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I love Bisu more than anyone else and god knows thats true, but if I see a picture of him after page 5 it will result in 2 days ban. Thats enough, be warned.
-disciple
Shurayuki
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2665 Posts
July 24 2011 07:15 GMT
#2581
On July 24 2011 16:13 Elyvilon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 16:12 fallingdream wrote:
Yes CJ fans and KT haters, blame it on ZvZ, BO and hate on Roo, but don't even for a second try to blame it on the CJ coaches for a: not sending out Snow, b: telling and making Where practice 12 hatch.

I think most people are blaming Movie, actually

I still think there's nothing wrong with 12hatching


why blame movie more than horang though?
なまいきになんなよ~ Don't be too stakka~ ☆ SKT Harlequin ☆ n.Die_soO Hoppin You ♪ 愛 am BeSt ♪ ワイフ♥小早川りんこ
aupstar
Profile Joined June 2007
Australia912 Posts
July 24 2011 07:15 GMT
#2582
On July 24 2011 16:14 Shurayuki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 16:12 Lightwip wrote:
On July 24 2011 16:10 flamewheel wrote:
On July 24 2011 16:07 Vipsanius wrote:
Are we going to see MS-paint Bisu?

Bisu pic

Hope disciple doesn't see that or yous is gettin banned.


at this point and for that post there should really not be a ban though...the thread was sucessfully bisuless so let it slide


Define bisuless..
Firebats, the natural enemy of octozerg
hmmm...
Profile Joined March 2011
632 Posts
July 24 2011 07:15 GMT
#2583
On July 24 2011 16:05 Release wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 16:04 hmmm... wrote:
seriously, why 12 hatch?

seems really fishy to me....

i mean think about it. if you 12 hatch, there is a considerable chance you can automatically lose due to a build order.

if you do 9 pool, at least you have a timing window. if you do 12 pool, at least you can defend a 9 pool.

of course, 12 hatch is totally viable in a bo3, bo5 zvz series, but at this stage of the tournament, when EVERYTHING is on the line, to go 12 hatch?

either he's doing illegal betting or the CJ coach is making some seriously bad decisions. i am TERRIBLY disappointed, more so after such a brilliant effort by Leta, and I even wanted KT to win too.

you zvz nutholes.
12 hatch > 12 pool > 9pool. It's simple. 12 pool does defend a 9pool. Don't call someone stupid for trying to play zvz in a zvz.


i never said 12 pool doesn't defend a 9 pool. i said 12 hatch doesn't defend a 9 pool (almost always). i suggest you read carefully next time. 12 hatch is not > 9pool if you can't defend it in the firstplace nuthole
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-24 07:16:38
July 24 2011 07:15 GMT
#2584
On July 24 2011 16:15 aupstar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 16:14 Shurayuki wrote:
On July 24 2011 16:12 Lightwip wrote:
On July 24 2011 16:10 flamewheel wrote:
On July 24 2011 16:07 Vipsanius wrote:
Are we going to see MS-paint Bisu?

Bisu pic

Hope disciple doesn't see that or yous is gettin banned.


at this point and for that post there should really not be a ban though...the thread was sucessfully bisuless so let it slide


Define bisuless..

Terrible.
Ex: Movie's PvZ today seemed very bisuless.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
miky_ardiente
Profile Joined May 2010
Mexico387 Posts
July 24 2011 07:16 GMT
#2585
On July 24 2011 16:15 aupstar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 16:14 Shurayuki wrote:
On July 24 2011 16:12 Lightwip wrote:
On July 24 2011 16:10 flamewheel wrote:
On July 24 2011 16:07 Vipsanius wrote:
Are we going to see MS-paint Bisu?

