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jaQi
Profile Joined December 2010
1121 Posts
December 28 2011 10:01 GMT
#1581
On December 28 2011 18:57 Sawamura wrote:
Thanks jaqi for being a sore loser



lol it is always easier to stay on the bright side plus I did not lose anything, just feel very sad for Bogus.
Jindo
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1305 Posts
December 28 2011 10:03 GMT
#1582
How is Stats in individual league?
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
December 28 2011 10:03 GMT
#1583
On December 28 2011 19:00 o[twist] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2011 18:58 Kipsate wrote:
On December 28 2011 18:55 o[twist] wrote:
On December 28 2011 18:52 Kipsate wrote:
On December 28 2011 18:50 Jealous wrote:
On December 28 2011 18:47 Kipsate wrote:
Bogus lost that game eventually due to no recall defense at his main, however he played a pretty good game and I am almost certain that he is one of the best TvP's except for Fantasy and Flash.

When those mines inexplicably didn't kill everything (as always happens to me, and, well, almost every recall I've ever seen), I knew that it was bad news bears. One of those "if only..." that would have certainly handed Bogus a huge advantage. He had a passable defense, something that works most of the time, even without turrets.


He had to move his army back all the way, he should have(but now we get in should have arguments) a Science vessel out there incase of EMPs, he even saw it coming(as he already pulled his army back) so he could have EMPed it, but no Science Vessel was near (or they were all killed).

Still he played an amazing game(with incredibly defense in the midgame) and you got to give credit where its due to him.


it's very hard for bogus. he has to defend the center base (which is very hard) and has to defend 6:00. it's very easy for him to forget about the main. i don't blame him for bunching up his science vessels in the middle since a recall there would have been ridiculously deadly due to the tank formation he had to have. he had good recall defense with the mines and it just didn't quite work, and the distance between the main and the center was just too much

I don't blame him, its what seperates the good from the great(Bogus from Flash/Fantasy), TvP is incredibly hard especially against a player of Stats his caliber and he played an amazing game, I thought he lost it after the early game harass but he clawed himself back in very impressivly.


it was very, very impressive. overall i think bogus has the two most impressive losses in the season (probably the two best games of the season, too)

Yeah his game vs soulkey was amzing too
In the woods, there lurks..
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
December 28 2011 10:03 GMT
#1584
On December 28 2011 19:01 jaQi wrote:
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On December 28 2011 18:57 Sawamura wrote:
Thanks jaqi for being a sore loser



lol it is always easier to stay on the bright side plus I did not lose anything, just feel very sad for Bogus.


Yes now I am feeling sad for stats even losing his first attack on bogus third , if he didn't screw up his micro we wouldn't be having this discussion now . But live is perfect , we don't make mistakes and mis-micro doesn't happen always isn't it ?
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
December 28 2011 10:03 GMT
#1585
On December 28 2011 19:03 Jindo wrote:
How is Stats in individual league?


terribad in individual leagues.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21243 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-28 10:05:20
December 28 2011 10:04 GMT
#1586
why is the concept of "deserving" a win even a thing wtf? if you dont win you dont deserve it fuck. that's like shit skt fans say -___-

enjoy a good game and quit bitching ;d
TranslatorBaa!
o[twist]
Profile Joined May 2008
United States4903 Posts
December 28 2011 10:04 GMT
#1587
man i keep listening to stats's song, it's great

people should really put together some highlight vids for players with their chosen songs, i'd watch them over and over and over
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-28 10:06:23
December 28 2011 10:06 GMT
#1588
On December 28 2011 19:03 Jindo wrote:
How is Stats in individual league?

...

Like Bisu currently?

Guy is like a PL monster but he never got anywhere in the individuals.
WriterXiao8~~
jaQi
Profile Joined December 2010
1121 Posts
December 28 2011 10:06 GMT
#1589
On December 28 2011 18:59 poisui wrote:
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On December 28 2011 18:50 jaQi wrote:
Okay too many ppl to quote them all ^^

For me Bogus played better, the early aggression by Stats threw Bogus far behind, Stats got arbiter big army and Bogus defended that really sick with his few tanks and sacrificed many scv's, but this defend was really impressive. Then he had to struggle on one base and all the time I thought he is dead and will lose this game, but he showed a big heart and great skill. Stats should have won the game earlier, also his DT's at the beginning were absolutely senseless, he was building an arbiter anyway.

Concluding: I think he deserves the win more, because he impressed me more, with staying alive while I thought he was dead all the time.


edit: Before I forget this, of course I voted YES !! Nevertheless it was a really really sick game!!! By both of them, I just wished the outcome was another.

Lolwut. This is such a loser's argument. You can whine all you want but the outcome is final-- Stats destroyed Bogus.

Do you not understand how bias you are being by ignoring how well Stats played?



