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red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
July 27 2011 23:28 GMT
#921
Starting with the series against Hydra in the pdpop MSL, JD is now 14-14 in his last 28 ZvZ. I think JvZ is definitely gone.
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-27 23:38:24
July 27 2011 23:37 GMT
#922
On July 28 2011 08:28 red4ce wrote:
Starting with the series against Hydra in the pdpop MSL, JD is now 14-14 in his last 28 ZvZ. I think JvZ is definitely gone.

The common claim is that JvZ ended after the loss to Hyuk in the PL grand finals back in 09, but recently, it's become simple BO wins and losses, and around 50% wins of same BO.
☺
TheNessman
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4158 Posts
July 27 2011 23:45 GMT
#923
On July 27 2011 21:46 lyAsakura wrote:
WHAT THE FUCK
IT MAKES NO SENSE
~~! youtube.com/xmungam1 !~~
Elefanto
Profile Joined May 2010
Switzerland3584 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-28 00:12:03
July 28 2011 00:11 GMT
#924
hyvaa, ruining osl for everyone >: (
wat
Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-28 01:04:48
July 28 2011 01:00 GMT
#925
On July 28 2011 08:14 djbhINDI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2011 04:58 Djabanete wrote:
On July 28 2011 04:14 Release wrote:
On July 28 2011 03:58 _romantic wrote:
On July 28 2011 03:56 m4gdelen4 wrote:
So Jaedong is 1-2 right now? Could someone explain the situation with his chances of advancing? thanks!


Player A is 3-0

Player B is 1-1

Player C is 1-2

Player D is 0-2

In this case JD is player C, and if D > B then we have 3 players with 1-2 records and Jaedong can enter a tiebreaker.

umm. Where you get those stats?
Hyuk 2-0
modesty 1-1
Jaedong 1-2
Hyvaa 1-2

If hyuk>modest, lower rung tiebreaker in which one person must win against the other two to advance.

If modesty > hyuk, hyuk and modest advance and jaedong is out.

Don't worry JD fans, Hyuk will want to beat modesty so he can get 1st seed and avoid Flash. In other news, if hyuk does win and jaedong wins the tiebreaker, then JD vs Flash in ro8, just like Ever OSL.

Actually that's really comforting --- that's a terrific reason for Hyuk to want to beat Modesty. However, it's very disappointing that the LeeSsang will meet again in the Ro8. The only players who are good finals material are Flash, Jaedong, Stork, Hydra (maybe), and Fantasy. Apparently either Jaedong or Flash is guaranteed to be out by the Ro4, even though they already ran into each other in the ODT

Stork? The guy who's 0-2 and lost to freaking shine? Good finals material? You best be trolling.

Welcome to TL! I see you joined last month, which explains why you seem unfamiliar with anything prior to this OSL. I can assure you that Stork is a boss and he's been in several very exciting finals. His MSL series against Bisu went to 5 spectacular games; likewise for his GSI series against Flash. He defeated Fantasy in their first OSL encounter in an amazing series. Stork would deliver a better finals than anyone outside Flash, Jaedong, Fantasy, and possibly Hydra.

He still has a chance of advancing, although he needs to beat Hydra and then get through the tiebreak. It's possible.

On July 28 2011 08:17 djbhINDI wrote:
My ass

... really doesn't need to be in this thread, thanks.

Anyway, those weren't predictions, in case you didn't notice; JBLS finals (with J=Fanta or Jangbi) is just what I'm hoping for. (Edit: And Jangbi is still in the OSL despite being 0-2.)
May the BeSt man win.
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
July 28 2011 01:59 GMT
#926
Can't believe that Jaedong lost.

