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poisui
Profile Joined July 2011
1088 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-28 09:52:08
December 28 2011 09:46 GMT
#1541
On December 28 2011 18:43 TheShimmy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2011 18:42 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On December 28 2011 18:41 jaQi wrote:
This feels absolutely wrong, Bogus had deserved the win


Explain to me how Bogus deserved the win.


He played his guts out despite being at a disadvantage THE WHOLE GAME.

He could've gg'ed at least twice earlier, but made an epic game out of it and almost pulled it off.

That is the definition of the Fantasy Timing.

Dragging out a game ≠ deserving to win.
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
December 28 2011 09:46 GMT
#1542
What happened, STX?
Where are all those cheeses and timing pushes that carried you through vs SKT? Where did they go?
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
December 28 2011 09:46 GMT
#1543
so KT now on 3 games winning streak. Good. Good
zeehar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Korea (South)3804 Posts
December 28 2011 09:46 GMT
#1544
On December 28 2011 18:43 TheShimmy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2011 18:42 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On December 28 2011 18:41 jaQi wrote:
This feels absolutely wrong, Bogus had deserved the win


Explain to me how Bogus deserved the win.


He played his guts out despite being at a disadvantage THE WHOLE GAME.

He could've gg'ed at least twice earlier, but made an epic game out of it and almost pulled it off.


how did he get the disadvantage in the first place? did kespa give stats a handicap? stats completely outplayed him in the early game and then threw away units in the midgame. bogus defended well, but his decision making was questionable many times.
I AM THE UNIVERSAL CONSTANT
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
December 28 2011 09:46 GMT
#1545
On December 28 2011 18:43 TheShimmy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2011 18:42 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On December 28 2011 18:41 jaQi wrote:
This feels absolutely wrong, Bogus had deserved the win


Explain to me how Bogus deserved the win.


He played his guts out despite being at a disadvantage THE WHOLE GAME.

He could've gg'ed at least twice earlier, but made an epic game out of it and almost pulled it off.


So why should Stats lose after playing well enough to get the advantage? Bogus wasn't as good today, so he lost. I don't get the argument "Bogus tried really hard!" Do you think Stats was half-assing it?
Remember Violet.
NicksonReyes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Philippines4431 Posts
December 28 2011 09:46 GMT
#1546
On December 28 2011 18:43 TheShimmy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2011 18:42 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On December 28 2011 18:41 jaQi wrote:
This feels absolutely wrong, Bogus had deserved the win


Explain to me how Bogus deserved the win.


He played his guts out despite being at a disadvantage THE WHOLE GAME.

He could've gg'ed at least twice earlier, but made an epic game out of it and almost pulled it off.

But it's his fault why he had a 50 supply disadvantage. He'd deserve to win if he played well at the start of the game.
"Start yo" -FlaSh
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51623 Posts
December 28 2011 09:47 GMT
#1547
On December 28 2011 18:46 Lightwip wrote:
What happened, STX?
Where are all those cheeses and timing pushes that carried you through vs SKT? Where did they go?


lol how bitter.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Eun_Star
Profile Joined April 2010
United States322 Posts
December 28 2011 09:47 GMT
#1548
Considering the map statistics (& opponent), Bogus played fantastic. However, he didn't "deserve" the win. He had an extremely close comeback, but Stats won in the end...you don't "deserve" the win unless you outplayed your opponent, which is clearly not the case here. You don't outplay your opponent and lose
Taekwon
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8155 Posts
December 28 2011 09:47 GMT
#1549
On December 28 2011 18:44 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2011 18:43 Taekwon wrote:
On December 28 2011 18:41 jaQi wrote:
This feels absolutely wrong, Bogus had deserved the win


Absolutely.


I'm seeing a whole new face to STX fans....one which has no eyes.


kk ad homs, nothing new.
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Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
December 28 2011 09:47 GMT
#1550
On December 28 2011 18:46 BLinD-RawR wrote:
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On December 28 2011 18:44 figq wrote:
KT vs KHAN is gonna be fun


gogo 4 game win streak!