Sure, it is because of sympathy, but that is the key of being a fan of someone. Otherwise we will forced to be Flashfanbois.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
December 28 2011 10:06 GMT
#1590
On December 28 2011 19:04 o[twist] wrote:
man i keep listening to stats's song, it's great

people should really put together some highlight vids


stopped reading here, rest of it doesn't matter, highlight vids are the best....hopefully someone makes pimpest plays 2011.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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jaQi
Profile Joined December 2010
1121 Posts
December 28 2011 10:10 GMT
#1591
On December 28 2011 19:03 Sawamura wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2011 19:01 jaQi wrote:
On December 28 2011 18:57 Sawamura wrote:
Thanks jaqi for being a sore loser



lol it is always easier to stay on the bright side plus I did not lose anything, just feel very sad for Bogus.


Yes now I am feeling sad for stats even losing his first attack on bogus third , if he didn't screw up his micro we wouldn't be having this discussion now . But live is perfect , we don't make mistakes and mis-micro doesn't happen always isn't it ?


Thats not the point. Maybe I should have not said "Bogus deserves the win (more for me)" and instead said "I was hoping Bogus would win this game". This would maybe avoid this drama.
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
December 28 2011 10:12 GMT
#1592
It's like saying Jack nicklaus didn't deserve to win because arnold palmer hit a bad tee shot and yet was able to par and jack nicklaus in the middle of fair way hits his shot with laser like accuracy , putting a nice 4 footer for a birdie and he birdies to win the masters ? . I could say jack doesn't deserve to win it because arnold palmer made a simple mistake that he shouldn't make from the first shot because of his early mistake that put him well behind . Because I am a arnold palmer fan .

What does that make me ? This is a game who plays better win , I do have sympathy but the out come is final stats won over bogus today .
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
FuRong
Profile Joined April 2010
New Zealand3089 Posts
December 28 2011 10:12 GMT
#1593
Great last game.
Don't hate the player, hate the game
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
December 28 2011 10:13 GMT
#1594
On December 28 2011 19:12 Sawamura wrote:
It's like saying Jack nicklaus didn't deserve to win because arnold palmer hit a bad tee shot and yet was able to par and jack nicklaus in the middle of fair way hits his shot with laser like accuracy , putting a nice 4 footer for a birdie and he birdies to win the masters ? . I could say jack doesn't deserve to win it because arnold palmer made a simple mistake that he shouldn't make from the first shot because of his early mistake that put him well behind . Because I am a arnold palmer fan .

What does that make me ? This is a game who plays better win , I do have sympathy but the out come is final stats won over bogus today .

Stop trying to stir up shit, he is done, let it rest.
WriterXiao8~~
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-28 10:14:47
December 28 2011 10:14 GMT
#1595
On December 28 2011 19:12 Sawamura wrote:
It's like saying Jack nicklaus didn't deserve to win because arnold palmer hit a bad tee shot and yet was able to par and jack nicklaus in the middle of fair way hits his shot with laser like accuracy , putting a nice 4 footer for a birdie and he birdies to win the masters ? . I could say jack doesn't deserve to win it because arnold palmer made a simple mistake that he shouldn't make from the first shot because of his early mistake that put him well behind . Because I am a arnold palmer fan .

What does that make me ? This is a game who plays better win , I do have sympathy but the out come is final stats won over bogus today .


please stop.

its over.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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Winechu
Profile Joined May 2011
Singapore1186 Posts
December 28 2011 10:19 GMT
#1596
I think Stats needs to be the #1 toss for the coming PR.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
December 28 2011 10:21 GMT
#1597
On December 28 2011 19:19 Winechu wrote:
I think Stats needs to be the #1 toss for the coming PR.


yeah its between him and stork though...
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TL+ Member
mustaju
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Estonia4504 Posts
December 28 2011 10:23 GMT
#1598
I honestly get where JaQi is coming from. As a STX fan, that game was both awesome but also sad because it was a desperate attempt to stay in the match. While I won't comment on the game itself, I will say I'm proud of my team today. They played their hearts out in every game and I could feel it. It's sad it ended that way, but the sadness is easily overshadowed by the feeling of hope that has come back.
WriterBrows somewhat high. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndFysO2JunE
o[twist]
Profile Joined May 2008
United States4903 Posts
December 28 2011 10:27 GMT
#1599
On December 28 2011 19:23 mustaju wrote:
I honestly get where JaQi is coming from. As a STX fan, that game was both awesome but also sad because it was a desperate attempt to stay in the match. While I won't comment on the game itself, I will say I'm proud of my team today. They played their hearts out in every game and I could feel it. It's sad it ended that way, but the sadness is easily overshadowed by the feeling of hope that has come back.


your terrans are certainly playing extraordinarily well

i understand a little bit better why someone would use the word "deserve", too - i didn't realize bogus was freaking 1-4 this season - he's been playing PR-level starcraft.
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
December 28 2011 10:28 GMT
#1600
On December 28 2011 19:03 Jindo wrote:
How is Stats in individual league?


When Stats first started being relevant for KT, he actually had a pretty good run in the MSL in back to back seasons. But he ran into Jaedong because he wasn't ranked that high and then got cheesed out by Calm. Since then he's done nothing but fumble in individual leagues.
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