And happy that Flash advanced with 3:0 record. Go Flash!
Jragon
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1471 Posts
July 28 2011 02:07 GMT
#927
Dammit JD, it was looking all good when you took out probably the toughest opponent, Modesty, first up. Why'd you have to make it difficult?
"Bisu is just too good." - Jaedong (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=218995) "Bisu hyung's play is just too good" - Flash (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=225861)
Xenocide_Knight
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Korea (South)2625 Posts
July 28 2011 02:13 GMT
#928
On July 28 2011 08:14 djbhINDI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2011 04:58 Djabanete wrote:
On July 28 2011 04:14 Release wrote:
On July 28 2011 03:58 _romantic wrote:
On July 28 2011 03:56 m4gdelen4 wrote:
So Jaedong is 1-2 right now? Could someone explain the situation with his chances of advancing? thanks!


Player A is 3-0

Player B is 1-1

Player C is 1-2

Player D is 0-2

In this case JD is player C, and if D > B then we have 3 players with 1-2 records and Jaedong can enter a tiebreaker.

umm. Where you get those stats?
Hyuk 2-0
modesty 1-1
Jaedong 1-2
Hyvaa 1-2

If hyuk>modest, lower rung tiebreaker in which one person must win against the other two to advance.

If modesty > hyuk, hyuk and modest advance and jaedong is out.

Don't worry JD fans, Hyuk will want to beat modesty so he can get 1st seed and avoid Flash. In other news, if hyuk does win and jaedong wins the tiebreaker, then JD vs Flash in ro8, just like Ever OSL.

Actually that's really comforting --- that's a terrific reason for Hyuk to want to beat Modesty. However, it's very disappointing that the LeeSsang will meet again in the Ro8. The only players who are good finals material are Flash, Jaedong, Stork, Hydra (maybe), and Fantasy. Apparently either Jaedong or Flash is guaranteed to be out by the Ro4, even though they already ran into each other in the ODT

Stork? The guy who's 0-2 and lost to freaking shine? Good finals material? You best be trolling.


Listen, I don't like Stork either but you are a joke.
Let me point out your logical fallacy
You point out that Stork lost to Shine, but that's irrelevant because Shine is the best
+ Show Spoiler +

Also, Bisu much? Go back to sc2, you clearly don't know what you are talking about
Shine[Kal] #1 fan
ZavikZyke
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States382 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-28 04:02:25
July 28 2011 04:02 GMT
#929
Jaedong :/ Im going to guess hyvaa is going to be the new hated zerg? (after shine of course)
Hoejja is Bonjwa
Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
July 28 2011 04:44 GMT
#930
Stork honestly wouldn't be great finals material with the shape he's been in. :|
Vivi57
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States6599 Posts
July 28 2011 04:44 GMT
#931
cute, hyuk can deny jd the ro8 if he wants
Flash hwaiting! Nal_rA forever!
zenMaster
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada761 Posts
July 28 2011 05:01 GMT
#932
On July 28 2011 13:44 Vivi57 wrote:
cute, hyuk can deny jd the ro8 if he wants

I doubt he wants to play Flash or Fantasy in the next round, so he better win 3:0 and give Jaedong(everyone) a chance at this OSL.
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
July 28 2011 05:15 GMT
#933
On July 28 2011 09:11 Elefanto wrote:
hyvaa, ruining osl for everyone >: (

yes, how dare a progamer win a game! its not like its his job or anything..
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-28 05:21:01
July 28 2011 05:20 GMT
#934
So is the pairing in Ro8 determined already. I thought it was random, any player who was 1st in their respective group can be matched with any player who was 2nd in their group. So why is everyone saying that Hyuk will face Flash if he loses?

And hyvaa didn't ruin OSL. It is as ridiculous as blaming Shine for Stork's and Bisu's losses. The only person who you can blame is Jaedong in this case.
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
July 28 2011 05:52 GMT
#935
On July 28 2011 14:15 moopie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2011 09:11 Elefanto wrote:
hyvaa, ruining osl for everyone >: (

yes, how dare a progamer win a game! its not like its his job or anything..


