Bio is always more fun than mech! It seems the constant flow of marines are trading their lives all game long! And when one drop or vessels manages to kill few drones, then the zerg does not have enough larva to redrone.

J1.au

Australia3596 Posts

July 27 2011 11:56 GMT

#482

Huh? Flash didn't play that bad apart from losing too many vessels. I don't know what you are all talking about.

gngfn

United States1726 Posts

July 27 2011 11:57 GMT

#483

That game looked a lot better for Shine than it really was because usually, when the Terran gets his midgame army denied as badly as Flash did there, it means an easy fourth gas for the Zerg and subsequent defiler/ultra domination in the lategame. But on Pathfinder, the third doesn't connect with a fourth, and as such the fourth is really easy to deny before it gets running. Shine also poured tons and tons of gas into lurkers and mutas, which delayed his hive tech and limited the hive units he could make even after he got it. Shine never had a big advantage in that game.

5unrise

New Zealand646 Posts

July 27 2011 11:57 GMT

#484

Flash played pretty bad I have to say. If he was facing any other zerg I doubt he'd win. The micro was unenthusiastic and sloppy, especially those of the dropped mnms. He lost so much troops unnecessarily due to failure to split his infantry properly, not to say anything about the horrible vessel control. Also his expansion timings were pretty poor. Of course that was due entirely to his wrist, which must have also distracted him from his strategy. Shine on the other hand played awful, floating 2k+ minerals, losing morphing hatcheries to sloppy drops like ten times, and just failed to spend money in a manner worthy of a pro zerg. He just doesn't seem to have the multi-task to play zerg even semi-well beyond the midgame. He was very lucky to have sniped so many vessels, and I doubted he would have gotten even a couple if it wasn't for Flash's wrist. Altogether, this was one of the worst ZvT I've watched this year, and yes it was really that bad.

Gamegene

United States8308 Posts

July 27 2011 11:58 GMT

#485

On July 27 2011 20:56 J1.au wrote:
Huh? Flash didn't play that bad apart from losing too many vessels. I don't know what you are all talking about.

I guess the main thing people (including me) are upset about is just the unnecessary loss of units considering it's Flash.

Koka-kola

241 Posts

July 27 2011 11:58 GMT

#486

On July 27 2011 20:56 J1.au wrote:
Huh? Flash didn't play that bad apart from losing too many vessels. I don't know what you are all talking about.

Sometimes it is all that terran need to do to lose) Flash even outdone it.

shurgen

350 Posts

July 27 2011 11:59 GMT

#487

Flash played fine... Even if he was a little sloppy I`m pretty sure he knew the position he was in.

Koka-kola

241 Posts

July 27 2011 11:59 GMT

#488

Well I think Flash was sure he could win no matter how he played, map imbalance? + class difference, all sums up. ANyway next one please!

TwoToneTerran

United States8841 Posts

July 27 2011 12:00 GMT

#489

I think people are being overly critical of Flash's marine control. His SV control was sloppy, but he's been pretty much like that his whole career and it seems to work for him since he gets all the money irradiates, and when you're going 2 port vessel you can kind of afford to let them die if they're out of energy. That said, Flash midgame army was very weak because he made 30 fucking turrets to defend mutas, from there on he used his mnm spectacularly and pretty much deflected everything Shine even tried to attempt. His splits weren't perfect but they were at bad angles and he couldn't just let lurkers walk to his base with swarm in tow.

gngfn

United States1726 Posts

July 27 2011 12:00 GMT

#490

Also, I seriously doubt Flash sank much practice time into a game versus a bad Zerg on a TvZ imba map that won't be played in the PL finals. Don't read too much into this.

oh hey firebat

allen_ami

China1392 Posts

July 27 2011 12:01 GMT

#491

flash didnt even practise for this match imo...he should be focusing on spl final atm

just shine is too weak...zero or SK can win today's flash easily

Eun_Star

United States322 Posts

July 27 2011 12:01 GMT

#492

that quick dropship defense matrix was awesome though loooool

PineappleLumpsToss

New Zealand2434 Posts

July 27 2011 12:01 GMT

#493

On July 27 2011 21:00 TwoToneTerran wrote:
I think people are being overly critical of Flash's marine control. His SV control was sloppy, but he's been pretty much like that his whole career and it seems to work for him since he gets all the money irradiates, and when you're going 2 port vessel you can kind of afford to let them die if they're out of energy. That said, Flash midgame army was very weak because he made 30 fucking turrets to defend mutas, from there on he used his mnm spectacularly and pretty much deflected everything Shine even tried to attempt. His splits weren't perfect but they were at bad angles and he could just let lurkers walk to his base with swarm in tow.

Happy Birthday TTT.

Rodiel3

France1158 Posts

July 27 2011 12:02 GMT

#494

How are you suppose to beat Flash haha :D only JD can ! GG