cannons to his expo. With that one cannon, he'd be free to build up his probe count and the necessary units to kill the 2 cannons at his main, giving himself a better econ and tech over Bisu.
Everything is 20/20 in hindsight though. Basically, Protosses only need to scout for Brave's variation of Cannon rush, as that one is impossible to beat once the cannons are up. Bisu's variation is easily blocked once you think of the counter
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On January 07 2012 13:36 friendbg wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2012 13:33 Dakkas wrote:On January 07 2012 13:33 friendbg wrote:On January 07 2012 13:30 Zona wrote:On January 07 2012 13:29 RelZo wrote:The problem is, that after this game ppl will keep saying that Best has a good PvZ when he doesn't. Hoejja was just bad  Well I guess owning Jaedong this season doesn't count for anything either, right? jaedong isn't on his game vs p. Not a good exapmple Hydra, however, is a good example what has the world become, hydra being the benchmark for good zerg
The guy's pretty good nowadays.
And starleague winner and all that.
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On January 07 2012 13:41 sviatoslavrichter wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2012 13:39 BLinD-RawR wrote:On January 07 2012 13:37 Spica wrote:
KT tears so delicious, so many mad KT fans
Great day to be a SKT fan today
Thanks to BLinD-RawR for making the LR thread and to all the awesome streamers as usual! I'd put in a huge obnoxious T1 pic as usual after winning against KT, but I think KT has faced enough humiliation today~ we lost. I don't feel humiliated at all. until next time SKT. Haha, until the finals, SKT. Until the finals.
It's good to have the confidence that your team can have a chance at the playoffs.
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On January 07 2012 13:44 Zona wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2012 13:36 friendbg wrote:On January 07 2012 13:33 Dakkas wrote:On January 07 2012 13:33 friendbg wrote:On January 07 2012 13:30 Zona wrote:On January 07 2012 13:29 RelZo wrote:The problem is, that after this game ppl will keep saying that Best has a good PvZ when he doesn't. Hoejja was just bad Well I guess owning Jaedong this season doesn't count for anything either, right? jaedong isn't on his game vs p. Not a good exapmple Hydra, however, is a good example what has the world become, hydra being the benchmark for good zerg The guy's pretty good nowadays. And starleague winner and all that.
Hydra never won a starleague.
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KT needs one more reliable player in addition to Stats and Flash, possibly two.
T1's got BBF who are all very capable of all three match ups (apparently best learned PvZ somewhat), with Hyuk, Soo and Sun for kickers, T1's got a much deeper team now that there's no Ace match.
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On January 07 2012 13:37 Cambium wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2012 13:32 cmen15 wrote:
gg Just wondering big bw nub here : ) why didn't Hoejja make spores anywhere? Does putting some down hurt the eco that bad? thx the game didn't go as hoejja planned. typically, yes, zerg players would build spores for detection and protection from air. also, zerg would typically build mutas and scourges and fight for air control hoejja seemed to have planned for a low econ all-in-esque hydra bust, and was therefore running a very tight economy however, his plan got completely foiled by best's harassing sairs and DTs. Even though the DTs did not get many drone kills, they delayed mining quite significantly multiple times (causing the drones to burrow), as well as messed up hoejja's timing. further, best was completely prepared for the hydra bust with cannons and HTs, so there was actually no timing for hoejja since he was severely delayed by the sairs and DTs.
cool cool thanks for the write up : ) <3
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At the end of the day we have
Flash V SoO - Roflstomp
Action - Hyuk - ZvZ, but a pretty decent one, didn't mind this one.
Bisu - Wooki - (-.-)
Best - Hoejja (this could have been awesome, but it was meh).
So dissapointing.
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On January 07 2012 13:44 ArvickHero wrote:
in regards to Bisu vs Wooki, Wooki actually would've had a huge advantage that game had he built a forge for a cannon to stop the advancement of cannons to his expo. With that one cannon, he'd be free to build up his probe count and the necessary units to kill the 2 cannons at his main, giving himself a better econ and tech over Bisu.
Everything is 20/20 in hindsight though. Basically, Protosses only need to scout for Brave's variation of Cannon rush, as that one is impossible to beat once the cannons are up. Bisu's variation is easily blocked once you think of the counter
Khan's variation is much cleaner and versatile, is that what you are saying?
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Ok, now iam a little bit blaming Bisu for cheesing, This night could use a one more close and at least a bit epic game.
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On January 07 2012 13:45 Harem wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2012 13:44 Zona wrote:On January 07 2012 13:36 friendbg wrote:On January 07 2012 13:33 Dakkas wrote:On January 07 2012 13:33 friendbg wrote:On January 07 2012 13:30 Zona wrote:On January 07 2012 13:29 RelZo wrote:The problem is, that after this game ppl will keep saying that Best has a good PvZ when he doesn't. Hoejja was just bad Well I guess owning Jaedong this season doesn't count for anything either, right? jaedong isn't on his game vs p. Not a good exapmple Hydra, however, is a good example what has the world become, hydra being the benchmark for good zerg The guy's pretty good nowadays. And starleague winner and all that. Hydra never won a starleague.
except the msl over great...
