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I love Bisu more than anyone else and god knows thats true, but if I see a picture of him after page 5 it will result in 2 days ban. Thats enough, be warned.
-disciple
o[twist]
Profile Joined May 2008
United States4903 Posts
July 24 2011 07:10 GMT
#2561
On July 24 2011 16:07 Emperor_Earth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 16:05 Release wrote:
On July 24 2011 16:04 hmmm... wrote:
seriously, why 12 hatch?

seems really fishy to me....

i mean think about it. if you 12 hatch, there is a considerable chance you can automatically lose due to a build order.

if you do 9 pool, at least you have a timing window. if you do 12 pool, at least you can defend a 9 pool.

of course, 12 hatch is totally viable in a bo3, bo5 zvz series, but at this stage of the tournament, when EVERYTHING is on the line, to go 12 hatch?

either he's doing illegal betting or the CJ coach is making some seriously bad decisions. i am TERRIBLY disappointed, more so after such a brilliant effort by Leta, and I even wanted KT to win too.

you zvz nutholes.
12 hatch > 12 pool > 9pool. It's simple. 12 pool does defend a 9pool. Don't call someone stupid for trying to play zvz in a zvz.


Release... I would reread his post... x.x


i personally think it's in really, really poor taste to accuse Where of match-fixing, not to mention ridiculous - imagine you're a match-fixer - Where comes to you and he's like "i'm a no-name Zerg, but i swear i'm going to get to play the sixth game, if there is one, of the second day of the kt/cj semifinals. if you give me a few million won i swear if i'm playing another Zerg i'll play a somewhat inappropriate but quite standard ZvZ strategy." are you kidding? i wouldn't give him a cent
4taR4xiA
Profile Joined July 2011
United States31 Posts
July 24 2011 07:10 GMT
#2562
On July 24 2011 16:05 e_i_pi_1_0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 16:02 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Poll: Who should take the LR for grand Finals?

Flamewheel (79)
 
43%

Disciple (73)
 
40%

me (30)
 
16%

182 total votes

Your vote: Who should take the LR for grand Finals?

(Vote): Disciple
(Vote): Flamewheel
(Vote): me


Flamewheel plz. Will probably be the most balanced. Plus we need the MSPaint graphics. And rainbow sheep.

What about Blind-Rawr? He worked hard for LR too! If Kiante could make a Bisu LR in a non Bisu game, surely a KT fan could do one for a KT ga,e
Emon_
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
3925 Posts
July 24 2011 07:10 GMT
#2563
On July 24 2011 16:09 zmeqt wrote:
I don't see how anyone can blame Where,or the coaches decision.The one to blame is totally Movie.

Seconded. He should've shown stronger games. Come next season he'll be ripping Zergs apart with a vengencance. Stay strong, CJ
"I know that human beings and fish can coexist peacefully" -GWB ||
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
July 24 2011 07:10 GMT
#2564
On July 24 2011 16:08 Release wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 16:06 doothegee wrote:
On July 24 2011 16:05 Release wrote:
On July 24 2011 16:04 hmmm... wrote:
seriously, why 12 hatch?

seems really fishy to me....

i mean think about it. if you 12 hatch, there is a considerable chance you can automatically lose due to a build order.

if you do 9 pool, at least you have a timing window. if you do 12 pool, at least you can defend a 9 pool.

of course, 12 hatch is totally viable in a bo3, bo5 zvz series, but at this stage of the tournament, when EVERYTHING is on the line, to go 12 hatch?

either he's doing illegal betting or the CJ coach is making some seriously bad decisions. i am TERRIBLY disappointed, more so after such a brilliant effort by Leta, and I even wanted KT to win too.

you zvz nutholes.
12 hatch > 12 pool > 9pool. It's simple. 12 pool does defend a 9pool. Don't call someone stupid for trying to play zvz in a zvz.

