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kuroshiroi
Profile Joined November 2010
3149 Posts
July 27 2011 12:16 GMT
#521
Killer has a slight disadvantage due to the rotational symmetry, I think.
Fly Jaedong, fly!
Koka-kola
Profile Joined May 2011
241 Posts
July 27 2011 12:16 GMT
#522
On July 27 2011 21:16 shadymmj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2011 21:13 Koka-kola wrote:
On July 27 2011 21:09 J1.au wrote:
On July 27 2011 21:06 Motivate wrote:
On July 27 2011 21:05 kuroshiroi wrote:
On July 27 2011 21:02 Rodiel3 wrote:
How are you suppose to beat Flash haha :D only JD can ! GG

You need to not make any mistakes, defend your bases against drops or vultures and have perfect macro. You know, sort of just play better than Flash ^^

That's why watching Flash lose is probably the most entertaining BW you can watch, because it usually means the winner played a perfect game. Mind games are the other thing that sometimes works on Flash but those are also fun to watch so it's all good.

tl;dr: Watching Flash lose is fun.

flash tends to be extremely vulnerable to early game aggression, especially as he likes to go risky builds like fast SV, etc.

Flash is most definitely not "extremely vulnerable" to early game aggression, that's just ridiculous. He actually has one of the most resilient early games out there. You can't achieve a 70% win rate with a weak early game.

you can't get a golden mouse with a weak early game.
you can't win OSL and MSL with a weak early game.
you can't ...


win OSL without going bio

...wait

)))
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
July 27 2011 12:16 GMT
#523
Bad engagement. Calm had a much better position on top of the ramp.
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
Motivate
Profile Joined June 2011
2860 Posts
July 27 2011 12:17 GMT
#524
calm's lair faster
Koka-kola
Profile Joined May 2011
241 Posts
July 27 2011 12:17 GMT
#525
come on Killie!
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11061 Posts
July 27 2011 12:17 GMT
#526
nice liquidation of lings
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
Khul Sadukar
Profile Joined August 2009
Australia1735 Posts
July 27 2011 12:17 GMT
#527
Inb4 Killer loses to over agression.
I don't want to be part everything. I want to be something. - Weapon X
kuroshiroi
Profile Joined November 2010
3149 Posts
July 27 2011 12:17 GMT
#528
Killer is slightly behind now.
Fly Jaedong, fly!
Motivate
Profile Joined June 2011
2860 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-27 12:18:16
July 27 2011 12:18 GMT
#529
calm with a decisive advantage after coming out on top of those ling battles
Jragon
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1471 Posts
July 27 2011 12:18 GMT
#530
killer on the back foot, morphing a sunken in his main, both with spires on the way
"Bisu is just too good." - Jaedong (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=218995) "Bisu hyung's play is just too good" - Flash (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=225861)
Motivate
Profile Joined June 2011
2860 Posts
July 27 2011 12:18 GMT
#531
calm's lings snipe a drone
shucklesors
Profile Joined May 2010
Singapore1176 Posts
July 27 2011 12:18 GMT
#532
VERY sloppy play from killer considering his recent momentum.
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
July 27 2011 12:18 GMT
#533
Don't understand the point in constantly attacking into a concave.
He won the battle with 2 zerglings idle.
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
Jragon
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1471 Posts
July 27 2011 12:19 GMT
#534
calm gets lings in killers main following subpar micro from killer, nabs a drone

killer also had a single ling in calm's main but it does nothing
"Bisu is just too good." - Jaedong (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=218995) "Bisu hyung's play is just too good" - Flash (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=225861)
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
July 27 2011 12:19 GMT
#535
Micro war incoming.
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
July 27 2011 12:19 GMT
#536
Calm snipes an overlord.
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
Motivate
Profile Joined June 2011
2860 Posts
July 27 2011 12:20 GMT
#537
calm's mutas snipe an overlord
HighTemper
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada3867 Posts
July 27 2011 12:20 GMT
#538
On July 27 2011 21:19 Telcontar wrote:
Micro war incoming.

When do you see macro in a ZvZ?
"Issue the orders Sir [JangBi], and I will storm Hell." - Anthony Wayne
kuroshiroi
Profile Joined November 2010
3149 Posts
July 27 2011 12:20 GMT
#539
Superb muta control from Killer!
Fly Jaedong, fly!
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
July 27 2011 12:20 GMT
#540
Wtf Killer with very good muta micro.
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