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JohannesH
Profile Joined September 2009
Finland1364 Posts
August 26 2011 21:44 GMT
#2401
Hmm interview?
If you have to ask, you don't know.
Heimatloser
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany1494 Posts
August 26 2011 22:05 GMT
#2402
so we have a champion bracket and a upset bracket.
but i still hope that one of the underdogs win (jangbang > flash > fantasy, soo > killer > hydra)
All what KT currently needs is a Zerg and a second Terran
hellbound
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2242 Posts
August 26 2011 22:55 GMT
#2403
ZvZ finals for all the haters? Hydra and that other guy, make it happen!
blahblahblahwhatever
Profile Joined June 2011
Armenia52 Posts
August 26 2011 22:55 GMT
#2404
Can we stop talking about how good Fantasy is? Lately his only notable matches against zergs have been against SKT's thickie twins, Hyuk and soO, and I think I'm not the only one who's not convinced that they didn't throw those games. And seriously, the guy was temporarily sent to the b team just a few months ago for sucking too hard. Which is somehow more shameful considering that he won the previous OSL a few months prior to that.

So unless Hydra good eye stops working I don't see how he can lose this.

hellbound
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2242 Posts
August 26 2011 23:11 GMT
#2405
On August 27 2011 07:55 blahblahblahwhatever wrote:
Can we stop talking about how good Fantasy is? Lately his only notable matches against zergs have been against SKT's thickie twins, Hyuk and soO, and I think I'm not the only one who's not convinced that they didn't throw those games. And seriously, the guy was temporarily sent to the b team just a few months ago for sucking too hard. Which is somehow more shameful considering that he won the previous OSL a few months prior to that.

So unless Hydra good eye stops working I don't see how he can lose this.



That is not entirely true, Fantasy's unique TvZ is nothing to scoff at. It is entirely plausible for any zerg to succumb to his "gay" builds. However Hydra is not a good opponent for him in this sense as he is good with low eco games and has strong mutalisk control. On the flip side Fantasy is an S class terran and his standard play might be enough to overpower Hydra's not entirely outstanding ZvT. Imho this match will be decided by strategies and preparation and is something to look forward to indeed.
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4728 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-26 23:45:02
August 26 2011 23:37 GMT
#2406
How can people still underestimate Fantasy this much? He performs exceptionally well in the OSL more often than not. He is not a Proleague-monster like Bisu or Flash, but he is S-class and has been for a long time, and there are not too many players which fall into this category. One gold, two silvers and two semi-final appearances in OSLs alone. Beating Jaedong twice in the PL-grand final in 2009, and pushing Bonjwa-mode-Flash to his very limits during the probably most high-level TvT-series of all time in one MSL-semis last year. This guy is the real deal, just the fact that he cannot control bio properly to save his life does not change this.

Of course, TvZ is not his strong match-up, but the same has to be said about Hydra. And Fantasy's Bo5 preparation has always been exceptional. He is not the underdog here.
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
Warrior Madness
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada3791 Posts
August 26 2011 23:39 GMT
#2407
Long long ago the moon was once an egg. Once there were two moons in the sky and one wandered too close to the sun but it cracked from the heat. Out of it poured a thousand dragons and they drank the sun`s fire. But it is known that the Sun is the hand of God. The fist of God. Giver of warmth, giver of death. Flash. After the dragons drank the fire of the sun they died. One by one. Bisu. Stork. Kal. Best. Free. But they were not real dragons for fire cannot kill a dragon. All hail Jangbi, he is the true blood of dragon, the last dragon. All hail Jangbi, stormbreaker, Godslayer.
The Past: Yellow, Julyzerg, Chojja, Savior, GGplay -- The Present: Luxury, Jae- The Future: -Dong, maGma, Zero, Effort, Hoejja, hyvaa, by.hero, calm, Action ---> SC2 (Ret?? Kolll Idra!! SEN, Cool, ZergBong, Leenock)
Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-27 00:06:21
August 26 2011 23:54 GMT
#2408
On August 27 2011 01:11 Hyde wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2011 00:59 Holgerius wrote:
When was the last time Flash lost a BoX to a Protoss in a Starleague?