Flash vs Jangbi
Hoejja vs Stork
Stats vs roro
Action vs reality
Wooki vs shine

One could hope for these lineups..
In the woods, there lurks..
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
December 28 2011 09:47 GMT
#1551
Lol what is this about someone 'deserving' to win. Unless you win a game because your opponent typed pp, the player who won deserved the win. Bogus thoroughly outplayed Stats in the midgame, but that doesn't make up for Stats crushing Bogus in the early game and outmaneuvering Bogus at the end.
Winechu
Profile Joined May 2011
Singapore1186 Posts
December 28 2011 09:47 GMT
#1552
Let's not get into a "who deserved to win" derp argument. It's a waste of time. That was a great game, go watch it again. Should be up on esportstv pretty quick.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
December 28 2011 09:47 GMT
#1553
Bogus lost that game eventually due to no recall defense at his main, however he played a pretty good game and I am almost certain that he is one of the best TvP's except for Fantasy and Flash.
WriterXiao8~~
o[twist]
Profile Joined May 2008
United States4903 Posts
December 28 2011 09:48 GMT
#1554
how the hell does this thread turn so bitter so quickly after such a good game? could you all shut the hell up about who deserved the win, what a stupid damn word, and talk about how fucking well both of those players played?
Winechu
Profile Joined May 2011
Singapore1186 Posts
December 28 2011 09:49 GMT
#1555
On December 28 2011 18:47 Kipsate wrote:
Bogus lost that game eventually due to no recall defense at his main, however he played a pretty good game and I am almost certain that he is one of the best TvP's except for Fantasy and Flash.


Agree completely. He's only behind fantasy and Flash IMO.
Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
December 28 2011 09:49 GMT
#1556
On December 28 2011 18:48 o[twist] wrote:
how the hell does this thread turn so bitter so quickly after such a good game? could you all shut the hell up about who deserved the win, what a stupid damn word, and talk about how fucking well both of those players played?

I wish there were more people like you
Because when you left, Brood War was all spotlights and titans. Now, with the death of the big leagues, Brood War has moved to the basements and carparks. Now, Brood War is unlicensed brawls, lost teeth, and bloody fights for fistfulls of money - SirJolt
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
December 28 2011 09:49 GMT
#1557
Yeah, I thought we were all done with the "who deserved the win" argument long time ago.
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
December 28 2011 09:49 GMT
#1558
It's not fair Stats played really well too.
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
jaQi
Profile Joined December 2010
1121 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-28 09:51:18
December 28 2011 09:50 GMT
#1559
Okay too many ppl to quote them all ^^

For me Bogus played better, the early aggression by Stats threw Bogus far behind, Stats got arbiter big army and Bogus defended that really sick with his few tanks and sacrificed many scv's, but this defend was really impressive. Then he had to struggle on one base and all the time I thought he is dead and will lose this game, but he showed a big heart and great skill. Stats should have won the game earlier, also his DT's at the beginning were absolutely senseless, he was building an arbiter anyway.

Concluding: I think he deserves the win more, because he impressed me more, with staying alive while I thought he was dead all the time.


edit: Before I forget this, of course I voted YES !! Nevertheless it was a really really sick game!!! By both of them, I just wished the outcome was another.
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10396 Posts
December 28 2011 09:50 GMT
#1560
On December 28 2011 18:47 Kipsate wrote:
Bogus lost that game eventually due to no recall defense at his main, however he played a pretty good game and I am almost certain that he is one of the best TvP's except for Fantasy and Flash.

When those mines inexplicably didn't kill everything (as always happens to me, and, well, almost every recall I've ever seen), I knew that it was bad news bears. One of those "if only..." that would have certainly handed Bogus a huge advantage. He had a passable defense, something that works most of the time, even without turrets.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
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