Bisu pic

Hope disciple doesn't see that or yous is gettin banned.


at this point and for that post there should really not be a ban though...the thread was sucessfully bisuless so let it slide


Define bisuless..


a LR with not enough bisu pics
My anaconda dont want none... u know the rest
doothegee
Profile Joined December 2009
Korea (South)3011 Posts
July 24 2011 07:16 GMT
#2586
Oof. Fomos match ratings are painful to read.
웅진 멘쓰즈
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5599 Posts
July 24 2011 07:16 GMT
#2587
it is going to be a zvz fest next time i'd say.. SKT won't send protoss against zerg (except for Bisu) and they don't have a very strong terran line up i think.
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
aupstar
Profile Joined June 2007
Australia912 Posts
July 24 2011 07:16 GMT
#2588
On July 24 2011 16:15 Lightwip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 16:15 aupstar wrote:
On July 24 2011 16:14 Shurayuki wrote:
On July 24 2011 16:12 Lightwip wrote:
On July 24 2011 16:10 flamewheel wrote:
On July 24 2011 16:07 Vipsanius wrote:
Are we going to see MS-paint Bisu?

Bisu pic

Hope disciple doesn't see that or yous is gettin banned.


at this point and for that post there should really not be a ban though...the thread was sucessfully bisuless so let it slide


Define bisuless..

Terrible.


+ Show Spoiler +
The thread was full of talk about bisu...for no reason mostly
Firebats, the natural enemy of octozerg
prototype.
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada4215 Posts
July 24 2011 07:16 GMT
#2589
On July 24 2011 16:15 Shurayuki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 16:13 Elyvilon wrote:
On July 24 2011 16:12 fallingdream wrote:
Yes CJ fans and KT haters, blame it on ZvZ, BO and hate on Roo, but don't even for a second try to blame it on the CJ coaches for a: not sending out Snow, b: telling and making Where practice 12 hatch.

I think most people are blaming Movie, actually

I still think there's nothing wrong with 12hatching


why blame movie more than horang though?

At least horang2 won his game on day 1.
( ・´ー・`)
AppleTart
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1261 Posts
July 24 2011 07:17 GMT
#2590
On July 24 2011 16:16 doothegee wrote:
Oof. Fomos match ratings are painful to read.


Link please :D?
always tired -_-
DarkMatter_
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada1774 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-24 07:18:07
July 24 2011 07:17 GMT
#2591
On July 24 2011 16:14 Elroi wrote:
God.. plz stop complaining about the 12 hatch. It is perfectly standard its just a retarded match up.

This. There is no "safe build" in ZvZ. Going 12 pool means you might be able to last a bit longer and not die to lings right away but if your opponent goes 12 hatch, you're still almost definitely going to lose unless your opponent fucks up in a big way.

And 12 pool can still die to 9 pool speed openings.
doothegee
Profile Joined December 2009
Korea (South)3011 Posts
July 24 2011 07:17 GMT
#2592
On July 24 2011 16:17 AppleTart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 16:16 doothegee wrote:
Oof. Fomos match ratings are painful to read.


Link please :D?

I would, but the Gestapo would find me and my family.
웅진 멘쓰즈
o[twist]
Profile Joined May 2008
United States4903 Posts
July 24 2011 07:18 GMT
#2593
On July 24 2011 16:15 Shurayuki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 16:13 Elyvilon wrote:
On July 24 2011 16:12 fallingdream wrote:
Yes CJ fans and KT haters, blame it on ZvZ, BO and hate on Roo, but don't even for a second try to blame it on the CJ coaches for a: not sending out Snow, b: telling and making Where practice 12 hatch.

I think most people are blaming Movie, actually

I still think there's nothing wrong with 12hatching


why blame movie more than horang though?


because movie lost both days and because PvZ is movie's wheelhouse and he got it twice, whereas horang2 is a PvP expert and still went 1-1

over both days, the only CJ player with a winning record was leta. he went 2-0. horang and hydra went 1-1. movie went 0-2 and skyhigh, bbyong, where, and snow went 0-1. it's hard not to place a lot of blame on movie.
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
July 24 2011 07:18 GMT
#2594
On July 24 2011 16:15 hmmm... wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 16:05 Release wrote:
On July 24 2011 16:04 hmmm... wrote:
seriously, why 12 hatch?

