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I love Bisu more than anyone else and god knows thats true, but if I see a picture of him after page 5 it will result in 2 days ban. Thats enough, be warned.
-disciple
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5599 Posts
July 24 2011 07:28 GMT
#2621
On July 24 2011 16:25 Kipsate wrote:
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On July 24 2011 16:24 Elroi wrote:
Those ratings were so stupid... who does them?


Got a link?

and to be fair all of the games were bad except for the Leta Flash one.

http://fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=119576&db=news

I don't think Where played bad. Or maybe it is just that perfective is terrible, I don't know.
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
doothegee
Profile Joined December 2009
Korea (South)3011 Posts
July 24 2011 07:28 GMT
#2622
On July 24 2011 16:23 Winechu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 16:19 doothegee wrote:
On July 24 2011 16:19 KTF_CloaK wrote:
On July 24 2011 16:17 AppleTart wrote:
On July 24 2011 16:16 doothegee wrote:
Oof. Fomos match ratings are painful to read.


Link please :D?


It's probably in korean but can you translate? ^^

That shit's illegal, bro. I'm sure Fomos Global has a translation up.


Unfortunately FOMOS global hasn't posted anything about the CJ-KT PO match-ups. Not even winners interviews. I'd love to translate from sc.plu.cn but they don't use DES either.

Wait, are you telling me Fomos Global is incompetent? Because that's just not true.

/ex-translator rage
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Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
July 24 2011 07:28 GMT
#2623
On July 24 2011 16:26 aupstar wrote:
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On July 24 2011 16:19 Hyde wrote:
On July 24 2011 16:18 Winechu wrote:
On July 24 2011 16:17 AppleTart wrote:
On July 24 2011 16:16 doothegee wrote:
Oof. Fomos match ratings are painful to read.


Link please :D?

http://fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=119576&db=news

KT zergs are the shared MVPs

geeez lol, if you're not an A you're a D lol
(except Leta, he got S :D)
thanks for the link btw


Leta got an S though! :D

I know, I even said it in the post you quoted
he definitely deserved that S
Because when you left, Brood War was all spotlights and titans. Now, with the death of the big leagues, Brood War has moved to the basements and carparks. Now, Brood War is unlicensed brawls, lost teeth, and bloody fights for fistfulls of money - SirJolt
Spyfire242
Profile Joined March 2009
United States715 Posts
July 24 2011 07:28 GMT
#2624
On July 24 2011 16:26 o[twist] wrote:
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On July 24 2011 16:20 hmmm... wrote:
On July 24 2011 16:06 Elyvilon wrote:
On July 24 2011 16:04 hmmm... wrote:
seriously, why 12 hatch?

seems really fishy to me....

i mean think about it. if you 12 hatch, there is a considerable chance you can automatically lose due to a build order.

if you do 9 pool, at least you have a timing window. if you do 12 pool, at least you can defend a 9 pool.

of course, 12 hatch is totally viable in a bo3, bo5 zvz series, but at this stage of the tournament, when EVERYTHING is on the line, to go 12 hatch?

either he's doing illegal betting or the CJ coach is making some seriously bad decisions. i am TERRIBLY disappointed, more so after such a brilliant effort by Leta, and I even wanted KT to win too.

And what if your opponent thinks the same way, 12pools, and then you get to ride your 12hatch to a win?

He lost the BO war, no need to bring match fixing into this.


a 12 hatch doesn't automatically win against a 12 pool as much as a 9 pool automatically wins against a 12 hatch.

what i'm saying is that in CJ's situation, they should have picked a build that most minimizes the effects of a bo difference and that is 12 pool. with good micro, you can win both a 9 pool and 12 hatch with a 12 pool. even if CJ went with a 9 pool, at least they would have had a short timing window advantage against a 12 hatch or pool. but if you go 12 hatch and opponent happens to go 9pool, u almost surely lose.


so what you meant to say above was that, because in your opinion the advantage of a 12hatch over a 12pool is not as significant of the advantage of a 9pool over a 12hatch, there was probably match-fixing going on? do you realize how ridiculous and disproportionate that kind of statement is?