People have apparently not seen the sexiness in this video:


ofc there are comebacks. hell, some people have turned around a 12 hatch and beat a 9pool. I believe zero did that to JD on benzene. Still, when both people scout each other, a BO win is a BO win. Roo failed miserably thru the midgame and still won.

overgas9pool != 9pool
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
July 24 2011 07:10 GMT
#2565
On July 24 2011 16:07 Vipsanius wrote:
Are we going to see MS-paint Bisu?

[image loading]
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
aupstar
Profile Joined June 2007
Australia912 Posts
July 24 2011 07:10 GMT
#2566
On July 24 2011 16:10 Kipsate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 16:08 aupstar wrote:
On July 24 2011 16:06 Shurayuki wrote:
On July 24 2011 16:06 aupstar wrote:
On July 24 2011 16:04 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On July 24 2011 16:03 aupstar wrote:
On July 24 2011 16:02 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Poll: Who should take the LR for grand Finals?

Flamewheel (79)
 
43%

Disciple (73)
 
40%

me (30)
 
16%

182 total votes

Your vote: Who should take the LR for grand Finals?

(Vote): Disciple
(Vote): Flamewheel
(Vote): me



T1 fans will obviously vote Desciple...but honestly Flamewheel is more balanced..

I think he'd be the best choice to do the LR thread for the finals.


I voted disciple.


I donno if he'd be the best person for the finals after he trolled us in PO Day 1..>_>


that was kiante, disciple "fixed" it for you


Oh really?

My apologies..I take it all back..


It was disciple though.


=_=;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
Firebats, the natural enemy of octozerg
doothegee
Profile Joined December 2009
Korea (South)3011 Posts
July 24 2011 07:11 GMT
#2567
On July 24 2011 16:08 Release wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 16:06 doothegee wrote:
On July 24 2011 16:05 Release wrote:
On July 24 2011 16:04 hmmm... wrote:
seriously, why 12 hatch?

seems really fishy to me....

i mean think about it. if you 12 hatch, there is a considerable chance you can automatically lose due to a build order.

if you do 9 pool, at least you have a timing window. if you do 12 pool, at least you can defend a 9 pool.

of course, 12 hatch is totally viable in a bo3, bo5 zvz series, but at this stage of the tournament, when EVERYTHING is on the line, to go 12 hatch?

either he's doing illegal betting or the CJ coach is making some seriously bad decisions. i am TERRIBLY disappointed, more so after such a brilliant effort by Leta, and I even wanted KT to win too.

you zvz nutholes.
12 hatch > 12 pool > 9pool. It's simple. 12 pool does defend a 9pool. Don't call someone stupid for trying to play zvz in a zvz.

People have apparently not seen the sexiness in this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upK-bo0sKLQ

ofc there are comebacks. hell, some people have turned around a 12 hatch and beat a 9pool. I believe zero did that to JD on benzene. Still, when both people scout each other, a BO win is a BO win. Roo failed miserably thru the midgame and still won.

Did he even fail miserably? I feel like in a normal game, Where would have GGed 5 minutes earlier.
웅진 멘쓰즈
Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
July 24 2011 07:11 GMT
#2568
On July 24 2011 16:10 Kipsate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 16:08 aupstar wrote:
On July 24 2011 16:06 Shurayuki wrote:
On July 24 2011 16:06 aupstar wrote:
On July 24 2011 16:04 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On July 24 2011 16:03 aupstar wrote:
On July 24 2011 16:02 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Poll: Who should take the LR for grand Finals?

Flamewheel (79)
 
43%

Disciple (73)
 
40%

me (30)
 
16%

182 total votes

Your vote: Who should take the LR for grand Finals?

(Vote): Disciple
(Vote): Flamewheel
(Vote): me



T1 fans will obviously vote Desciple...but honestly Flamewheel is more balanced..

I think he'd be the best choice to do the LR thread for the finals.


I voted disciple.