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On January 07 2012 13:45 Harem wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2012 13:44 Zona wrote:On January 07 2012 13:36 friendbg wrote:On January 07 2012 13:33 Dakkas wrote:On January 07 2012 13:33 friendbg wrote:On January 07 2012 13:30 Zona wrote:On January 07 2012 13:29 RelZo wrote:The problem is, that after this game ppl will keep saying that Best has a good PvZ when he doesn't. Hoejja was just bad Well I guess owning Jaedong this season doesn't count for anything either, right? jaedong isn't on his game vs p. Not a good exapmple Hydra, however, is a good example what has the world become, hydra being the benchmark for good zerg The guy's pretty good nowadays. And starleague winner and all that. Hydra never won a starleague.
MBCGame Starleague?
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On January 07 2012 13:46 Cambium wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2012 13:45 Harem wrote:On January 07 2012 13:44 Zona wrote:On January 07 2012 13:36 friendbg wrote:On January 07 2012 13:33 Dakkas wrote:On January 07 2012 13:33 friendbg wrote:On January 07 2012 13:30 Zona wrote:On January 07 2012 13:29 RelZo wrote:The problem is, that after this game ppl will keep saying that Best has a good PvZ when he doesn't. Hoejja was just bad Well I guess owning Jaedong this season doesn't count for anything either, right? jaedong isn't on his game vs p. Not a good exapmple Hydra, however, is a good example what has the world become, hydra being the benchmark for good zerg The guy's pretty good nowadays. And starleague winner and all that. Hydra never won a starleague. except the msl over great...
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Starleague
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On January 07 2012 13:44 Dakkas wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2012 13:43 hacklebeast wrote:On January 07 2012 13:40 elagrion wrote:On January 07 2012 13:30 hacklebeast wrote:On January 07 2012 13:29 X10A wrote:
July, please come back and show Best he's not even close to being good at PvZ
Please? TT YOU BITE YOUR TONGUE Why? I would love to see another in-form tushin vs best finals =). But not gonna happen =( that was the worst finals the osl has ever had, and should be stricken from the record, and the golden mouse reposesed. July shouldn't have even gotten there but was lucky enough to face backho and then rock. The fucking rock. How the hell did he even make it to the Ro4??? AAARRRGGHH Hey, don't you dare hate on the God of War!
July should not be allowed to have positive nick names. Acceptable nick names would be fat zerg, or watermelon zerg, or I-can't-fit-into-the-booth zerg.
I also think we should change the name of the month to divorce it from his infamy.
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On January 07 2012 13:43 hacklebeast wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2012 13:40 elagrion wrote:On January 07 2012 13:30 hacklebeast wrote:On January 07 2012 13:29 X10A wrote:
July, please come back and show Best he's not even close to being good at PvZ
Please? TT YOU BITE YOUR TONGUE Why? I would love to see another in-form tushin vs best finals =). But not gonna happen =( that was the worst finals the osl has ever had, and should be stricken from the record, and the golden mouse reposesed. July shouldn't have even gotten there but was lucky enough to face backho and then rock. The fucking rock. How the hell did he even make it to the Ro4??? AAARRRGGHH
What dude? That finals was awesome man.
On another note well played SKT, we'll get you guys next time. More air in the SKT bubble~ j/k <3
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On January 07 2012 13:45 Cambium wrote:
KT needs one more reliable player in addition to Stats and Flash, possibly two.
T1's got BBF who are all very capable of all three match ups (apparently best learned PvZ somewhat), with Hyuk, Soo and Sun for kickers, T1's got a much deeper team now that there's no Ace match.
I really hoped to see more of Mind...
On January 07 2012 13:46 Cambium wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2012 13:45 Harem wrote:On January 07 2012 13:44 Zona wrote:On January 07 2012 13:36 friendbg wrote:On January 07 2012 13:33 Dakkas wrote:On January 07 2012 13:33 friendbg wrote:On January 07 2012 13:30 Zona wrote:On January 07 2012 13:29 RelZo wrote:The problem is, that after this game ppl will keep saying that Best has a good PvZ when he doesn't. Hoejja was just bad Well I guess owning Jaedong this season doesn't count for anything either, right? jaedong isn't on his game vs p. Not a good exapmple Hydra, however, is a good example what has the world become, hydra being the benchmark for good zerg The guy's pretty good nowadays. And starleague winner and all that. Hydra never won a starleague. except the msl over great...
It's a semantics thing...i guess...
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