No one's saying he should just roll over and lose, but it's silly to think that the OSL is better for having anyone of hyvaa/modesty/hyuk over JD.
Remember Violet.
lizzard_warish
Profile Joined June 2011
589 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-28 05:58:03
July 28 2011 05:56 GMT
#936
Its better for there to be modesty going deep in leagues than reach, quite frankly. Why? Cause reach sucks, and he'd never actually get that far except dumb luck. If Jaedong cant get out of a simple zvz group of which there is only one competent zvz player [modesty] than I highly doubt hed actually be in enough form to get past any good zerg he meets. Who knows where his zvt/zvp are at anyway, hes fluctuated so dramatically over the last year. At the end of the day: The OSL is better with high skilled, famous and congenial players going far. Sometimes the famous and respected players dont always match up with the best.
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-28 06:00:15
July 28 2011 05:57 GMT
#937
On July 28 2011 14:52 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2011 14:15 moopie wrote:
On July 28 2011 09:11 Elefanto wrote:
hyvaa, ruining osl for everyone >: (

yes, how dare a progamer win a game! its not like its his job or anything..


No one's saying he should just roll over and lose, but it's silly to think that the OSL is better for having anyone of hyvaa/modesty/hyuk over JD.

Better for who? I don't mind having Modesty, hyvaa or jaedong personally. I'd be happy to see STX take another title after so long.

And with everything thats been happening with STX lately, making deep runs in leagues might help convince management for the better.
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
July 28 2011 06:09 GMT
#938
On July 28 2011 14:57 moopie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2011 14:52 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On July 28 2011 14:15 moopie wrote:
On July 28 2011 09:11 Elefanto wrote:
hyvaa, ruining osl for everyone >: (

yes, how dare a progamer win a game! its not like its his job or anything..


No one's saying he should just roll over and lose, but it's silly to think that the OSL is better for having anyone of hyvaa/modesty/hyuk over JD.

Better for who? I don't mind having Modesty, hyvaa or jaedong personally. I'd be happy to see STX take another title after so long.

And with everything thats been happening with STX lately, making deep runs in leagues might help convince management for the better.


Better for the vast majority of fans? Jaedong is clearly a better player against the field, a more hype and crowd drawing player, and will overall raise the quality of the Ro8 if he makes it. I completely understand rooting for players of a certain team, though.
Remember Violet.
_romantic
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States455 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-28 06:20:43
July 28 2011 06:19 GMT
#939
On July 28 2011 15:09 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2011 14:57 moopie wrote:
On July 28 2011 14:52 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On July 28 2011 14:15 moopie wrote:
On July 28 2011 09:11 Elefanto wrote:
hyvaa, ruining osl for everyone >: (

yes, how dare a progamer win a game! its not like its his job or anything..


No one's saying he should just roll over and lose, but it's silly to think that the OSL is better for having anyone of hyvaa/modesty/hyuk over JD.

Better for who? I don't mind having Modesty, hyvaa or jaedong personally. I'd be happy to see STX take another title after so long.

And with everything thats been happening with STX lately, making deep runs in leagues might help convince management for the better.


Better for the vast majority of fans? Jaedong is clearly a better player against the field, a more hype and crowd drawing player, and will overall raise the quality of the Ro8 if he makes it. I completely understand rooting for players of a certain team, though.


TTT I think it's also critical here to make sure that smaller teams' management can at least see their players getting results, as cliche as that sounds. With MSL disappearing the last thing we need is less diversity in teamleagues as well as individual leagues.

And yes, even if that means Flash or Jaedong losing a league or crashing out in Ro4, that's fine--in the long run not even God or the Tyrant can survive without an ecosystem around them
Jaedong beats other players. Bisu beats other players, in PL. Flash beats Starcraft.
Dark2Bright
Profile Joined June 2010
United Kingdom23 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-28 08:39:25
July 28 2011 08:36 GMT
#940
hyvaa knocked out best vZ players like Bisu and JD
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