seems really fishy to me....

i mean think about it. if you 12 hatch, there is a considerable chance you can automatically lose due to a build order.

if you do 9 pool, at least you have a timing window. if you do 12 pool, at least you can defend a 9 pool.

of course, 12 hatch is totally viable in a bo3, bo5 zvz series, but at this stage of the tournament, when EVERYTHING is on the line, to go 12 hatch?

either he's doing illegal betting or the CJ coach is making some seriously bad decisions. i am TERRIBLY disappointed, more so after such a brilliant effort by Leta, and I even wanted KT to win too.

you zvz nutholes.
12 hatch > 12 pool > 9pool. It's simple. 12 pool does defend a 9pool. Don't call someone stupid for trying to play zvz in a zvz.


i never said 12 pool doesn't defend a 9 pool. i said 12 hatch doesn't defend a 9 pool (almost always). i suggest you read carefully next time. 12 hatch is not > 9pool if you can't defend it in the firstplace nuthole

You said can. On aztec, it does. Only on an extremely small map, say battle royal or chupung ryeong, does a 9pool break a 12pool.
Also, you really shouldn't be accusing where of match fixing. It's so common that someone is flamed for 12 hatch when the opponent 9pool whereas no one flames a 12pooler.
☺
AppleTart
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1261 Posts
July 24 2011 07:18 GMT
#2595
On July 24 2011 16:17 doothegee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 16:17 AppleTart wrote:
On July 24 2011 16:16 doothegee wrote:
Oof. Fomos match ratings are painful to read.


Link please :D?

I would, but the Gestapo would find me and my family.


Send me a PM to escape persecution.
always tired -_-
Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
July 24 2011 07:18 GMT
#2596
On July 24 2011 16:15 Shurayuki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 16:13 Elyvilon wrote:
On July 24 2011 16:12 fallingdream wrote:
Yes CJ fans and KT haters, blame it on ZvZ, BO and hate on Roo, but don't even for a second try to blame it on the CJ coaches for a: not sending out Snow, b: telling and making Where practice 12 hatch.

I think most people are blaming Movie, actually

I still think there's nothing wrong with 12hatching


why blame movie more than horang though?

He gets some blame too.

I'd rather blame movie more, since a)Horang2 won on day 1, even if it was a very ugly win, and b) I think he got a bit unlucky to 2gate on cross positions.
Liquipedia
Winechu
Profile Joined May 2011
Singapore1186 Posts
July 24 2011 07:18 GMT
#2597
On July 24 2011 16:17 AppleTart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 16:16 doothegee wrote:
Oof. Fomos match ratings are painful to read.


Link please :D?

http://fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=119576&db=news

KT zergs are the shared MVPs
miky_ardiente
Profile Joined May 2010
Mexico387 Posts
July 24 2011 07:18 GMT
#2598
On July 24 2011 16:17 doothegee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 16:17 AppleTart wrote:
On July 24 2011 16:16 doothegee wrote:
Oof. Fomos match ratings are painful to read.


Link please :D?

I would, but the Gestapo would find me and my family.


what is guestapo ?
My anaconda dont want none... u know the rest
KTF_CloaK
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1338 Posts
July 24 2011 07:19 GMT
#2599
On July 24 2011 16:17 AppleTart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 16:16 doothegee wrote:
Oof. Fomos match ratings are painful to read.


Link please :D?


It's probably in korean but can you translate? ^^
KT Rolster for the win!! Lee-Young-Ho hwaiting!!
Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-24 07:20:05
July 24 2011 07:19 GMT
#2600
On July 24 2011 16:18 Winechu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 16:17 AppleTart wrote:
On July 24 2011 16:16 doothegee wrote:
Oof. Fomos match ratings are painful to read.


Link please :D?

http://fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=119576&db=news

KT zergs are the shared MVPs

geeez lol, if you're not an A you're a D lol
(except Leta, he got S :D)
thanks for the link btw
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