2007 Ever OSL, to Stork
that was a loooong time ago, wow

actually no, he lost to bisu in the gom classic season 2 and to bisu again in the korean wcg playoffs in 2009 i think. but yes, it's been almost exactly 2 years since he lost a BoX to a toss. although this does not only have to do with flash's beastly tvp but also with almost no tosses ever even reaching BoX stage of starleagues for the last 2 years....

edit: i just saw that flash has only lost 2 TvT BoX's in his entire career..... and only 4 TvP BoX's during the last 4 years.
"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
pronesc
Profile Joined July 2010
United States31 Posts
August 27 2011 00:14 GMT
#2409
JANGBI WTF WTF WTF. WOOOOOOOOOT
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
August 27 2011 00:14 GMT
#2410
On August 27 2011 08:37 Malinor wrote:
How can people still underestimate Fantasy this much? He performs exceptionally well in the OSL more often than not. He is not a Proleague-monster like Bisu or Flash, but he is S-class and has been for a long time, and there are not too many players which fall into this category. One gold, two silvers and two semi-final appearances in OSLs alone. Beating Jaedong twice in the PL-grand final in 2009, and pushing Bonjwa-mode-Flash to his very limits during the probably most high-level TvT-series of all time in one MSL-semis last year. This guy is the real deal, just the fact that he cannot control bio properly to save his life does not change this.

Of course, TvZ is not his strong match-up, but the same has to be said about Hydra. And Fantasy's Bo5 preparation has always been exceptional. He is not the underdog here.


Fantasy is a great player indeed. So great that one may even call him fantastic!
2014 - ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ Raise your bows brood warriors! ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ
vectorix108
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4633 Posts
August 27 2011 00:16 GMT
#2411
AHHHH JANGBI YESS
Aka XephyR/Shaneyesss
FyRe_DragOn
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada2056 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-27 00:19:41
August 27 2011 00:17 GMT
#2412
OMG JANGBI FUCK EYAH FSDFJSL WH AT THE FUCK NEED TOSEE VODS


my expression clicking on the spoilered results..
-___-
[spoiler] game 2
:o?
[spoiler] game 3
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aka DragOn[NaS]
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
August 27 2011 00:30 GMT
#2413
HOLY SHIT.
Flash lost and Killer lost. The world is upside down. The toilet pees on my pants.
☺
SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
August 27 2011 00:43 GMT
#2414
lol.
The original god shows up and smacks new kid around. lololol.
Huh neu nim~ ( _ _ )
POWER OVERWHELMING ! ! ! KRUU~ KRUU~
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
August 27 2011 00:44 GMT
#2415
On August 27 2011 08:54 Black Gun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2011 01:11 Hyde wrote:
On August 27 2011 00:59 Holgerius wrote:
When was the last time Flash lost a BoX to a Protoss in a Starleague?

2007 Ever OSL, to Stork
that was a loooong time ago, wow

actually no, he lost to bisu in the gom classic season 2 and to bisu again in the korean wcg playoffs in 2009 i think. but yes, it's been almost exactly 2 years since he lost a BoX to a toss. although this does not only have to do with flash's beastly tvp but also with almost no tosses ever even reaching BoX stage of starleagues for the last 2 years....


To be quite fair, there's a big difference between OSL/MSL BoXs and other ones. Especially WCG Korea, which IIRC is generally held in the offseason when players aren't that in shape yet.

In a high stake BoX vP, he's correct. That was when Flash was fairly new and Stork was considered at the time invincible at PvT. And Flash was Stork's whipping boy for quite a while. 2008 came around and Flash destroyed Stork twice in Bo5 to start his fame as the best TvPer in the world.
Meh
Ryusei-R1
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States2106 Posts
August 27 2011 01:00 GMT
#2416
It wasn't worth the trade despite Jangbi winning. I wanted Killer to win this OSL
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Jaedong plz
Random_0
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States1163 Posts
August 27 2011 01:13 GMT
#2417
Wow. Can't believe Flash lost. Flash lost straightup, too. No crazy cheese. Jangbi just found good timings to expand and totally out-macro'ed Flash.

Good for him.
Random_0
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States1163 Posts
August 27 2011 01:15 GMT
#2418
I think in a straightup Bo5, Hydra takes out Fantasy.

But I think that the split format (game 1 played one day, games 2-5 played the next week) favors Fantasy, who's really good at preparing.

Does anyone know which it is?
Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5912 Posts
August 27 2011 01:41 GMT
#2419
Wonder if we will see a toss in the finals? Its been a little bit.
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reincremate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China2216 Posts
August 27 2011 02:03 GMT
#2420
It appears Soo is in possession of the Bonjwa Note.
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