I donno if he'd be the best person for the finals after he trolled us in PO Day 1..>_>


that was kiante, disciple "fixed" it for you


Oh really?

My apologies..I take it all back..


It was disciple though.

It started with Kiante/Hpig
Because when you left, Brood War was all spotlights and titans. Now, with the death of the big leagues, Brood War has moved to the basements and carparks. Now, Brood War is unlicensed brawls, lost teeth, and bloody fights for fistfulls of money - SirJolt
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
July 24 2011 07:11 GMT
#2569
On July 24 2011 16:09 Keniji wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 16:03 ArvickHero wrote:
On July 24 2011 16:00 Keniji wrote:
Those awesome PL playoff "once in a lifetime" performances followed up by an anticlimatic lose by the next player.

Someone remember Lomo vs Best followed up by the BO/cheese lose from Jaedong vs Fantasy in the PL Finals 2(?) seasons ago.

Kinda feels similiar

Except there was a huge amount of mind gaming/trickery coming from SKT prior to the ACE match (Fantasy putting on the facade that he was consulting with Oov instead of Boxer to give the impression of a macro game, and partial wallin at the nat to make it look like a mech/FE). Remember, Jaedong opened up 12pool too that game, so it wasn't necessarily a build loss for Jaedong


Oh don't get me wrong. The game itself was way more intense. This game was basically over once Where moved his drone to make the 12 hatch.

But the situation that one team was about the lose and that the remaining player won against all odds. (TvT vs Flash. Lomo TvP vs Best at that time) and that followed up by not a comeback but a very fast (anticlimatic) lose.

I see. I think the anticlimactic point is arguable, but I can understand the desire for a long epic game to close a series. Seems to not happen enough in the playoffs D:
Writerptrk
miky_ardiente
Profile Joined May 2010
Mexico387 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-24 07:12:01
July 24 2011 07:11 GMT
#2570
On July 24 2011 16:08 GolemMadness wrote:
All I care about for the LR thread is a minimum of Bisu pictures.


i'll be the first to say, as valid and good ur request is, we just need so much bisu
My anaconda dont want none... u know the rest
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
July 24 2011 07:12 GMT
#2571
On July 24 2011 16:10 flamewheel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 16:07 Vipsanius wrote:
Are we going to see MS-paint Bisu?

Bisu pic

Hope disciple doesn't see that or yous is gettin banned.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
Vipsanius
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands708 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-24 07:13:08
July 24 2011 07:12 GMT
#2572
On July 24 2011 16:10 flamewheel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 16:07 Vipsanius wrote:
Are we going to see MS-paint Bisu?

Bisu Pic


Awesome!
fallingdream
Profile Joined December 2004
Romania452 Posts
July 24 2011 07:12 GMT
#2573
Yes CJ fans and KT haters, blame it on ZvZ, BO and hate on Roo, but don't even for a second try to blame it on the CJ coaches for a: not sending out Snow, b: telling and making Where practice 12 hatch.
hauton
Profile Joined March 2009
Hong Kong743 Posts
July 24 2011 07:13 GMT
#2574
How the hell did Roo fail miserably?

He ADMITTED he played extra safe but he got the win

Fail miserably would be playing horang2 safe and nearly throwing the game
keep it up, youll either be famous or homeless one day
Keniji
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands2569 Posts
July 24 2011 07:13 GMT
#2575
On July 24 2011 16:11 ArvickHero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 16:09 Keniji wrote:
On July 24 2011 16:03 ArvickHero wrote:
On July 24 2011 16:00 Keniji wrote:
Those awesome PL playoff "once in a lifetime" performances followed up by an anticlimatic lose by the next player.

Someone remember Lomo vs Best followed up by the BO/cheese lose from Jaedong vs Fantasy in the PL Finals 2(?) seasons ago.