I think he is just really disappointed and must justify it with outrageous claims like match-fixing lol...
Entusman #55 Spyfire242!
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
July 24 2011 07:29 GMT
#2625
Leta 2-0 this bracket. Movie 0-2 at his best matchup. CJ definitely need to step it up.
☺
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
July 24 2011 07:30 GMT
#2626
On July 24 2011 16:28 doothegee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 16:23 Winechu wrote:
On July 24 2011 16:19 doothegee wrote:
On July 24 2011 16:19 KTF_CloaK wrote:
On July 24 2011 16:17 AppleTart wrote:
On July 24 2011 16:16 doothegee wrote:
Oof. Fomos match ratings are painful to read.


Link please :D?


It's probably in korean but can you translate? ^^

That shit's illegal, bro. I'm sure Fomos Global has a translation up.


Unfortunately FOMOS global hasn't posted anything about the CJ-KT PO match-ups. Not even winners interviews. I'd love to translate from sc.plu.cn but they don't use DES either.

Wait, are you telling me Fomos Global is incompetent? Because that's just not true.

/ex-translator rage


fomos is damn right incompetent not only they haven't translate playoff KT v WJ day 3 they completely ignored anything that we have sent to them despite them trying to reach us non KR fans this isn't happening no with slow translations like this how can you call these guy competent .
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
doothegee
Profile Joined December 2009
Korea (South)3011 Posts
July 24 2011 07:31 GMT
#2627
On July 24 2011 16:29 Release wrote:
Leta 2-0 this bracket. Movie 0-2 at his best matchup. CJ definitely need to step it up.

Hopefully the re-emergence of Effort and Snow's improvement can revitalize them next season.
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koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
July 24 2011 07:34 GMT
#2628
On July 24 2011 16:25 Release wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 16:22 koreasilver wrote:
On July 24 2011 16:18 Release wrote:
On July 24 2011 16:15 hmmm... wrote:
On July 24 2011 16:05 Release wrote:
On July 24 2011 16:04 hmmm... wrote:
seriously, why 12 hatch?

seems really fishy to me....

i mean think about it. if you 12 hatch, there is a considerable chance you can automatically lose due to a build order.

if you do 9 pool, at least you have a timing window. if you do 12 pool, at least you can defend a 9 pool.

of course, 12 hatch is totally viable in a bo3, bo5 zvz series, but at this stage of the tournament, when EVERYTHING is on the line, to go 12 hatch?

either he's doing illegal betting or the CJ coach is making some seriously bad decisions. i am TERRIBLY disappointed, more so after such a brilliant effort by Leta, and I even wanted KT to win too.

you zvz nutholes.
12 hatch > 12 pool > 9pool. It's simple. 12 pool does defend a 9pool. Don't call someone stupid for trying to play zvz in a zvz.


i never said 12 pool doesn't defend a 9 pool. i said 12 hatch doesn't defend a 9 pool (almost always). i suggest you read carefully next time. 12 hatch is not > 9pool if you can't defend it in the firstplace nuthole

You said can. On aztec, it does. Only on an extremely small map, say battle royal or chupung ryeong, does a 9pool break a 12pool.
Also, you really shouldn't be accusing where of match fixing. It's so common that someone is flamed for 12 hatch when the opponent 9pool whereas no one flames a 12pooler.

Actually there's a large number of games where 9poolspeed has killed a 12pool expo. This was quite notorious on Medusa.

The rush distance was incredibly short on neo medusa. But on Neo Aztec, the rush distance is long enough that 12pool will defend a 9pool.

I still recall there being some games on long rush distance maps where the 9poolspeed was able to kill 12pool expo at speed timing. I can't remember which specific games though.
o[twist]
Profile Joined May 2008
United States4903 Posts
July 24 2011 07:35 GMT
#2629
i gotta say leta seems so out of place on cj. even to the point where he seems to do well when the rest of them are doing poorly and vice versa. and cj fans don't seem particularly more likely to like him than non-cj fans. i kind of wish he were on some other team - khan or stars or wemade seem better fit for his personality and playing style
Spyfire242
Profile Joined March 2009
United States715 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-24 07:37:32
July 24 2011 07:37 GMT
#2630
On July 24 2011 16:35 o[twist] wrote:
i gotta say leta seems so out of place on cj. even to the point where he seems to do well when the rest of them are doing poorly and vice versa. and cj fans don't seem particularly more likely to like him than non-cj fans. i kind of wish he were on some other team - khan or stars or wemade seem better fit for his personality and playing style


