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Jragon
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1471 Posts
July 27 2011 11:52 GMT
#461
flash doesn't look too happy. angry with the sloppy showing or as disturbed as the rest of us at mbc's announcement?
"Bisu is just too good." - Jaedong (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=218995) "Bisu hyung's play is just too good" - Flash (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=225861)
hitthat
Profile Joined January 2010
Poland2349 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-27 11:52:48
July 27 2011 11:52 GMT
#462
Calm has this guys...
Shameless BroodWar separatistic, elitist, fanaticaly devoted puritan fanboy.
GeLaar
Profile Joined January 2003
2421 Posts
July 27 2011 11:52 GMT
#463
On July 27 2011 20:51 Nikon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2011 20:50 GeLaar wrote:
On July 27 2011 20:49 Gamegene wrote:
I can't tell if this game is about Flash playing bad but not too bad (cause he's Flash) or Shine playing really well but not well enough.


It's about Shine playing badly. It just took him a while to lose, because he had an insane advantage.


Shine didn't really play bad, it's just that he couldn't keep up in multi-tasking.


HE HAD NOTHING TO MULTI-TASK! The guy was below 80 food and 3 bases the whole game, what the hell was he multi-tasking?!
Brood War is alive and well.
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4437 Posts
July 27 2011 11:52 GMT
#464
Even though he fell apart after being ahead, I'm happy with Shine's effort. I was expecting much worse rape than that
Sucker for nostalgia
shucklesors
Profile Joined May 2010
Singapore1176 Posts
July 27 2011 11:52 GMT
#465
lets go hwaseung oz!!
o[twist]
Profile Joined May 2008
United States4903 Posts
July 27 2011 11:53 GMT
#466
a lot of it was flash denying several bases in quick succession. shine needed a fourth more quickly.

flash and fanta both 3-0. the other players who haven't lost yet are killer and hyuk hehe
kuroshiroi
Profile Joined November 2010
3149 Posts
July 27 2011 11:53 GMT
#467
It didn't really matter that Shine forgot about cracklings, he didn't use lings all that much in the late game since he couldn't make them due to lack of larva. He could have won that game with better macro and the crackling upgrade but...

Oh well, recommended.
Fly Jaedong, fly!
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
July 27 2011 11:53 GMT
#468
On July 27 2011 20:51 Nikon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2011 20:50 GeLaar wrote:
On July 27 2011 20:49 Gamegene wrote:
I can't tell if this game is about Flash playing bad but not too bad (cause he's Flash) or Shine playing really well but not well enough.


It's about Shine playing badly. It just took him a while to lose, because he had an insane advantage.


Shine didn't really play bad, it's just that he couldn't keep up in multi-tasking.

he lost 2 expos to one dropship (of only marines), when not much was really going on other than some jockeying around in the center. Shine really showed some pathetic multi-tasking :l
Writerptrk
hns
Profile Joined January 2010
Germany609 Posts
July 27 2011 11:53 GMT
#469
On July 27 2011 20:51 Nikon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2011 20:50 GeLaar wrote:
On July 27 2011 20:49 Gamegene wrote:
I can't tell if this game is about Flash playing bad but not too bad (cause he's Flash) or Shine playing really well but not well enough.


It's about Shine playing badly. It just took him a while to lose, because he had an insane advantage.


Shine didn't really play bad, it's just that he couldn't keep up in multi-tasking.

I think it was a bad idea to try to save up for ultras. That took him forever and allowed Flash to establish a reasonable force and foothold, such that once ultras were out, they didn't make much of a difference. I think he should have spent all the ress into lurker/ling/defiler and try to end it. But then, I'm a incredible noob.
ZerO, Action, Neo.G_Soulkey & FlaSh fanboy~~
kdgns
Profile Joined May 2009
United States2427 Posts
July 27 2011 11:53 GMT
#470
On July 27 2011 20:52 hypercube wrote:
That was really sloppy from Flash. I'm worried about the PL final.


maybe he's been practicing TvP or TvT for PL final, lets see how that turns out
Existential
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2107 Posts
July 27 2011 11:53 GMT
#471
Anyway, Jaedong fighting!!!
Jaedong <3 | BW - The first game I ever loved
Eun_Star
Profile Joined April 2010
United States322 Posts
July 27 2011 11:53 GMT
#472
yes, flash needed to irradiate the defiler/ultras to make sure he gets the win. when he lost ~4 vessels in the beginning, that was definitely a mistake. flash was just so far ahead as he kept zerg on 3 base...incredible play. the map really didn't allow the zerg to take a easy third/fourth, i'm surprised this map is still in OSL
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
July 27 2011 11:53 GMT
#473
Turns out, having really bad multi tasking means you played really bad.
Remember Violet.
Koka-kola
Profile Joined May 2011
241 Posts
July 27 2011 11:54 GMT
#474
Its amazing, a loss of so many vessels in the beginning would probably mean a loss for Flash against JD. That is class difference, its enormous.
4vvhiplash7
Profile Joined December 2010
South Africa392 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-27 11:55:42
July 27 2011 11:54 GMT
#475
Flash certainly didnt seem all that on top in that game. He won as usual, but it was as if some other Terran was playing, so many mistakes that he seldom makes... I haven't seen that many games on pathfinder, is it ZvT imbalanced?

anyway, gg Flash! 3-0 through to Ro8

edit: i just saw that pathfinder is like 73% TvZ... So Flash just played poorly...
chisuri
Profile Joined January 2010
Vietnam789 Posts
July 27 2011 11:55 GMT
#476
What was the Nydus about? Why didn't Shine link it to his 4th? That would be game winning for him.
Rustymike
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Finland327 Posts
July 27 2011 11:55 GMT
#477
On July 27 2011 20:53 Eun_Star wrote:
the map really didn't allow the zerg to take a easy third/fourth, i'm surprised this map is still in OSL


totally this, taking a fourth is just so hard to take on this map with those multiple drop and attackrouts.
kuroshiroi
Profile Joined November 2010
3149 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-27 11:58:12
July 27 2011 11:55 GMT
#478
On July 27 2011 20:53 Eun_Star wrote:
yes, flash needed to irradiate the defiler/ultras to make sure he gets the win. when he lost ~4 vessels in the beginning, that was definitely a mistake. flash was just so far ahead as he kept zerg on 3 base...incredible play. the map really didn't allow the zerg to take a easy third/fourth, i'm surprised this map is still in OSL

You need to actually secure your bases, just dropping naked hatches and hoping for the best is not very optimal. He needed lurkers, sunkens and scourge at his fourth. Which he could have done instead of losing his fourth 4 times.

Edit: And if he couldn't afford stationing the gas units there, just make 3 sunkens or something after the creep spreads a bit. Having 2k mins in the bank while trying to secure your fourth and repeatedly failing...
Fly Jaedong, fly!
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
July 27 2011 11:56 GMT
#479
On July 27 2011 20:54 4vvhiplash7 wrote:
Flash certainly didnt seem all that on top in that game. He won as usual, but it was as if some other Terran was playing, so many mistakes that he seldom makes... I haven't seen that many games on pathfinder, is it ZvT imbalanced?

anyway, gg Flash! 3-0 through to Ro8


Heavily favored for Terran
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
July 27 2011 11:56 GMT
#480
Sloppy science vessel control, overeager dropship usage and a few unlucky mine aigoos from Flash but with how many times Shine's 3rd and then later 4th were denied the outcome was never really in doubt.
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