Kinda feels similiar

Except there was a huge amount of mind gaming/trickery coming from SKT prior to the ACE match (Fantasy putting on the facade that he was consulting with Oov instead of Boxer to give the impression of a macro game, and partial wallin at the nat to make it look like a mech/FE). Remember, Jaedong opened up 12pool too that game, so it wasn't necessarily a build loss for Jaedong


Oh don't get me wrong. The game itself was way more intense. This game was basically over once Where moved his drone to make the 12 hatch.

But the situation that one team was about the lose and that the remaining player won against all odds. (TvT vs Flash. Lomo TvP vs Best at that time) and that followed up by not a comeback but a very fast (anticlimatic) lose.

I see. I think the anticlimactic point is arguable, but I can understand the desire for a long epic game to close a series. Seems to not happen enough in the playoffs D:


It probably is, as an OZ fan tho it definitely was anticlimactic.
Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
July 24 2011 07:13 GMT
#2576
On July 24 2011 16:12 fallingdream wrote:
Yes CJ fans and KT haters, blame it on ZvZ, BO and hate on Roo, but don't even for a second try to blame it on the CJ coaches for a: not sending out Snow, b: telling and making Where practice 12 hatch.

I think most people are blaming Movie, actually

I still think there's nothing wrong with 12hatching
Liquipedia
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-24 07:15:33
July 24 2011 07:13 GMT
#2577
On July 24 2011 16:11 doothegee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 16:08 Release wrote:
On July 24 2011 16:06 doothegee wrote:
On July 24 2011 16:05 Release wrote:
On July 24 2011 16:04 hmmm... wrote:
seriously, why 12 hatch?

seems really fishy to me....

i mean think about it. if you 12 hatch, there is a considerable chance you can automatically lose due to a build order.

if you do 9 pool, at least you have a timing window. if you do 12 pool, at least you can defend a 9 pool.

of course, 12 hatch is totally viable in a bo3, bo5 zvz series, but at this stage of the tournament, when EVERYTHING is on the line, to go 12 hatch?

either he's doing illegal betting or the CJ coach is making some seriously bad decisions. i am TERRIBLY disappointed, more so after such a brilliant effort by Leta, and I even wanted KT to win too.

you zvz nutholes.
12 hatch > 12 pool > 9pool. It's simple. 12 pool does defend a 9pool. Don't call someone stupid for trying to play zvz in a zvz.

People have apparently not seen the sexiness in this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upK-bo0sKLQ

ofc there are comebacks. hell, some people have turned around a 12 hatch and beat a 9pool. I believe zero did that to JD on benzene. Still, when both people scout each other, a BO win is a BO win. Roo failed miserably thru the midgame and still won.

Did he even fail miserably? I feel like in a normal game, Where would have GGed 5 minutes earlier.

Well when he saw the stream of lings following his, he was vastly outnumbered. He use 2 mutas to attack a morphing spore. As a result, he loses 2 drones. Then he sits content to make a ton of drones, mine minerals, expand, and drone whore again. I wouldn't be too suprised to see that he had a ton of minerals in his bank when game ended.

edit: There was the one engagement: roo had few lings a muta and a sunken. where had around 15-20 lings. He could've lost a lot of drones if where had committed. I admit that "failing miserably" is a hyperbole, but he definitely could've played better.
☺
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
July 24 2011 07:13 GMT
#2578
If I were a CJ fan, I'd blame it on the un-clutch protoss line that keeps losing games.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
Shurayuki
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2665 Posts
July 24 2011 07:14 GMT
#2579
On July 24 2011 16:12 Lightwip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 16:10 flamewheel wrote:
On July 24 2011 16:07 Vipsanius wrote:
Are we going to see MS-paint Bisu?

Bisu pic

Hope disciple doesn't see that or yous is gettin banned.


at this point and for that post there should really not be a ban though...the thread was sucessfully bisuless so let it slide
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Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5599 Posts
July 24 2011 07:14 GMT
#2580
God.. plz stop complaining about the 12 hatch. It is perfectly standard its just a retarded match up.
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