I love having Leta on CJ.He is an excellent (and CUTE!) addition to our team. ;P
Entusman #55 Spyfire242!
AppleTart
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1261 Posts
July 24 2011 07:37 GMT
#2631
On July 24 2011 16:35 o[twist] wrote:
i gotta say leta seems so out of place on cj. even to the point where he seems to do well when the rest of them are doing poorly and vice versa. and cj fans don't seem particularly more likely to like him than non-cj fans. i kind of wish he were on some other team - khan or stars or wemade seem better fit for his personality and playing style


For some reason I just feel Leta matches with woojin
always tired -_-
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50600 Posts
July 24 2011 07:38 GMT
#2632
On July 24 2011 16:19 disciple wrote:
I will let flamewheel get away with this unlike the guy on page 25 or smth ^_^

the op for the finals is mine


DO EET!
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Sprouter
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1724 Posts
July 24 2011 07:39 GMT
#2633
wow kt. you really want to be champions again.

has the date of the first match in shanghai been decided yet?
o[twist]
Profile Joined May 2008
United States4903 Posts
July 24 2011 07:39 GMT
#2634
On July 24 2011 16:37 Spyfire242 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 16:35 o[twist] wrote:
i gotta say leta seems so out of place on cj. even to the point where he seems to do well when the rest of them are doing poorly and vice versa. and cj fans don't seem particularly more likely to like him than non-cj fans. i kind of wish he were on some other team - khan or stars or wemade seem better fit for his personality and playing style


I love having Leta on CJ.He is an excellent (and CUTE!) addition to our team. ;P


maybe i'm wrong then. he's one of my favorite players, i don't understand why anyone *wouldn't* like him
doothegee
Profile Joined December 2009
Korea (South)3011 Posts
July 24 2011 07:40 GMT
#2635
On July 24 2011 16:39 Sprouter wrote:
wow kt. you really want to be champions again.

has the date of the first match in shanghai been decided yet?

Saturday, 19:00 KST
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mechanix
Profile Joined March 2010
33 Posts
July 24 2011 07:41 GMT
#2636
On July 24 2011 16:35 o[twist] wrote:
i gotta say leta seems so out of place on cj. even to the point where he seems to do well when the rest of them are doing poorly and vice versa. and cj fans don't seem particularly more likely to like him than non-cj fans. i kind of wish he were on some other team - khan or stars or wemade seem better fit for his personality and playing style


im going to agree. i have a hard time rooting for leta. i really really didnt like him when he was on sparkyz, and since joining the team its been really hit or miss. his game against flash tonight was quite incredible though, and you cant help but cheer during a performance like that.
doothegee
Profile Joined December 2009
Korea (South)3011 Posts
July 24 2011 07:49 GMT
#2637
By the way, Hydra's win today means that the Kespa rankings for August will have the Zergs in this order:

1. Zero
2. Hydra
3. Jaedong

Mind blown yet?
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Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
July 24 2011 07:52 GMT
#2638
On July 24 2011 16:49 doothegee wrote:
By the way, Hydra's win today means that the Kespa rankings for August will have the Zergs in this order:

1. Zero
2. Hydra
3. Jaedong

Mind blown yet?

Unprecedented?
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
Spica
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5582 Posts
July 24 2011 07:53 GMT
#2639
On July 24 2011 16:49 doothegee wrote:
By the way, Hydra's win today means that the Kespa rankings for August will have the Zergs in this order:

1. Zero
2. Hydra
3. Jaedong

Mind blown yet?

HELLZ YEAH HYDRA THAT'S MY BOY

You'll definitely make it to #1 someday, I believe! |D
How to pronounce the name: "SPY-ka" | Proud to share the same birthday with Shin (神) Dong Won and the almighty BoxeR | 리쌍도 나무에서 떨어진다. | To YellOw: "2位じゃダメなんですか?" ㅋㅋㅋ | Rest in peace, Violet. 08/23/12
Ryusei-R1
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States2106 Posts
July 24 2011 07:55 GMT
#2640
On July 24 2011 16:49 doothegee wrote:
By the way, Hydra's win today means that the Kespa rankings for August will have the Zergs in this order:

1. Zero
2. Hydra
3. Jaedong

Mind blown yet?

not fair that Jaedong didn't get any playoff time because of his terrible teammates (HIYA YOU SONUVA BITCH).

Poor Jaedong :C
Jaedong plz
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