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{ToT}ColmA
Profile Joined November 2007
Japan3260 Posts
July 28 2011 08:49 GMT
#941
great, jd out now there is no one to watch anymore =(
The only virgins in kpop left are the fans
Dark2Bright
Profile Joined June 2010
United Kingdom23 Posts
July 28 2011 09:30 GMT
#942
Can anyone explain for me what is "BO disadvantage" ?
Adun Toridas
Ikonn
Profile Joined October 2009
Netherlands1958 Posts
July 28 2011 09:33 GMT
#943
On July 28 2011 18:30 Dark2Bright wrote:
Can anyone explain for me what is "BO disadvantage" ?


Build order disadvantage. Like in ZvZ, if you 12hatch while your opponent 9pools, you have a severe BO disadvantage. If your opponent 12pools however, he has the BO disadvantage
revy
Profile Joined September 2009
United States1524 Posts
July 28 2011 11:33 GMT
#944
On July 28 2011 18:30 Dark2Bright wrote:
Can anyone explain for me what is "BO disadvantage" ?


Each build order (BO) has times when it's strong and when it's weak. For instance a 14CC (where a terran expands before any production buildings) is weak very early on and past a certain point it becomes strong. An opposite type build is a 4 pool (where a z makes a pool with one of his initial 4 drones). This build is very strong early on but if the game doesn't end it becomes weak later on.

In a hypothetical TvZ where the T 14CC'd and the Z 4 pooled we could say that the terran is at an extreme BO disadvantage and the Z has a BO advantage.
Mortality
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States4790 Posts
July 28 2011 13:16 GMT
#945
On July 28 2011 20:33 revy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2011 18:30 Dark2Bright wrote:
Can anyone explain for me what is "BO disadvantage" ?


Each build order (BO) has times when it's strong and when it's weak. For instance a 14CC (where a terran expands before any production buildings) is weak very early on and past a certain point it becomes strong. An opposite type build is a 4 pool (where a z makes a pool with one of his initial 4 drones). This build is very strong early on but if the game doesn't end it becomes weak later on.

In a hypothetical TvZ where the T 14CC'd and the Z 4 pooled we could say that the terran is at an extreme BO disadvantage and the Z has a BO advantage.


Hypothetical? See Leta vs Great. :p
Even though this Proleague bullshit has been completely bogus, I really, really, really do not see how Khan can lose this. I swear I will kill myself if they do. - nesix before KHAN lost to eNature
Keone
Profile Joined April 2011
United States812 Posts
July 28 2011 13:42 GMT
#946
On July 27 2011 23:15 Spica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2011 23:12 vance wrote:
So, there is a chance that Fantasy vs Hyuk in ro8.
Plz, make it happen, lol

This. It better happen.

This would make me so happy.

Impossible to predict TvZ randomness VS Impossible to predict in general.
BW Forever. Flash is the Ultimate Bonjwa.
Kal_rA1
Profile Joined January 2011
160 Posts
July 28 2011 20:21 GMT
#947
never thought id say this... but... GO HYUK!!! GET JD TO MOVE TO THE RO8 SO WE CAN SEE ANOTHER EPIC JVF :D:D;D
Jaedong Oz
Kyuki
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden1867 Posts
July 28 2011 20:30 GMT
#948
JD =( CMON MAN! More deathstare <3!

I really hope HyuK pulls through..
Mada Mada Dane
Dandy4
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States493 Posts
July 28 2011 23:44 GMT
#949
Even if Hyuk wins, I don't think JD is make it out of the tiebreaker. His is ZvZ looks very mortal tbh.
Who let the dogs out?
Dark2Bright
Profile Joined June 2010
United Kingdom23 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-29 00:08:56
July 29 2011 00:07 GMT
#950
On July 28 2011 20:33 revy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2011 18:30 Dark2Bright wrote:
Can anyone explain for me what is "BO disadvantage" ?


Each build order (BO) has times when it's strong and when it's weak. For instance a 14CC (where a terran expands before any production buildings) is weak very early on and past a certain point it becomes strong. An opposite type build is a 4 pool (where a z makes a pool with one of his initial 4 drones). This build is very strong early on but if the game doesn't end it becomes weak later on.

In a hypothetical TvZ where the T 14CC'd and the Z 4 pooled we could say that the terran is at an extreme BO disadvantage and the Z has a BO advantage.


On July 28 2011 20:33 revy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2011 18:30 Dark2Bright wrote:
Can anyone explain for me what is "BO disadvantage" ?


Each build order (BO) has times when it's strong and when it's weak. For instance a 14CC (where a terran expands before any production buildings) is weak very early on and past a certain point it becomes strong. An opposite type build is a 4 pool (where a z makes a pool with one of his initial 4 drones). This build is very strong early on but if the game doesn't end it becomes weak later on.

In a hypothetical TvZ where the T 14CC'd and the Z 4 pooled we could say that the terran is at an extreme BO disadvantage and the Z has a BO advantage.

Thank guys
Adun Toridas
Ryusei-R1
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States2106 Posts
July 29 2011 01:09 GMT
#951
I come home from the mountains

and see this.

FUCK, Jaedong you gotta get your shit together man, I NEED YOU TO WIN.
Jaedong plz
Sina92
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden1303 Posts
July 29 2011 01:46 GMT
#952
poor sea
My penis is 15 inches long, I'm a Harvard professor and look better than Brad Pitt and Jake Gyllenhaal combined.
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